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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Ha, I think he is wrong when he says "second half was no better". But the plays he was breaking down in the video were first half.
I’ve always found Simms to be a dolt even when he had his brief bromance with Josh lol
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1 minute ago, Einstein said:
Yes. And it’s evident all over the All-22 if anyone cares to look. Some of it comes down to what the Texans did on defenses - they squatted on all the short stuff and that really made it hard because of the way Brady runs the offense with small ball.
There was absolutely nothing easy for Josh to take.
And the few times someone would finally get open, he was being flushed from the pocket by an unblocked blitzer.
Now, one criticism that I think is fair, is toward the end of the game, he started to flush himself from the pocket when he didn’t need to. But I think this is just the natural result of him being pressured relentlessly the first 3/4 of the game.
Yea that last part I think pretty much every qb would do…Rodgers did much the same in that Vikings game earlier in the day. He doesn’t have the athletic ability so he ended up throwing balls off his back foot rather than scrambling around but it’s theoretically the same situation
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16 minutes ago, Mango said:
LOL. 95%? 95%!!!!!
Well he completed 9 passes so lets start there. Then the first 5 pass attempts there were players open. Sometimes even his very first read. And on some there were multiple players.
So far we have 8 other completions plus these 5. At this rate, parcing through the A22, you might not even get to 50% of the time.
First pass: Incomplete. Allen first looks to Samuel in the flat in what looks to be a screen? Nobody within 8 yards of him. Holds the ball. Looks center field and Kincaid is crossing across his face with a step on the LB in man coverage. Hucks the ball to a very covered Hollins down the left sideline. Still nobody near Samuel in the flat.
2nd pass: Incomplete. One Simms already addressed. Cook beats his man and is the first read. The ball should have been thrown.
3rd pass: Incomplete: The Hollins throw deep. This play also has Kincaid, Ty Johnson, and Coleman open.4th pass: Complete to Cook who is very open.
5th pass: Sack: really strange. This looks like a screen to Samuel. He is there without a defender. Kincaid takes his man out of the play. Josh pump fakes to Samuel for a reason I cannot figure out? Maybe to take off? Maybe to look down field? Then he takes a sack. I can't stop shaking my head at this one. Like WTF?
(Forgive me, file size restrictions aren't letting me post screen grabs directly and I am too lazy to resize every picture)
A screen is never ever as open as you are describing lol haven’t watched the plays yet but I think you are probably misdiagnosing some things
that was likely a decoy route to hit a deep shot that Houston would’ve rallied to to make the tackle for a minimal gain if we threw the dumpoff
seems like we came into it knowing Texans would flood the middle, shorter stuff and had some interesting plays queued up to take advantage. We just missed them all for various reasons…Josh being one of them. It was mostly a slog but the plays were there to win that one
criticizing the audible to the deep hollins play/the decision to throw to hollins there was absurd. Josh knew the double move would hit and was 100% correct. Hard to say if it was a missed throw or he was expecting something else as the defender was inside and the ball went outside, but the decision making was spot on -
1 minute ago, finn said:
Allen played so badly (as did others) that I wonder if he was concussed before he hit his head the first time. I'm convinced he was definitely concussed afterwards. As bad as his receivers and line were--and are--he's played with worse. That was a different quarterback out there.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills on this one haha I legitimately have no idea if this is a pro or anti josh post I’m about to make but he has several games like this one per year often with even better surrounding talent than he has now.
anyone being like whoaaa where did this come from is very strange to me. Yea he was bad but he bounces back from games like this literally every season. I guess this is a pro and anti josh post 😂
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13 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I think one thing we can all agree on is that PFF is absolute garbage.
Their highest graded Bills Offensive Player was Mack Hollins.
Their lowest graded Bills Offensive Player was Josh Allen.
I believe it was WGR that had a stat the other day that the Bills throw to the outside more than any team in the league.
Idk how wr grades work but there were a lot of gray area plays where they probably put all the blame on josh and none on Mack when it should’ve been pretty even
also pff really has no method of grading ‘josh expected Mack to route adjust/find a soft spot so he threw it to that spot and it looked like an inaccurate throw’ type plays. They’re not at practice/in the huddle with these guys
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4 minutes ago, Success said:
I wonder why Adams would say no to a generational QB. Is he still mad at Rapp? The cold?
The other teams in the mix are much less likely to contend for a title.
Sounds like a LARP to me personally. Why wouldn’t he rework his deal? Bills would increase his future pay if anything. Also players and picks for a player doesn’t sound like beane at all to me
or maybe it’s real and one side is playing hardball
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3 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
https://steelersdepot.com/2024/10/schefter-davante-adams-trade-unlikely-to-occur-this-week/
Here’s how Davante is traded to us by next Tuesday:
1. Raiders beat Steelers
2. Bucs beat Carr-less Saints
3. We pound the Jets
It will then be clear to Davante that in terms of winning, Buffalo should be his preferred destination. There’s one less week of salary to figure out then too, although Vegas will still need to absorb a good amount depending on if his deal is reworked in some way. Only question is if we pound the Jets, will we have less urgency to trade for him then?I think winning is a minor part and him going off statistically is the major part if I had to guess lol even with a great boundary receiver I think Buffalo still spreads the ball around which might be what he’s worried about
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1 minute ago, KCNC said:
I guess that is what bothers me most about the funk this team is in....that is JA17 is really not playing that well. Personally, I think his left hand injury is much worse than they are letting on. Still should not effect some of the decisions he is making the last 2 games. Have defenses figured him out? Maybe so.
I can’t take credit for this can’t remember who said it either though unfortunately 😂. But he seems to be telegraphing the PA fakes possibly because his hand is mangled which would be pretty impactful
2 minutes ago, Einstein said:
What short, easy passes? The ones that didn’t exist? Houston’s entire defensive gameplan was to squat on our short stuff and dare us to throw deep.Go watch the ALL-22. You may find a couple examples of times where a short pass was open, but 95% of the time they were completely blanketed.
Or do you mean the 4 total plays that Simms showed?
Yea I’m sure Simms is exaggerating a bit haha haven’t watched it yet though…and these talking head/ex terrible qb types never really bring up throwing lanes on short throws either. A lot of times they’ll circle an open looking receiver on the screen and be like LOOK HES OPEN when some mammoth of a man is putting his hands in the qbs face lol
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2 minutes ago, MJS said:
I didn't mean to make it seem like Josh rolling right is always bad. No, it is documented to be when he is at his most lethal. But defenses know that and prepare for it too. And both Houston and Baltimore did a good job at rushing to him and not giving him clean throws. They hit him a lot when he rolled out.
Yea it looked a little more mixed to me…I think the Texans gave the spy that responsibility and he was more focused on taking away Josh getting positive yards running and giving him more time on the rollout right mostly because they trusted their coverage would hold up. Almost bit them in the end but almosts aren’t worth diddly 🤣.
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7 minutes ago, Einstein said:
I think that you are misunderstanding my viewpoint. I’m not saying his play didn’t look poor. The point is that it’s only because of the o-line and receivers. No QB in NFL history would have looked good with the compliments we put out there on Sunday. Not Brady. Not Manning. Not Mahomes. Not Montana. They all would have stunk. But it wouldn’t have been from their doing - it would have been from the pieces around them failing them.
Analogy; It’s like if I asked you to pour water into a cup, but kept hitting your arm as you poured it. Are you doing a bad job at pouring water in the cup? Well, more water spilled on the table instead of the cup. You must have been terrible at pouring water in a cup that day! Or… someone was hitting your arm as you were pouring it, and your performance appears poor because of it.
You and Simms can take 4 screenshots (out of 60) and claim he was a bad player that day. But it doesn’t make it so. It sure is easy hanging fruit to do so though, isn’t it? I’d hazard to guess that those saying he played poorly haven’t even reviewed the 22. Because if they had, they would be asking “where did I want Josh to throw this ball?”
Consider this: Those 4 examples Simms showed were the BEST examples he could find the entire game of Allen playing poorly - and even 2 of those 4 were poor analysis (see my first post).
It does feel pretty semantic-y at times…he played bad because he was in a bad situation is still him playing bad and if he was in a better situation maybe he doesn’t play as bad but he did is my in betweener take haha
The missed plays are all amplified when the available possible good plays are limited. It’d be happening with mahomes’ weeks 1-4 now too but they’re winning anyway because their defense is stupid good 😂
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24 minutes ago, MJS said:
Yep, he struggled. I saw at least two dropped interceptions for him, too. And the protection was not as bad as everyone was saying. He bailed the pocket too soon and both the Ravens and the Texans were waiting for that and broke to him quickly to not allow him time to scramble and find a throw.
Josh can shred teams from the pocket, but every so often he reverts to his old self of bailing from the pocket instead of stepping up in the pocket, or sensing pressure when it isn't there.
Now, sometimes there was pressure, especially early. If I am a defensive coach playing Buffalo, I am doing everything I can to get pressure on him early in a game, because he'll be rushed and uneasy for the rest of the game whether there is pressure or not.
I agree about the bad part but I don’t think either of those teams did a particularly good job stopping him from rolling right to buy extra time to the point where it very nearly lost Houston the game. Can’t remember who it was maybe Coleman but he came back towards Josh from the back of the end zone on one of those post Houston fumble plays, the defender slipped and then made a great effort getting back into the play.
those roll right scramble drill
type plays are rehearsed and aren’t ALWAYS bad. A lot of our biggest plays come from doing that. But yea if he could’ve spent a considerable more time in the pocket and bailed early that’s absolutely bad
teams really should be forcing him left the end of that game was like inches from ‘see what happens when you let Josh roll right’ and now it’s ’the guy can’t do anything when he rolls right’ 🤣
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16 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
The pellets in that screenshot are from the defender, not Cook. His elbow was pretty clearly out of bounds IMO and the foot was close but I think it initially landed in and then slid out of bounds before lifting off the ground.
McDermott did not take a timeout after the Kincaid pass. He took a timeout after the Cook one.
Idk what the heck is going on with this board about the Kincaid catch lol. He 100% didn’t take a timeout right after and it was a 3rd down play so it literally would not have made sense to. They could’ve taken a delay deciding if he wants to challenge
his decision to not blow a timeout on the challenge was validated when his offense got the ball back with three timeouts instead of two with very limited time in the half.
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7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
There is something wrong with Josh and it's clear.
I still don’t get this specific ‘bad josh’ take though lol. He was pretty bad for a big stretch of last year and has a couple games like that Houston one every year.
none of this was new
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3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
Diggs losing a playoff game in Buffalo would warm my heart.I really thought they were gonna lose this one because they decided to force a ball to diggs which would’ve been pretty great haha that would definitely be better though
3 minutes ago, Einstein said:100%.
His play was a result of non-stop pressure and receivers not gaining separation.
You can make a video of any QB from any game, and focus on a few plays where they missed a guy.
I think when qbs get pressured a bit they lose confidence in the oline then start pressing and it throws them all out of whack. He might’ve played bad because the oline let him down a few times early but it’s still
pretty justifiable to say he played bad
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24 minutes ago, Brand J said:
Game 1 against the Jets last year was pretty bad. He also looked like he was starting his first NFL game in that one.
I’m as pro josh as a lot of people but he has a couple games like this per year. Sometimes it’s masked by the defense playing super well or receivers making a couple plays that they didn’t in this one where we win so nobody reads into it too much.
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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
It was brought up as a real possibility on WFAN. Coaches and players are allowed to display flags of their heritage. But the current situation and the date it was displayed indicated it could have been a point of contention. They also couldn’t figure out why he was escorted out and not allowed to speak to players and the GM was not even informed. They surmised it may not have been football related especially because they are only 5 games in and playing for 1st place in the division on Monday.
something else brought up is that Saleh may have wanted to fire Hackett, and Aaron was consulted and said no and there was some sort of power struggle that led to his firing.
I think he’s been wearing that patch for a long time…sincerely doubt that’s it. But it’s getting reported woody met with Aaron the day before, then tuesday morning Saleh had a meeting where he told some coaches he was going to take playcalling duties away from Hackett, then 20 minutes later he’s fired. So it’s feelin like he got fired for trying to phase out Hackett.
it could be that Rodgers maybe thought Todd downing was terrible or he just really loves Hackett that much, or maybe Rodgers wasn’t involved at all. But the firing is seeming to revolve around Hackett
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2 hours ago, Logic said:
Honestly, of all the players we could be missing due to injury, Cook is the one I feel is MOST replaceable.
I like both Ray Davis and Ty Johnson and would be excited to see what they could do if given more of a workload.
I'd certainly rather be missing Cook than, say, Shakir, Samuel, Oliver, etc.Cook gave the jets a lot of trouble last matchup
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51 minutes ago, buffblue said:
Unfortunately I agree with you. This doesn't set up as a good opponent when you're already struggling offensively.
They were the get right opponent last year when our offense was a mess funny enough lol
They basically run what they run and it’s not overly complicated, pretty much know exactly what you’re gonna see. They’ve been pretty squishy up front against the run although I thought we’d run better against Houston so take that with a grain of salt 🤣
corners are fabulous, safeties are bad. Its a good defense but they are definitely propped up a bit by having 3/5 games against offenses even worse than ours if you can believe that haha they’ve played 3 of the bottom 5 offenses.
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5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
I wouldn't bet money on that given Allen's turnover issues at Met Life and the fact that the Jets have the corners who can man up on our trash receivers with relative ease.
Idk what happened last meeting then 😂. Shakir lit them up for a deep td, they had trouble slowing down cook. Probably could’ve scored 50 in that one if the jets offense made it a game. We mostly ran it out the last quarter and a half. And that was with a bad INT before halftime and diggs doing virtually nothing
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23 minutes ago, zow2 said:
You have a very proud Buffalo team that has lost 2 in a row and mostly looked bad vs a Jets team that needs a W in the worst way and has a new coach bump. I think the desperation for each club offsets each other.
The Jets won an improbable game last year in the opening MNF game with Zach Wilson of all people. Despite how they've looked, the Bills are still a pretty good team and I don't think they lose two years in a row in this spot. Buffalo for the W.
I understand the road vs home situation but ironically enough the last time the bills offense hit a skid they had a nice get right game against the jets. Cook and Shakir both had good games, diggs didn’t do much
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3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:
To me.... it's a player you really like, for a crap shoot draft pick, and (I'm my uneducated guess), at least semi cap friendly, especially in relation to type of player you're getting.
Anybody good with the cap numbers.... if Raiders eat all that dead cap, I'm assuming his remaining contract looks manageable for a future HOF guy, who's style has allowed him to age well. We're not talking about a Tyreek Skillset, he's a craftsmen of his routes.
Yea I was a bit more 50/50 until I looked at the available wrs in free agency. The ones that would realistically be available and are a little younger than davante are good but idk if they’re great. Higgins will probably be a bidding war for a guy with a wr2 skill set.
Amari cooper is a free agent but he doesn’t have the ceiling davante does I don’t think. Keenan Allen and Deandre Hopkins are davante Adams’ age anyway
4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:Can’t disagree with any of that but sometimes these players aren’t too bright and/or don’t actually give crap one.
My somewhat conspiracy theory is he knows he’ll drum up interest from the bills too if he mentions that jets haha but that could be wishful thinking
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15 minutes ago, H2o said:
31, almost 32 years old. Would have to renegotiate his deal and he basically holds all the leverage in that regard. I'm also not certain he puts us over the hump that gets us to the SB. That's a pass from me with that compensation.
Yea really comes down to if the person answering the question thinks we’re a wr away for sure.. idk how great free agency is though for wrs this year I wonder how much that factors in for beane. There’s quite a few available but one is damaged goods and a few aren’t what we’re looking for
tee Higgins isn’t really a wr1 imo, ceedee resigned, no way they go diggs again lol, then you’re down to guys that I’m not sure are super sure things like Godwin and diontae Johnson or aging vets like Deandre Hopkins and Keenan Allen
could draft multiple wrs but we’re realistically picking late-ish 1st again so I doubt that we’d hit on a player of that caliber but it’s possible
if bishop turns out at least ok we may have plugged a decent amount of holes where maybe we could trade up. Solomon and Carter have me optimistic
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4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
They love their interim HC too. could be excited to help their DC look good as a HC.
He's the Jets names Hackett, I could see your logic
Could be it’s impossible to predict. I think they have to at least partly feel that the owner gave up on them this season which has to be a little deflating
if it really was over Saleh trying to demote an objectively terrible OC which seems to be what the reporting alludes to, theres gotta be a locker room rift.
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12 minutes ago, Low Positive said:
This is a very good point. He seems to finally be "taking what the defense gives him" and is loathe to push the ball down the field. Some of that is the WRs, but some might also be fear of throwing INTs.
I’m not really seeing that much…he took plenty of deep single coverage shots in the last game. There was maybe a play where he could’ve snuck a pass in to shavers I think it was and passed on it which could potentially be interpreted of fear of an interception I guess? The only way you can really have that bad of an incompletion percentage game on that many attempts is if you don’t let it get to you and just keep firing 🤣
but I think a lot of this is reaching to explain 0 ints for him at this point in the season. Some of it is bad int luck in the past evening out it seems like, he’s had a few ints dropped this year. The prior couple years defenders turned superhuman and were diving,toe tapping, and making every freakin INT play to absurdly unlucky levels haha
Every INT he threw I was like…man do guys ever drop his 😂
Chris Simms- good and detailed breakdown of Allen’s struggles vs Houston
in The Stadium Wall
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Haha I was posting about how simms is an idiot at the same time but florio is absolutely worse 🤣