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    Bill O'Brien; the Man, the Myth, the Moron

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    1 hour ago, eball said:


    Defeatist supposed Bills fans are always priceless. Keep chastising the team’s fans for enjoying the turn of events, that’s always a good look. 

    A turn of events? We haven’t even played the season yet. Imagine how silly you’ll look if the Texans win 11 games again next year and the Bills only win 9 or 10.

     

    I guess knowing the phrase “counting your chickens” makes you a defeatist lol.

    David Carr Criticizes Winston’s workout

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

    Minus those stats, he’s failed to get his team to the playoffs for 4 years in a row. Might now be a fair comparison but to me he’s Fitzpatrick with a stronger arm. He can easily be a career back up but I don’t see it for him as a starter.

    but that’s just my opinion 

    Tyrod is starting this season presumably, I’d much rather go into a game with Famous than that bum under center.

    Dion Dawkins or Matt Milano

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    28 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    I'd have Hyde and Edmunds 4th and 5th. I just don't know who plays left tackle if Dawkins goes down and if you are bad there it wrecks games. I know some folks like Nsekhe. I have never particularly been one dating back to his Redskins days. 

    Oh I get you now. I was thinking more in terms of our best players at their positions, not “if they get hurt, who hurts us the most.” 

     

    I agree in that instance i suppose.

    Gunner's 2020 Mock Draft! UPDATE - v3.0 (and FINAL) now posted on p.8

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by FireChans

    @GunnerBill I agree with the 49ers going WR early. They remind me of a West Coast Bills, talented young team, a defense that has “arrived” and is better QB play away from winning a SuperBowl. Securing a true #1 makes a lot of sense.

     

    Don’t agree with the Jordan Love Saints pick though. Not because I don’t think it doesn’t make sense. I just don’t see the Saints spending a first for life without Brees in Brees’ last season. Yeah yeah, they paid Teddy, and that worked out for them pretty well, but a first round pick sitting on the bench when there are day one contributors out there? The Saints are my guaranteed to reach to fill a hole team.

    Karlos Williams making a comeback

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    24 minutes ago, Doc said:

     

    It's cute you think I follow you.  I was just asking about the Pegula Propaganda comment. 

     

    And yes they initially liked him...until they didn't.  Happens all the time everywhere.  That it's some revelation to you impresses me most.

    I mean, it’s common courtesy to follow a conversation before you jump in. Especially if you’re going to go to all that trouble to make incorrect assumptions and look foolish.

    Jalen Ramsey tells Tre White on IG that he should leave Buffalo

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    I can answer this without looking it up but I am probably not a good test because I can probably name 80% of the starters for most of the teams in the league. Byron Jones and the guy @thebandit27 likes - african surname begins with A - started at corner for the Cowboys in 2019. Awuize? Spelling is my issue not recognition. 

     

    I feel like Landon Collins had more name value in New York even on a bad team than Micah Hyde had here. That is where my comparison comes from. 

    Jones just got a ton of money in FA. I think he’s overrated but I wonder how much playing in Dallas had to do with what he ended up getting, more to Jalen’s point.

    Karlos Williams making a comeback

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by FireChans

    11 minutes ago, Doc said:

     

    Do you deny that last part?  They kept him around for continuity's sake and fired him when they realized it wasn't working.  Did you think they'd fire him immediately or keep him and say "well, he sucks but he's here so we'll keep him"?

     

     

    Who knows?  I think he's a big Whaley fan.

    I think Whaley sucked, which has been obvious from virtually every post of mine in this thread. It’s your ability to follow a conversation which impresses me most.

     

    Saying they kept him for continuity’s sake is also a cop out. The Pegulas LIKED Whaley. Every report from when they took over said the same. That’s why they extended him. 

    Karlos Williams making a comeback

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    21 minutes ago, Doc said:

     

    Yes, they retained him for continuity sake.  He didn't get the job done (and I'm sure there was stuff behind the scenes we don't know about) and then they moved on.  And were ultimately proven right.

    Yeah, Whaley sucked. The Pegulas gave him an extension, got their Goebbels to start rewriting history to make him look better, then when things became untenable they finally cut bait. And we are all better for it.

    This is the best WR class of our generation

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    32 minutes ago, dneveu said:

     

    If Jefferson ends up in NO, I think he'll do well.  Seattle might be interesting too - lockett metcalf and jefferson.  Maybe GB.

     

    Somewhere where he's not expected to be #1, and can play in the slot, move around etc. 

     

    He probably slips - but deep ball tracking and actually catching the ball on deep routes is more important than running really fast.  Same with Getting off the line in press, as well as running more of a route tree.  I think a super fast 40 would have got him picked higher, and thus more money.  But it doesn't really change who he is as a player. 

    Oh I agree entirely. If he posted a 4.34, I think some team would talk thenselves in to him. 

    I don’t get the hate that Josh Allen gets around here.

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    30 minutes ago, Hampton Josh fan said:

    That's sounds right, a delusional fan, who has lived in mediocrity his whole life expecting  a HOF QB to fall out of the sky. Here's the good news.We don't need JA17 to be Mahomes. This team just has to improve every year and JA will be good enough to take us to the promised land. Can he be ELI, or Foles or Flacco or Dilfer. In 58 years we've had 1 HOF QB. Zero rings.

    I don’t expect a HoF QB to fall out of the sky. I didn’t have to, one of them fell to pick #10 in the 2017 draft.

     

    I hope Josh wins a Super Bowl. I also hope he’s a better QB than Dilfer.

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    Karlos Williams making a comeback

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    8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    I agree. The Doug Whaley drafts were 2013-2016. 

     

    I agree with the rest of your post too. 

    Doug Whaley is proof positive that drafting “starters” isn’t good enough to win in this league. Ultimately, you need Gilmore’s and White’s, not Shaq’s and Preston Brown’s.

     

    It’s also quite frightening to see that nobody from the 15 or 16 drafts are on the roster and only a handful are left in the league.

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    Karlos Williams making a comeback

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    1 minute ago, Doc said:

     

    By calling it a "Pegula Propaganda Machine" I'm taking it to mean you think the Bills unfairly made Whaley a scapegoat.  What I'm saying is that they gave him a chance, fired him, and then the Bills made the playoffs after essentially gutting the team he put together.

    You got it wrong. The Pegulas spent 2014-2016 propping Whaley up as a good GM. Because he was employed by them. And they started sowing misinformation about the Hughes trade and the 2013 draft etc.

    Karlos Williams making a comeback

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    3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:


    I would put his work on par with the job Buddy Nix did here - below average 

    Nix and Whaley were like polar opposites. Nix drafted better players (he also had higher picks) but Whaley found more sleepers and made better FA/pro personnel decisions. 

     

    Theoretically, together, they should have been really good. Oh well.

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    Karlos Williams making a comeback

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    Posted · Edited by FireChans

    5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

     

    It's nuts.

     

    None of us are saying the dude was great. But we try to temper the hate with some real examples and say hey maybe he wasnt the worst of all time (and not responsible for a 20 year drought), and they flip out and call us "apologists" and talk like they love the smell of their own farts.

    Because you give credit for things that Whaley didn’t do in an effort to prop him 

     

    3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    It is the invention of false narratives that I don't get. There is enough to criticise Doug Whaley for without making stuff up. 

    I’d say giving Whaley credit for picking Dareus, Gilmore, Searcy, Glenn, AW and Bradham is leaning heavily on “making stuff up.”

     

    Whaley wasn’t the worst GM of all time. He was just another kinda crappy one. He did some good things. He had some really solid picks for contributors. He never drafted a ProBowler, he stopped attempting to find a QB, and ultimately, he was a terrible leader who couldn’t get along with any of his HC’s (who also deserve blame). 

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    Karlos Williams making a comeback

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    1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

     

    When a team hires a 70 year old guy as EVP/GM and the first thing he does is bring in an up-and-coming young exec from the Steelers and names him Assistant GM, and talks about how he's already grooming the young guy to take over, I'd say it's fair to lump their personnel decisions together.

    Do you wanna talk revisionist? Nobody in  2011 was talking about what DOUG WHALEY thought. You are giving him relevance after the fact because he was eventually made GM. 

     

    Do you know a single thing about what picks our current assistant GM deserves credit for? Or are you gonna say he’s the one who picked Josh Allen in 5 years if Beane leaves and he gets promoted?

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