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I don’t know. Depends on what happens. I will laugh at the Harbaugh love if they get bounced in the playoffs again early and ask if he’s still such a better coach. I’ll also laugh when McDaniel gets trounced and bounced and ask if he’s still such a better coach.

Sean McDermott ranked 8th in fourth down aggression index a few years ago. Kinda tough to argue with that stat. What? I said the Niners. Did you read my post?

Miami is a playoff team. They have your boy McDaniel who you think is a better coach. Unfortunately, he gets dog walked by McD. Only meaningful if we lose, I guess. No they just have Lamar Jackson, a soon to be 2 time MVP. And an offensive roster that is vastly better than ours at almost every position in the case of the Niners. It's not hedging at all. The Ravens and Niners are playing excellent football right now. The Bills are not. That may not be the case in two weeks. We'll find out. We know that the Ravens have endured multiple disappointing seasons with Harbaugh not optimizing his team and/or Lamar and here there are now. Same with the Niners. That's the NFL.

No. But imo no coach in the NFL is optimizing any of their teams right now, except maybe Harbaugh and the Ravens and Shanny and the Niners.

This week is pretty meaningful. I bet he wins.

You think the Eagles would have a bottom 2 defense in the NFL with McD out there? Man oh man. Not too mention killing McD for being "conservative" (he isn't, really) but taking Bowles over him? Wild stuff. Respect your opinion but I think we are seeing vastly different things.

they save 6.7M with a post 6/1 cut. In short:

A truly fair discussion would also list their entire teams including their QB. But I don't think TBD supports that bandwidth. If we switch McD and Shanny only, and keep everything else the same, are their records much different? Maybe. If we switch McD and Sirianni, and keep everything else the same, are their records much different? I believe so, in McD's favor.

I hear you. I just can't believe I got the cash out offer. I'm riding it out.

I'm not arguing that McD will surpass Reid. I think that's insane. You said you thought Sirianni might. It's possible, but extremely unlikely. The history of the NFL tells us this. I'm so glad that you posted a list though. McVay - fair, think he's a star HC Harbaugh - living off an SB from a decade ago. 1 playoff win since 2014. He's purple McDermott. Taylor - meh, he's okay, but I don't think he's special. Stefanski - 2 winning seasons and 1 playoff win, thought Deshaun Watson was worth a fully guaranteed contract and picks? Puke. Campbell - first playoff appearance ever. Nah. Ryans - great young coach, bright future, fair Pederson - Living off an SB from 6 years ago, but he's solid I guess. They choked away their division lead. Reid - yup McDaniel - never won a playoff game, completely choked away a massive division lead and now in a gigantic week 18 game? Think he's a good coach but when McD spanks him again, it will be clear he's #2 in the division Shanny - fair Daboll - the Giants are harrible. Danny Dimes was a disaster. He won COTY and one playoff game, so I'll give it to you. Sirianni - nah, he's looking more and more like a complete fraud. I think it's more likely McD is an HC in 2 years than Sirianni is. Vrabel - I like Vrabel. I think he can flat out coach and I think his teams are usually really tough. Titans are terrible now. Give it to you. Bowles - this is a joke, right? Anyone who has ever watched the Buccaneers ever, including Brady's twilight year, would know that Bowles' inexplicable coaching decisions have cost them many games. He was also a disaster in NY and hasn't learned. No chance. I think there's 8-9 in here that are arguable. The Bowles inclusion is absolutely bizarre, I think he's McD with a head injury personally.

Completely fair. Here's a list of the HC's hired in the last 3 seasons. Ryans Gannon Reich Steichen Daboll O'Connell McDaniel Eberflus Staley Saleh Smith McDaniels Campbell That list has 3 playoff wins between them. Now obviously, a lot of those teams are mediocre to bad, which is why they were in the head coaching market to begin with. But how many of those guys have bright futures in the league, in your opinion? Probably Steichen, McDaniel, Ryans and maaaaaaaybe O'Connell/Daboll. Campbell will probably be a solid HC, I don't think he's spectacular. Reich, McDaniels, Smith, Saleh, Eberflus, Staley are/were all disasters.

He might win 1 SB, sure. So might Shanahan. But neither have won yet. And only 4 coaches in NFL history have won 3 or more. There's much better odds that neither ever win than they ever surpass Reid. Like infinitely higher. Like a $5 bet would win you $5 million type odds. McD, if he wins this week (which he will) will be the two seed. The Eagles have next to no chance of winning their division and will be the fifth seed. Patrick Mahomes, the best QB in football, can't get higher than the third seed. I wouldn't touch Sirianni with a ten foot pole tbh. I think he's a supremely overrated coach with one of the most talented rosters in football, and this gigantic falter at the end of the season is largely a coaching issue. Like I said, if you want a coaching change, that's fine. IMO, you can't argue McD isn't a current top 10 head coach in the NFL. Like easily. I challenge anyone to name more than 9 coaches they would rather have than McD. The funny thing is some folks will say they wouldn't want BB as a HC next year, then say that jamokes like Harbaugh and Tomlin are better coaches than McD because they won a Superbowl a decade ago. It's contradiction city.

you think Sirianni could seriously make an argument for number of Super Bowl wins, when he’s never won one? I agree a young up and comer is possible. I also know that when 5-6 new HC's are hired every year, the data tells us almost all of them will be worse coaches than McD.

In all seriousness, what current NFL head coaches would you take over McD next season?

I think it’s absolutely reasonable to want a new voice in the locker room. I thought it was more reasonable to want it when the team was dead in the water 8 weeks ago. But it’s not necessary to believe McD is a loser and a bad coach to want a change. The Eagles fired Reid famously despite being pretty successful because they never got over the hump. The Eagles won a Super Bowl before Reid did and got to a second. Does that mean Sirianni or Pederson are better coaches than Reid? Of course not. And no one would argue that, unless they were hell-bent on being foolish.

That’s great for the teams they won them for. The only coaches in the NFL I would take over McD for the Bills next season are Shanny, McVay, Reid and maybe BB but probably not. Would you want BB?

Josh at least has the weapons excuse. Jalen Hurts has a good running back, a really good OL, a really good TE (who was hurt to be fair) and 2 good to great WR’s. The only reason for Hurts to struggle passing as much as he had this season is: 1. he’s significantly injured or 2. He just ain’t that good. If I’m an Eagles fan, I’m sweating that he isn’t the guy at all. I’m not sweating that in Buffalo.

Good thing Sean’s gonna win it this year. See you at the parade.

No x 2. von is done. He has played his last down as a bill.

Um, yes. Since 2017: Carroll is 1-4. 20% win percentage. BB is 5-3 McCarthy is 1-2 Harbaugh is 1-4 Payton is 3-4 Tomlin is 0-3 McVay 7-3 Shanny is 6-3 So at this point, by your playoff win% standards, McD is like a top 5 coach in the NFL. The only coaches with more or the same or more playoff games and a better playoff record since 2017 is McVay, Shanny, BB and Reid. Try to actually compare him to other coaches with the same standard. You call the stats deceptive, but what they really do is paint a picture you don't like. Folks love to say how good Tomlin and Harbaugh are, and they've won like 2 playoff games in a decade. But hey, if that's good, McD is elite lmao, Criteria is wins and games.

I think they have neglected his weapons, tbh.

It was to me too. So much so that I didn't do it.

He had a loss vs Eastern Michigan in college and an unknown game at Reedley college so those obviously don't count. 9/23/18 v Vikings W 10/10/21 v Chiefs Domination.... W 12/26/21 v Pats W 9/19/22 v Titans Blowout.... W 10/18/22 v Chiefs W The question is, if we always win when Josh hurdles a defender, why doesn't he hurdle more? Would we have a Super Bowl if he did it more? Discuss.

In fairness to Josh, he held out as long as he could. He didn't start going nuts until the season became do or die. If he truly is hurt, the Bills need to do a better job, collectively, of not putting us into a hole early in the season. If we need psycho Josh to win game in November and stay alive in the hunt, we are gonna see a lot of fizzled seasons.

I placed a bet for Josh to win MVP before the Chiefs game. I had a cash out opportunity this week. Offering still pretty good money. To me, that says Vegas still thinks he has a decent shot.