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6 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
Fair points but Let me respond. I've never sad he's a bad player. I've said he's not the player he used to be. I stand by that statement. Sure I've over exaggerated my points. I'll concede that. Saying he's better than anything we have on the roster isn't saying much. I agree with you there. He's getting paid beyond well and is dare to say over paid. His agent did a helleva job.
Lastly, I think it's more than fair to point out his all pro teammate. Players make players better. To think otherwise is ridiculous.
Okay. I'd like you to show me how he's not the player he used to be, which has always been a very effective DE.
To be more direct: Where has his game suffered over the years that's a concern for you?
I don't see how 17ish million a year is an overpay. It's very similar to Chandler Jones, who is by all metrics around as efficient as Miller. Better yet, show me a player with a similar statline who has gotten paid much less this season. I don't think you're going to find it because this is a very fair market value.
"Players make players better". Well I'll say that I hope that's true, because of one of the benefits of having a superstar leader like Miller is that your young DE core gets to learn from one of the best ever.
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2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
I get the excitement but let's take a closer look. Miller isn't the force he used to be. Last year, he wasn't an everyday player. Not sure of his official snap count. He got 9 sacks on a team that has Darnold who was double and triple teamed. After the dusk settles, perhaps some will see some validity to my criticism.
This reads like you had a few too many beers.
You keep talking about how Miller has slowed down/regressed except the numbers don't reflect that, in fact none of the metrics that you associate with DEs say anything like it.
What they do say is that he's still a highly effective DE with excellent body control, a great pressure win rate, bend, and someone who needs to be accounted for on the field by offenses. He was much, much more efficient last season (a very down season, according to you) than anyone the Bills had.
If you're going to make the claim, back it up with facts. Playing with Donald is not a negative, and it's ridiculous to somehow hold it against him (playing with Darnold is something entirely different).
These are poor, low information takes that don't make much sense. You're railing against a contract you're willfully not understanding; you're calling a player bad when the reality he's better than anyone the Bills currently have rostered. It's just silly.-
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Just now, ganesh said:
NFL.com is reporting that $51M guaranteed and average of 17.5M per year for the 1st four years.... we will have him for 3-4 years depending on how he plays out.
Which is perfect when you look at the rookie deals we have for Basham/Rousseau. As Von Miller slows down these guys should be able to pick up the mantle (assuming development pans out).
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2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
Of course not. My issue is the contract. You really think he's going have anything left in year 3, 4, 5, and 6? The Bills brass made a terrible financial decision long term. Chandler Jones was a much better asset.
It's a good thing the structure of the contract has clear and easy outs for years 4-5-6 with little to no guaranteed money. It's also really easy to go find this information by this point of the news breaking.
Also, Chandler Jones is almost the same age as Miller, and by most metrics is not as efficient as Miller. I think you can argue that Jones might be a better asset but it's not nearly as clear cut as you're making it out to be.
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This is a great TE2 signing with tremendous upside. Add in the fact that he's on a cheap "prove it" deal and it's hard not to like this move.
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1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:
Buddy Nix would have taking a nap.
Doug Whaley works at night, but it's only to go on podcasts and act like a petty baby and pout about the Bills to Tyler Dunne.
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1 minute ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:
I'm still thinking DL in the first round. We'll need an intervention soon.
With Jordan Phillips likely being signed with the Bills I think it's unlikely that we'll invest anything meaningful into the DL now.
Still possible but I wouldn't expect it in the early rounds. CB/WR have become much more likely to me.
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1 minute ago, Big Turk said:
Hughes was still one of the most effective players at getting pressure in the NFL, ranking 9th in the NFL last year amongst all edge defenders.
This classification does not hold water
If anything, I'd love to get Hughes on a team friendly 1 year deal now. I doubt it'll happen though but I think it could be a killer combo.
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2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
I think the pass rush was pretty underrated last season too so they could be absolute animals this year.
They were excellent in pressure rate, but it didn't materialize into sacks. I think this season with the line additions and the signing of Von Miller the sack production is going to jump up. Not necessarily from Miller, but I see us collapsing pockets and getting interior pressure that turn into sacks. Should be super fun to watch.
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The uhhh... check's in the mail.
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1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
I think people maybe didn’t notice as much because Aaron Donald always got the spotlight? That’s just a wild guess cuz von was great last year lol
I think there's a contingent of Bills' fans who aren't NFL fans, and they know that Von Miller who was on the Broncos and the Broncos weren't great, ergo Von Miller must not be as good anymore.
He's not Superbowl MVP caliber anymore, for sure, but he's way better and more efficient than any DE that was on the Bills last season and that's by a large margin.
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5 minutes ago, JBI$111 said:
This contract seems more like a rookie GM handling it & reaching for a name or a splash for marketing purposes because he missed on a few others this year that we may or may not know about aka like Russ Brandon in the past (which never worked out), that's way too much and ridiculous regardless of how it's back-loaded.
I like Brandon Beane a lot, but this just seems like an over zealous reach & inexperience GM move. Stupid and he really got fleeced & overpaid! They need better offensive lineman, a cornerback or two, a really good linebacker and another stud wide receiver like DK Metcalf. Also, a better running back then just Singletary.
Half the damn team is made up of defensive lineman and way too much money is tied up on the defensive & line across the board. Von is good, but not that great anymore and 32!
$120 million for 6 years even if it only ends up being 4 years at $17 million per, ridiculous!
$10 million a year... maybe I'd be on board, but welcome Von!
I'd love for you to explain how he's "not that great" when all of the metrics say that he's better than guys who got similar contracts.
Pressure win rate, tackles, hell even just sacks are better/more efficient than a guy like Chandler Jones.
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Just now, Awwufelloff said:
He’s 33 next week. He’s not what he used to be. Dude got paid
9 sacks in the last 8 games he played. All of the advanced metrics point to Miller being slightly more efficient than Chandler Jones, who everyone seemed to want.
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There has never been a bad OJ on the Bills. Career year confirmed.
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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:
Biggest defensive signing since Mario Williams?
Bigger when you see the implications.
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With the details of the contract leaking, this is a phenomenal signing.
The Bills just got a legit leader on defense with superbowl experience. I love this pick on so many levels. The development of our pieces on DE, our win now chances, and the fact that we didn't give up any assets.
BEANE KNOCKED THIS OUT OF THE PARK.
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Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:
Wonder how much is voidable 😝According to Ian Rapoport, it’s a six-year deal worth $120 million, which is a massive contract for a pass rusher who’s about to turn 33 years old on March 26.
It's being reported that it's more a 3 year/53 million dollar contract with all the outs.
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Just now, billsbackto81 said:
He's one month younger than Chandler Jones.
He only seems older in the mind of football fans because he's been a legit superstar for so long.
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Pretty wild signing.
In terms of a leader for the DE room, you definitely can't ask for better than Miller. This is an established superstar professional.
The contract is nuts, but I suspect it'll make more sense when we see the details with void years and all that.
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12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
I don't see anything wrong with this if you're signing him to be a depth piece at a depth price.
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I don't see us signing a higher profile WR at this point. I definitely think it's possible we draft one in R1-2 of the draft though.
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1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:
I guess. I dont know what the difference is. I just know we can save $1.5M cutting Star at some point. If we can get Jordan for that amount, then I'd take that wash.
It's my understanding that we save 1.5 million this season if we cut him before June 1st, but if we cut him afterwards then we can save almost 5 million this season. I'm in no way a salary cap expert but they've said similar on WGR and Cover1.
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5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
If he'll take $1.5M or less you pull the trigger and then cut Star.
I'm all for cutting Star but it's gotta be one of those post June 1 cuts right?
I mean what's best for the Bills is if they can just convince Star to retire.
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Phillips would have to be a depth signing at a very low contract to make any sense.
Yeah the guy had a career year here in Buffalo but it felt really flukey honestly, even though he's a scheme fit.
Von Miller vs Khalil Mack
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As others have said, the defensive line has not had a true leader and now we have one in Von Miller. I don't know that Mack would be able to do as well in that regard and you need to give up picks for Mack.