Bruffalo
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Just now, HappyDays said:
Well they're ultimately an entertainment business and that appearance earned them a lot of positive attention, which is a very profitable outcome for the organization. The rant to me also felt rehearsed. Like when Beane paused for a second and Jeremy White started stammering "uh, uh" and Beane interrupted him "let me finish" like he was waiting to say that. I'm not a conspiracy nut and I'm not saying I know for sure it was a stunt, but everything this regime has done on the public facing side has been very calculated from day one. So that's my theory.
I don't know if WGR was in on it but I think Beane knew what he was doing and what the reaction would be. I'm not convinced anymore that he just flew off the handle willy nilly.
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Prime Flutie for me and I don't know that it's really close. Fitz is a distant second.
Flutie could make magic happen, I'd prefer having a wildcard backup QB who can make plays out of nothing when things break down over a gunslinger like Fitz.
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I think you have to tier them (but I'll rank them inside each tier too):
Tier A
Shakir
Palmer
Samuel (when healthy)
All "proven" WRs who put up respectable enough numbers and are known commodities. Outside of injury, you shouldn't get surprised here on what you get.
Tier B
Kincaid
Coleman
Moore
All high round draft picks who show a lot of potential but haven't had the volume or opportunity to be "the guy". Lots of upside potential here but unrealized at this point in time. I like that the Bills have guys in this tier because one of them very well pop off and rocket to the top of tier A by the end of the season.
Tier Knox
Dawson Knox lives here. He's fine.
Tier "WGR caller from Cheektowaga"
KJ Hamler
Laviska Shenault Jr.
Jalen Virgil
Tyrell Shavers
As far as I'm concerned, for this upcoming season, these guys are only here for drunk retirees to call in to WGR from ~6-9:30 and blather about how we need to "give them a shot". Realistically, they should only be active on gameday if it's the preseason or something horrific has happened to the WR room.
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That seems pretty cheap all things considered. I'm guessing the Steelers wouldn't have traded him inside the conference, because it seems like the Chiefs or Bills would have been at least in the running for a player like this.
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I'm firmly in the camp that losing Davis was addition by subtraction, even though he had some great games as a Bill. So many of Allen's INTs two seasons ago were Davis targets.
Maybe he'd be fine as a WR5 depth piece if you never give him a choice or option route. I swear to god he was never on the same page as Allen.
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Live look at Cleveland when Tucker gets signed and him and Watson go out on the town:
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57 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:
Could do a lot worse in the 4th round
Prime Jordan Phillips had almost 10 sacks in a season, his skillset was maximized here in Buffalo. If Walker has a performance like that within the first 3 years of playing with the Bills it'll be a slam dunk pick.
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4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
Our long national nightmare is over
Again can we please be factual. They drafted a WR in the 7th.
Do I need to bring up Shavers and KJ Hamler too? Let’s be real, he’s not making the 53 unless he shocks everyone.
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Decent signing since they didn’t get anyone in the draft.
Lots of upside, been with bad QBs and orgs his whole career. Fast. Outside and slot ability.
Big fan of this.
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4 minutes ago, transient said:
...there is the little matter of "Everybody eats". It's not like he'd be a featured piece of the offense, just another mouth to feed.
If Moore ends up with the Bills he will likely have a career year. I'd bet on it if I wasn't morally against that kind of thing.
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47 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:
You’d have to be an idiot not to try to resurrect your career with Josh Allen.
For real, it should be an easy decision for someone as young as Moore. Sign a two year deal, get inflated stats because Allen's gonna Allen, go off and sign/fleece another team with a Gabe Davis level contract.
I like Moore a lot in the draft process, so I don't see much reason not to. He's got great upside.
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7 minutes ago, Luka said:
I guess my question is, who was the can't miss prospect at wide receiver that the Bills had a realistic opportunity to draft?
Can't miss? There wasn't one. Not really the point though.
NFL history has plenty of WRs taken in late rounds who end up being great. 5-6th round guys who end up surprising everyone. You can't get the next Puka Nacua without taking a swing.
That's really my only complaint with Beane this draft. You need to shore up the defense with 4 big draft picks? Sure, I trust you. Throw Allen a bone though with some 5th-6th round lottery tickets and maybe a guy will shock you coming out of training camp.
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1 minute ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:
That is true there are some diamonds towards the end of the first round most years. I don’t think anybody knew Jefferson was going to be the guy that he is though.
I think the sad truth is that they chose to invest in Keon Coleman, and while obviously I want him to succeed, he’s not the guy anybody really wanted because he doesn’t separate.Coleman could still be decent, his ceiling is huge. Whether or not it's attainable is an entirely other question.
Honestly if they go out and sign Moore and maybe another guy who's had potential but couldn't put it together I'll be satisfied for the most part. That's probably about the same as getting a WR in the 4-5th round in terms of potential.
Beane shouldn't be so salty when folks rightfully question the room though, it's very clearly something that Allen elevates, not something that's a strength.
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Just now, The Firebaugh Kid said:
The irony of the situation is that they have Elijah visiting today 🤣
Beane did a great job addressing the defense in the draft and in the off-season.
I think it’s a personally very reasonable for fans to expect that they should’ve drafted a receiver to develop within the first three rounds but sounds like they didn’t really like many of them.
We all want Justin Jefferson and Ja’Marr Chase but when you’re 13 and four every year it’s almost impossible to get your hands on those guys. I’ll take being good over having shiny toys.Jefferson went 22nd so I don't know if you're making the point you want to make. That would be absolutely reachable this draft if the Bills wanted to. I'm not saying the Bills were wrong for not going and getting someone like Golden, to be fair.
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Beane was extremely defensive about his decision making process, obviously way more than was warranted. He's probably not having a great morning and is taking aggression out.
I don't think the morning show is particularly critical to the Bills, the afternoon show is way more worse and condescending towards Beane's decisions.
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48 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
They believe their picks of Kincaid and Coleman are going to make some big leap in play. We shouldn't have to wait imho. Look at what other WR could have done for us. BTJ is a guy we could have traded up for.
Pretty surprising (to me anyways) considering how McDermott and Beane talked about Coleman in the end of year pressers.
I'd love it to see a leap forward and be proven wrong, but I think it's not the best strategy to count on it.
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I’m not a fan of the day three strategy, although the individual players are fine.
Overall I think I sum up the draft like this: It better work, otherwise Beane and McD are going to look pretty silly.
If we get the same playoff result with the defense underperforming it’ll be a massive inditement on McD and Beane.
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1 hour ago, ganesh said:
May be they have a deal for Amari in place
Amari is done.
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1 minute ago, Delete_Delete_Delete said:
Yet after 18 games they still did their job against the defending two time champs. The other side of the ball was a vastly different story, which is they lost that game and why they’re throwing as much as they possible can at the defense between free agency and the draft.
Josh just won the MVP with that system.
You expecting some precipitous fall off after almost two years in Brady’s offense doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.Not “precipitous” but enough to lose us enough close games to matter.
Day 3 flyers for actual competition in a room that’s largely responsible for most of your points isn’t a big ask.
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Just now, Delete_Delete_Delete said:
How many ppg did the Bills average last year?
To expect the same production after 19 games of showing your system with largely the same players is crazy.
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To not even try and bring in competition at offense is nuts to me.
Its not like the WR core is even really considered to be top 16
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Just now, LABILLBACKER said:
Josh doesn't need wrs. He'll just throw it to himself.
It’s frustrating to finally have a talent at QB finally and then just not try to maximize him at all.
Been waiting since Kelly and we are doing Allen dirty.
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Do they just hate WR as a concept?
Got to pray there are a lot of steps forward in the skill positions I guess. Bad strategy.
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Thought Exercise: Best Bills QB (99-2017) who'd be JA17 backup
in The Stadium Wall
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I think Flutie in a modern offense would be a more effective Kyler Murray. I think he'd shine with Joe Brady or a lot of the newest generation of OCs.