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    Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

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    Just now, Billl said:

    At this point, do they really?  The team has pushed basically all of their chips into the pot the last two seasons.  A rebuild is coming soon that will involve just about everyone other than Josh.  So far, there's nothing to show for having been a top 5 team for three straight seasons.

     

    2023 is the last shot this version of the team has to win it all.  Guys like Miller, Poyer, Hyde, Oliver, and possibly even Diggs will likely be either moved or relegated to backups due to age by 2024.  If Hopkins is the final piece to win a championship, he's worth it at any price.  If they don't win, Beane is likely gone by 2024 or 2025 either way.

     

    If someone like Kansas City outbids Buffalo for Hopkins and wins a Superbowl, Beane will be a pariah.  Nobody is going to care that he saved a draft pick.

    I agree with everything you're saying, and I just want to add: By most reports, Hopkins isn't going to cost that much in terms of draft capital.  Some are arguing because of his contract it might only be a 4th or 5th round pick and possibly a player.  

     

    This isn't even mortgaging the future like the Rams have done. It's just making your team better right now. 

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    A players perspective on the Bengals game

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    8 hours ago, Beck Water said:

     

    You called it - it’s a cliff-hanger to get people to subscribe.  Ty Dunne’s thing with “Go Long” is …long articles, so that piece that looks long enough to be an article is actually his intro.  I dunno about “shameless”, it seems like SOP to offer people a sample and see if you can get them to buy a bottle or a hunk of cheese so to speak.

     

    I thought Dunne was a very good writer when he was with TBN, and I admire him for coming up with an independent business plan that’s evidently working to make him a living - good for him! But I haven’t been too intrigued by some of his interview choices…early on, he spent a lot of time talking to former Bills FO employees Tom Monos and Doug Whaley (a man who clearly has no ax to grind with the Bills or Sean McDermott) about the state of the Bills, and I just didn’t want to hear it.  I liked parts of his podcast with Isaiah McKenzie but I also felt he kind of ‘used’ McKenzie by drawing him on to maybe say stuff that could get him in trouble with McDermott.  So I haven’t personally been moved to subscribe.

     

    ??? By the Bye week?  Seriously?  Like, at the point of the season where we thumped the Steelers then beat the Chiefs in a pretty clean game where we had 125 yds rushing, Josh Allen only had 35 of those, 3 TD 0 INT 329 yds passing while picking Mahomes twice?

     

    At that point, it was apparent to you that something was not right?

    Dunne has a vendetta against the current Bills regime. I don't even think it's debatable.  He's been consistently negative on them since the moment they took over. 

     

    That being said, he's not entirely wrong that a philosophy change is warranted. He's just a jerk about it. 

    Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

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    19 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

    Its AZ that will say no to that.  They want a good pick and a player.  

    I did say "if it's available", which would be a presupposition that AZ would be interested in the deal as stated. "Who says no to that?" is from the Bills perspective. 

     

    I also said earlier in the thread that I think it's unlikely that Hopkins goes to the Bills.


    It's fun to speculate. Let people speculate. 

    Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

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    1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said:

    I mean it makes a lot of sense. He wants an extension and Beane seems to be in no rush to extend him.

    And Beane shouldn't be, honestly. He was a very high pick that has not been nearly consistent enough or dominant enough, and I think he's started to run out of excuses as to why. 

     

    He's a solid, good player, but not the superstar that we drafted him to be.  Good teams don't pay solid players like superstars. 

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    Bills sign Damien Harris

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    23 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

     

    There is no "argument" about that at all.  With Cook and Hines on the roster signing another clone of them would be foolish.

    I couldn't dare to think Beane could sign Harris to a deal like this last month!

    There's an argument to be made that you'd rather keep Singletary and lose Hines, but then you're losing the return game as well. 

     

    Overall, I'm happy with the RB room with how it's shaken out. 

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    Offensive outlook post Free Agency

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    It just boils down to this: The Bills thought certain guys (Davis, McKenzie, Saffold, Moss, Spencer Brown, Ryan Bates) would step up and be adequate to good contributors on the offense, and none of them stepped up to a level that was acceptable for a team of this caliber.  They've made some low end upgrades, and they still have faith apparently in Davis, Brown, and Bates in that they didn't go replace them.

     

    I think the offense is slightly better. Slightly better might be enough to make things way less clunky. It's hard to say. I want to see more offensive investment via the draft. G/C, WR, TE, T... any of those early would be a boon, but you've got to remember that McD absolutely refuses to play rookies. 

    Bills sign Damien Harris

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    2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

    I'm not on board with the OBJ hype. He's older coming off an injury and wants a ton of money. 

     

    I'm more inclined to draft a WR and spend that OBJ money on the oline. Protect Allen and he will deliver. 

    I understand the sentiment, but are there any meaningful upgrades left with the O-Line in FA?  I'd like to see investment in the offense heavily this draft, but I'm not holding my breath.

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    Bills sign Damien Harris

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    6 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

    Sorry but I was a big Gabe fan going into last year, but dude he was LOST last year. Not in the same page running the wrong way, tons of drops, miscommunications, just a brutal year. It was all mental too.

    I'm with you.  Gabe is in the final year of his contract and I don't see how the Bills can feel comfortable about offering him another deal. It's why even if they land OBJ I still want to see investment into WR early into the draft, and then maybe take a flyer on a guy late as well.

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    Bills sign Damien Harris

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    1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said:

    Exactly.

     

    People here act like Harris is some bum. He roasted this defense over and over again.

     

    His name isn't Zeke/ Henry/ Fournette.

     

    Same dude at this point in their careers and younger and cheaper.

    He's arguably better than Zeke, and he's definitely better than Fournette, who looked shockingly bad last season. 

     

    Henry would be a more impactful signing but certainly not a move I would want them to make considering the cost.

     

    Harris is a good, smart signing.

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