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JoPoy88

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  1. 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

     

     

     

    Come on, it’s not really comparable.  Look, I keep trying to leave Zay alone, and I was honestly more critical of Cole week 1 than Zay.  And was also critical of all WRs not named Brown and said the most disappointing player to this point is Foster whose been slowed by turf toe.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

    As you should be. Seriously if Zay had boofed that ball that deflected into an INT and then dropped an easy breadbasket catch later in the game, as Cole did? Holy hell there would be burning pitchforks out for Zay and YOU would be the one leading it. Just be consistent bro I know you can be.

  2. 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

     

    If Zay was a better player he would be on the field more.  Wake me when Zay does something in an actual game that isn’t against the Dolphins.

     

    PS:  We weren’t running 2 1 sets last year...yet Zay has 40 or less yards in 10 of the 13 games with Allen, and 22 or less yards in 4 of the 7 games since Allen came back from injury.

     

    Seriously how many excuses are you going to make for a 2nd round pick putting up 40 or less yards in 23 of his 32 careers games in which he started almost all of them?  A guy who was still dropping passes and making mistakes in preseason as a 3rd year WR too.  

     

    Its up to Zay to show the coaches he needs more reps...it’s up to Zay to silence the criticisms on the field.  

     

    But keep the excuse train flowing, haven’t seen this type of spin work since people kept trying to convince me Trent and Fitzpatrick were good when it was clear as day they weren’t.  

     

    There are dozens of people here consistently working the same kind of spin for Josh Allen though. 

  3. 10 minutes ago, ko12010 said:

    Hey man, keep your mind open. All of you should be questioning the legitimacy of this AB bs. The timing, the social agenda inclusion right on cue. The only people who react w derision and or anger and laughing are too controlled by their ego and not basic logic. 

     

    Just for instance, take the massive disclosures of international pedo rings w top celebs and politicians. Thought you had the world figured out before you learned about that I bet. So maybe people should keep their minds open and not act like there's nothing they don't know about. 

     

    I promise you AB, Kap, Brady, Kraft, and top people in other sports are all involved w this stuff.

     

    Hey bud all I said was it was interesting. You do you. I don’t know much about modern day paganism or satanism so Ima take your word for it

  4. 11 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

    You can do the research for yourself. There are plenty of receivers throughout the history of the NFL that have risen above the talent level surrounding them. I have always been a fan of Jones and never posted any real criticisms of him, other than saying, in this thread, he has not consistently played at the level I believe he is capable of, and certainly not at the level you would expect of the 37th overall pick in the draft.

     

    It's just my opinion. If you believe otherwise, fine.

     

    No that’s on me I thought you meant only Bills’ receivers, not league-wide. Which is why I was wondering whom on the Bills in recent history you had in mind. 

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  5. 54 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

     

    Uncalled for.    

     

    No reason to fall apart just because Zay can’t live up to his high draft pick status.   

     

     

    To each his own. Continuing to make fun of someone’s clear mental breakdown, whether brought on by substance use or not, is uncalled for in my eyes, especially when everyone else in the thread was making good, salient points about his actual PLAY on the field. 

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  6. On 9/11/2019 at 1:21 PM, Kelly the Dog said:

    Read and comment on the site if so inclined for this week's game summary, with the little shout out to TBD at the end, as always.

    https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/10/buffalo-bills-bills-fans-new-york-jets-josh-allen-tremaine-edmunds/

     

    This may or may not have a paywall for subscription, according to various reports. ;)

     

    Shame about the paywall. Sure you said some good stuff but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

  7. 59 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    It is not sample size, it is the approach each regime takes.  That is independent of sample size.  Do you think based on what you know of Terry Pegula that he would be serviced by immigrant women in a massage parlor?  Do you think based on what we know of McD and Beane they would allow their employees to deliberately deflate footballs to gain an illegal advantage?  Would they put up with Allen then lying about it?  Would they illegally film other teams’ practices? Would they do that?

     

    You are taking one guy in Brown, a guy they did not sign,  a guy they did not bring in, and trying to say that means they are likely no different that the Pats, who not only did all the above but brought this guy in after all the nonsense with the Raiders and still plan to play him after these latest allegations.  You really think that comes close to equivalence?

     

    You’re putting it in a slightly different way now and I can get with this a bit more. 

     

    Still, there’s some hindsight in your reply - no I dont think Terry would get caught doing what Kraft did, but honestly I didn’t think Kraft was going to get caught for that either.

     

    And I agree completely about the other players on the team. I love Tre, Lorax, Allen, Gore, all the current leaders on the team. AND YET - we don’t REALLY know them. But I’d be shocked if any of those guys I named were accused of anything close to what AB is facing.

  8. 4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    Calling people liars because they don’t happen to concur with your slant on things is ridiculous and you should be glad you’re not doing that to my face.  

     

    Shaw was quite clear that this regime has had some guys with questionable stuff, Incognito being an example.  What happened there was Terry and Kim had to be convinced by Richie that he had learned from his previous stuff and would straighten up.  And he did.  And while we can’t know for sure when they renegotiated his contract it may be they saw chinks in Richie’s armor and wanted to start guarding against that if he went off the deep end.  Which he did and then was gone.

     

    Will this regime be perfect?  Maybe not, none are.  Will they be as Shaw states as amoral as the Pats?  Not a chance.

     

    Well we’ll give it 18 more years and see. The premise is flawed, especially when you’re now dealing in relative “morality.” Incognito? AB? isolated incidents. With the pats he points to specific players and incidents which could, over the course of 20 years, could also be considered isolated. Again, sample size. Look at the Bengals in comparison or Cleveland recently. Where’s the hate for them?

  9. Just now, oldmanfan said:

    Let’s deal with facts.  The Bills took a look before the latest crap and said no.  The Pats said yes even after the latest crap.  That’s reality.

    The original argument was that the OP would rather have this “moral” regime than the “amoral” pats and their 6 rings. Inquiring into AB after he quit on his team last year doesn’t ring as promoting all the BS mcdermott promotes publicly. If you say the deal wasn’t closed so it doesn’t count I’d call you a liar and a hypocrite.

  10. 8 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    It makes no sense statistically to compare just by years if you’re talking about the philosophy of an organization.  Philosophy is dictated by leadership.  You compare based on the different regimes.

     

    And we should all hope McD and Beane are here 20 years because it will mean their approach is highly successful.

     

    And two years isn’t enough time to say these guys are “moral.” They inquired into Brown after all. No, a deal wasn’t close, but it’s accepted that Beane at least made inquiries to Pitt on AB. So strike one against that argument. 

  11. 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    Yes, because that has been their regime including the owner and HC.  Robert Kraft doesn’t run his organization the same way as did Billy Sullivan.  Nor does Belicheat do what say Ray Berry did as their HC.  

     

    McD and Beane have their philosophy of constructing a team.  It is different than what say Lou or Marv did.  Terry has a different ownership approach than Ralph.  To say the Bills have bad actors in the past is immaterial to what the current guys are doing.  Just as it is immaterial that past coaches or owners of the Pats to my knowledge never reached out to put a guy like AB on their roster.  What matters is what Belicheat and Kraft are doing. And they brought this guy on (and Belicheat is getting roasted for his typical non-answer stuff about it today).  

     

    I like what the current guys are doing.  That’s what’s relevant.

     

    Yeah and there’s plenty more bad actors and bad actions when you’re comparing a regime with another one that’s been around 10x as long. Sample size and all that. Ignore that variable and sure, McD and Beane are pure as snow (so far.) But it aint necessarily convincing.

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