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Nah, I’ll pass.
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2yr 32M, 17 guaranteed this yr, contract voidable by either party for next year and guaranteed against injury for 2021. Should be a done deal.
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The Pats still have time and good options available at QB. I don’t want to see Cam Newton there on a prove it deal. The Bills will be in just as much trouble w NE.
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8 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:
Sign White if he gives you a bit of a discount for the early deal. If not take advantage of the first round pick 5th year option.
Hold tight on Milano and Dawkins. I see an OT early in this draft as insurance against Dawkins leaving. Milano is a great story but he can be replaced. I think when they extended Poyer it sealed the fate of Milano as the guy they will let walk on defense. Barring injury Hyde will get paid and if Edmunds and Allen develop they need to save money somewhere.
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38 minutes ago, WideRightRevenge said:
At first on heels of Texans stupid trade of Hopkins .. thought WOOAHH ... way too much. Now after reading more ... the 5th and 6th were really extra picks from (Bodine / Teller) .. the 4th in 2021 is comp pick for Lawson ... let's call the 6th & 7th exchange fungible ... so we spent a #1 on a proven STUD WR vs. crap shoot draft pick (see list of failed #1 WR picks in recent years) ... Yep .. that's a A in my book.
The 4th is not a comp pick, those have not even been thought of yet and at this point the Bills have signed more than they have lost, so no comps coming at all.14 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
This is the kind of move I wanted them to make too. On the picks though, that package doesn’t even get you to 20. Maybe if the team trading back is really motivated and knows they can slide for the same player they were taking at 20 anyway, but that would be very rare. I’ve harped on this in my “trade up for Lamb” posts, but I’ll say it again. We need difference makers on offense and #1 WR is our biggest skill position hole. This move accomplished what pick 22 wasn’t going to: acquiring a difference making #1 WR who is ready to be that kind of player out of the gate. Finding an elite player at 22 is rare. Finding an elite WR at 22 in any given draft is pretty much impossible. And expecting that player to be elite from day 1 is the stuff of Disney films. Beane really did an excellent job here. I still graded it a B because I think we got close to exactly what we needed and paid a fair price for it. My nitpicks are that I’d have preferred a bigger WR with no locker room concerns. I reserve my A grades for near perfect fits and/or bargains. Still, this is damn close to that. I’ll take this every day.
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1 minute ago, The Dean said:
Total drivel. The 49ers had Montana and Young. Too bad neither was good enough to be a #1 QB
Stop with the "wise man" quotations. They mean NOTHING.
Montana was a HOF player and THE BEST at his position, Young was the heir apparent. The comparison holds zero weight because guess what, they had 1 and Montana was the clear one until age was in question and Young took over. Use your Corona vacation to get educated in logic big guy.
Neither Diggs nor Theilen is considered a top WR in the NFL no matter how hard you homers try to spin it. A guy averaging 72 catches, 12.7 ypc and 6 TD is what you would consider a first round bust. Guys like that are walking around in FA, in fact the Bills signed that guy last year, John Brown.
I remember why I stopped coming here, so much homerism and no reality.
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1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said:
It is hard to take your POV seriously when you apply a quote on QBs to WRs.
Same principal, if you have two who people think are #1s, but neither are top 10 at their position, you don’t have a #1.
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1 hour ago, The Dean said:
I didn't realize it was impossible for a team to have multiple players of great talent, at the same position. How could I be so naive?
Neither one is a top WR, both just good. Great is reserved for those that actually are. As Parcels said, “if you have 2, you don’t have one”39 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:You seriously are not getting it
- WIDELY considered to be one of the best if not THE best route runner in the NFL
- Your talking about what ifs for a rookie player who has not played a DOWN in the NFL.....every single one of these WR's could bust....Justin Jefferson could end up being the best WR out of this draft in the end.....look at what happened with Sammy Watkins.
Your trying to take what ifs and make them into real time now facts. It just doesnt cumpute.
You are the one not getting it, the guy is a borderline #1 and you want to crown the Bills as making a great deal. He is An AVERAGE starter, not a star.
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24 minutes ago, The Dean said:
Some would argue siting stats alone, without a deeper context of their roles, offenses, circumstances, etc, is a rather shallow way to compare two different players from two different teams.
Some might, for example, point out that Diggs was either Co-#1 (some argue he was #2) with Thielen while Brown was a clear #1 in the Bills offense in 2019.
Some might point out that Diggs was targeted on 94 plays, getting similar results as Brown, who was targeted on 115 plays.
Some would definately point out that Diggs has been the more consistent producer of the two, over the years. While Brown had a near career year with the Bills, Diggs (in a year where he had some issues and was deemed unhappy with the Vikes offense) had his second straight 1,000 yard plus season.
Sane people would be quick to point out Allen over threw WAY more targets that Cousins ever has or will. Hence, it would take far more targets for anyone to produce with Allen throwing.Also of note, if people would argue Diggs wasn’t the bonafide number one for his team, then WHY would you trade a 1st round pick for him?
If Diggs was unhappy with his QB and his role in Minn, what makes anybody think it’s going to get better here? That HAS to be the biggest joke of all this. He was critical of a middle of the road, solid veteran QB on a winning team, playing in a dome. Now you put him with Allen, in the elements and in a situation where it’s going to be hard to repeat a winning record? Doesn’t look like a good move.also, his “reasonable” contract is still $5MM+ more per year than a rookie deal.
7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:A top 10 receiver with attitude problems
He is not top 10, dude wasn’t a number 1 on his own team.
3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:What if lamb never becomes as good as diggs
What if he becomes Julio Jones?
3 hours ago, Jumpsuit Jim said:Is this true? Not the first part of the post. That part sucks. But the second part of the post - the part that says the assets given up for Diggs equal moving up to the 18th pick. If that is true, then this pick was fabulous.
Why? Because most mock drafts would require a move up to 15 to get Ruggs, the third best receiver in this year’s draft. After Ruggs, the talent level - while still high - drops off to a “Less Than Diggs” level.
so it comes down to this: With Ruggs costing us more to get than us getting Diggs, is Ruggs better than Diggs? Maybe. Probably not. One thing for sure is that Ruggs won’t be better than Diggs right out of the box because the NFL is hard.
Is Diggs as good as Diggs? Yes. Because Stefon Diggs is Diggs.
Check the chart, 4th next year is devalued a round. You don’t know what will happen in the draft and Diggs was a low pick, so how can your evaluation be a logical one?
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Awful trade. Diggs is a good player, not a great one. The Bills gave up way too much to get another guy who is basically a slightly juiced up John Brown. Giving up a first was awful, the package is worth the 18th pick overall, I’m not at all impressed, looks like Beane got locked in and lost another trade.
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Meh for a 4th I'd listen.
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Love it, he can be a bell cow.
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57 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:
The Italian health system is on the verge of collapse. Please don’t be ignorant, it’s a life and death issue.The fact their system is over burdened is real, that does not change the actual facts of the matter, please don't try to change the target of the conversation.
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16 minutes ago, Saratoga Leo said:
Tell that to the people in Italy.
10,000 cases, 600 deaths, 58% of deaths were those over 80 yrs old and more than 2/3 of them with pre-existing issues. Just because you have a TINY sample size, does not mean you have facts.
https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/comment/italy-coronavirus-outbreak/
34,000 deaths in 2018-19 flu season in the US and you didn't panic. The mortality rate is high in the same classes of people, it mellows as it gets to the non compromised population, litterally EVERY YEAR. 32,000 people already dead from this flu season, guess what, no panic. Focusing on percentages in a small sample size is foolish.
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Easy to point at the relationship with Pegs daughter, but he DID lead the TEs in receptions in 2018 and DID look pretty good as a receiver out there. Hes big, fast, can catch and ultimately was a project player all along. I would expect he gets cut if he doesn't show well, but for now, I have no issue with continuing to see if he has developed. He's the prototypical TE in todays game and you have little invested in him, worth a shot. Ideally Knox remembers to catch then run and continues to be TE1, steps up to the "Gronk" role ( obviously NOT expecting that level of dominance) and you hope Croom could be the mismatch nightmare like Hernandez was back in the day. If we got 80% of that production, this team is MILES better than last year.
They have been trying to build the Patriots/Panthers here, great D, efficient O that can explode and most of all, confidence they can impose their will. The obvious missing parts are a QB like Brady, but JA did show flashes, the over the middle weapons to move the chains, the Red Zone giant and probably the most over looked part, that MUST CHANGE, a killer instinct, yeah I'm looking at you McDermott, step on throats, not the brake with a 13pt lead. So what they have done, who they signed and keep trying to develop makes sense, even if its not the guys I would neccesarily choose to do it with.
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1 hour ago, Arkady Renko said:
That's because it has not spread as much as the flu yet. The death rate is far higher.
And just like the flu, the death rates starts high and settles down after the its spread outside of the nursing homes where it raises hell. Look af facts, not just the immediate paranoia. Literally every disease death % curve looks similar, high in the begining, as it spreads to millions ( flu every year), the percentage goes way down because it won't kill the healthy. There are even knowledgeable people believing chilren are virtually immune to Covid, meaning its LESS vicious than the flu. Take a small smalle size of anything and the rate can fluxuate vastly from reality. Example, take the Bills winning percentage of the last decade vs the winning percentage for 2 games a year vs the Patriots.. yeah the team already died in that scenario.
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On 3/6/2020 at 1:34 PM, SCBills said:
Agreed, but it’s not Ruggs vs Lamb... It would be Ruggs vs Jefferson/Higgins etc.Are those guys that much of an upgrade over Duke Williams? Maybe. I’m not 100% sold on that though.
I know what Ruggs can do, and while it’s a bit redundant with Brown, he would bring an absurd dimension for the defense to have to counter Allen’s arm and Brown/Ruggs on opposite sides of the field.
You really question if 1st round WRs with all the NFL measurables you can ask for and great hands are better than 4.7 /40, couldn't get on the field "Dropsies" Duke Williams? C'mon now.
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14 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:
He does a really good job of using his hands while the ball is in the air, he will make sure he has enough room to make the catch by stiff-arming the defender nicely and having enough ability to come down with the ball. He reminds me a little of Plaxico Burress when he came out, hopefully he will get some more yac than Plax.
He looks like just what JA needs, someone he can go to for those mid level throws that's going to come down with the ball more often than not. Not going to take the top off the defense but if you like Duke Williams Tee should fill that role well enough to get a lot of time on the field in 2020. Then John Brown will get some more space to do his thing.
Great call on Plax, I was trying to place it, thats a great comparison. He looks fast enough, has some pretty amazing body control and the hands are insane. He should have no problem finding a role in the NFL, but it might take a year before hes a big impact guy.
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1 hour ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
So they lose a 16-0 lead a month after this post and you go back and call me out. Feel better now? Is that what you do regularly go back and do this kind of thing? Wow, you can go back and point out other 99x i've been correct. JEEZ the internet.
Easy big fella, just saying the point was made you can't always coach like you are afraid to lose and you happened to be the guy saying it was working. The problem is when you face real teams, they can score.
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8 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said:
Right now to me Darnold, Trubisky, and Allen are on the same level with regards to reading a defense. I’d bet if you took a look at almost all the good throws the three QBs made this year it falls into (2) categories:
(1) Ball released under 3 seconds (great play design and correct pre-snap read)
(2) Scramble outside of the pocket and find secondary receiver
Year (2) of Trubisky had A LOT of (1). Nagy had a great year as a play caller, and I think DCs caught onto his system a bit this year. These are not QBs that have shown any ability to stay in the pocket and go through their progressions at a high level.
We could be best football friends. You are spot on. When Allen hit the last step of the drop and fired those 6 yard darts to Beasley or had the chance to run around and make a play, good things happen. The moment he had to sit and read the field, all hell broke loose. While I think Darnold is a better passer than Allen, he struggles with pressure and reads as well. I was a big fan of Darnold coming out and thought he would be doing more at this point, he has been a colossal disappointment thus far. That draft calss thatvwas supposed to be '84 or 04' reincarnated, looks like it may go down as the most dissapointing QB drafts in a long time. If I had to call it as I see it now:
Mayfield : solid, never spectacular starter, probably will be replaced.
Darnold : Jamis Winston without the crab legs?
Allen: The struggling version of Cam Newton
Rosen: out if the league after 4 years
Jackson: less of a passer version of Mike Vick, hopefully no dog fights.
Translation, none of the 1st round guys end up as your real franchise players. Where we disagree slightly, I think Darnold still has the best chance to become more, he just has to prove he can read a D. That can be learned, regardless of what people here try to convince me of, I have never seen a wildly innacurate QB ever change the first 21 years of their throwing mechanics in the the pros and suddenly become a great passer, so my hope for Allen is low.
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5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
They went from ultra conservative to ultra aggressive at the end of the Houston game..... Playcalling stupidity on both levels.
Agreed.
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1 minute ago, JetsFan20 said:
Trubisky was on a front running team in year 2, and wasn’t asked to do a ton other than take care of the football. Nagy’s dink and dunk offense works well when you are protecting a 14point lead, but we saw things weren’t great when defense regressed a bit.
This offense was as conservative as any, and you certainly didn't have them going out there looking to score once they had a lead, McDermott is conservative to a fault. It's not different.
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On 1/16/2020 at 1:36 PM, dakrider said:
Regarding receivers - I don't think the Bills have poor receivers, but they just don't have the dynamic playmaking receivers many good teams have.
I've seen Russell Wilson throw up many 50-50 balls and seemingly uncatchable passes that his receivers make a great catch. Many teams also have outstanding tight ends that manage to get open and catch a lot of balls. Bills are deficient in all these areas. Bills need more production from their tight ends, they need their receivers to make plays and they also need a bigger rb to supplement Singletary. You only need a couple of these big plays a game. Bills only really had about 1-2 bad games this year and most of their losses - 1 or 2 big plays would have made the difference.
For me comparing quarterbacks is less to do with stats and more to do with what some of these other qb's (like Wilson or Garappolo) are doing and how their doing it. Looking at stats is just too misleading. Philip Rivers, Jameis Winston, Jared Goff, Matt Ryan, Derek Carr ... all had relatively good stats this year but they don't really propel their teams. Some of them look good between the 20's, some of them just sling the ball all over and have to many turnovers, and some just make critical mistakes. Stats are a fair benchmark but they just don't tell the story.
The issue with what you are saying here is, the ball has to be 50/50 for recievers to have a chance to make that play, Josh has consistently thrown the ball where NO ONE can get to it. He missed by yards on many balls this year. He was let down by Duke Williams in the endzone last game, and Knox got hit in the hands way too many times, but his deep ball, which is where big plays come from, never got close to target until week 10. He consistently left 2-4 bigs plays on the field every week by not even being close and a lot of those were to WIDE OPEN receivers. Smoke should have had 1500 yards this year and been talked about as the break out player of the year, but Allen KILLED his numbers with awful balls. I'm not saying Allen can't get better, but the idea the WRs are the issue is WAY over blown. Remember when EJ " just needed weapons" as did Tyrod etc.. Watkins was handed 14M a year, Woods is a top 20 WR, Goodwin went on to have a really good year in SF. Theres only so much a WR can do, when the QB cant put it on them.
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If this comparison is fair, why not look at the comparison of Mitch Turbisky in his second year vs Allen as fair? He out performed Allen in about every category, except for the digging yourself a first half hole to have to recover from, so there are less comebacks (most over rated "stat" people here love to talk about, btw.). Yet this year, when raw stats suggest he's still a better passer than Allen, it's understood he's a bust and Chicago will have to move on if they are going to get anywhere. Oh and he also lead 3 comebacks and had 3 GWD as well, so he's "clutch".
What would an “All In” move be to you?
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Trade Allen for Brady.