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  1. I don’t think Josh has a snowballs chance in hell of MVP this year with the statistical regression along with more losses, all of which can essentially be put in his lack of performance in the last minutes.  
     

    That said, IDGAF about any of that.  If we get the QB that’s been playing the last few weeks, through these playoffs, there’s a chance finally win the SB.   To me, this week is the biggest hurdle.  KC is still the AFC champ until de-throned, gotta go to their house and take it from them.  The early season win means nothing now, their early season struggles mean nothing now, you have to go throw down in the playoffs and come out with the win.   If they can get it done, I like the chances against either of the Bengals or the Titans.  They should have curb stomped the Titans this season and the D couldn’t hold up, the Bengals are very good, but beatable for sure.

  2. 1 hour ago, Klaus said:

     

    I think Mac's best days are essentially the same as we saw this year. His arm isn't going to get stronger, he isn't going to get faster, so what is the upside. This isn't to say that they don't stick with him, because I think they do, but saying the best years are ahead is a bit of reach, I think he is essentially as good as he will get. 

    Well in fairness, Allen was never going to get more accurate, was never going to see the whole field and would never be more than an athlete trying to play QB.  That thought pattern failed. 
     

    Jones may not pan out, but it’s too early to know. 

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  3. On 1/11/2022 at 8:17 PM, Doc said:

     

    I'm assuming you're being facetious.

     

     

    Good question.  We're going on year 4 now. 

    No, I’m not kidding, rolling with Peterman and Allen is/was one of the worst cases of roster management one could make.  Tyrod wasn’t the answer, but he was/is a fringe starter and they went into the season with zero starting reps at the most crucial position in the game.  Even McCarron had next to nothing, that was stupid. 

  4. 8 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

     

    If it was for more money or to the active roster then that's a different story but again, what would be the point and who gets released/benched for him given how well the dline has played in recent weeks.

    I think they’d find a backend player to move to the PS and then bench Basham.

  5. I honestly would roll with another punter off the street for the playoffs and let Hack be the holder.  One player at the end of your bench isn’t going to make or break you. 

    11 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

    What happened to an athlete doing 100% of his job. Haack is a great holder but mediocre punter. Tremaine is an amazing pass cover mike but struggles at run support. Everyone is a specialist now.

    Umm since when is Edmunds even good at pass coverage?  That’s just the crap they try to say because he’s fast, he gets looked off so easy it’s pathetic.

    12 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

    What happened to an athlete doing 100% of his job. Haack is a great holder but mediocre punter. Tremaine is an amazing pass cover mike but struggles at run support. Everyone is a specialist now.

    Umm since when is Edmunds even good at pass coverage?  That’s just the crap they try to say because he’s fast, he gets looked off so easy it’s pathetic.

  6. 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    Tyrod Taylor for a 3rd.

     

    But that is basically Glenn for a high 2nd round pick, low 1st. Tough to beat indeed.

    Trading Taylor was a mistake, period.  That was AWFUL roster management.

    6 minutes ago, Doc said:

     

    The Bills traded Cordy and #21 to the Bengals for #12 a month-and-a-half before the draft, in an attempt to go after Josh.  They were never planning on using both 1sts to get him/to #7, much less #12 (without getting a 2nd rounder in return).  So while I agree they had the draft capital to do it, I agree with david that I'm not sure Tampa moves out of #7 for #21 and #22.  And given they demanded both 2nd rounders, when one should have sufficed, means they needed to be forced to trade down even 5 spots.

     

    As for Edmunds, he was a college OLB who they envisioned as their Brian Urlacher.  It hasn't panned-out that way. 

    Still not sure why they won’t play Edmunds where he belongs.

  7. 5 hours ago, ganesh said:

    and this year is weird....there are only 7. 1000 yard RBs and some of them barely made it past the 1000 mark.

     

    Player Yards/TD

    Taylor. 1811/18

    Chubb 1259/8

    Mixon.  1205/13

    Harris.  1200/7

    Cook.   1159/6

    Gibson 1037/7

    Eliott.   1002/10

     

    Weird to not see familiar faces such as Barkley, Kamara,  Fournette, etc.

    Interesting stat for sure.  The obvious big factor is the rules make it so favorable to pass you have to.  

     

    The other major note is the majority or good running teams are going to a RB by committee.  Elliot barely broke 1k with the extra game, that’s mostly because Pollard took a lot of carries, from such a high paid back it’s nuts.  
     

    Also, I can’t recall a year ever before there have been so many injuries to RBs.  Henry would have had close to 2k, McCaffrey, all of Baltimore got hurt, most of the guys we are familiar with being on the list missed a bunch of games. 

  8. Ok, the list is debatable, I get that.  I personally feel Herbert is too high and I would take JA over Murray any day, but I can’t argue Rodgers, Brady, Burrow, Maholmes, being above JA as of today. The case can be made for the other 2, but my bias says JA is better.   Here’s the good part, we have the last guy on the list who you would feel good about as your QB right now (Russ is criminally low on here, even if he’s beat to hell this year)
     

    Carr is the next best option? Woof.   To show how bad the QB situation around the league is, Jalen Hurts is 14, yeah that’s right, he is ranked better than over HALF the starters in the league.. yikes. 
     

    For all the years spent wishing we had a QB that could even be debated as a top 10 QB, I’m not going to worry about one guy putting our guy at 7, especially given that 2 of the guys above him are two of the all time greats.   It’s really nice to not have to debate if Tannehill would have been the upgrade we needed to squeak into the playoffs.  Forget it, we have it really good.  Josh has been up and down this year, but as it’s been pointed out, even his down days are better than most guy’s good days. His good days are absolutely unbeatable. I sure would like to see him even that out to be more like a Rodgers level, but let’s not forget he’s still very young and still earning the big boy stripes.  The only QBs I have ever seen be so damn poised and polished at such a young age are Burrow and Maholmes.  They haven’t been perfect either, and both faced much better competition their whole lives.  As long as Josh keeps growing, he will be a first ballot HOF player, if he stops right where he is, he probably still will be. That’s a nice place to be.

    16 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

    I don't know how you're including Wilson that high after this season, he has not looked great.

    Wilson has been beat up this year, hard to hold an injury riddled season against a guy with such a great history.

  9. 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    My thing with Pittman coming out and I still feel this way is, what is he special at? 

     

    He does a lot of things well. He was a very safe pick, very high floor. Just not sure I see that special trait. With Lamb it is his ability to create with ball in hand, with Jefferson it is route running with Higgins it is contested catch ability.... Pittman is a good all rounder. I struggle a bit with where his special is. 

    I can see that argument, he reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald in that respect, but I will say he has not been targeted enough to have that type of impact.  Maybe a more fair comparison would be an Eric Moulds type.  The other thing you have to look at with his current production, who else on that team scares anyone?  He gets ALL the best corners and help, the only other threat is a bruising running back.  The Colts don’t throw a lot and don’t have/haven’t had a QB to really use him well.  
     

    Jefferson is an animal, really showing himself to be a top WR from day one, hard to believe he fell that deep in the draft.   Lamb is a physical freak, but I don’t see a great player, I see a Peerless Price.  Cooper gets the #1s, and they are 4 WR deep with real talent, plus a dangerous run game, he’s not getting lock down corners thrown at him.  Again, in space great, having to create separation from a real CB and make tough catches, he’s not special, at all. 
     

    Higgins, we’ll he should be a Bill, but he’s in a situation where he’s not getting all the attention and has a borderline great QB throwing him the rock.  He’s making the most of it.  I don’t think he’s a number 1 either, but he’s a real good player.  As long as he has a true 1 to play off of, he’s going to put up big numbers, make him THE guy and he will struggle. 
     

    Davis, also gets the luxury of not being THE guy, but he’s a lot like Pittman in the respect of being a really good all around player.  He has #1 traits, I’d like to see the Bills give him the full time starting job and let him play.  I’m not saying he’s going to be an All-Pro, but the guy can be a 1000 yard, 8TD guy and that’s damn good.

  10. 1 minute ago, Mango said:


    Where do you get that vibe? I’ve never gotten that feeling from Sanders.

     

    That said, I really don’t think the Bills make a signing like Sanders if 2/3 of our starting WR’s didn’t willfully risk missing 2 games. 

    He was playing the game, making sure he let the reporters know how elite Josh was from day one, he gets pissy when he’s not getting the ball, always has.   He’s never been a true #1 and always wants the ball like he is one.

    1 minute ago, billrooter said:

    Not just a number standpoint, Lamb is just alot more explosive IMO. Alot of his inconsistencies may be due to the fact that Dallas has so many options when you figure in Schultz emerging this year, Pollard out of the backfield, Cedric Wilson has been really good as well, in 2-3 games this year.

    Oh I agree Lamb is more physically gifted. I’ve been watching the Boys quite a bit this year and drafted Lamb to my Fantasy team, the fact is, he flat out goes brain dead a lot.  He’s dynamic as it gets in space, but I think he’d be a bust without all the weapons around him to take pressure off.

  11. 22 minutes ago, billrooter said:

      I'd take Lamb then Higgins everyday of the week over Pittman at this point, But they are still only two years in, but that's just my opinion I guess.

    From a raw number standpoint, yeah I see your point.   I think Pittman would be thriving with a real QB and a pass centered offense.  His game is really complete.  I see your case and I see why you would feel that way, it’s just my opinion he’s higher.

    6 minutes ago, Mango said:

    Jefferson looks like a starter.

     

    Understatement of the season. Jesus. 


    I think Sanders and Davis are much closer than many on the board are willing to admit. I do think age is catching up to Sanders and being the consistent number two is wearing him down unfortunately. The dude was slick early in the season. Some

    seem to have forgotten about that. Everybody was on the ES hype train early on and were wondering why Josh wasn’t looking his way. 

     

    That said, I think Sanders was an insurance policy with Davis and Beasley willing to risk 10 days. Because both were willing to miss 10 days and possibly 2 games, he got the live reps. 

    I was not on that train.  Since he got here, he’s been worried about his catches.  I didn’t like and still don’t like the signing. 

  12. Lamb is really over rated, he is horribly inconsistent.  I’d take:

     

    Jefferson

    Pittman

    Higgins

    Lamb

    Davis 

     

    Have got screwed over with the signing of Sanders.  He should be the 2 on this team all the time.  He’s been the best performer all year.  Of course Diggs is getting his, but he’s had a sub par year vs what he did last year.  Davis has BALLED OUT. 

  13. They screwed up big time, like Brock Oswieler big.  Their cap hit is $14M for next year, then $17M, 17M and 13M, FOR A RUNNING BACK, who hasn’t stayed healthy.

     

    if they trade him, the dead cap is 26M, so I really doubt this is the year they are going to do that.  He’s relatively affordable at $8M in 2022 and only 1M is guaranteed in 2023, so that part is doable for another team, but if you keep him you are paying essentially $12M a year for him after next year.. tough sell.

     

    If he could stay healthy he’s worth it, but that’s a huge if.

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  14. 7 minutes ago, cle23 said:

     

    By then, if contracts are exploding like you say, odds are Allen will ask for a new contract.  He isn't going to sit at $40M if average Joe's are getting $50M.

    This is why Josh’s deal was better than Maholmes’.  He’ll get to re set the market again, Maholmes will likely never get to.  Allen got paid almost as much AND gets to go again in his prime, Maholmes will be in the league for 13 years by the time he gets another shot at being a FA, not great. 

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  15. 9 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:


     

    Nope - want nothing to do with him myself.  He has talent, but can’t stay healthy and adds little to the backfield the majority of the time. 
     

    I would rather see Cordarrelle Patterson by far than Penny.  Patterson is on a 3 million contract - can play RB and WR and can run some of those gadget plays and he has been remarkably healthy across his career playing all 16 games most years and 15 games a couple of times.

     

    Let Penny get overpaid by some team for limited production and a guy that will miss between 5-8 games a season.

     

     

    Not sure you will get Patterson that cheap, or if he would want to give up what has essentially been a starting RB role to come here as a gadget guy, would love it if he would though.  He’s been intriguing his whole career, happy to see him finally putting it together. 

  16. 56 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

     

    I can see that happening Bobby.  A 3 year extension and take next year's cap down from $17M closer to $10M after they pay him a lot of cash in 

    his signing bonus.  I think it's a high possibility.  He will cost a little more over $20M per year after that.

    If anything, you want to give him a 5 year “extension”, you pay him a 30M signing bonus, this years salary gets reduced to 1 mill, the next goes to 5, next at 7, all guaranteed, then nothing guaranteed for years 4 and 5 of the deal, but the base can be crazy high, so he gets paid 43MM over 3 years, average of a 15.3M, but your cap hit is 7M, 11M, 13M, then you can restructure or post June 1 cut him and have 12 M dead cap, that can be spread over 2 years, or you work out his deal to be what it’s worth at that point.  Kick the can down the road, but don’t leave yourself too much dead cap that you can’t get around it. 
     

    Obviously, my numbers are hypothetical, but it’s the basic framework that matters.

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