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2 minutes ago, snafu said:
You and I are picking nits here, but (1) where did that quote come from? (2) what that report doesn't say is that the Senate trial COULD NOT begin before January 19 unless the Senate unanimously voted to change their own recess schedule that they had previously unanimously voted to set. Why does the article say that McConnell blocked anything if the entire Senate would have had to unanimously approve the proposal? (3) you don't ever say why the House didn't deliver the Article until January 25th -- the timing of that step completely wipes out anything else you say. The Senate didn't have any jurisdiction over the proceeding until that time.
Bro they WANTED to send them. Mitch CONTROLS if, and WHEN they vote
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59 minutes ago, snafu said:
Read that memo in the tweet I linked.
It says that on January 7, the Senate voted unanimously to set their calendar, and they would have had to vote unanimously to change the calendar. It seems that whatever McConnell said on the 13th had that in mind.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell pointedly did not rule out Wednesday that he might eventually vote to convict the now twice-impeached President Donald Trump, but he also blocked a quick Senate impeachment trial.
McConnell also issued a statement saying Congress and the government should spend the next week “completely focused on facilitating a safe inauguration and an orderly transfer of power” to Biden. He suggested Trump’s Senate trial would begin no earlier than Jan. 19 — in effect rejecting a drive by the chamber’s Democrats to begin the proceedings immediately so Trump could be ousted from office.
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7 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:
I'm listening to today's proceedings, and this thing is a slaughter. A straight slaughter. I'll be surprised if there's a conviction, but the managers are creaming the Trump and his senatorial followers in the court of public opinion.
It's REAL bad. If this was a roast it would be hilarious, but sadly it's real life.
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22 minutes ago, snafu said:
It isn't nearly as simple as you're making it out to be.
There was a Senate memo describing the calendar restrictions and procedural issues
And Schumer agreed on January 22 to a February proceeding, knowing that the House hadn't even delivered the Article to the Senate yet. There was no complaining at the time about the schedule. And even if there was, there wasn't much that could have or would have been done about it. This isn't simply a matter of McConnell being disingenuous. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/22/schumer-says-senate-will-receive-impeachment-article-on-monday-461305
This was from January 13th: WASHINGTON (AP) — Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Wednesday rejected a Democratic attempt to swiftly call the Senate into emergency session to hold an impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, all but assuring that those proceedings won’t occur until after Trump leaves office.
If you remember Pelosi was terrified of what he might do
14 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:Right. They negotiated this between the House and Senate. For Senators to now say it’s unconstitutional is disingenuous at best.
It's an outright lie. McConnell would not recall the Senate.
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3 hours ago, snafu said:
The Senate didn’t receive the Article of Impeachment until January 25. Here’s a NYT article from 1/19 that says Pelosi was holding the Article to build a case. The issue yesterday was whether the Senate should hold a trial after the President left office. It isn’t that stupid. The Senate couldn’t hear anything or do anything until the Article was put into their hands. There’s arguments to be made both ways. Seems that Justice Roberts might agree, or he at least thinks it is a bit closer case than you make it out to be. In any event, the vote is over and the trial is proceeding.
I think this has already been made clear, but McConnell said he would not take up the impeachment. That's why it wasn't sent over. They voted on it on the 13th. For him to say it was too late after he said he wasn't going to take it up is ridiculous. Also, we are ridiculously going to see Republicans who already blamed Trump(including McConnell) vote against what they already publicly said.
40 minutes ago, 716er said:Yesterday one of Trump's lawyers suggested criminal accountability is most appropriate now that Trump is out of office.
Today Georgia prosecutors opened up a criminal investigation into Trump's failed attempts to overturn Georgia's election.
This impeachment was worth it for that bit alone.
He also said he lost the election. He was awful.
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8 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
Let the process continue. The arguments yesterday as to constitutionality were overwhelming; the key thing being that the former president was in fact impeached during his term. The Senate then refused to start the trial during his term. You can't do that and then claim you can't continue because now he's a former president. That argument is absurd on its face.
What's absurd is that if they aren't that absurd, their nutbar constituents will vote them out. Really, that's not absurd, but rather frightful that people do not want facts and truths.
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12 hours ago, BillStime said:
This is pure gold. If you can't see how stupid this is, then well you're really stupid.
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Half the league has to cut salary. Many of the remaining teams don't have cash to give all these guys high salaries. I think you'll see A LOT of restructuring, as NFL players see what happened to NHL players on the UFA front. If they refuse to re-negotiate, they will be putting themselves in a risk pool, which is unlike any free agency we've ever seen. I could see Brown playing for $6M here.
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The Senate needs to understand it's not up to them to vote not guilty, because they believe it's unconstitutional. They are now JURORS like it or not. Their job is to listen to the merits of the case, and vote on them. Sure is going to be fun to hear what witnesses can do at a trial if ALLOWED to speak
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11 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:
Thanks.
It'll fall on deaf ears in here with most as it only matters to them, even though clearly proven erroneous, that it was Trump, and Trump only, who dallied with the Ukraine based on a single phone call.
That the Biden's frolicked for profit there doling out U.S. taxpayer dollars there for kickback of millions is inconsequential to them.
Hating Trump is their paramount for their eternity.
Why do people still say this when Congress hasn't sniffed a 20% approval rate in over a decade. People KNOW both sides are corrupt. I will admit that it is strange people still largely defend "their side" even though they know the whole think stinks. What's really, really strange is that some people think Trump drained a swamp that protects him fiercely. Explain why if he's an outsider cleaning up Washington, why do Republicans support every horrible move he makes. MTG(et al) would sacrifice her first born for him.
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33 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
The only person I can find who admits to believing it is a Russian communist.
I doubt many other do- the schematic seems to have been added later, probably as a joke, and people ran with it. I also doubt Qanon is too closely linked with communists.
It was 44% of Republicans in May. I can only assume that number has gone up. Vaccine rumours debunked: Microchips, 'altered DNA' and more - BBC News
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On 1/23/2021 at 3:39 PM, Big Blitz said:
Because he got Chuckie to agree to not end the Republic by killing the filibuster.
Then, Mitch will let the Ds make complete fools of themselves by trying to claim Trump led an actual insurrection. Mitch gets the month plus away from the event for reality to set in that everything is stupid (I've always said Libs make the egregious mistake of thinking that just because you see events happen in real time that opinon is also formed in that moment). A few Rs will vote to impeach the other 46 will not and life goes on.
But good luck to you all in your quest to not run against a guy in 2024 that you'd think should easily be beaten.
Wrong again. Chuck "Norris" Schumer did no such thing. He's not that dumb
On 1/25/2021 at 1:39 PM, Doc said:My statement was mostly about how Trump was beaten by a senile moron like Joe only because of CCP virus. Joe is a one-termer, at best. I don't see Trump having much support in 2024 as a candidate.
Trump has more power than anyone in the GOP by magnitudes of 10
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4 minutes ago, TSOL said:
Let's watch the situation unfold, shall we? You commented on the post with the link in the Trump's legacy three. I'm in no way here defending Trump, I'm here trying to keep up with information from both sides and make up my own mind. I lean conservative though,
I have zero issues with conservatives, and likely share many values. I am no longer going to put up with Trumpanzees being blatantly and willfully ignorant to facts.
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1 minute ago, TSOL said:
I don't wanna use "deep state" that term sounds stupid. I prefer the global political machine. The one that's grinding trump up into hamburger meat because he's been giving the world the double triple middle fingers for four years.
Don't worry though, all is back to normal now. Wars in the middle east, dependence on foreign energy, selling off America's farmland and middle class jobs. Iphones for immigrants, all that warm and fuzzy stuff that the American public loves so much
Oh and the bathrooms, gotta make sure that people's of all.... Preferences... have their appropriate bathrooms
Yup, gonna be 500k dead in a pandemic, economy hurting, but let's drag out the bathroom and scaravan crap already. Sweet. Would you mind giving me a link to that war you're talking about?? Is that you Don Jr???
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1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:
Ummm.....no.
I'm referring to the lib clown from NBC that is tweeting about listening to Biden's words that the words matter not the intent.
Very hypocritical given what I've heard the last 2 weeks.
I couldn't possibly care less about the safer at home all in this together pay out that wasn't my point.
Again, we all know the reason the checks aren't going out tomorrow. It's the Republicants. If they have to fix it by majority vote, then so be it.
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3 minutes ago, TSOL said:
Use some common sense there's no way trump called for 50,000 troops at the inauguration. You seem somewhat smart don't feign naivete to fit your narrative
So someone told the commander in chief to go screw himself, and put 50k troops out there???? If not then who??? I'm just going by chain of command, and I'm pretty sure the president is at the top. FWIW, it was a good decision. How many people were at the Capitol coup??? How stupid would he look if they DID show up again???? There was certainly chatter, and I hope we have learned our lesson not to ignore chatter anymore.
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3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Lolololol unless it's Trump telling the rally goers in DC to be peaceful.....then later to go home. No the intent they made up is what mattered then:
if the check don't go out the door, which they well might, who's fault is it?? The Democrats?????? If they forego the filibuster to get the checks out the door, you'll be mad then, too. Face it, you don't care about the checks, or what Biden said. You just want him to look bad.
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7 minutes ago, TSOL said:
I doubt this "deep state" was formed in the last four years. I used that term with hesitation, because it's a little tough to look down into that rabbit hole, but do you honestly believe there isn't things going on behind the curtain that would turn most of our hair white?
Do you believe that these powerful men who control the United States government are these pure and true humble public servents?
Do you think these powerful men are not subject to greed and corruption?
That's 100% not related to who was in charge of security of the Capital and inauguration. As has already been stated, it was Trump's pentagon that was worried about the "look" of the ntl guard being there. If you want good, in depth deep state conversation try Billschan
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33 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
This won't take long....back to the Middle East everyone!
In summary: Islamic terrorist bombing. President CONSIDERS possible military action. Con man's obnoxious kid retweets unsourced clown. Fish-mouthed man child tweets WERE AT WAR. Other clowns retweet the clown's retweet. Did I miss anything??
19 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:Biden just destroyed Trumps greatest legacy in the White House..... he removed Trumps Diet Coke button:
https://theweek.com/speedreads/962437/biden-removes-trumps-diet-coke-button-from-oval-office
Summary: Biden tweets: DIET COKE SUCKS! EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!! VERY BAD!!!! Twitter bans Biden. Democrats call it a disgrace to the 1st amendment, your guns are next. PS if you REALLY want to lose some weight get off your fat butt, and get your own damn can of pop.
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31 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Today he said the "lack" of a federal response led to the alleged deaths.
That the situation he inherited is worse then they imagined re the Covid response team.
Providing zero evidence as to how or why.
I'm sure these were lies for other Presidents but not Biden.
Read his 198 page plan. That will give you some idea what Trumpster fire could have been doing instead of inciting insurrections with lies, and playing golf.
7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:The Deep State.
The Trump appointed deep state? It doesn't get any dumber than this
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4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Exactly.....but.....re educate Trump voters or something
So we're all the fools, because they weren't good at insurrection? Tell me, why did they storm the capital? Am I allowed to say stormed, or would I be over-reacting? They went in there, because they wanted to stop Biden from being confirmed president. Their orange coup-laid guy told them the election was rigged, and they weren't going to let it happen. That's TEXTBOOK insurrection. Again, it's no ones but their own fault they sucked at it.
Also, Trumpster fire was watching with glee as, evidenced by his tweet(and as you will hear during the impeachment trial), and after seeing it didn't go well, he decided after much pressure from sane people to tell them that he loved them, they did a great job, but it's time to go home with the L. Michael Tracey, you sir are a crackhead. Nothing to see here folks, just a few casual out of towners wanting to see how a joint session of Congress works. This guy thinks he's Bill Murray talking to the gopher: I'm just a rabbit, not a plastic explosive or anything.
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5 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:
We hear what we want, right? Objective listening is something we can all work on I think.
She does get a lot of undue attention by the right. Not sure I have heard a brilliant idea out of her yet though.
If they think giving her attention is a good plan, they're really stupid. All the voters on the right already hate her. Why try to fix something that isn't broken, which just makes her more popular on the left.
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22 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:
Full day 1 of Biden and Republicans file articles of impeachment: https://breaking911.com/breaking-articles-of-impeachment-filed-against-president-joe-biden/
Marj is a real nutbar. My favorite part about this is the "on tape" part. Like he got caught speaking to an audience??? He had orders from the president to "quid pro Joe" as part of Obama's foreign policy. If she really honestly believes this, and it's not just political theater, then she's completely incompetent. Also, she might want to note that Hunter has already been investigated.
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10 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:
I am sure it's my right leaning brain skewing what I hear, but when AOC talks about liberating people who are already free I can help but think of Lenin and liberating the proletariat from the oppressive bourgeois. That's probably something I need to work on.
Anything AOC says is always heard by Republicans in the "GET OUT" voice that a possessed house uses. She could come up with the most brilliant idea, and they'd hear SOCIALIZM!
Trump Impeachment 2.0
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Exactly. It prevents them from committing high crimes, and then resigning. Trumps team attempted to counter that, but everyone knows there's zero appetite to convict a former president of criminal charges
It will still be a nothing burger to Hannity, Tucker, and Laura