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Josh Allen - week NINE report card
BillsBlue replied to rayray808's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Philly fans really are the worst
BillsBlue replied to Dan Darragh's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Holy crap that's awesome that you saw my response and remembered those fools!!! I was getting pretty pissed with them lol but I just kept thinking a night in jail isn't worth it bahaha I can handle normal behavior but cussing like that in front of kids gets me upset the kids aren't there to be taught to be degenerates by strangers imo lol I'll tell ya the Giants fans weren't much different when I went to that game this year, there was an old dude 2 rows back who was cursing Eli and the coaching staff and the defense to the high heavens and even his own kind were telling him to stop, the guy had families all around him some people are just rude and don't give a f. I digress anyhow GO BILLS -
Philly fans really are the worst
BillsBlue replied to Dan Darragh's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I was there too and I have to agree, I was 136 row 23 seats 6 and 7, I brought a good friend of mine who's an eagles fan so we could see our teams slug it out in the rain. There was a group of eagles fans in the row below us. They were a family of about 5 an uncle and the dad plus 3 of their sons(their kids seemed to be mid to late 20s) and every time we had a good play or scored they kept screaming buffalo effin sucks at the top of their lungs with children right below them and to their side? Needless to say myself and the other bills fans(young and very old) were getting fed up with it and a few buffalo fans got in their face because they were nudging into us on purpose and getting a kick out of it. I told the scum bags "keep it up and there's gonna be a fight today boys and they looked surprised so I told em "the Ralph takes a person or 2 every year you don't let it be you" and they shut up pretty quick because their eldest group member agreed with me and told them to stop. And then they had quarters and pennies thrown by the handful at them shortly thereafter ? Not by me might I add -
Thanks so much for the great reply!!! I agree wholeheartedly and yes it really made watched ng the loss bearable well that and weck n wings at the anchor bar and a couple stiff drinks ? Im glad the Fred Jackson story got read I felt like noone read it lmao. I understand my assessment hurts because lots of us want to contend now but we are missing at least an elite to good right tackle and the same at de and the same at wr. Those are mandatory to compete today in the NFL unless you've got Tommy or someone on his level or close to it.
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This is what I see for next year as well and it seems realistic. I was just stating what I see that needs to happen be it in 1 or 2 seasons from now to make us a perrenial playoff team in general. I hope I'm wrong about Edmunds and he gets better at being in the right place at the right time and same goes for Ford.
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Exactly what I'm trying to say in my op I don't think the sky is falling and we're right on track but these are the things I see that need tweaks/changes to put this team over the top. Heck we do what I listed and I think we can beat the best in the league, again I'm leaving looking to be an elite unit that can dominate weak opposition and get into a shoot out if need be with elite company. That's what it takes these days, this is what is needed to take this division next season and for years to come. Let's have another dynasty it's about time we did. Yes please like I said singletary needs a shot as a 3 down back for the bulk of the game and we need a flat pass/screen game with him to help free up everything else.
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I'm just stating what I see when I watch the games in person and on the TV, my opinion may be wrong it may be right but I'm totally sane and I'm calling out what I see as holding the team back. I think we're heading in the right direction and are a handful of above average players away from being real sb contenders. That's my take and I think Beane and co make it right this off-season and draft just my 2 cents. Yes there's a lot to be positive about and these are my only gripes with the roster and play calling etc. I could make a whole post about what I like and see as awesome but that stuff is obvious to everyone. I gave my spin on things and what seems to need Improvement, also I'm not counting out that hey maybe the line gels a bit more on o and d.
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I was so dejected after that game the only silver lining i saw was Allen and singletary as well as john brown, milano, kroft, and beasley as well as phillips and hey I'll throw shaq a bone too. This is why I think our line both o and d needs some above average players added, 2 starting caliber de's and new o tackles move ford and dawkins inside. We need to be able to blow d lines off the ball
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I agree completely and on the flip side when he does disguise and we run a nicely disguised fake and throw it from a run look with allen letting it rip on a 2 or 3 step drop someone seems to always come wide open and its a huge play for good yards. we can do it we just need to get to it haha, singletary as the 3 down back makes this possible amen i agree we havent had a real statement game yet this year, maybe the lines just need time to gel idk
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My thoughts exactly, I guess I'm thinking more along the lines of what it's going to take to become an upper echelon offense and an elite defense(we are very good right now but not Elite yet) but yes much more singletary and we need an open when not guy for the long ball just from watching the games vs last year allen seems tentative to put the ball right on the receiver and overthrows for a reason imo and honestly i feel like we need to work more of the 15-25 yeard throws into the game plan because he is imo a top 5 qb in the intermediate/short "deep" route area and his short route game is pretty darn good now, hes throwing with touch that he didnt show last year
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On the contrary I welcome this take too and agree with parts of it, while yes the line is improved I feel like Morse and Dawkins/Ford are the only keepers and that I'd move Ford and Dawkins inside . We need to be able to dominate the los like I said average doesn't cut it at ot imo and yes I think we've yet to play a complete game and that there's better to come . I don't think the sky is falling I just see opportunities to improve and become a truly dominant team in the league. Remember this the NFC is much more competitive than the AFC right now. We need to build to get all the way through the playoffs not just get there. Awesome response thanks
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Awesome work great research this is interesting.
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I'm glad someone gets it ? Exactlyyyyytt my drift I'm not saying to blow it up I'm saying put the icing on the cake, average players at any position are unnaceptable these days okay I take that back partially, average to below average starting left and right tackles are unnaceptable as well as at the other key positions like edge and #1 wr.
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We know Josh can hit on the deep ball he did it last year very well down the stretch, I don't know if the coaches just have him air it out and overthrow on purpose to cut down interceptions or if he doesn't trust his guy to come down with the ball but something's off and I don't buy that he can't hit those throws. Maybe it's the play calling and a mix of the online but we don't seem to manhandle anyone and we've been bad against the pass again I think Josh masks a lot of deficiencies between his own rushing and scrambling
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I agree the online play is better than last year by a good measure but not nearly as good as when wood was in the pivot with incognito next to him. Not even the same league. I see the online as slightly below average at this point. Morse is slightly above average and Ford is starting to look better the last couple games and will get his shot. But Dawkins needs to be upgraded and moved to gaurd or be depth and I would like Ford at guard as well and then get 2 above average tackles to be starters for next year depending on Ford's development. Re kroft he had the only 2 catches thrown his way for 32 yards. And yes bojo needs to be gone but I feel that our st coach needs to be jettisoned we should have fixed the issue before now.
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Hey brother that's fine by me that you feel that way, I cut deep here and I know people won't want to agree but it's true we need 3 new starting caliber olineman and 2 stud edge rushers plus a real #1 wide out and a better mlb and to move Edmunds to outside backer. It hurts I know but it's true and I'm the biggest Homer around Awesome take I feel the same thanks for the well thought out response
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Good evening folks I just figured I'd point out what seems to have stood out to me personally the most while being at the Giants and eagles games and watching the them all a few times a piece. Also I'll be adding a funny story at the end about running into Fred Jackson after the eagles game in the lot outside the training facility. 1- The offensive line looks downright bad/awful way too often. There's a reason Allen's fumbled so much this year and last year. He's being jailbroken and gang tackled way way too often. Dawkins needs to be cut this coming off season. Morse is average to slightly above average he's a keeper. We need to replace everyone on the line not named morse. I'm sorry to hurt feelings but these 4 other guys should not be starting in the NFL period. 2- Kroft looks like the answer at tight end he's looked stellar in the small sample that we saw this week. He knows how to get open. 3- Our special teams coordinator needs to be fired immediately. How do we have this many blocked kicks against us in a season. This is a catastrophe and teams are taking note and exploiting it with great success. It needs to be fixed now. 4- I hate to say it but we need to let Jerry Hughes and Trent go this off-season. Neither have been effective this season. Shaq looks better than either at this point he's flashed more speed and power than either of them and actually gets the qb down. I think Jordan Phillips is a stud and he's a nice rotation with Oliver, but we need a prime time edge rusher in the worst way heck we need 2 of them it's unnaceptable that Shaq is our best atm. 5-Play singletary he's got the bulk to be a 3 down back(he's short but a mjd type imo) and he would make our offense much more unpredictable. We've been here before with past rosters. If you don't have a 3 down back teams can key on pass or run and shut you down. Gore is solid but let singletary tire them out and then let Gore mop up coach has it backwards right now. 6- We desperately need an open when he's not type of #1 wide receiver for an offense with Josh Allen at qb to be successful. Josh is tentative to trust any of our deep ball targets this season and I don't blame him. None of them are built to go up and get it. Duke is a nice 4th wr option and red zone threat but we don't have someone who can stretch the field and also go up and get it, dukes too slow for that and browns too small and is a perfect #2 a peerless price type. Browns a precision route runner with great hands but he's not a jump ball/ bully the cb guy. We need someone who Allen is comfortable with throwing bombs to such as a Julio or Mike Evans type. Eli had Plax and Allen needs something along those lines to get to the next level with the deep ball(I'm talking bombs here folks). 7- Edmunds needs to replace Lorenzo and we need to get a better more instinctual mlb. I know this will hurt feelings but hey I see Edmunds lost a lot out there we need to let him use his athleticism and not his melon so often. We need a cj Mosely type for the mlb spot. That's my assessment take it for what it's worth haha roast me for whatever seems outlandish lol. Here's my quick story about Fred this past Sunday.... I saw Fred getting out of his Cadillac as my buddy and I left the game and walked to our lot as we walked by the field house. He had all blue from pants to hoodie and it was the standing buffalo on everything just like I was wearing haha. He was trying not to be seen but him and I locked eyes for a second(we were about 20 feet apart) and he could tell I recognized him. I say Fred!?!? He notions me over to him and we chatted for a minute or 2 and he was one of the most humble and kind players I've ever met(same as Fitz and jp as well as Byrd and George Wilson...Kyle all class acts...I met Fred before and got an autograph). He let me get a pic with him and then I said " Fred you're my father's favorite player of all time in the NFL and thanks for all the awesome memories, God bless you and your family." He responded by shaking my hand and then slapped my ass as if I just made a big play and walked off to the training center. Priceless- it made up for how crappy the game went ???? Cheer up everyone Beanes gonna put us over the top this off-season and draft, then we'll be real contenders. This season is the final test run and tune up, next year we trade the Corvette in on a Ferrari and take the league by storm. Cheers I'm going to bed.
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Josh Allen - week EIGHT report card
BillsBlue replied to rayray808's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I feel like both the right tackle and right gaurd and left gaurd and left tackle all need to be replaced unfortunately and Morse has looked very average , too many jail breaks on Allen and yes his deep ball has been atrocious this year and I can't understand why. If he's not being gang tackled and jail broke on he wouldn't be fumbling like this because people would be blocking their man instead of being spun in a circle and helping Allen off the ground etc. -
Josh Allen - week EIGHT report card
BillsBlue replied to rayray808's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I was there and honestly I blame the fumble on the play call we should've thrown the ball on that play, also I give Allen a solid B for the game he had no help from the line and the run game was weak. He threw 2 TDS in the worst of conditions and no picks. He continues to show his growth week in and week out. Trust me the weather was terrible. The only thing I want to see is more singletary than Gore and especially a nice short passing game developed with singletary. The kid is special and should be what our offense starts with and leans on when times get tough whether it be the pass or run with him. Also Tyler kroft looks like the real deal we need to play him more and throw to him more often. -
Bills 13, Eagles 31 postgame thread
BillsBlue replied to 78thealltimegreat's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I'll put it like this, crazy hold on John brown not called(drive stalled), tackling our punter(flag thrown then picked up drive stalled), after the whistle Josh allen inexplicable facemask and thrown to the ground by his face mask no call(drive stalled). The biggest issue I had was with the offensive line not playing for *****(how many false starts can we get smh), and also our d against the run is terrible. I was at the game the weather played a huge factor. On the plus side the most important thing is working out, Josh Allen is maturing nicely and motor needs more targets and more touches in general he's lightning in a bottle. Drops mic