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49 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:
I want OL in FA so we can go BPA. If we go BPA, Ed Oliver is the pick. I covet Ed Oliver and Quinnen Williams with our 1st pick, we need an elite interior DL.
If Quinnen is on the board when we pk Mcd will do cartwheels all the way to the podium and i will doing them in my house. Lol
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1 hour ago, Bakin said:
Let’s say we have pick 8 and both of these beasts are available (and for all us BPA analbeads they are tied in BPA value).
Who do you pick???
This would kill me.
Oliver has generational talent on the D line but Williams could be a decade long anchor with the ability to play all positions.
Struggling with this if I am given then choice.
Safer choice is Williams but bigger upside is Oliver.
What say you?
I say neither one. Devin White please. DW will be best player in this draft when its all said and done. Drafting White will allow Mcd to move Edmunds where he belongs at OLB.
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1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said:
"... put up 1600 on consistent basis," that's your qualification? Come on, man, there have only been 20 1600 yard seasons in the history of the NFL.
Megatron had two. Antonio Brown had two. Marvin Harrison and Torry Holt also. Those four are the only players to ever have more than one 1600 yard season, and nobody has had more than two.
And you want it done on a consistent basis? Jeez, dude, nobody has ever done it consistently.
Oh, and no, Hines Ward was absolutely not a raw young prospect when the Steelers won their most recent title. They won it in 2005, which was Ward's eighth season, when he was in his prime.
And while I hope you're right that we can find a Jennings, he had 1265 yards (4th in the league) and 12 TDs (T-2nd) and tallied 16.6 YPC (4th among guys with 50 or more catches) that year. It will not be easy. He was terrific and absolutely a #1.
I was talking bout Sanders and Brown as raw prospects the yr they faced Packers in Superbowl.
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1 hour ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:
Not saying you need true #1s but this argument is silly. Barring Seahawks and Patriots SBs, plenty of star WRs won or were a big contribution to at least getting there. You can point to any position group and name the best players that haven't won.
Julio Jones, Demarious Thomas, Anquan Boldin, Fitzgerald, Plaxico Burress, Alshon Jeffrey etc all had a huge impact. Arguably none of those teams would have won without those guys (Plax v Packers carried the Giants to the SB, Fitz like broke the record for WR yards in a playoff run.. he was Warner's sole offense, Bolding bailed out Flacco on many close games, Jeffrey is the king of catching Nick Foles bombs.. without him Foles doesn't have the games he had)
Brown has won a title btw but I get your point he wasn't a #1. Those Steelers just had 4 #1s on the roster.
I don't care how we assemble the corps I just want to get great WRs. If it's more a committee type like we see in Philly with Jeffrey and Agholor then sure.. call them #2s or 1a and 1b. you still need them to be GOOD. I'm fine with getting Foster legit competition and seeing how he stacks up. He's like a young Agholor right now and we can get a Jeffrey type to compliment him and challenge him.
So I agree to your point we don't need a do-it-all high priced #1. But it's not bad thing to go after that whatsoever. Maybe we don't need to go for an incumbent vet, but grab a lot of youth and see what sticks. We need someone opposite of Foster that's just as good if not better, and I'll be happy. That's 2 #2s if that's what you're vouching for, but I don't see the point other than we need more talent and more depth simultaneously. Talented WRs are not a bad thing whatsoever.
Some of these guys u meantioned are not what i will call elite #1 Wrs, DT yea he won a Superbowl and yes he was elite at that time. But Julio, Fitz, Bolden they never won as defacto #1s. Bolden was at the end of his career in Baltimore. Plax wasn't an elite guy he had good seasons but never put up 1600 yds on consistent basis. All teams have a #1 Wr but only a few are truly gm breaker elite status and most of them never won anything. The Steelers had a great Corps with Plax, Hines Ward and Sanders & Brown were young raw prospects at the time not #1 guys but great role players. Even when Rodgers won it with the Pack he did it with a good corps. We can find a Jennings type #1 . Im just basically saying i dont see McBeane going after a diva type guy that wants 10-12 targets again.
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I think this is a great topic and i was saying something like this on another post. The comparision is more like pre Mack. Now yes both teams had different stenghts and weaknesses but if had to compare our team with any previous one it would defintely be the Bears.
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3 minutes ago, H2o said:
There are a couple of guys I think could end up being #1's from the draft. The guy I really want is Hakeem Butler from Iowa St., who reminds me of AJ Green, but hasn't declared yet. Parris Campbell reminds me a bit of OBJ. I also really like AJ Brown from Ole Miss. There is really no one in FA to pursue that fits the mold and most of these guys can be had after a trade down into the latter parts of Round 1 or on day two.
I agree this draft can and will have #1 wrs but it will take time for these guys to grow into the stars they can be. There's no clear cut #1s from the first day in this draft.
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When studying what's available via the draft , free agency and potentially via trade at the Wr position . Iv'e come to the realization that the best way to fix and build our Wr core will be by adding multiple guys that fit as #2 or #3 Wrs in a NFL offense. There is no true #1 Wr available unless u want to give up major assets in return and i dont see McBeane selling our future for a old Wr like Aj Green on his last legs .
Matter of fact i believe building a core of 2s and 3s is better then having a true #1 franchise Wr with a solid cast around him. Just look at the facts how many titles does guys like Brown, OBJ , Evans, Aj or even Calvin have ? Zero is the answer .
It can be argued that having a target monster is bad for development of a young franchise QB . Because
Having a stud diva Wr will put unneccasary pressure on Allen to force feed him . This is usually great for fantasy football but in the real world it stunts the growth of QBs because they tend to focus in on there star instead of going threw there progressions in a timely matter. With that being said its better to have an overall talented core of guys that fit roles. U need your burners , possiesion type chain movers, red zone targets etc etc.
Not only does it help your young QB learn how to play his position the right way. It also helps with the way defenses approach stopping u. If u dont have a true target monster for defenses to try to stop and gm plan for then opposing DCs will try to project instead who will be your #1 wr on any givin week. This gives the offense the advantage in my opinion. Having 4 to 5 guys that can be feed on a moments notice puts alot of strain on opposing secondaries. Especially when u go 4 and 5 wr sets because most defenese get really thin at the #4 and #5 corner spots. This will open up some big time mismatches that offenses can exploit. This has bascially been the Pats model when they were winning superbowls in the early 2000s and the Steelers when Ben won his first 2 rings.
Last but not least not having a true #1 Wr is also good for your salary cap space as franchise #1s get paid big money in todays NFL. Well if u ask me its basically paying a guy big money to get locked up by opposing # 1 star corners . Those that play fantasy football know this all to well. With all this being said its on McBeane if they follow this model to bring in the right guys to fill the roles they need and to put this recipe to the test and if done right can be beneficial to long term winning in todays NFL.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
The Bears already had a pretty decent Oline that they had spent some time building and two talented and complimentary young running backs. They added two difference makers on defense in the 1st round and via trade and then signed a bucket load of good not great offensive weapons in FA. Essentially they had less surgery to do that the Bill do. We need that elite pass rusher, we also need those offensive weapons, we need our difference making MLB to get a lot better, we need young talent at the running back position and we need to do the offensive line transformation. We need to accomplish in one offseason what took the Bears 3! It's a big ask. I think the Bills can get back to 8-8, 9-7 territory next year. Playing the AFCN and NFCE at what feels like a decent time might help (though who knows what that looks like by next September). I doubt we are in double figure win territory in 2019. That feels more like a 2020 objective.
Were not far off as u think i believe the Bears were a 6-10 team last yr. Yes they had massive turnover this offseason . Which i fully expect the Bills to do.
Now there not completely the same situations but they are very similar. Lets not nitpick where the holes were on both teams. Im basically pointing out that they had a top teir D as well as we do. Also had raw but super talented rookie QBs with basically no weapons at the skill positions.
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9 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:
Trading away picks for proven vets sounds good. But that’s not exactly what they’ve shown they want.
Just my opinion but they’re building a nucleus of young talent who have not peaked yet. It seems to be more about getting players who can accept coaching and progress. I’m looking at them possibly signing a lot of “who is that” free agents as opposed to “yeah he was the #2 rated guy at his position”
i could see them breaking the bank for the offensive line in free agency but just my guess would be they’ll be targeting guys we don’t know that well in the hopes they come here and progress into starting caliber players. Sprinkle in hopefully some elite rookie level talent in the draft and they have a team.
I expect more building blocks this offseason and the real “all in” moves the following offseason.
Year 3 of Allen’s contract as long as he shows progress and is the guy is when you go all out to add as many big name players or contracts as possible.
Either way, with a lot of huge names to retire soon (Eli, Ben, rivers, Brady, brees) there is gonna be some huge shakeups the next few seasons and teams rosters. Let’s hope we’re built to be the next team to step into the elite level for 10 years
I see 3 moves for Wr
#1 via trade Marvin Jones for a 3 or a 4 .
#2 Free Agency . Maybe a Chris Conley or Kevin White type low salary guys with potential if givin more reps.
#3 Via Draft i expect a move up to late first rd for DK Metcalf or they just wait till our pk in the 2nd rd . There will be a plethora of guys available at that pt.
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I defintely see Beane making a few trades for skill position players. WRs, TEs, RBs all on the table. Beane will also attack free agency with non skill postions players mostly on offensive line where we will spend big on 2 maybe 3 players. The defense will defintely get some love too via free agency.
A couple possible trade candidates will be
#1 Wr Aj Green - I can see the Bengels moving in a new direction this offseason and the Bills will surely show major interest in Aj . Im not sure what it would take to get him but its defintely gonna cost more then Philly paid for Golden Tate which was a 3rd. Aj can cost multiple pks im thinking a 2 and a 4 can possibly get him here. To be honest i dont know if i would do that but McBeane has shown they dont care about age of skill position players as much as other teams do.
#2 Wr- Marvin Jones. MJ wont cost much 6.5 mil per yr in 2019 and 20 seasons. He'll be 29 when the season starts. Mj most likely if traded will command at least a 3rd rd pk at that type of cost controlled salary. 13 mil over 2yrs is dirt cheap in today NFL. As a player MJ fits what Beane looks for in a wr he's a deep threat with big time catch radius. If Marvin becomes available the Bills will defintely take a chance on him.
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12 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:
talent around Trubisky got a lot better Go look at what he is asked to do Its all quick barely above the los passing with one or two deep looks per game
Yea they definetly upgraded his weapons basically getting him all new Wrs and TEs. Like i said im not very impressed with Trubisky but he has gotten better and his team has defintely gotten better around him.
The Bills seem to be on the same trajectory as the Bears in 2017 as far as the teams go. The difference is obviously the Mack trade made the difference as the Bears easily went from a team that was likely to win 9, 10 gms to a team that can win 12. With that being said once we add some weapons this offseason i expect the Bills to win 10 gms and challenge for a playoffs spot in 2019. If not McBeane needs to be released of there positions.
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1 hour ago, teef said:
They sure do. I can’t blame anyone for a lack of patience at this point. The trick is with qbs we have to be extra patient. I certainly don’t expect josh to be a highly polish product next year, but there needs to be visual/measurable improvements.
He needs to at the very least take a Trubisky type leap. Now im not a big fan of Mitch but he did get better in his 2nd season. Im expecting this from Allen. Not a Mahomes type leap or Goff a Trubisky that should be the goal.
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4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I agree and the KB point was just one minimal example of how it’s unfair to look at his season stats to identify growth. I think everyone could and should agree that Josh is a better QB now than he was before he got hurt, and that goes beyond that stat sheet like you said.
And yeah, I agree with you that Jets are a threat, but I think we have a better foundation over all as we have a playoff ready Defense and IMHO a better coaching staff and GM. Both teams though have the most importance development piece (young promising QB) and a ton of cap room. So they certainly are a team with lots of upside right now too, but I feel more confident in our ability to turn the corner than I do in theirs.
Really it aint gonna matter because its basically Darnold vs Allen . So far i hate to say it but Darnold looking like the better passer of the 2 by far.
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1 hour ago, 17years&waiting said:
I'd be curious how many of these "contested" passes are the WR's not making plays on the ball, and are not necessarily Allen's fault. It's hard to tell how they decide whether or not the pass was the QB's fault, but in my mind, I haven't seen that many passes that are Allen's fault.
Take for instance the Foster play in the sun against the Patriots: how does that count for PFF? It's technically not a drop, because I don't think Foster touched it, but it was also maybe the best deep pass I've seen Allen throw this year. Does it count as "inaccurate" in this rating system?
its counted as a completion in adjusted completion percentage
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16 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:
What happens next season if they go 7-9 or even 8-8? Beane stays and McDermott goes?
Something tells me these guys are tied at the hip. It irks the hell out of me that two guys who've never done the job have more job security than GM's/Coaches in the league who've achieved serious success. I actually like McDermott more than I like Beane. Be a damn shame if McDermott were to get the ax because of Beane's blunders.
Only in Buffalo is this acceptable.
There defintely tied at the hip , Beane doesnt do anything without Mcd giving approval.
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They were saying the same thing about Adam Gase in Miami after they got the bounces and got into the playoffs in 2016. Look what thats been like the last 2 yrs. U cant consistently win with turnovers and fgs in todays NFL . Mcd is not the answer .
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On 12/24/2018 at 10:56 PM, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
I guess I forgot about the year those coaches took us to the playoffs in their first season.
Mcd taking us to the playoffs last yr is equivalent to a homeless man finding a dollar playing the cash 3 winning some money and getting himself some booze, hookers and dirty hotel to sleep in. Lool. It was a fluke. The team was lucky last yr not good.
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On 12/24/2018 at 7:54 PM, RyanC883 said:
I'd say Allen is having the 2nd best season (behind Mayfield). And I did not want him before the draft. Pleasantly surprised with his decision making improvement during the season. Allen has the worst supporting cast of any of these guys. Rosen has a freaking HOF WR and great RB who should be in his prime. Jackson has a fantastic D that makes plays, and a good stable of RB's and a decent WR cast, and two good TE's. Allen has no TE or RB help.
I say its a debatable 3rd for Allen , Mayfield and Darnold have reached higher ceilings defintely . Please stop with the no help excuse Darnold has really nothing to work with in Ny also.
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10 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
I mentioned Cam Newton specifically because Brandon Beane has referenced Cam Newton by name when asked about what he looks for in a Franchise Quarterback, so he thinks he’s one.
When asked why Josh Allen after the draft he weaved in Cam Newton’s name into Allen’s running ability from designed plays.
We’ve seen the multitude of ex-Panthers they’ve brought in. I think that’s a big reason Allen is here. He reminds them of Cam Newton, and the “Panther model” got both McD and Beane their highest level of achievement to date in the sport.
Regardless, this regime has everything they want now. They didn’t settle for the QB they took, they got the man they ranked #1 overall. There should be no excuses now about culture or cap or scheme. It’s McDermott’s culture, it’s his style of play, he has time to review all the film.
2019 should bring real progress in the win column.
I agree with what your saying but i hate the buy some other teams philosophy of building because it worked in Carolina. I cant stand that bandcamp mentality. It never works . Teams that build champions build it in there own image. Im rooting hard for Allen and i believe he has the potential to be great but McBeane will ruin him if they want to use him like Cam. Cam is not even 8yrs into his career and already looks worn down from all the hits he's taken in his career. This kid Allen has potential for more and needs the right guys to develop him. I hope McBeane realizes this and develop Allen to be a pocket passer that sometimes only when absolutly neccessary runs. These QB draw plays are amateur and is gonna get our young QB injured at some pt hopefully it wont be something that ruins his career.
9 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:He was pretty dominant when they had some skill position players and his body was right. Olsen is always broke. Steve Smith got old retired Benjamin got fat/traded. They have Mccaffrey who is a stud. I'm not sure Newton can be a top 10 qb without using his body to run Big part of his game Read option and the run fake to set up downfield shots
He had 1 great Mvp type yr. He caught lightning in a bottle . Even Jay Cutler put up great numbers a few times doesn't mean he's elite. Cam is 2nd teir and thats not bad u can win with him but he's not the carry a team on his bk QB .
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14 hours ago, zow2 said:
C.J. Anderson had a helluva day filling in for Gurley yesterday.
Seems like the Carolina connection, McBeane, could’ve snagged him between Nov. 12 -Dec. 4. Then again in mid December when he was on the streets. The guy is a bull and would’ve helped the sorry running game here.
He's not a bandcamp gold card toting member thats why.
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8 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
If you love believing in the process then you should be excited.
McDermott's been setting his culture here for 2 years now.
Beane has hand selected the next Cam Newton.
They've eaten the cap and should be free to rock.
McDermott can study the tape all offseason, review how the NFL is scoring 30+ ppg routinely.
It should be all upside from here.
Does anyone here really respect Cam Newton as an elite franchise QB. I think he's a teir 2 QB maybe from 11-15 best in league.
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6 hours ago, papazoid said:
Laremy Tunsil OT Miami (1st)
Shaq Mason G New England (2nd)
Isaiah Wynn OT New England (2nd)
Sony Michel RB New England (2nd)
James Devlin FB New England (3rd)
Naw man the Dev will get u a couple firsts. Lol
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16 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
He was awful today.
Worst player on the field.
He's been poor most of the season and I think today was on par with or as bad as he's been all season.
Critically poor instincts........big target who can't get off blocks.........not strong or physical enough.......poor leverage........doesn't move well thru traffic........doesn't make plays in a scheme where he should be making a ton of them.
He's young........yeah........but this isn't the QB position.......good MLB's are almost without exception tremendous right out of the gate.
Don't be surprised if he's at OLB next season folks.
He's definetly playing out of position. He needs to be on outside for sure. Plus he needs to add bulk and strength.
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26 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:
Lol.
Khalil Mack is exceptional. Name an offensive player on the Jets, Dolphins, or Pats that would get anything more than a 4th. Darnold doesn't count.
I get a grand total of zero.
Sony Micheal. Gronk will at least fetch a 3rd.
Any insight/opinions on Hakeem Butler last night?
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I dont know much about this kid but if so talented why the 3rd rd grade?