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Maybe Doug was fired and Rex taking over both things. Which is why Bills will be his last gig.

Maybe re-signed Dareus?

Gay was 50% against Carolina. He makes 550K through 2017. I say cut Carpenter, keep 1 kicker if we're only going to make 50%.

He's already missed 3 in preseason (plus an extra point). These weren't long FG's either. Try someone else out or see if our kickoff specialist can be just as inconsistent. We still don't have a sure fire solution for QB, so our kicker has got to be money. If he's not we can save 2.5 million there.

Actually we're both right. If there is offset language in the contract, which most have then if a player with guaranteed money signs elsewhere his salary and cap hit would be reduced by the amount paid by the other team. Cut Manuel Cap savings: Between $500,000 and $1.2 million Dead money: $1.2 million in 2015, and at least $1.2 million in 2016) From reports when he signed, it is assumed that Manuel's rookie contract contains offset language for his guaranteed money, hence the range of potential cap savings. Assuming Manuel is signed by another team, whatever salary that team pays him will be offset from the guaranteed money the Bills are scheduled to pay Manuel this year (just over $1.2 million). If Manuel is still in the league in 2016, the same result will follow again, with the Bills' guarantee to pay Manuel $1.6 million reduced by whatever salary he receives from another team. The remaining value of Manuel's prorated signing bonus would be split in equal $1.2 million dead money hits in 2015 and 2016.

Again, way to not understand. If he is signed by another team, the cap hit is reduced by any amount they sign him to. Otherwise players would try to get cut and double dip if they were on guaranteed contracts. It's part of the CBA. You're wrong also and you owe me an apology.

How is Davis not in the top 7. He was a better backup running back than Jackson.

You're wrong. If someone picks him up, there are certain minimums at least they have to pay. Anything Ej is paid by another team, if he is cut, is reduced from the Bills cap and out lay. So if EJ is cut and someone pays him 2M a year then the Bills are off the hook for that 2m.

2 buck chuck

$0 M 0 years $0 guarentee Ralph is cheap.

They didn't win, so bad mistake on their part.

When did Joe play in a Super Bowl?

And Ej just reminds me of Joe Pisarcik.

If Cassel is starting it's going to be a lot of very boring, low scoring games. Got that now?

That last statement scares me, as I knew that we were in for a lot of 9-6 games if he started (assuming Carpenter can learn to kick FG's).

You're the troll. You've bashed everyone but EJ and get upset that EJ didn't get the starting nod. Me not a fan of Cassel or EJ, actually thought the best QB won the job. As far as backups go, neither Cassel nor EJ is a good fit and would force changes to the offense. More protection for EJ and shorter/quicker routes for Cassel. Either way it would allow teams to stack the box more. I am a fan of getting rid of both of them as they both have too much down side and getting someone else as backup. They are both too expensive as backup options. It's also possible the Bills are saying this to drive up the trade requests on EJ or Cassel.

Actually the column has Ian Rapoport info, which some here linked to but only posted the part about Cassel getting cut. "Following the news that Taylor would be the starting quarterback, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported that either EJ Manuel or Matt Cassel would be released following the decision. Manuel has some momentum after throwing for 170 yards and two touchdowns against the Pittsburgh Steelers, but Rapoport believes the Bill might be ready to move on from the former first-round pick instead."

How is this any different then the link that started this page. Oh wait, I know. The one I linked to has advertisers and isn't some 16 year old tweeting,

I don't know. My point was though that the cost difference is minimal and 1.35 million will not save Dareus. It also is meant to imply that either could be on the cut/trade block and the Bills have options. Personally, I am not sold on either of the guys and wouldn't be shocked to see both gone and another QB brought in to back up Taylor. Someone who has similar style/ability.

That's fair. But you have to look at 2016 differently. If Simms progresses and TT does well. then maybe that's the 2016 option with a drafted rookie to PS. Same costs, and now you also freed up the 2016 money to re-sign TT.

http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/59653/20150831/buffalo-bills-rumors-ej-manuel-released-tyrod-taylor-named-starter-matt-cassel-backup-lesean-mccoy-karlos-williams-boobie-dixon-replace-fred-jackson.htm Rumor here is that EJ gets cut?

Actually yes, those are his numbers.

And looking at EJ's numbers or TT's from 4 years ago isn't fair either. EJ said he gained 8-10 pounds in off season. You think he is even close to his numbers from the combine? Cassel also doesn't get sacked as much, which means he probably is more agile and with awareness less likely to get hurt and avoid the negative yards.

So EJ if he pans out, where ever that may be, could acutally be on a team for 3 more years?

Cassel 40 yard = 4.78 vertical - 34 Broad = 115" 3 cone = 7.2 20 yard = 4.06 On the face of it, looks like Cassel is better from an agility standpoint than EJ and in fact on 20 faster than TT.