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Ho man David had a chance to rip a big one there. Damn.

Happy for Cook. Prior years that would've been a Josh keep or a bigger back inside the 10.

4th and 1 on our own 35 up three TDs. We don't ***** care. ***** you Hawks.

I want to get mad at the refs for ruining this game but truth is both teams are so sloppy. What are these zebras supposed to do?

Number 0, Keon Coleman, kicking too much ass.

Toohill was tootall on that INT

Ok so before someone tries to claim this is all somehow Amari's impact playing through doubles and getting everyone open, he's hardly been involved. Shakir, Kincaid, Colemen, and Cook are still our top guys.

There you go. Josh giveth, Josh taketh away, Josh giveth again.

Josh wants that one back

Or we use the 4th down play on 3rd down. Nice play call

I'd go for it here if we don't get it

Just a comedy of errors out there

Wow twice in row they stub their toe

Josh was due. That was a bad throw. Hold em and move on.

At least Hardy could cover people but supposedly we have too many of those players

Same ol Bills got bailed out by a bad snap. Need to keep scoring points.

Another ST mistake. Why are you catching that?

I think we went 150 yards on that drive

OMG Keon

We're very weak interior Dline minus Carter. So important we get out to early leads next few weeks. Hopefully, Daquan and Ed are up for playing lots and lots.

This goes back to my complaint over the summer that we really only had four NFL-quality DT on the roster for camp. No one wanted to hear about that because receiver, receiver, receiver,...but here we are with only three left for the toughest part of our schedule. I guess the idea is Smoot or Rousseau will be playing inside on 3rd downs??

I'm not "lend(ing) credence" to the idea that "teams couldn't wait to get rid of him." I never said anything close to that. I said Amari wasn't a star player which made him easier to trade away, or put another way, the fact that he was traded twice in his prime is evidence that he wasn't a true star. And yeah, Lofton wasn't a star anymore when he was traded to the Bills. He was coming off two very pedestrian seasons with the Raiders, and IIRC his first year here wasn't anything to write home about either. So three non-star/prime seasons in a row before he found his place in the k-gun in his mid-30s. Packers Lofton was a star. Comparing Amari with Randy Moss seems like a stretch in any sense, but it's especially dubious given Moss got traded for being a malcontent whereas Cooper has always been a good solider despite having occasional performance issues (e.g. production/drop issues at the end of both Raiders and Browns tenures). We do agree about Cooper's presence helping everyone else in the offense though per your last paragraph.

Yes, Lofton and Moss were superstars, but Lofton wasn't traded in his prime and Moss was a malcontent. Not the same situations. I'd say your expectations are a little high. If Amari can make another pro bowl here as Lofton did, that would be amazing. I'm not expecting that. Kincaid is the "star" of this receiving group, but we lacked balance with Keon's inexperience and whatever we were getting from Mack/MVS/Samuel. Amari provides balance. I think what we're going to see is exactly what was advertized in camp: everyone eats. Kincaid, Shakir, Cook, and Keon's receiving production will improve as a result because the defense now has to guard all areas of the field.

I agree that normally five pro bowls would indicate that a player is a star. His draft position is also evidence of that. But I never felt like he was top 5 at his position, maybe in terms of production but not impact. You might accuse me of splitting hairs here, but I always felt like he topped out at really good instead of great, and again - to OP's point - he got traded twice in his prime. Given Amari hasn't had any major injuries and is the furthest thing from a malcontent, this is an inconvenient fact for the "Amari was GREAT" camp. In any event, he's not as good as he was anymore, and we don't need him to be that. We just need a professional that's competent who can beat one on one coverage on the outside and knows how to create space for teammates. He can still do those things and so he's still valuable to us.

Oakland traded him because his production fell off a cliff and he was struggling with drops. Dallas traded him because he was expensive and they needed cap relief. Amari is a good but not great receiver. He isn't a star, which means he's the kind of player that teams want and teams are willing to get rid of.