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For sure, very accurate description

I think of all sports, it would be the most difficult to implement this plan in football. You have a roster of 50+, a practice squad, a coach for every position, assistant coaches at every position, twenty people on the cameras, sound men, photographers, color commentaries, statisticians, etc, etc. I really can’t even fathom how many people each game would need. Probably around 500? There isn’t a bubble big enough for 32 NFL teams to remain in. This too, if the NFL tried to put in any penalties with teeth the NFLPA would never approve it.

The problem is, you can’t say that for sure. I know you can’t say that for sure because every researcher doesn’t even know. They simply do not know why some people have a big reaction and others don’t. And they don’t know how to prevent it. Basically, at this point it’s up to your body to determine how it reacts to COVID. Some people have a mild reaction and some have a reaction requiring hospitalization. Health and age are factors for sure, but young and healthy people can also get severe cases. It’s a lot more rare than the elderly, but it happens. So what happens when one NFL player gets a severe case, gets put on a ventilator, and dies? Is that a chance worth taking? These guys travel too much and there are too many local and out of state people that travel between broadcasters, crew, officials, players. It might just be too much to control.

If there is no NFL season, what does that do for High School Football? It actually seems more likely that NY can have high school sports than pro sports this year. New York’s cases remain in check and on the decline. Phase 4 is approaching and should well be here before a lot of high schools would even start practicing. I imagine there would be a bit of an uptick in media coverage and local interest if it is the only football around in the fall. Is that really even a season worth playing though? So we want to see Josh Allen get pummeled because 4/5 of his starting line were UDFA signed that week?

From what I have seen researchers don’t even know what causes a good outcome vs a bad outcome yet. Your odds are significantly better if you are younger and without a pre-existing condition. But there is always the chance something in your body reacts the complete wrong way with the virus and you get a bad case. Problem is, no one knows until it actually happens. They aren’t able to tell people “you’ll get a bad case of COVID if you get it”. Wouldn’t that be nice if they could figure that out.

Maybe if, in our sweetest voice, we tell their lungs everything will be ok, they won’t be scared anymore?

My exact thoughts on Cuomo. Never voted for him, despise most of his politics, thinks he only cares about the city. Even with all my previous hatred for the man, I always try to have an open mind. He has won me over during the past few months. Likely enough to have my vote in the next election. For my money, New York is the current beacon of light out of all the states. When it comes to Covid, I don’t see many states that are decently populated and are in a better position than NY. That’s not just blind luck. If we lived in Florida or Texas right now we might be staring at a mountain of new cases the likes of which NY hasn’t seen since the beginning.

I don’t know if you are seeing the rest of the country continue to fall apart, but I would argue Cuomo showed he absolutely knew how to handle this thing. Cuomo made unpopular choices in regards to COVID right from the beginning. The pain in the early stages are now proving to be worth it. New York has been on the steady decline and is slowly re-opening everything. Compare that to Florida, Texas, and Arizona who are all at risk of another shut down due to huge spikes in cases. Unless you think it is all just luck that New York was able to come out of COVID? If nothing was done those super high cases we were witnessing in the beginning would have continued to snowball out of control.

It is way, way too early to determine immunity. That study you cited only had 37 participants and it was out of China. Don’t trust anything out of China. These are the guys who knew about the virus since September, possibly earlier, and tried to hide it for months. I also wouldn’t trust a study of 37 people when there have been millions of coronavirus cases. Other similar viruses such as SARS and MERS have 1-3 years of immunity. There’s no reason to think COVID is going to be the virus that breaks the rules of previous viruses. In addition, the study itself states the people who lose the antibodies that quickly are asymptomatic people. Symptomatic cases carry immunity longer, but the study conveniently leaves out their exact time frame. However, if you truly believe that study and immunity is only 2-3 months, then what do you think that means for a vaccine? It would mean the possibility of an effective one are near zero. No one is going to be going to their doctor every 2 months for a Covid booster. It’s possible. First confirmed case in China was in middle of November, but speculation is around September was their first unconfirmed cases. They will never confirm that of course. Their official government records show November. I had the same thing in December but I chalked it up to just a bad flu season. Also, if you are in the Buffalo area; we have a pretty big Asian population. Between Canadian shoppers and tourists and UB’s Asian population it’s possible we were one of the first areas to have it.

I was also thinking this when I heard Norman’s comments. Not only is it the right thing to do, it would help the city grow culturally and economically.

Well, if Jon Gruden loves him thats enough for me. Gruden only loves 99% of the QB’s to enter the league in the past ten years.

Love The Athletic. Great that they took value and original draft capital into consideration. Instead of ranking the Bills as a loser because they had no first round pick they took the capital values into consideration. There’s a reason they actually are worth the subscription fee. They have well thought out articles that are actually worth reading.

At least it’s about as close as it could be. Other than being in Buffalo of course. Which brings me to my next point, of Cleveland gets a draft I would have to think it’s at least possible in Buffalo.

If asymptomatic can create long term effects that’s a bit scary. But I suppose no one will really know because it hasn’t been around long enough to have those long term effects.

I long for the days of Bills talk again good sir. I’m just not as worried as most I suppose. I’m going to sound like Hap here, but do you have the source of those side effects. I’ll admit I didn’t search too hard. But I only saw possible long term side effects of cases that were put on a vent.

I do have a serious question for you though. Since you seem well informed of the subject at hand. There is something that I can’t piece together. The USS Roosevelt. 5,000 or so sailors on board with absolutely no chance of social distancing. Your eating with hundreds, passing hundreds daily, sleeping with hundreds, showering. You get the picture. How did they only have 800 confirmed cases, for a 16% infection rate. I haven’t been able to make heads or tails of that. Annnddd so you see it’s not made up https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3018331001

I have no source. I am a not a rocket scientist, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night.

At risk people are more prevalent. Because we are a country of obesity and the pre-existing conditions that’s go along with it. We are a nation that eats fats and doesn’t exercise. We also have a third rate healthcare system with first rate funding. You want to see a problem completely of its own doing? Welcome to reality. I have no source and live by the “half of all statistics are made up” mantra. I just usually happen to fall into that half.

The at risk population is more than welcome to continue to lock down. I’ll make sure not to visit any of them while I might be a carrier. And I have no source.

The could maybe possibly is putting words in my mouth. It is very likely to exist in the spring-fall. Just can’t say with 100% certainty because nothing is ever certain. To your second point, I haven’t cared all along. Other than the imposing restrictions that the government is putting in place. I have the upmost faith in my body to fight off a virus with a true mortality rate far lower than that reported. Once antibody tests are available to every American you will likely see 36-72 million infected. Do the math on that with 50,000 deaths and you see the true mortality rate. Disclaimer: The facts presented in this post are not backed up by anything and are a figment if what I believe may someday come true. Yeah... I have no source

Can you elaborate a little bit? If you are speaking in regards to Covid I think that possibility is absolutely zero. You likely get a vaccine next year. At that point no one cares about this anymore. Say the vaccine fails, antibody tests have already revealed 15-20% of the population is likely infected. That makes your death rate .00005. So once that first vaccine fails, again, no one really cares anymore. In relative life terms, this won’t last very long. It just seems that way while living through it.

It could just be that Brady is an awkward guy. Which, from everything I’ve seen, is completely possible.

The simple answer to this is “not yet”. The guy is 36, not everyone can be Brady and play at a high level until they are 42. Father Time is not on Rodgers side. How soon people forget that it actually used to be a thing to draft a QB and let him sit and learn as a rookie. Love will be put in every situation to succeed. You aren’t precluded from preparing for the future just because you have an aging QB and don’t want to hurt his feelings.

I feel the worst case scenario we are looking at is a season delay. Depends on when training camps and preseason can kick off. I believe there is absolutely no way we see a season with fans in the stands though. While not easy, it’s easier to control the couple hundred players, coaches, trainers, and broadcast team members than it is to control fans. There’s also always the option of the NFL playing in neutral sites. Without fans it doesn’t matter where they play, so if a state doesn’t want to allow the NFL to play there that’s ok. I’m sure Texas would allow the entire season to be played in their two stadiums if it came to that. Also of note, the Alamodome in downtown San Antonio could be used as a third site. It has all the logistics in place.

That’s why I only mentioned RB’s being drafted as high as Spiller as being pretty much done. I only mentioned drafting a CB high as being a hallmark of a losing franchise.