JGMcD2
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1 hour ago, uticaclub said:
The expectation for the Bills should be a championship, but the realistic expectation is a division championship and a second-round exit, as it has been in previous years. I believe it is more likely that Josh Allen will force a trade after 2025 instead of accepting a contract extension here. Even though he claims to love Buffalo, his ultimate goal is to win a championship. There is a reason why Allen did not take the full restructure, so that too much money wasn't pushed to the future, and he could potentially leave before his contract is up.
It's funny that you're commenting on things with such a negative slant while you have apparently zero idea as to how anything actually works.
"Allen did not take the full restructure." Sir, Josh Allen doesn't have to agree to anything when it comes to a restructure. A restructure is taking the player's base salary and converting it to a signing bonus. It doesn't push any money down the road for Josh. He actually gets the money upfront in the form of a signing bonus, but the cap hit is spread evenly over the remainder of his contract.
It's a lever that Brandon Beane pulls... not Josh Allen. He only restructured for what he needed, in order to avoid running up the cap hit in future seasons.
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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I largely agree. While I think Van Demark is very likely to make it I do think Grable has a chance to dislodge him. They are similar player in terms of athletic profile. Vandy showed last pre-season that is very good at LT, but couldn't really get it at right tackle. If Grable can do both I think there is a world where they decide to go with him and a vet (I'm thinking specifically Collins in this space tbh). Equally given Beane mentioned Clapp specifically when asked about center the other day I wonder if he has a better shot in the building than we think.
I'd definitely like the final 9 to be your predicted 8 and Grable. But will be interesting to see how it plays out. If they are all healthy can Beane maybe swing one of his trade for a day 3 pick tricks?
I would also prefer that Grable takes the 9th spot. In my mind the only way La'el Collins should make the team is if he dramatically outperforms Van Demark or Grable. Otherwise, go with the guys who are younger, cheaper and controlled longer.
I do recall the mention of Will Clapp, but I didn't take that as Beane alluding to a better chance of making the roster than we think. It felt more like him saying they didn't feel any pressure to take a C as insurance for McGovern because they had already brought Clapp in. Same thing here for me, go with Van Pran-Granger (VPG) and take your chances with trying to put Clapp on the practice squad if you want the insurance after roster cut downs.
For the record, I'm hopeful that VPG is able to play well enough at C to allow McGovern to move back to LG. I'll feel so much better about our offensive line if we're just replacing the C position and the rest is status quo.
Dawkins (2027) - McGovern (2025) - Van Pran-Granger (2027) - Torrence (2026) - Brown (2024)
Van Demark (2025) - Edwards (2025) - Anderson (2025) - Grable (2027)
There's a chance this could be your OL room for 2024 and 2025 (possibly longer). Although I'm still somewhat skeptical we pursue an extension with Brown until after the season.
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12 minutes ago, eball said:
Nice breakdown. Note that the Bills can put Clayton on the PS and he won’t count against the limit because of the international player development program.
I am rooting for Keaton Bills to make this team. It’s just serendipitous to think of a guy wearing “Bills” on the back of a Bills jersey.
Yes, good note on Clayton. 16 PS spots and he’d be the “17th” due to the IPP exemption.
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5 hours ago, Beck Water said:
Oh, wow, I disagree - After cutting Morse and moving McGovern to center and backup David Edwards to G, I thought we were thin on IOL
And then of course there was Ryan Van Demark as the swing tackle
The draftees were late rounders, so I guess the UDFA feel they can compete?
Explaining in a little more detail where my mind was when I said that...
We carried 9 OL on the 53 last year:
- Dawkins, Dion
- Brown, Spencer
- Torrence, O'Cyrus
- McGovern, Connor
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Bates, Ryan - Edwards, David
- Anderson, Alec
- Van Demark, Ryan
This year 7/9 OL are returning:
Locks (5)
- Dawkins, Dion
- Brown, Spencer
- Torrence, O'Cyrus
- McGovern, Connor
- Edwards, David
This is our presumed starting 5 OL. The only thing that could change is McGovern moving back to LG and Edwards moving back to a reserve role.
High Probability to Make Roster (2)
- Van Demark, Ryan
- Anderson, Alec
These guys are REALLY close to being locks in my opinion.
The Bills signed Alec Anderson as an UDFA, and he spent all of 2022 on the practice squad and the entire 2023 season on the 53. Van Demark was a Colts UDFA in 2022 but like Anderson spent 2022 on our practice squad and all of 2023 on our 53.
The Bills have invested a lot of time/resources into developing both players and I think they clearly have a leg up on the competition.
New Veterans (3)
- Collins, La'el
- Clapp, Will
- Doyle, Tommy*
Collins has some guarantees, but I don't think he's a guarantee to make the roster, although that likely gives him a leg up. I don't think Clapp has a chance to make the roster unless there is an injury at the C position. Tommy Doyle fits here because he's coming off injury, but made the roster in 2021 and 2022, likely would've made it in 2023 before a season ending injury - he's fighting an uphill battle.
Drafted Rookies (3)
- Van Pran-Granger, Sedrick
- Grable, Tylan
- Clayton, Travis
The way Beane spoke about Clayton after the draft, it seems like they've banking on him being the 17th guy on the Practice Squad. My gut tells me that Van Pran-Granger is nearly a lock for the reserve C role (I think this is possible with McGovern and Edwards being able to play G) and pundits seem to think he could end up starting for us this year. Grable is competing for a reserve T role with the likes of Collins, Doyle and Van Demark, if not he's likely another hopeful Practice Squad stash for Beane.
After walking through it I feel pretty comfortable saying we can predict who 8/9 lineman will be on the 53.
- Dawkins, Dion
- Brown, Spencer
- Torrence, O'Cyrus
- McGovern, Connor
- Edwards, David
- Anderson, Alec
- Van Demark, Ryan
- Van Pran-Granger, Sedrick
That leaves Collins, Clapp, Doyle, Grable, Clayton, Edwards, Britton and Bills competing for 1 spot.
Jordan Schultz suggested that Keaton Bills *SHOULD* make this team. I just think that it's going to be an uphill battle for any of the UDFA to break camp on the 53.
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8 minutes ago, Low Positive said:
Ravens just this last year. No one had over 900 yards receiving and only Flowers had over 600. They won 13 games. It was Lamar that strikes the fear. https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/bal/baltimore-ravens
Too bad nobody fears our QB…
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Beane made a comment during his press conference that he believes we’re able to carry 91 during Training Camp because we drafted an IPP player.
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12 minutes ago, FireChans said:
I will agree to a point that Diggs’ exit probably accelerated how bad the lack of succession plan was. But the Bills have sucked at their succession plans for the 2020 stars since.. well… 2020.
Beane drafts a decent WR last year or two years ago and we are feeling much more comfortable with Coleman/Samuel/Shakir filling out the rest of the room.
You mean like when he drafted Khalil Shakir two years ago in the 5th round?
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Brandon Beane didn’t specify they’re getting together to work on football.
It must be because Josh is planning to take them golfing.
His bad habits are going to rub off on them - that lazy piece of *****.
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These UDFA OL seem to be pretty competitive options?
It feels like we’re fairly deep on the OL as it stands, drafted 3 more, interesting these guys would come here?
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A player with the last name Bills… come on
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22 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
He is giving it to us straight. The Bills are in a rebuild year. So he went for all team captains. Guys that interviewed well. Guys that he believes set a new foundation of leadership in the building. He hunted for short term needs that fit the singular character profile he and McDermott feel comfortable with, at the expense of talent at premium positions. And he is telling the fanbase to temper our expectations without coming right out and saying it.
That’s a pretty bold inference based off of a few words.
They’ve always drafted with a specific character profile in mind and didn’t eschew talent. What about his statement says they did now?
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Just now, Green Lightning said:
True, you are so very astute. If your fine with what we have, good for you.
You don’t have to be satisfied and I’m not saying I am.
I just prefer to make sure all the facts are on the table.
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Just now, Green Lightning said:
We have one guy below 4.4 speed on offense. Just saying 2 would be nice.
Saying we have one guy with sub 4.4 speed is different than saying we have 0 players with elite speed.
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3 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:
If you weren't going to double dip on WR on day 2, I love the approach this draft except for maybe should have gotten a CB
MJ Devonshire coming at 219 or 221.
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1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said:
Well they said he converted from TE when he xferred from Jax.
He converted from QB to TE at Jax lol
Crazy.
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4 hours ago, Green Lightning said:
Played 75% of snaps in the slot. Currently where most of our pass catchers operate. We still have no true X or even a #1 receiver.
Okay, that’s different than saying “we have no elite speed.”
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5 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:
Well, he's a Bill and one of us now and I will cheer him on. That said he's not a X and now one of many Bill pass catchers working the middle of the field. Still nobody for DCs to fear deep. No elite speed anywhere on this offense. I guess we're doing slow explosive plays.
Curtis Samuel's Combine 40 time is in the 96th percentile for WR.
He's been in and flirted with being one of the Top 20 fastest ball carriers each season he's been in the NFL.
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Tee Higgins ran a 4.59
Yet everyone wanted to trade multiple picks and give him a fat contract.
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1 hour ago, cale said:
They had Kadarious Toney and made him serviceable
They did?
20 games, 41 receptions for 340 yards and 3 TD.
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Considering Andy Reid has struggled to find a productive WR in KC outside of Tyreek Hill, I’m going to say I don’t care.
Also, Worthy may have the fastest 40 time, but it doesn’t guarantee he plays fast. He’s going to get beat to hell… he’s not Tyreek. Tyreek’s speed isn’t what makes him so unique - despite everyone wanting to boil it down to that.
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
My blockbuster trade prediction is:
Bills receive:
Justin Jefferson
2025 4th
Vikings receive:
2024 1st
2025 2nd
Uhh you usually know things…
This would make sense for them when the recoup what they gave up to acquire Justin Herbert (per CTESPN). Draft a cheaper WR to pair with Addison.
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2 hours ago, Brand J said:
If the Bills had simply drafted Jefferson instead of traded for Diggs, I believe they’d have at least one SB by now (provided Jefferson stayed as healthy as Diggs).
If they had taken Metcalf or AJ Brown in the 2nd instead of Cody Ford, that’s even more compensation the team could’ve kept to hit on other players.“Simply”
The decision wasn’t Diggs or Jefferson. The decision was Diggs or the 22nd pick.
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Where do you see this OL in a couple years?
in The Stadium Wall
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I would also prefer that Grable takes the 9th spot. In my mind the only way La'el Collins should make the team is if he dramatically outperforms Van Demark or Grable. Otherwise, go with the guys who are younger, cheaper and controlled longer.
I do recall the mention of Will Clapp, but I didn't take that as Beane alluding to a better chance of making the roster than we think. It felt more like him saying they didn't feel any pressure to take a C as insurance for McGovern because they had already brought Clapp in. Same thing here for me, go with Van Pran-Granger (VPG) and take your chances with trying to put Clapp on the practice squad if you want the insurance after roster cut downs.
For the record, I'm hopeful that VPG is able to play well enough at C to allow McGovern to move back to LG. I'll feel so much better about our offensive line if we're just replacing the C position and the rest is status quo.
Dawkins (2027) - McGovern (2025) - Van Pran-Granger (2027) - Torrence (2026) - Brown (2024)
Van Demark (2025) - Edwards (2025) - Anderson (2025) - Grable (2027)
There's a chance this could be your OL room for 2024 and 2025 (possibly longer). Although I'm still somewhat skeptical we pursue an extension with Brown until after the season.