RocCityRoller
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On 3/19/2023 at 10:43 AM, Nextmanup said:
This is basically a done deal. Rodgers to the Jets next season...which is going to make our division that much tougher.
Now it's a waiting game. It's simply a question of how much GB can squeeze out of the Jets...but they don't have a ton of leverage as the deal is sort of now done.
They'll string it out as far as they can and maybe turn it into a hostile situation at the end...I still think it will happen in the end.
I hear Stafford is now in play....
GB may have overplayed their hand.
Maybe Denver is too with a player or two.....
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On 3/18/2023 at 12:04 AM, BarleyNY said:
WTF? Oliver’s $10.75M 5th year option became fully guaranteed the instant the Bills picked it up.
Ed Olivier's base salary became guaranteed when the 5th year contract was picked up.
The base salary is always picked up by the team trading for the player. Always.
So the team trading for Oliver is on the hook for the whole salary.
Whether he plays 17 games or not, or if it is restructured.
On 3/18/2023 at 7:28 AM, Herb Nightly said:Wrong again. Once the option is ,exercised, salary becomes guaranteed.
The team trading for the player is responsible for the base salary, guaranteed or not.
It's a way to guarantee the base salary like a signing bonus.
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On 3/17/2023 at 11:27 PM, Snappysnackcakes said:
RocCity - are you from Olean? I remember being at the Olean Center Mall circa 1983?? and watching some badasses walk in with a cardboard remnant and rocking it out for about 10 mins.
I wish I was!
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Sneaky good signing.
6'1" 220 lbs.
4.5 speed.
Can play inside or outside.
Good YAC guy.
Terrific run blocker.
Willingly plays ST.
An upgrade to Kumerow and Lil Dirty in one signing?
Give him McKenzie's 65 targets and see what he can do.
Lil Dirty 2022: 65 TARGETS/ 42 REC/ 423 YARDS/ 4 TD
Sherwood 2022: 51 TARGETS/ 30 REC/ 417 YARDS/ 2 TDs
Only disappointed they did not do 2-3 yrs.
Could have had him at 3 for $7.5 million easily.
Sherfield = WR3/ST
Harty = WR4/ gadget/ST
bUt He oNlY HaD a 56.3% cATcH peRCenTaGe ThROuGh 6 yEArS?!?!
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1 minute ago, SCBills said:
We’d like your $5M underperforming, yet talented WR please.
We’ll give you our $10M underperforming, yet talented DT.
Hello? …? I think they hung up.
This is the point exactly
Jeudy failed in Denver
Oliver failed in Buffalo
Can Buffalo with Allen raise Juedy?
Can Denver raise Oliver?
How much does 5m this year cost???
Is Jeudy a failure because of QB?
Is Oliver a failure because of 'the rotaion'?
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6 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
It's nice that Ed Oliver took the baton from Edmunds of TBD whipping boy.
he is a rookie on a $10m contract this year as a rookie.
None of his salary is guaranteed.
Trade him or resign him for how much???
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5 minutes ago, Chaos said:
Why would Denver make this trade? It is the opposite of what they seem to want to do, which is trade out of a 2 year remaining contract for a 5 year rookie contract for a first rounder. Why would they take on Oliver?
Isn't Oliver on a rookie contract? 1st round pick? 5 years controllable?
1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:I think it depends. I want to know if Vance Joseph is running a 4-3 there. If so he needs a 3 tech.
I know people want to trade Oliver, not sure who replaces him…but for Juedy I do It.
could help both teams and both players
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1 minute ago, Chaos said:
Why would Denver make this trade? It is the opposite of what they seem to want to do, which is trade out of a 2 year remaining contract for a 5 year rookie contract for a first rounder. Why would they take on Oliver?
both guys are in their rookie contract.
Both guys have produced, but not to their draft status.
Both guys have a 5 year controllable contract
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What do you say TBD?
I would do it in a NY Minute
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1 hour ago, Virgil said:
I'd love to see Bobby Wagner and Isaac Seumalo signed and a trade for Jeudy. Honestly, if we did that, I could give a crap about who they take in the draft. I think all of them are signable with a little magic. Wagner would let us take a chance on a later round MLB, Jeudy would put an end to the need at WR, and Seumalo can play both guards and Center.
If we pulled that off, we could honestly go after that RB in the first round and I wouldn't even blink. This offense would be absolutely terrifying. Our defense wouldn't skip a beat, and setup nice for the future. Draft a Safety to prepare for the departure of Hyde/Poyer maybe.
Next season, then we can figure out the Ed Oliver and MLB future plans.I'm more on the Jeudy trade than I was in the past. Would much rather have Jeudy than Hopkins or OBJ.
Nothing more than #27, and would offer less. WR at #27 won't be better.
Hoping Beane trades back at the moment.
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1 hour ago, Virgil said:
From my understanding, he's able to play both G and C, maybe a little smaller, but great pass protection and the Eagles ran the ball very successfully. Talked to an Eagles fan and he's just the odd man out due to depth and other signings.
At this point, I think he'd be a good cheap option that can play the other G spot.
At this point it is a game of chicken. A lot of teams could benefit from signing him. He is the size of a C, but could play G.
He is still a tweener.
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Last I checked Yards and TDs won football games.
Davis does it in spades, but you don't like 'how he did it.'
Let's go with 'lowering the standards'.
Let's look at WRs with 700 yards receiving and 5 TDs.
Could you imagine the blow up if WR2 got 'only' 700 yards and 5 TD 🤣???
TSW would melt down!
No WR#2 worth his salt would have less than 700 yards and 5 TDs according to TSW....
But hey don't let facts mess with the mob....
Only 27 WR IN THE NFL in 2022 had more than 700 yards and 5 TDs in 2022.
Not even 1 per team 🤣
Gabe Davis was 836 / 7 as a #2 just to refresh the memory.....
but half of TSW thinks Davis sucks 🤣🤣🤣
Keep lowering those standards.
Maybe you can get a guy who has 1k yards and 4 TDs! 🤣🤣
or 500 yards and 8 TDs 🤣🤣
Heck.... Leaonard Fournette has an 80% catch rate
let's make him WR #2!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, this board is great.... Never refuses to amaze me and make me laugh.....
thanks guys. You are the best... 🤣🤣
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37 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
lol...come on! Type in "Jeudy"
let me know what pops up...
I did! No polls!
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8 minutes ago, BananaB said:
He got a lot of TDs but he had a lot of drops in crucial times. Some stalled drives, some took points off the board.
There probably ain’t many #2s that got more targets then Gabe, you should look that up. What I do know off hand is he had one game with over 100 yards and in that game 1 reception was 99 yards. He had close to 10 games under 50 yards and 2 or 3 games where he recorded more than 5 catches or more. All that and his catch rate is around 50% which is pretty ***** low. Great guy that works hard but he’s just too inconsistentThere were 16 WR in the entire NFL with 800+ yards receiving and 7+ TDs receiving.
Buffalo had 2 of them.
As many teams did not have Gabe Davis' production as a WR #1 as the Bills had from WR #2.
Miami had 2 (Hill/ Waddle), PHI had 2 (Brown/Smith), CIN had 2 (Chase/ Higgins) and Buffalo had 2 (Diggs/Davis)
That is not by accident.
With duplicates included, only 12 teams had a WR1 more productive than Gabe Davis.
Like it or not.
Kirk got signed for big money (people laughed), and Moore was a trade steal for Chicago.
The list of WR with 800+ yards and 7+ TDs
Justin Jefferson
Davante Adams
Tyreek Hill
CeeDee Lamb
Stefon Diggs
AJ Brown
DeVontae Smith
JaMarr Chase
Christian Kirk
Amari Cooper
Tyler Lockett
Jaylen Waddle
Brandon Aiyuk
Tee Higgins
Gabe Davis
DJ Moore
Pretty good list of WR.
By every metric Gabe Davis = DJ Moore.
Many teams would love to have DJ Moore be their #1 WR, yet TSW has pitchfroks for Davis. It is dumb herd mentality.
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10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Did you search page 1? Scroll down
I already admitted to looking via search that the result did not come up.
I already asked the mods to take it down if they thought it was a duplicate.
There is also merit to finding out exactly what fans would trade for a WR who is on the trade block.
No trophy's given for being difficult on a message board.
13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:I think the asking price from them as a first round pick
I would do that there’s no wide receiver in this draft it’s as good as JJ
Last I saw was a #1, #2 and others...
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Just now, without a drought said:
This did not come up on my search! Mods can delete if duplicate poll exists.
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Denver has asked for a kings ransom for Jerry Jeudy. How much would Bills fans trade for him?
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I love Cole Beasley more than a lot of TSW.
The pitchforks came out last offseason for him for many reasons.
The Bills missed his production at WR3 badly.
Beasely, please stay off of social media.
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5'6" 170
I've yelled at teenagers larger than this to get off of my lawn....
boooo
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47 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
A lot of Buzz about Hopkins to Cowboys.
Good, they are fools
41 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:Teams with franchise QBs have multiple windows. This one feels like it’s closing. It’s just frustrating to see other teams taking big swings and the Bills more or less running it back.
It's a retool year. Should be. The Bills missed on the 5 yr window.
It should be a get lean and cut vets/ high salary season.
Hasn't worked out that way.
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So polarizing! So juicy!
In a weird way both the Jets and the Pack could back out.
Awkward if Rodgers ends up alone....
If I am the Jets I make GB sweat to the draft now.
Could the cheese head QB be the cheese?
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1 minute ago, NewEra said:
The main reason I think/hope that our WR3 is already on the team: i really prefer that we draft an outside WR in rd 1-3 as opposed to a slot guy.
But if JSN falls to us, I’d be very happy with him and being our starting slot. Then we could use Harty more on the outside.
I would too, but not seeing those guys in this year's draft!
Sadly guys like JSN don't fall to 27 in weak WR drafts.....
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1 minute ago, NUT said:
He was not good enough. Problem is neither is Davis.
So you are mixing WR2 and WR3 up.
Simple exercise, very basic.
Show me the WR#2 that had more yards and more TDs than Davis did.
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2 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Right now, i think Harty is our best WR3, but I think that he’ll be on a snap count + he’ll be taking some snaps on the outside as well. Between his snap count, inability blocking and also playing some on the outside, I think shakir will play the most snaps in the slot (based the the current roster).
I think Harty will play a bigger role in the offense.
I really like both players- considering what we paid for the 2 of them, I think we got good value.
agree about WR and OL being top needs- along with the obvious hole at mlb-
if addison, jsn or Johnston don’t fall to us, I hope we can trade down and get a tackle, WR, MLB and TE/IOL in the first 3 rounds. Maybe a DL, RB, S and another WR in there somewhere
It's nice we are generally agreeing on things. Weird but nice 🤣
I'm hoping WR3 is not on the team yet.
Draftwise I like Flowers as a chain mover.
I think Hyatt is a game breaker but not a chain mover.
Assuming the top 3 WR are gone.
What are you thinking about a trade for Jeudy?
I was anti-Jeudy, but I am starting to understand the argument more.
I certainly don't want to give Denver a boatload of picks, but the #27???
What do you think?
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Bills sign Damien Harris
in The Stadium Wall
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I love it, I love it, I love it.
Better than Fournette/ Elliott/ Henry etc at this point.
Great pick up!!!
Miami lost WR#3 and Pats lost RB#2 today to Buffalo.
Both good players, in their peak and should help.