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Great that we know our 3rd string RB and 4th string TE are ready to play...
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Just now, HappyDays said:
I'm still not 100% sure on Peterman's arm strength but the offense is running better with him out there. He's been crazy accurate too.
Its awful. In the regular season he would throw a ton of picks. Wait we have already seen that.
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Rewatched 1st half of offense,. A lot of bad OL play as expected. But Allen does hold the ball way too long. He needs to let it go. That play to Clay was a TD if he throws an accurate ball. Too many plays getting down to under 5 secs on the play clock.
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Just now, HappyDays said:
Wow we have -5 passing yards
Lets criticize Tyrod some more.
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1 minute ago, Playoffs? said:
Really really bad game.
McBeane have major explaining to do on both the O Line and D Line.
There is literally NOTHING good about this game.
- couldn’t evaluate Allen
- offensive line doesn’t look like we have a single starter. This is incredibly bad.
- Wr’s aren’t getting open
- Clay still sucks
- zero pressure by D Line
- linebackers leaving middle of the field open
- V Davis is awful and slow
- Colton Schmidt.. wtf?
- don’t think we got past mid field today..
and i I could keep going!
Ad in coaching. Its preseason and you dont bother to challenge any calls or go for it on 4th and short.
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D was terrible. OL was terrible. Not sure about WR because QB did not have a chance. But did not look promising either. We have Shady and thats it.
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Just now, GreggTX said:
He masked the weakness of our OL, but that won't happen this year. This offense will be bottom 3. Bank on it. The defense will be below average. Get ready to draft the best OL in the draft next Spring.
Bingo. We saw this exact thing from Flutie.
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Could not have been worse. Well I guess a bunch of picks but he did not even have enough time to throw a pick.
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Actual Facts: 1 game
14 for 28 passing
50 % completion
123 yards
4.39 yards / attempt
4 INT
2 sacks
===================== NOT ELITE
Guess who?
Yeah that guy obviously sucks. How is he in the NFL. Wait, its Tom Brady.
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2 hours ago, BillsInWilmingtonNC said:
Through 3 Weeks of Preseason
Tyrod Taylor averaging 9.3 yards per completion (71.4 completion pct.)
Baker Mayfield averaging 13.96 yards per completion (57.8 completion pct.)
What I take away from this is that it has nothing to do with who is calling the plays and everything to do with who is executing the plays. Stats do not always give an accurate picture of what is happening, but these most definitely do. Baker is trying to complete more difficult passes, pushing the ball down the field (Hence why his completion pct. is lower), while Tyrod continues to do Tyrod things, and takes way too many dump off throws underneath for 3 and 4 yards, especially when its 3rd and 10.
Really? Watch this. Not pretty. And FYI Tyrod's numbers look about the same as Tom Brady this preseason for whatever that means.
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People need something to talk about
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Simms has been on the Allen train for a long long time. I hope he is right but its too early to tell.
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48 minutes ago, beerme1 said:
Big body, stood in the pocket once already and took a shot on the chin and got right back up. You don't see any comparison yet?
Obviously premature to say it but will you agree if someone says Josh Allen is built like a linebacker lol
Kelly was a LB. Recruited to play LB at Penn State. He played with that type of mindset at the QB position. Dont see the same mindset with Allen. Every "big" QB is not a touch or physical QB. Not to mention Jim was not the biggest guy but played like he was. I think he was only like 210 coming out of college at 6'3.
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Why is he tough like Kelly? Based on what? Not bashing Allen at all just seems like people want him to be Jim Kelly when he is not.
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12 hours ago, Mark Vader said:
I was not expecting the type of offensive play calling that we saw tonight.
How many times did we run the ball with the first unit? Twice?
What decisions need to be made? RB or QB and WR? There is no question who the RB is on this team. They do have only a few weeks to decide who the QB will be and who he will be throwing to. Thus expect to see more of this in preseason. They will still be a run heavy team.
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Seriously reaching. Not to mention the Bills barely played TT in pre-season.
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21 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:
Options? He prefers being in Cleveland? Tyrod does throw a nice deep ball on occasion but.. More often than it he is going to tuck it and run. A WR looking for a big contract would be happier with Peterman throwing to him than Tyrod (he of 1 career 300 yd game). Just saying.
No WR prefers Peterman to Tyrod. Maybe a CB prefers playing Peterman, but no WR chooses him over Tyrod or just about ny other QB in the league. If Peterman starts we easily have the worst QB in the leage.
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5 hours ago, RobH063 said:
Mike Trout struck out hundreds of times growing up playing baseball. He made hundreds of errors too. I knew he would never be any good.
No Trout was not Josh Allen...
Trout attended Millville Senior High School in Millville, New Jersey where he played both baseball and basketball,[16] earning five letters (three in baseball and two in basketball).[8] In his junior year, he threw a no-hitter against Egg Harbor Township High School. The Thunderbolts made it to the state playoffs and were defeated by Cherry Hill High School East.[14] He started as a pitcher and shortstop, and was shifted to the outfield during his senior year.[17] That year, he hit 18 home runs, a New Jersey high school record.[18] Trout had committed to play baseball at East Carolina University prior to the 2009 MLB Draft.[8] Millville initially planned to retire Trout's jersey number, but instead began awarding it to the team captain, starting in 2012.[19]
Trout played travel ball with Tri-State Arsenal, one of the premier travel programs in the Northeast. He began working with the coaches at Arsenal at age 14.[20] Trout played in various tournaments with Tri-State Arsenal, including the Perfect Game WWBA Championships in Jupiter, Florida in 2007 and 2008.[21]
In the summer before his senior year, Trout attended the Area Code Games in southern California, where he went 6-for-11 against some of the best players in the country.[22] Angels scout Greg Morhardt, who had played in the minor leagues with Trout's father, claimed Mike was the fastest and strongest 17-year-old he had ever seen.[9]
He started his professional career in 2009 playing for the Arizona Angels of the rookie-level Arizona League, hitting .360 with a .418 OBP and .506 SLG with one home run, 25 runs batted in (RBIs), and 13 stolen bases in 187 plate appearances over 39 games. He was beaten out in being named AZL Most Valuable Player by Cody Decker.[24][25] He finished the season playing for the Cedar Rapids Kernels of the Class A Midwest League, hitting .267 over 20 plate appearances in five games.[citation needed]
Before the 2010 season, Trout was considered the Angels' third-best prospect and the 85th-best in all of baseball by Baseball America.[26][27] He started the season playing for Cedar Rapids, where he hit .362 with a .454 on-base percentage (OBP) and a .526 slugging percentage (SLG) with six home runs, 39 RBIs, and 45 stolen bases in 82 games. He was selected to play in the All-Star Futures Game.[18] In July, Baseball America named Trout the second-best overall baseball prospect.[28] After the Futures game, he was promoted to the Rancho Cucamonga Quakes of the Class A-Advanced California League.[29]
After the 2010 season, Trout was named 2010 J.G. Taylor Spink Award as the Topps Minor League Player of the Year. At just 19 years and two months, he was the youngest player to win this award.[30] He was also named a Baseball America All-Star as well as a Topps Class A All-Star.[31]
Prior to the 2011 season, Trout was ranked number one by ESPN's Keith Law in his 2011 top 100 prospects list[32] and by MLB's Jonathan Mayo.[33] Trout started the 2011 season with the Arkansas Travelers of the Class AA Texas League. He hit .324 with nine home runs, 27 RBIs, and 28 stolen bases in his first 75 games.[34]
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3 hours ago, HappyDays said:
Exactly. I guess providing data is now considered being a sycophant. I was ready to move on from Tyrod, his time here was over. But everyone has convinced themselves our offense was awful the whole time he was here. That very clearly was not the case. It's entirely possible he plays well enough this year that Mayfield doesn't start a single game. It's also possible he continues his downward trend and has the worst season of his career.
I'm also not sure why people are saying Tyrod always looked great in the offseason. My memory is that his offseasons were pretty average at best. We should prepare for the possibility that Tyrod outplays whoever our starter is this year. Even if that happens that doesn't mean we made the wrong move trading him away and drafting Josh Allen. I'm not here to root for the Bills to look stupid, but I'm also not going to ignore the reality that Tyrod has arguably the best supporting cast he's ever had and will be in an offense designed for his skill set. If that makes me a sycophant so be it.
It is selective memory. Tyrod did some good things and some bad things. I think he is a good QB for a team that has a lack of weapons or OL because he can improvise. But a team being built for a more traditional passing attack there are better options if you can find them. But that should not get turned into he is awful and everyone knows it. He has obvious value as the Bills gave him a decent contract and Browns wound up trading some decent value for him. The Browns players and former Bills players still say he was a good player. But us message board folks are the real experts. We can alter the facts to create new realities.
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37 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Completely disagree but irrespective your opinion. I’m not just going to blindly pretend like every player the Bills have is awesome.
i wasn’t a Tyrod fan. I was ready to move on last year. But I think people pretend like it’s so easier to replace him. Fact is guys like Tyrod and Fitz, while limited, are having careers better than 90% of qbs who have ever played. Tyrod, who was not as physically gifted, had a better college career in a better conference than Allen. It’s not a given he will be better than Tyrod. That said, even though Allen was far from the guy I wanted, it was time to move on.
I hate excuses. Tyrod wasn’t a good passing qb. Allen for all his physical talent wasn’t a good passing qb in college (2 300 yard games).
Franchise qbs elevate the players around them. Tyrod didn’t do it. Hopefully Allen will be better at it in the pros than he was in college.
These are great points. I think most rational people agree with you. Tyrod is an NFL starter though some folks on this board talk like he could not even play high school ball. Yes, his passing game could have been improved, but he made up for some of that with his legs. Yes you can upgrade from him, but you can also get much worse.
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22 minutes ago, BB@Shooter said:
Different quarterbacks, systems, and coaches. I am pretty sure this staff could care less what EJ Manuel did when he was here. Why do so many of you on here like to look at past failures on here? It is akin to waking up in Seattle everyday and realizing it is raining , again. But that you keep living there and do nothing to change the outcome. I understand it is Buffalo and is expected, the Browns are the same way. But I honestly don't know how you guys live with defeat , and the never ending negative thinking. Not a way to go through life, or even a week at a time.
This draft brought you some good picks, be exited about that if nothing else. It looks like the defense will be solid, that is how championship teams get started. It is not like a college team where it takes a vast amount of time to change a program around. It is the NFL and free agency. A team can build through the draft and trades along with it. Give this GM and coaches a bit of time to turn this around. They have been a part of winning elsewhere, that is big.
The point is the spin in rookie camp or OTA's or whatever is generally overly positive. For many reasons - build fan excitement, sell tickets, marketing / advertising, player morale, and on and on.
Until they put pads on and start playing other teams we dont know what we really have.
Yet there is a camp that thinks we always have to blindly agree that player xyz is the best ever because our new front office and coaching staff (who are also the best ever) say so. By saying that EJ also got praise does not mean anyone is rooting against Allen or saying he sucks. Its just saying things tend to always looks this way this time of year. So hearing about the pass that was thrown in shorts with no rush to an undrafted WR caught against an undrafted CB, are not the type of things to make you believe he is the best guy ever type of stuff. That see "proof we have our franchise QB" or falsehoods that "Tyrod or Fitz or whoever never would have made that pass", etc.
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11 hours ago, JaCrispy said:
Does anyone remember how EJ looked in OTA’s? Just curious, I don’t remember...and obviously i think Allen is 10 times the prospect EJ was coming out.
Buffalo Bills head coach Doug Marrone likes what he's seen from rookie quarterback E.J. Manuel -- in fact, Marrone says the former Florida State signal caller is the best rookie player he's ever coached (Marrone was an assistant with the Jets and the Saints). The Bills selected Manuel with their first-round pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.
"Rookie quarterback EJ Manuel passed the eyeball test in his first practice with the Buffalo Bills Friday. The 6-foot-5, 237-pounder from Florida State showed off his big arm and a nearly effortless ability to throw deep down the sideline during the first of three rookie minicamp practices inside the Bills’ fieldhouse."
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18 hours ago, GimmeSomeProcess said:
Word is from who? I’ve read no report like that
People that were at the OTA's.
15 hours ago, Bill_with_it said:You cant be serious. I didnt read a single he was holding the ball too long by any reporter there. Post it or get this bs outta here.
This is from people there. It was also discussed on WGR.
Peterman threw mostly short balls. Either none or maybe one ball past 20 yards.
AJM threw 2 balls past 20 yards.
Allen threw 8 past 20 yards which is a good thing. Though they said he held on to the ball a long time in doing it, so who knows if in real action he would have had a play or been sacked, rushed out of the pocket etc.
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Against 3rd team defense.Still hoping for the best. I tend to not get excited in OTA's, with no pass rush, etc. Word is he was holding the ball much longer so if it was real live action may not have that much time.
What areas of the team has Beane actually improved?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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As of today:
What position group is better than a few years ago?
QB - Not yet. Hopefully Allen makes this a yes.
RB - Older McCoy
WR - Nobody.
OL - Awful
DL - Not awful, but worse.
LB - Right now P Brown would be upgrade. Edmunds better pan out.
DB - Only unit close to better but not looking it lately.