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1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:
Whoever coined the phrase draft capital needs punched in the face. So annoying.
It just sounds more important than draft ammo lol
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5 hours ago, JaCrispy said:
Exactly ...And putting out that the bills have made a sweet offer is probably only to get other teams to up the ante
No one has more capital than us and is more willing than us so I see no competition.
On another note taking back players to free up cap for them sounds interesting. I don’t think the Giants are particularly enamored with Josh Rosen.
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This isn’t now Draft Day. The Browns will stay at #1 and take Darnold. Why even entertain anything else? LOL!
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Lesson to everyone: Stay away from synthetic weed
This happened with Robert Nkemdiche and Gerald Green as well within the past few years
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10 minutes ago, Gugny said:
That's what you get when you have a crappy, lazy, slow GM.
How do I delete someone else's post?
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Per Bruce Feldman
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If Bill Polian keeps talking they might unduct him from the HOF
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5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Moved down 17 spots and only got one future 1st? And the the player selected was the 2nd QB off the board. Compared to what we are going to have to give up for moving up 10 spots for the 2nd QB off the board? Is Rosen considered that much better than Mahomes or was Whaley asleep! I know it is to 2 instead of 10 but we also moved to 27 instead of 12.
When the trade was announced my first reaction was, "That's it?"
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We're still taking ICB serious?
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On 3/18/2018 at 4:21 PM, Reed83HOF said:
I see this debated in so many threads below is what Beane has said he looks for in QBs (this info is from May 2017). What QBs available in tier 1 and 2 check these boxes?
From Article 1
To be in this league, whether its Tyrod or name the quarterback, you have to make plays consistently from the pocket. The quarterbacks that are succeeding year after year after year consistently make plays from the pocket. That's what, whoever the franchise quarterback is going to be, that's what he'll have to do."
"Obviously, you draw them up, from a physical standpoint, they look like Cam (Newton)," Beane said. "But how many are there like that? You want a guy, the stature, the height, you know, they're standing over, they're not worried about linemen in their face. It gives them the vision and all that. Arm strength. But the one thing that people I think miss a little bit when they're watching, you know, the college game schematically has just been so dummied down that these guys know before the ball's snapped right where they're going. There's no progressions. There's no audibiling. That's the challenge that the college guys have, and it's brutal. And these quarterbacks that are getting drafted high that have never taken a snap from center, have never called an audible. That's tough. The intangibles are the other thing that you can't necessarily measure from the film. I can turn on the film and watch some things. You obviously want to see quarterbacks live, but what's this guy's makeup? What's his leadership? Do guys rally behind him?
From Article 2
You know, you love arm strength. You can't teach arm strength. You can probably improve it a little bit... the accuracy is very important. You know, the guys are not as open in the pros as they are in college, and so, it will show if you've got a guy that's inaccurate from the pocket.
You have to have the leadership qualities. You've got to get guys to follow you. It is a quarterback league, and if you don't have the leadership in the other guys, that's 11 guys on the field -- if they're not following you, it just doesn't work. I've seen quarterbacks that have arm talent. We've known the names in this league -- I'm not going to call them out -- that have all the talent in the world and they've been first-round picks.... but they aren't leaders. You've got to start there. You want to be able to have a passer that can throw from the pocket. It's good to be mobile... we love that. And obviously, Tyrod brings that, and I think Peterman has some things like that. You know, all these guys have some different qualities... there's not one thing, but, at the end of the day, quarterbacks in the NFL must be able to throw from the pocket.
Brandon Beane: Yeah, I mean, calculated risk... whatever you want to call it. There are some times when they are going to have to thread the needle. It's third and long, and it's late in the game, and we've got to get this play, and they're going to put a spy on the quarterback or something like that... he's got to stand in there, trust his reads, trust his progressions... and sling it and make the throw. You have to do that. In college, you see a lot of running quarterbacks that can just make a play with their own. Everything breaks down and it becomes sandlot football, and you do see some plays in the NFL, but the speed is so different here. It takes a special player to do it, and to do it often... and again, the pounding that you take. We saw that in Carolina last year. Cam took more hits last year than he had in the previous years, so, it's a tough league. And again, I'll go back to it: You have to be able to throw from the pocket.
This describes only two QB's and it's pretty obvious.
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People who make TT-Jackson comparisons. Stop discussing QB’s. They’re completely different players.
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5 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said:
1. Allen: elite arm, played in a more pro-style offense than all other QB's except Darnold, low comp % is scary though his supporting cast was terrible
2. Rosen: athletically probably the most all-around gifted QB but does not have near the arm of Allen or Darnold. Played in more than one offensive system at UCLA
3. Mayfield: may have second highest ceiling and the lowest floor, can accuracy trump height? He is either Drew Brees/Russell Wilson or pick any of 20 short QBs to flame out over the last 10 years.
4. Darnold: pro-style system with above average arm talent. Throws too many picks which for me is more of a red flag than Allen's comp percentage. Got worse as time went on just like almost all USC QBs do.
Darnold has a better arm than Rosen? I swear yall just be saying anything on this message board lol.
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I think they’re set on Josh Allen but yes the Rosen/Woody/Trump thing probably disqualifies him.
The key to the Draft is whatever the hell the Giants do. Are they taking Barkley or is it Rosen/Allen?
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1. Carson Wentz
2. Patrick Mahomes
3. Josh Rosen
4. Sam Darnold
5. Jared Goff
6. Mitch Trubisky
7. Baker Mayfield
8. DeShaun Watson
9. Josh Allen
10. DeShone Kizer -
Call about the #1 pick but settle on #4
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Rashaan Evans though >>>>>
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He doesn't know anything
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The Mason Rudolph love is getting ridiculous. He's a one read QB who played in an inflated system in a weak defensive conference surrounded with a future 1st Round RB and two 2nd round WR's. LOL!
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If you have a great arm and are accurate to all areas of the field there's a great chance you're going to be NFL starter for a while. Anyone wanna guess which two QB's do that better than anyone else in this Draft?
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If you don't think this year is a great QB class there will never be a class where you're intrigued. Wish we could fast forward to Stidham/Eason/Lock next year and see how everyone regrets not taking a QB this year.
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Would it surprise you if Lamar Jackson turns out to be better than The Big 4? I wouldn’t be.
This kid is special. Needs work but he brings so much to the table.
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Why are we taking a 3rd Rd prospect in the 1st?
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Some people shouldn’t be allowed to create threads
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6 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:
No it wont
Tbh we might have to pay more
6 hours ago, oldmanfan said:Then they're not locked out because they could do that. What is wrong with people today?
What if the Giants have decided on taking a QB and the Browns refuse to move out of the #4 position and take Barkley. We’ve essentially been locked out of the process.
Previously the "Convince me Allen won't suck" thread, now the... "you're welcome" thread
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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The NFL has changed 8 times since then