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12 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
I am biased since I follow Michigan football, but McCarthy is a baller. He is going to be a very solid QB for them.
He's got some real issues to work on but he's one of those guys I feel like you can't help but root for. Feel like last night's game showed pretty much all the pros and cons that I saw when I scouted him at Michigan.
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2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:
Just about the entire bills fan population was there for the comeback game during our SB years if that is any indication.
From this camera angle, you can definitely see Coleman was shoved out. The 2 pointer should have counted.
@Einstein asked earlier what does he have to do to re-establish himself. Not sure if you know the answer or not, but it's simply getting 2 feet back in bounds.
Although, I am hearing from others that you can't re-establish at all if you are forced out the back of the endzone. The rulebook says "legally" forced out. Whats legally? Is it not illegal contact anyway you look at this?
If Josh was outside of the pocket, illegal contact basically doesn't exist (and it is very close but I think he may have been out of the pocket).
Even if he was still inside the pocket, I think you could argue the contact doesn't rise to the level of illegal contact but ultimately I think they got this call right, or at least I think it's close enough that it could go either way and be justified.
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6 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:
I thought Dak was great all game. That last throw was the right read, just missed it
I wouldn't even say he missed the last throw; it's just a really tough throw to make and he put in a place where Lamb could make the (difficult) catch and it didn't work out. Dak had a very good game.
I think there's a reasonable argument that Dak was the best player on the field last night.
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Looks like the site is still up and working for me. Only thing I really use it for is the Washington Mystics because DC charges like $400 to watch the local teams here and I ain't doing that when WNBA League Pass is like $10 lol
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5 hours ago, Ayjent said:
Kyle Trask in Tampa was a bit surprising as a 2nd round pick that didnt look awful but really has never had an opportunity to play much in his time with the Bucs. Although i get why the Bucs went with an experienced backup with their aspirations this year. Bridgewater was coaching HS football and getting in troubke doing it. Just weird that Bucs made that investment, and have had 3 OCs in his 4 preseasons. I thought Trask was over drafted but he is a very accurate passer and in the right offense could be pretty effective.
I did skip a couple years, but I think Trask is still holding it down as my lowest rated QB prospect that I've watched over the last 10 or so years (tbf, I generally only watch the top 8-10 QBs each year.
Surprised he held on in Tampa as long as he did.
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36 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:
My rankings
Best of the Bunch: Bills, Seahawks
Great: 49ers, Cardinals (I honestly wish they would change their away jersey to a tan version just to stand out)
Fine I guess: Rams. Will need to see in action.
Black for Blacks sake: Dolphins
LOL: Jets, Pats
- Cardinals - legitimately great look IMO
- Patriots - cool shade of blue and silver at least
- Bills - think these look better up close than they will on TV because of the tiny detail on the shoulders
- Jets - Eh.
- Seahawks - At least they didn't just spam black like the bottom three.
- Rams - Lame.
- Dolphins - Lamer.
- 49ers - Not even really a new jersey for them.
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14 minutes ago, syhuang said:
Baker in particular was a draft crush for many including myself.
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8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Think this is absolutely fair. Nabers, BTJ and Ladd had great rookie years but given we were talking ten in the first two rounds it hasn't quite lived up. Interestingly Corley (who I thought at the time was way overdrafted, never a day two pick for me) was WR11 at the top of the third round. I know the regime has changed but to be on the outs by the end of your second camp....... wowzers.
I would say relative to the hype/where they were drafted:
- Harrison - disappointing but promising still
- Nabers - hit
- Odunze - disappointing, could go either way still
- Thomas - hit
- Worthy - need to see more, but pretty promising
- Pearsall - need to see more, but pretty promising
- Legette - need to see more, could go either way (lean disappointing)
- Coleman - need to see more, could go either way (lean promising)
- McConkey - hit
- Polk - bust
- AD Mitchell - not enough snaps to really say and disaster QB situation
- Corley - bust
- Burton - not enough snaps to say, lean bust
- Roman Wilson - getting some camp hype this year but TBD
- McMillan - promising rookie season
- McCaffrey - not enough snaps to say, lean bust
That's all the top 3 round guys. Outside the top 3 rounds, Franklin is getting some camp hype this year, Devaughn Vele had a strong rookie season relative to draft position, and Jalen Coker was very promising as an UDFA guy off the top of my head.
At any rate, I feel like that's a pretty strong start for the class. If Harrison and Odunze both end up being busts that would be a pretty big whiff on both but I don't personally see that being the case.
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7 hours ago, rusty shackleford said:
Really wish the Bills would have taken a shot with Milton in last year’s draft. He’s been looking pretty good so far in this Cowboys game.
Cowboys writers have been going off about how stupid it was to trade an asset for him given how bad he's looked throughout camp/preseason.
There's a ceiling there for sure but I would take a veteran like Trubisky over Milton every single time given where our team is right now.
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2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
I just can't assume that, in fact, I would bet money against it. He's a better blocker than Palmer and you saw how Hollins solidified a huge snap count as a result of that quality. He will rob snaps from at least Palmer and maybe Palmer and Keon. He's got too much "process" for that not to happen. A reason exists why he couldn't get off the field before. They like him, a lot. He's a McD guy to the core. They just knew Jags overspent.
I think it's fair to look at it that way but it's also entirely possible like 90% of the snaps that Gave would get are snaps that Palmer wouldn't be playing anyways. It would be someone that blocks worse than Gabe taking Palmer's place instead.
So much of our offense last season was putting out personnel that dared defenses to play nickel and then try to bully them, and a lineup with Gabe and Coleman could take that to the max.
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I wonder if the DuBose signing impacts this at all.
I said it a few weeks ago though, Gabe is probably signing somewhere on the minimum/potentially even practice squad. He's a steal at that cost IMO. Most players at that cost are guys that cannot under any circumstance play a snap of offense.
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4 hours ago, Maine-iac said:
Hard to tell from preseason but two guys I was hoping we'd take a late swing on seem to be playing well in Seattle. Tory Horton and Martinez would have both been nice editions here. Cook has been a non issue and our RB room looks good as is but I've always wished we had a 6 foot something 220 pound back who could actually bang but not drafting another RB isn't much of an issue. Horton on the other hand would have been a great addition and seems to check a lot of boxes as far as game speed, size, and actual polish. Also interesting to see Jordan Phillips had a night for the Dolphins. I'm the first to admit I thought we'd go 1 tech and later take a swing on penetrating DT and I thought wrong.
I didn't scout a lot last year, but I had scouted Horton a couple years ago and was really impressed by him.
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On 8/12/2025 at 10:33 PM, Billl said:
3500 yards, 20 TDs, and 6 INTs plus 500 yards rushing is statistically a top 5 rookie season all time. It was the second best season by a QB in the history of the franchise.
The raw numbers are fine...he didn't play well.
QBR (overall ranking in parentheses):
- Jayden Daniels (4)
- Drake Maye (17)
- Bo Nix (18)
- Caleb Williams (28)
Penix didn't start enough games to qualify for the season leaderboard, but his QBR from his 3 starts would have likely placed him around Maye and Nix.
Era-Adjusted ELO - I pulled each first rounder dating back to Josh Allen's class for fun (26 of them) and pulled their Era-Adjusted ELO through their first 17 starts (the number that Caleb has started), or if the 1st rounder didn't even make it to 17 starts in their career, then whatever their career ELO ended up being. Ranking amongst the 26 in parentheses:
- Jayden Daniels - +63.6 per game (1)
- Bo Nix - +53.7 per game (4)
- Drake Maye - +9.8 per game (8)
- Michael Penix - -35.0 per game (17)
- Caleb Williams - -47.7 per game (18)
For reference, 9 of the 26 had a positive era-adjusted ELO through 17 starts: Daniels, Lamar, Herbert, Nix, Stroud, Jordan Love, Burrow, Maye, and Kyler Murray. The folks ranked below Caleb's rookie year are: Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, Dwayne Haskins, Zach Wilson, Bryce Young, and Josh Rosen.
PFF Grade (position rank in parentheses):
- Jayden Daniels (6)
- Michael Penix (8)
- Bo Nix (22)
- Drake Maye (40)
- Caleb Williams (44)
And if you just want to go off of the eye test and watched the games, he simply did not play well. Now how much of the blame you want to place on him vs. poor coaching, OL play, etc. is up to you, but I don't think there's really any argument that he wasn't disappointing. I'm not saying he was a trainwreck or anything and I personally still like him quite a bit as a prospect. But yeah, he was hyped up to be one of the best QB prospects of all time and instead was arguably the worst in his class as a rookie.
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8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Who is voting Matthew Stafford into Tier 1? It's not a lifetime achievement award ffs. It's a problem these things always have. NFL GMs are slow to move guys down. Seen it in previous editions with Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers to mention but two.
Matt Stafford was underrated in his prime partly because he spent so long on bad Lions teams. And now it has flipped the other way. He is not a tier 1 Quarterback at this stage of his career. Not even close.
The best part is Stafford moved UP into Tier 1 this year. He gained 5 Tier 1 votes compared to 2024. He wouldn't be my choice but I do think he has an argument for being the 5th best QB in the league right now, but #5 is simply nowhere near the same tier as the top 4.
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54 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:
I do wonder how the Bears offense will look with Williams. Williams and Geoff who Ben Johnson most recently built an offense on are two different styles of QB's. Geoff is a pure pocket passer, he isn't immobile but much of his mobility comes from within the pocket as opposed to designed runs and scrambles. Williams flourished in College when he was moving around not a Lamar or Josh style runner but someone who worked well when plays collapsed or within designed rollouts and designed movements.
So Ben Johnson simply can't import his offense with some minor tweaks and have it work well to Williams playstyle. So I do wonder if they will try to heavily modify the offense towards a moving QB? That's the type of analysis that I hope to hear not some bull#### about pre-season.
Yep. They've seemingly improved the offensive line a ton (and to be honest, folks put way too much of the sacks on the OL last year...they were average at best but they weren't a trainwreck like a lot of people suggested they were) and the pass catchers around Caleb should be pretty good. There's really no excuse for that offense to struggle in 2025.
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1 hour ago, Logic said:
Listen, as an ice cream lover of the highest order, I don't say this lightly:
Pittsford Dairy is my favorite ice cream place in the world.
It's got lots of great baked goods, packaged yum-yums, and is a generally well organized and lovely (if overpriced) place.
But the ice cream? Oh man. It's good. I particularly love the soft serve peanut butter cup sundae.
In my opinion, it's worth the trip and worth the weight. Elite ice cream.Yeah, as I mentioned before, it holds up well against any ice cream place I've been to in the US, and I have been to a ton of them lol. The good gelato places in Italy are understandably a cut above, but Pittsford Dairy, the creamery in PA that I mentioned, and one hidden gem in DC that I've found are probably the best ice cream I've had here.
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32 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:
Now you got me wondering if anyone's ever put kale in ice cream. We're not too far from Gilroy, CA which is the self-dubbed "Garlic Capitol of the World" and they have garlic ice cream for the Garlic Festival... which was resurrected this year for the first time since the shooting back in... 2020?
Anyways, garlic ice cream... haven't tried it yet.
I haven't tried garlic ice cream, but have recently had olive oil ice cream and it was outstanding.
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21 hours ago, Big Blitz said:
I think it goes without saying that Caleb had a disappointing rookie season (I don't think it's an especially hot take to say he was the 4th or 5th best among the 5 first rounders last year) and has a lot to prove in Year 2. Having said that, so much of what Cowherd says here is misleading or just flat out laughable.
The description for Tier 4 in Mike Sando's rating system is "unproven" OR "veterans that should not start all 17 games". The former is why all of the 2nd year QBs, including Jayden Daniels, received Tier 4 votes. Some of the voters take the tier descriptions very seriously and it stands to reason that every young QB needs to prove themselves across multiple seasons. Having said that, even if the tier descriptions were not provided and people were just given the assignment of listing the QBs across 5 tiers, having Caleb in Tier 3 or 4 makes sense. It's entirely possible Cowherd didn't actually read the article about the rankings and simply didn't know specific guidelines like that were provided.
The idea that sitting the starting QB in the preseason is abnormal is simply a joke and this is a point that Cowherd knows he's just making up. Starting QBs are rested in preseason all the freaking time including this past week. He kept repeating over and over that every starting QB played this week when in reality, it was only half of them (and in a few of those cases, they are literally competing for the starting QB job so of course they're playing). Amongst established starters, it was less than half of them playing in the preseason opener. Also for historical reference, across Ben Johnson's three years as OC in Detroit, his starting QB appeared in one preseason game. He just doesn't believe in it.
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10 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:
That dirt ice cream looked great. now how do I get it 100 miles home still frozen
In case nobody else responded, a simple cooler with ice should do the trick. I have transported ice cream from a creamery in in the suburbs of PA to Washington DC, around 3ish hour drive and it's held up perfectly well. The biggest issue is fighting the desire to eat it in transit.
10 hours ago, The BLUES Brothers said:Pittsford Dairy is a huge draw in the summer months, with lines well out of the front door.
Worth the wait in line for the ice cream, and they sell some amazing gourmet baked goods inside, too including the best biscotti.
If you like ice cream and come to ROC, Abbotts has awesome frozen custard, and Lugia's in Spencerport has ice cream cones served so tall, they could be on the Flintstones lol
I've only been to Pittsford Dairy a handful of times as various Abbott's locations have just always been a lot more convenient and I personally LOVE Abbott's. Pittsford Dairy is excellent ice cream though; compares well to any ice cream I've had in the US.
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I have sort of mixed feelings on him, but I think my main take is that McD is a top 10 coach and that's very difficult to find. There's a very high likelihood that anyone you get to replace him will be a demonstrably worse coach. Having said that, sometimes the message gets stale and you simply need a new messenger even if they aren't technically as good a coach.
On the flipside, I think there often comes a time where you see a coach and team come up short in the same way over and over again and it feels apparent that the coach just isn't improving and as a result, there's really no hope that the next year will be the breakthrough. I don't really feel that way with McD. Every year he's become a bit better making decisions, a bit better with his offensive aggressiveness, etc. (challenge decisions notwithstanding). And I think last season was the best coaching job of his career given all the attrition we had on the defensive side of the ball. Like, for the system we run, the intelligence and composure that Hyde and Poyer brought to the defensive backfield was maybe the main driver of the defense and the safety position was a ***** ton worse last year and McD still found a way to make it mostly work for us.
There's probably a worst case scenario type of season that could change my mind, but as things currently stand, I think it would be a very bad idea to move on even if we come up a little short again this season.
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7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:
“In 2023, Benford ranked 18th in my coverage DVOA metric among qualified corners. Last season, he climbed up to fourth overall. He was targeted on 10.1% of passes when he was on the field, one of the lowest figures in the league, and he allowed just 6.1 yards per target.“
Yeah I was listening to a podcast with him and he said he actually had Benford on his DPOY ballot last season (I think 5th place, but still).
I think any reasonable person would consider Benford and Shakir to be home run picks given where we took them.
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"Impact" may be strong, but I would say Zay Jones has landed on his feet pretty well post-Bills. Certainly better than I expected him to be.
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I don't really think Washington will consider trading him, but can't hurt to feel it out. I would imagine Beane has probably made an initial call as most GMs would.
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10 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
Unrelated, but did anyone catch Brasky’s rant yesterday about not getting media credentials? He was really lashing out at Bills PR, Tyler Dunne, John Wawrow, etc. I thought it was insanely unprofessional.I saw some back and forth between him and Dunne but didn't follow it back to the beginning. Feels kinda odd though; isn't Brasky working for SI now? It's not like he's just a random Bills blog.
Charlie Kirk shot in the neck in Utah......in critical condition
in Off the Wall
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Assuming most people that see this post already know, but Charlie Kirk is confirmed dead.