Theshallowcross

About 46 players dress on game day. 60+ plays are run on both offense and defense (not accounting for STs) It's the ultimate TEAM sport. Laying every win or loss on the quarterback alone isn't a good measure of how the team played.

Football outsiders DVOA. The only true measure of team success. What I am hinting at is that he continues to get better even with all of the moving parts and mismanagement around him.

In the Chargers first four games they lost by 3/2/14/2. They're 5-2 since with their only losses coming @New England and @Jacksonville. Both cross country, east coast 1:00 games (circadian rhythm) to current playoff team's. Lynn is a damn good coach and we would've been lucky to have him. The Chargers are a good team. Judging by this response ^ it seems you have made up your mind and have drawn your line in the sand. In which case we have passed the point of intelligent discourse.

He did finish with the 12th ranked passing game in 2015 and the 18th in 2016. In 2016 we had two different OCs and we also led the league in rushing attempts. He completes 62.9% of his passes for his career here and is at 63.8% this year driving his rating up almost a full point with way less receiving talent and with zero help from the play calling, Oline and running game. They need to commit to his development. He is only a 3 year starter who has been in 4 different systems and he continues to progress. They need to build this team around him with all the premium draft picks they have this year.

The correct decision was to keep Anthony Lynn. It would've kept the continuity of a top 10 offense in tact and the defense still would've made the switch to the 43 base because Lynn and Bradley were a packaged deal. Lynn also would have valued Watkins/Woods/Goodwin and Dareus more than McD did and at least 3 of the 4 still be here.

I don't get this argument at all. Taylor was a major factor in why the running game finished 2nd in DVOA in 2015 and 1st in DVOA in 2016. The threat of his legs and the fact that he leads all quarterbacks since 2015 in rushing yards had a ton to do with the success of the running game. He also led the offense to a 9th overall ranking in 2015 and a 10th rated offense in 2016. That's the quarterback of a top ten offense. I have no idea why this quarterback gets such a bad wrap from Bills fans? We've seen some horrible awful quarterbacks over this last 17 years. Taylor is NOT one of them.

McD will get another year but he should be on a short leash. His decision making skills are a huge question mark right now and his vision of what he wants the team to be as far as roster construction is kind of alarming. A head coach lives and dies with his choices for assistant coaches and McD thinking that Rick Dennison was a good idea for his OC is mind boggling. A guy who has never called his own plays and now has been proven to be predictable. If the Bills offense is in shotgun, we pass at an 82% rate. If we're under center we run the ball 72% of the time. That's completely predictable. If the Bills are in shotgun - they're passing. If the QB is under center - they're running. Horrible. The Oline has regressed in both the running game and in pass pro. He changed the scheme completely from taking a power and gap scheme offensive line with players better suited for that scheme and changing it to an unfamiliar zone scheme was an incredibly dumb decision and it shows in the regression of the offense. Dennison was a very poor hire by McD. He needs to make the change next season and hire a young and innovative offensive mind or risk getting fired because of his poor decision. As far as the Peterman decision that was a call that he NEVER should have made. His team was 5-4 and the current 6 seed. Benching your starting QB after 2 losses and 2 defensive implosions (now 3) made it seem like he didn't know what he was doing or that he was making Taylor the scapegoat for the catastrophe that is his own defense. That Peterman had the literal worst first half, first start performance in the history of football, just made the narrative that McD has no idea what he is doing all the more glaring. That kid just isn't good. It is what it is. He may be better with a few years on the bench learning but he is not ready and nowhere near the quarterback that Taylor is. Let's talk about the Peterman interception to Dimarco just to reiterate how bad Dennison is. Why are you throwing the ball to DiMarco in the first place. He runs a 4.9 40 yard dash and is a full back. That's as dumb as giving anything but goal line and 3rd/4th and short carries to Mike Tolbert. Dennison is awful.

I'm all for continuity but the Bills problem isn't that they fire coaches too soon it's that they can't seem to identify a good coach. I'm not sold on McD to be honest.

He has been sacked 5 times all season. It helps to have a good Oline and actual NFL level receivers as well. What helps most is that Shurmer at least runs an offense that isn't antiquated. Dennison is so bad that this is the first time in his 22 year career that he has EVER called plays. What we need is an innovative OC. Someone who incorporates spread concepts with built in RPOs. McD should've brought and hired Ken Dorsey from Carolina. Dennison is horrible.

This is problem I have though honestly. He is above average but you're right that he can't carry a team on his shoulders. If you're being honest with yourself though there are only a handful of those guys in football anyway and I would even say maybe 2 quarterbacks in the entire league that can carry a team on their backs (Brady and Rodgers) and there is the end of the list. So you hitch your ship to a guy that can win you games by being accurate and not turning the ball over and you build around that guy. Taylor has 61 TDs in his Bills career with only 15 interceptions. He has a 62.9 completion %. He has suffered from poor defenses in his 3 years and a revolving door at OC. Dennison is the worst and most inept of the bunch. We need to build the team around him. Not gut the team of talent and scapegoat Taylor.

This is what makes me laugh about All-22 reviews where the writer will use only 3-4 plays from a game where 60+ plays were run. It's the ultimate cherry pick and a lot of people will eat it up and run with it one way or the other. Whatever fits their own personal agenda and narrative. Taylor is a good QB. Only in Buffalo is he not valued the way that he should be and I've lost all confidence in the current front office and coaching staff.

Anyone who voted for Peterman is absolutely insane. That kid stinks.

Didn't take you long to flip the script on Peterman. I told you that data doesn't lie. This is an excellent post btw. Taylor needs to come back for at least one more season and they need to use those draft picks filling out this awful roster. Going all in a on a QB this year is a horrible idea.

He also threw for more INTs in one half than Taylor threw ALL season. Peterman stinks.

With 5 interceptions in the 1st half (the most all time), I just want to say that "The data is the data" and once again is correct.

Most points the chargers have ever scored in the 1st half. Most rushing tds ever allowed last week against Saints. Also a franchise record for them. Benched a QB who was 5-4 with a 10-3 TD/INT ratio for a guy who throws 5 interceptions in the first half. Trades away all of our good players. This coach stinks.

This is too funny. Hope all the cawing for Peterman is over. Garbage time against the Saints vs starting a real game. Pretty obvious why the kid was a 5th rounder.

This is a joke. If we would have been out of playoff contention it was worth it but this is an absolute joke.

Who do I believe? Seems correct to me from my limited time here. I'll go with Billsfan1972

Yes. Actually I do believe velocity is a reason Taylor is on the bench. His inability to make throws into tight windows because of his velocity made him timid and risk averse. Small sample size is 6 games or 16 games not 9 years of data.

Well there are definitely other factors to take into account. I was NOT trying to imply that QB velocity is the end all be all. What I am saying is that the data shows clearly that any sub 55 passer hasn't had long term success. Like I said before, Taylor was a sub 55 velocity passer and he is now on the bench. This isn't to take shots at Peterman. I posted the data. The data shows that it isn't likely for him to be successful long term just as Taylor wasn't successful long-term. The fact that he was ALSO a 5th round pick doesn't bode well for him either. When you pair these things together it points to the Bills drafting a QB high in next Aprils draft.

I'm new to the board but I see a theme just from some of my reading. Something like "National Media member X says Taylor stinks" - board reaction becomes: yeah that's right, this guy actually watches the Bills and he gets it. Or "National Media member Z says that it isn't Taylors fault, the Oline is bad and the defense is a sieve". - board reaction becomes: no way, Taylor stinks. This guy doesn't watch the Bills or have his finger on the pulse of the team. It's all Taylor's fault. Peterman for prez. Does this seem correct?

Velocity and arm strength are not one in the same. I just want to point that out.

You're more than welcome to take the underdog in the face of the data side of the argument and I hope that you're right. That would mean that we could take the 5 picks that we have in the first 3 rounds and add young talent to a middling roster as opposed to packaging all those picks for a QB. It's not my narrative so chill out. It's pure unbiased data.

Do you not understand what the word outlier means? It's also entirely too early to say that Watson or Prescott are outliers. Watson especially. Prescott has a pretty great situation he is in. A top offensive line (the Bills still have a crap OL) and a top running game. Without his LT and his star RB last week, he looked horrendous. The data is there for everyone to see. Take what you want from it. Peterman being successful would be an absolute long shot. But that's ok because we have the ammunition to move up and draft Josh Rosen.