Dawgg

Vince Young is a "suckass" player. Don't make excuses for him. He led his team to the playoffs because he won a popularity contest. 5 game-winning drives in 1.5 seasons means nothing. And, best of all, the Bills' QBs had a better passer rating by a whole 1.2 points... therefore, their QBs are better than Vince Young. Entertainment at it's best!

So you know how to read a stat sheet. Congratulations... well, except that you conveniently left out the fact that he scored 7 touch downs on the ground. I don't care how a QB scores a TD -- whether he rushes for a touch down or passes for one, 6 points is 6 points. But of course, that stat won't fit into your boneheaded argument, so carry on with your drivel. I suppose Vince Young led his team to the playoffs because of the Pats* cheating scandal? Yeah it's a good thing the Bills offense had a QB rating that was a WHOLE 1.2 more than Vince Young. That did a whole lot to the team's won-loss record! Do you know the type of offense the Titans ran last season? They led the AFC in rushing attempts by a long shot -- so that should tell you where their emphasis lies. Do you really think VY had reliable receivers to throw to? If you do, you're even dumber than I thought. While the Bills had a first rounder and 3 second rounders in their receiving corps, the Titans relied on an aging Eric Moulds and a bunch of scrubs. Add to that the fact that he completed a higher percentage of passes than the Bills' QB duo and the fact that he threw for more first downs, which means he kept drives alive and moved the ball -- you have to be an absolute idiot to classify Vince Young as a "suckass player." Nevertheless, it's par for the course coming from you Oh, and by the way, you know who led the league in interceptions? Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning -- guess he sucks too!!! Yeah ya really got me there... what a beat down... you're right JP Losman is better than Vince Young.

Those true colors are really bad! 5 game winning drives. 1 Pro Bowl appearance Rookie of the Year 1 Playoff Appearance 18-11 record as a starter. ... all despite having less than stellar receiving targets.

Yes, because our group of DTs was a very special group. So special that the starting DT got cut. Raking up stats when you're part of a below-average unit is not really something to brag about -- but I suppose you feel differently. John DiGiorgio was second on the team in tackles and first in fumble recoveries -- he filled in admirably for Poz... that's not to say he's a starting-caliber player. McCargo still has yet to distinguish himself as a first round pick. Danieal Manning's contributions to the Bears far surpass those of John McCargo -- couple that with the fact that Manning was a 3rd round pick, the Bears got the better end of the deal THUS FAR. If McCargo tears it up this year? Then we'll be having a different conversation. I never said he's a bad player. I simply said he has yet to distinguish himself -- and that's a fact. Really? I have. And regurgitate all the stats you want, he's not as good as Bob Sanders. He's a pretty good player though. So hold onto that #20 jersey!

Patsy troll, nice one! You never cease to impress. - Vince Young sucks. - Donte Whitner is an elite player. What else do they teach you at that fine academic institution called FSU?

I agree with what you say... I just have a problem with the argument that implies that Whitner was the only option and losing out on him would have been a setback.

Watch the games. In his first year as a starter, Bob Sanders played like a budding star, and established himself as one of the top safeties in the AFC. While I think Whitner has been good, I don't think he's played at quite that level. Maybe Sanders had a better supporting cast, maybe it's because Whitner had more responsibility. While the stats maybe similar, I think Sanders' play, early in his career, was a solid notch or two above Whitner's.

Bears win out on that trade thus far. McCargo has hardly distinguished himself during his NFL tenure and Manning has been a pretty solid contributor for the Bears, having started most of their games last year at safety, forcing 4 fumbles and playing very good special teams. Meanwhile, McCargo has yet to get past #2 on the depth chart. Let's see what Dusty D and McCargo do this year.

It was plainly obvious in 2006 that the draft was one of the deepest in years. It was also plainly obvious in 2006 that if the Bills traded down and happened to lose out on the Donte Whitner sweepstakes, there were plenty of excellent players available. Perhaps it wasn't obvious to you, but that's no surprise. But hey -- I am stoked that he's letting McKelvin stay with him... a very nice gesture. Now it would be nice to see him make some plays

Oh the horror! God forbid they traded down and some other team took Whitner. There would of course be no talented players available to choose from at other positions. Safety was an absolute must, given that was the only hole the team had, coming off an abysmal season. Thank goodness we didn't get stuck with the likes of Antonio Cromartie, Tamaba Hali, Davin Joseph, or Mangold.

The vast majority of his pass attempts were short dink-and-dunk routes. When the Bills did go long, it was when defenses knew it was coming -- 3rd and long situations; at the end of the game with no time outs, etc...

Touche! Hey, I'm too much of a realist/pessimist for my own good. We'll see about good ole Dusty, as he's starting alongside Tommie Harris this year (who should be a Bill, btw!)

I know, right? Since I actually kind-of agreed with with you, I took some extra time to evaluate whether or not I was actually being objective or if I was just blindly spewing optimism, as you have done each and every offseason that preceded abysmally mediocre football by the Bills.

How many deep balls did you see Edwards throw? I didn't see that many, so I find it hard to draw a conclusion on his ability/inability to throw the ball deep. Deep routes certainly weren't a staple of the offense last year. Moreover, it took Tom Brady a few years to add the deep ball to his arsenal, so I wouldn't necessarily fret that Trent didn't have a rocket arm in his rookie year. Two throws that did catch my eye: the deep ball he threw to Lee Evans in December against Miami and the 30 yard pass he threw at Washington to Josh Reed -- both throws required considerable arm strength and he executed them quite well all things considered. Expect opposing defenses to take away the underneath routes and FORCE Edwards to throw that deep ball the Bills claim we will see so much of. And if Edwards can't beat them with that deep ball, he is going to get a face full of blitzes and end up where he has been so often in his college and pro career....injured and on the sideline. Of course he has work to do physically. But I'd rather have a QB who excels at the mental part of the game, makes the right decisions QUICKLY and doesn't make mistakes than the classic rocket-armed QB who has all the physical tools but makes too many mental errors. I've seen plenty of that with Bledsoe and Losman. This guy has a chance, let's see what he makes of it.

... and the text messages he sent to Bills' security personnel at 3AM also don't prove he "knew" he hit her.

This is true. I don't necessarily agree that drafting DT early is the one and only key to success. But, I will say this: if you have a choice between a disruptive DT and a speedy WR, you take the disruptive DT ten times over... for example, Tommie Harris vs. Lee Evans.

... and you continue to drink whatever kool-aid is served to you by the Bills' front office. Now that must make them happy!

Well said. Yards are yards... if he rushes for 100 yards and throws for 250, he's still moving the ball. Some people are so enamored with the pocket passing QB, they can't recognize a rare talent (like Vince Young & Vick) if it was staring them right in the face. And to add to the irony, those SAME people are standing up in defense of Marshawn Lynch, who hit someone and drove off. Goes to show that their hatred for Vick goes a bit deeper than the mistakes he made... In any case, the outcry and level of hatred spewed at Vick for making a mistake was rather disproportionate, especially when put in context of what other NFL players have done off the football field.

Therein lies the problem. There was not a WR on the board worth taking at #11. Not a single NFL-bound receiver was worth taking that high and 32 NFL teams agreed with that fundamental, basic notion. Yet you would have been fine had the Bills reached on a wide receiver? Thank God the Bills brass played it right this time around. I was actually truly convinced (and fearful) they'd reach on a WR at #11.

Just like you may find my assessment of certain players donning red, white and blue to be overly harsh, I find your assessment that Vick & Young aren't "real NFL QBs" to be a bit harsh. These guys have led their teams to the playoffs and won some pretty big games at the NFL level and they didn't ride the coat tails of a suffocating defense the way Grossman has. Of course a QB needs to be able to "make the throws" and he can't rely on his feet all the time. But Vince Young, to me, has shown the ability to make pretty solid decisions in the passing game -- now if only they'd surround him with a few targets not named Bo Scalfe. And as for JP, it's another classic Rob Johnson case -- wows you one minute, kills you the next with a boneheaded mistake. The season is too short (and too expensive) to wait for the light to click. Edwards, in his rookie season, showed some great decision-making skills in just his first year. Hell on his first ever series against the Patriots on the road he put together a TD drive. I can't wait to see what this guy can do with a full year under his belt.

No, you said that. But I crossed out any reference to race. Does that make you feel better? Good.

He might not be what YOU think is a real NFL QB. In your world, all African American QBs who are prolific rushers and don't pass for 300 yards a game aren't "real" QBs -- I get that, given your feelings on Vick and now Vince Young. ... but then again, your blind homeristic defense for JP Losman speaks volumes about your inability to assess QB play.

Wrong on 2 counts. 1. He was sentenced for financing and participating in dogfighting, not anything else. 2. Had he cooperated, his sentence would have been 12-18 months. Because he didn't it, ended up being 23 months.

He got the opposite of special treatment. He was sent to prison and blacklisted by the NFL because of pressures mounted by PETA, one of the most politically motivated, grandstanding organizations ever. Hmm... Vick hurt dogs (which is a very bad thing) and gets 1-2 years in prison. Leonard Little drives drunk, with a .2 BAC, and kills a 47 year old mother (which is much worse) and gets 90 days in jail. Yeah justice makes a whole lot of sense there. At least PETA is happy.

Expand out all the records you want, calculate the percentages until the cows come home -- bottom line: they have led their teams to the playoffs very early in their careers. Your point about Peerless Price is a pretty poor one, given that Price was the #1 receiver in Atlanta and the #2 receiver in Buffalo -- BIG difference.