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7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
This isn’t shocking. McCarthy isn’t very good. He was the guy, this year, that everyone used as the smokescreen. He was the guy that people kept hearing “would go higher than expected” and “possibly top 3.” In the end he was the 5th QB drafted.
People believed that the Pats might take him at 3 and that the Vikings, Giants and even Chargers, might trade up for him. In the end the Vikings offered 3 firsts for Maye over just taking McCarthy. The Patriots turned down 3 firsts and just took Maye. The Charger (wisely) stayed put, selected Alt, and kept Herbert. The Giants took the stud receiver. The Vikings waited and eventually got McCarthy. I wonder though if they would have actually taken Penix instead had he been there at 11?
Agree about McCarthy. Watched a few of his games and really couldn't shake the Mac Jones vibe. I think he's at best a game manager that won't throw the team on his back and carry them to wins, but isn't going to set the world on fire.
Of course, unlike Mac, McCarthy falls into about the perfect situation for a rookie QB to grow and develop. As opposed to Jones who ended up with an older defensive minded coach, a DC as his OC and a ST coordinator as his QB coach and severely lacked weapons to throw to...JJ gets a young offensive minded HC, possibly the best WR in the game, Addison and Hockenson to throw to.
Whatever McCarthy is going to be in the NFL he's in the best possible place to be the best version of what he could be. If that ends up good enough remains to be seen...but there's really no excuses for him if he flames out
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13 hours ago, NORWOODS FOOT said:
I found it interesting the way he spoke about Leggette. I get the vibe that they really liked him as well.
He also mentioned that at 28 there were guys on both offense and defense that were ranked pretty close across the board. The only player drafted between 28 and 33 that was defense was the CB Wiggins. So I believe WR would have still been the pick at 28 because I don't see him going CB there.
After the Bills pick, the Chargers took McConkey and then 8 of 9 of the next picks were on defense. DTs Orhorhoro (who was a top 30 visit IIRC), Newton, Sweat and Fiske were in that group as well as DeJean and a few other CBs. So it's possible some of the other players they had in that group were from this list.
It's also possible seeing the list of players that were selected around Coleman and hearing that they were all closely graded that when the Bills took Coleman they were out of first round grades players on their board...which makes the 2 trade backs better IMO.
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8 hours ago, GreggTX said:
We drafted a few OL in later rounds, but this was a deep draft for OL talent. What does the future look like? Will our OL be better than ever? They looked good last year, but not great. I think Josh's mobility made them look much better like when Flutie played vs Rob Johnson the sack magnet. Will we run a little more perhaps?
What's your prediction a couple years out?
With his contract extension Dawkins is pretty much locked in this year and next. The first potential "out" in the deal would be prior to the 2026 season where he would be 32 and could be let go with around a $9M dead cap hit. So depending on how we sit cap wise then they may make a move with him like they did Morse this year and get younger/cheaper at the position. McGovern will still be 28 in 2026 and if his play stays at the level it is I can see them keeping him with a new deal. So headed into the 2026 season I see:
LT: ?
LG: McGovern
😄 Van Pran
RG: Torrence
RT: ?
I think who the tackles are depends on a variety of things. Yes, we nabbed a couple OT projects this year and one or both could always pan out. But I actually think Ryan Van Demark has a legitimate chance to be the successor to Dion at LT. The Bills really like what he brings when he's in there. He doesn't fare as well at RT so he'll have to get better there to remain on the roster as a swing tackle until the LT job opens IMO.
RT: I have no idea how that pans out. I think they really like Brown, though and would not be shocked if he's signed to a fair deal. Next year we have the ability to sit pretty well cap wise with Groot and Brown being the big names that are due. They'll have money for it.
So by 2026 as it sits right nowI see the OL shaping up as:
LT: Van Demark
LG: McGovern
😄 Van Pran
RG: Torrence
RT: Brown
And if Van Demark continues to show as well as he did in limited snaps last year I like that line a LOT.
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This is the sneakiest Tre Edmunds thread I've seen here. Kudos.
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No, but wouldn't be opposed to bringing Slye in for a camp leg/kicking competition. He's got a strong leg.
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9 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:
Did we draft a LB because there is some concern by management about Milano’s health?
This is just my opinion, but if there was much concern about Milano's recovery I think they may have addressed the position before the 5th round. Waiting until day 3, to me at least, is the first sign that he may be closer than they are letting on.
Milano's whole injury and timeline to recovery seems to be one of the best kept secrets/need to know basis injuries I can remember in recent Bills history so I understand why some may question what's going on with his recovery.
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6 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
We may need to as the 5th year option for Groot is 13 mill I think.
Unless I'm mistaken I don't believe any of the 5th year option money hits until next year.
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28 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
I will always go on record as saying it was imperative to double dip in last week's wr rich draft. We won't see that deep of a wr draft for awhile. And all of this is amplified by losing Diggs/Davis. We had realistic bites at the apple with Thomas, Mitchell, Leggette, McConkey, Franklin & Walker. I'll give Keon the benefit of the doubt and completely ignore his 40. I've been told by half this board that 40 times are irrelevant. But we still needed that 2nd rookie wr. If for no other reason as insurance if Hollins, Hamler, Shorter, Shavers, Cephus flame out. We all saw how useless Sherfield and Harty were last season.
I get what you're saying and agree with a lot of it. I absolutely get the thought process.
The main place where I'll zig where your zag is with the bolded. It seems just going off the top of my head I've heard...I'll say 3 out of the last 5 years that the "WR class is special this year. We may not see one like this for a long long time" and then wash/rinse/repeat a year or two later.
It really does seem the college game is producing NFL caliber WRs at a pretty good clip.
The other thing that at least makes sense in my mind is that while Beane pretty much flat out said there would be no WR trade anytime in the foreseeable future...we have a LOT of draft picks for 2025. It's plausible to me that if the WR room is hampering the offense early this year, he may move that extra second rounder for a proven guy. He has made trade deadline moves the last 2 years.
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The name that leaps off the page to pay attention to for me is Emmanuel Ogbah. Not that I'm advocating for him. But 2 years ago Beane made him an offer that he almost took (verified by Ogbah himself). And Beane has a long history of circling back to guys he missed out on previously. Should be able to be had cheap. If not and they feel DE help is still needed Shaq Lawson may likely be back.
I'm going to scratch the big names at WR off the list. For me Corey Davis seems like a Beane type gamble as well. Retired last year and looking to get back. He would be my candidate for annual "training camp retiree" we seem to have as well.
I'm also wondering if Micah decided to play again if they bring him back on a low deal.
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Wow. For sure this means they are the favorites to win the Super Bowl now, right?
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The CBS Sunday Pregame's window is closed
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No brainier to me.
Hopefully we get to see what he can do without foot/ankle problems for an entire season. He seems to start off great year in and year out before some kind of injury hampers him.
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Good episode.
Glad to see Moulds staying active. Shakir working with him can only pay dividends. He seems like a good kid. Very hard working and likable. Have to lose a tad bit of respect over the way he likes his steak...but he seems to have married well.
His wife was the star of the show. Makes dad jokes and isn't afraid to grill? How that translates to year 3 development remains to be seen. Well done, Khalil.
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Keyon has to be faster then Keon. Right?
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29 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
Agree with the first part of that, but Allen's metrics got notably worse last season under Brady. That's not debatable.
His completion percentage, which should have gone up given how McBrady used him, decreased significantly. His TD production also plummeted.
If that pace continues for this season, he'd finish with about 4,100 passing yards and 24 passing TDs, which would be his worst showing since before he became good, since 2019 essentially when many were calling for the team to move on from him to add some perspective.
His rating was worse, substantially worse, than it's been since 2019. 85.5, which on the season would have ranked 23rd, just behind Justin Fields and ahead of absolutely no one of consequence.
All those ranting about how we improved under Brady are hallucinating. But we enjoy our hallucinations though.
In short, the reality is that McBrady are moving him in the opposite direction from where he should be going.
You mean his stats went down later in the season as weather worsened, his #1 receiver disappeared and his #2 WR ended up not playing due to injury? Shocking.
His TD passing numbers went down (yet he still ran for a bunch...but we shall discount that because....reasons). Buffalo also faced a Dallas defense that required Josh to basically not have anything as far as stats. But let's discount that as well.
Numbers are great but they never tell the whole story. Numbers often scratch the surface of what's happening. It's the "why" the numbers are what they are that add context and meaning. The only number you offer is his "rating" which I find a poor way to evaluate a QB in this era. The top 5 QBs last year in rating were Purdy, Prescott, Tua, Lamar and Stroud. Unless you think those are the best 5 QBs in the NFL...it says something for how the rating system works, doesn't it?
Metrics are nice and there is absolutely a place for them when reviewing a player. But it's part of the puzzle.
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Bills-Steelers from 2022.
The game where Gabe Davis had the 98 yard TD along with the 62 yard TD. His best regular season performance. Josh went over 400 yards passing. We smack the Steelers and their new QB Kenny Pickett 38-3. That whole game was a party in the stands.
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Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:
Someone posted a link yesterday, Josh only attempted I think 12 or 13 passes over 50 yards all year. Mahomes attempted less.
Look I get it, everyone wants the deep ball and it will happen from last time to time, but it's not a consistency thing. Let Josh get the ball to guys short and medium most of the time, let them get YAC and have sustained drives that end in scoring. It's what KC and SF does.
Yes Josh has one of the strongest arms in THE NFL, but so did Elway. Elway didn't win a superbowl until he ran Shanahans WCO. He let the running game help a ton with both scheme and Davis, and distributed the ball. He let his WR'S get RAC. and that did open up deeper shots.
Yeah, a lot of people see "arm strength" as being the same as being a deep ball thrower. It's not. I've never seen Josh as being particularly great at throwing deep passes that are on the mark. He'll hit some but many are off target.
Josh's arm strength is apparent in the way that he can fit the ball into smaller windows later in the play than others can. It's the pop in the pass that gets the ball to his guy on a 15 yard out way faster than most QBs. After watching Josh it sometimes feel other guys are throwing lobs.
Also due to modern defense and the way teams have moved more to the 2 deep shell against QBs that pose the big play threat like Allen and Mahomes...the opportunity for the deep play just aren't available. Trying against that look results in the outcome we saw week 1 against the Jets. Incompletions and "arm punts".
So what's our offensive philosophy? It's going to have to be working the short to intermediate. Staying patient. And if an opportunity for a big play presents itself...to identify and take advantage. And Josh played some of the best ball of his career down the stretch last year doing just that.
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1 minute ago, NoSaint said:
I don’t think he will be targeted 40 yards downfield a ton but I do think he will be asked to run plenty of crossers, etc… in addition to those deep routes.
I also hope occasionally he will catch the ball short and be asked to run a long distance
Yeah, he's got some YAC ability. And he looks to be tough to bring down in the open field. Pretty intense guy that stays on his feet for extra yards...doesn't slide down in front of tacklers.
He and Allen are going to feed off each others energy on the field. Looking forward to see what he does
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If he's healthy, I see Kincaid. Biggest shocker IMO is going to be that NONE of the Bills pass catchers will go over 1,000. But they end up with 5 guys all over 650yards.
This year IMO will be all about spreading the ball and not being predictable. When a big play is needed...look for a mismatch and exploit it
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1 hour ago, Heitz said:
The kid seems to have the right attitude. Loved his presser too. 🤣
I think it'll all be in how they use him - without the speed, how do you scheme him up to highpoint some balls on the sidelines? Which, BTW seems like like an Allen special, after breaking contain. 💨
It'll definitely be interesting to see what happens when the games start. How DOES this kid work out despite all of the opinions? Let's hope he and Josh get together, get that relationship going, start getting work in - I'm rooting for him!
Yeah, that's my thing. I don't believe he's going to be asked to run straight line deep routes very much. So how does Brady use him and what can they do to incorporate what he does do well. Out routes? Hook routes? I think he's going to feast in that 11-20 yard range...and I don't think anyone is going to out hustle or out work him to the ball.
That was always a big complaint I had with Gabe Davis. Seemed like far too often when a DB got position on him to make a play on the ball Gabe was a bit passive. Resulted it a fairly high INT% when targeted. I don't see that problem with Coleman.
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Man , this debate brings back memories of the whole Stevie Johnson..is he a TRUE #1 receiver or just the guy with the most targets debate from years ago😂
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37 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
Interesting that we took two of them. Definitely weren’t happy with HartyTrue, but I don't foresee them using Coleman in the return game too often if at all. He'll have a good size role on offense to prepare for every week IMO.
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1 minute ago, VW82 said:
I always have to laugh when defenses play zone vs us. Josh excels vs zone. Diggs and Beasley were always so good finding soft spots. Kincaid is obviously really good vs zone. Anyone dumb enough to try and zone us deserves what they get.To be fair sometimes it's a double edge sword. Play zone and Josh can find the soft spot....but everyone on defense is facing the QB and can react if Allen runs.
Play man and most of your defense turns to run with their guy and no one has eyes on Allen...and he bucks for 20 yards. Pick your poison.
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Realistic "Transition Year" Expectations
in The Stadium Wall
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Nothing changes with expectations. I expect the Bills to compete for and win the AFCE. I expect them to be one of the final 4 teams in the AFC competing for the Super Bowl. What happens after this season into next off-season depends on the results of this year.