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17 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:
Pretty much every OC has flaws and bad play calls.
I don't think any fan base actually likes their OC. Even the chiefs are sick of Andy lol.
Daboll is a proven good play caller in this league who has a great relationship with Josh. I would rather him than someone like Davis Webb who has no experience calling plays
I have always been on team "experienced play caller" I like guys that have done the job before. My thinking may have changed a bit since Thursday night. That defense that got 28 pressures and 8 sacks? Being run by a first time play caller. It definitely shows having a guy that is right for the job is more important as having a guy that's done the job before.
Daboll is absolutely not a good play caller. He showed that here when he would abandon the run early. He showed that in NY when he took play calling over from Kafka last year that he hasn't learned anything.
He's an OC that has been terrible throughout his career except for a very small blip when he had Allen and Diggs. He's Freddie Kitchens without the folksy charm.
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13 minutes ago, Einstein said:
No, they all have warts. Every single one of them. If you dont realize that, then you aren't watching enough football of other teams.
Daboll is a top end OC.Lmao. No he is not. He had a few great years with Allen and Diggs. Literally every other season he's been an OC he was bottom end.
If you don't realize that, then you aren't watching enough football of other teams
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1 minute ago, Einstein said:
I haven't forgotten.
This isn't an issue of people thinking "Daboll is perfect". This is "Daboll has his warts, but his warts are WAY less harmful than Brady's warts".You do realize you don't have to pick an OC with ugly nasty warts, right? I hope you don't choose women like you would an OC.
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14 hours ago, Psautcsk said:
This is fascinating. What team really wanted Cooks?
The Tennessee Titans have the chance to do the funniest thing ever.
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On 6/23/2024 at 8:27 AM, Thurman#1 said:
Deeper, yes, I think that's completely legit.
Better? Without Diggs? No, absolutely not, unless somebody like Coleman or Claypool takes a huge step up. But could they be a functional efficient group that can move the ball and give defenses a lot of trouble? Yeah, I think so, particularly with Josh throwing to them and a run game that threatens.
Wonder what he's up to these days. Kinda shocked they haven't revisited him being here as McDermott and Beane had a lot of glowing things to say about him.
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1 minute ago, SCBills said:
Unless CIN runs the table, they shouldn’t be an issue for us. 10-7 is probably the line and unless we lose three in a row, we’ll have the tiebreaker over PIT & BAL and/or knocked CIN down to 8 losses with a tie-breaker over them.Im pulling for them to beat NE, not only for the faint hope of the AFCE, but I also want that game on Thursday with Burrow & Chase returning to have as much juice as possible. It’s do or die for them either way, but looking at schedules, even more real coming off a win.
My rooting interests for the rest of the season are basically Bills get in and Baltimore, KC get left out. If NE beats CIN, I’m probably to the point where I’d root for them to beat Baltimore, because I wouldn’t see them losing to the Giants, Jets or Dolphins.
Yeah, I really think there is no "wrong way" to look at it. I think it's based now on if you see a path to the division still for the Bills. I see the path, but I don't have confidence the Bills will be able to take it. I'm out on our division title opportunity and focused on Wild Card.
As such I just don't want a Cincinnati team that still feels like they can make the playoffs. They already lost 3 in a row and could easily drop the next two to New England and Baltimore before facing us. I would love that for them.
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15 hours ago, Seventeen said:
If you don't believe Beane has delivered the proper offensive personnel, then 2nd on offense is a minor miracle. Would Daboll have prevented the 8 sacks
Josh took ? The D is definitely in worse shape than Brady's O.
Well, he is a beefy fellow and I don't think he would have done any worse then Brown did at RT. I say, give him a jersey.
13 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:Why is this still a thing? McD and Bills have adamantly shut this down - not that anyone needed them too, everyone and their mom knows they don't get along. Might as well speculate the tooth fairy is going to join the coaching staff too as they have about the same odds.
Ok, but hear me out.
Tooth Fairy covers A LOT of ground quickly every night. One would think she could be a good deep threat. Slide her into the role that made for Mecole Hardman and I think we may have something.
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2 hours ago, Kincaid Kool-Aid said:
Hard to believe we sit here in week 12 and both the #1 seed and division are all but out of reach, Instead, we find ourselves jockeying through the muck of a competitive wild card race...Lots of ways to look at week 12 rooting interests given our current predicament. Who you got?
- Steelers/Bears - go Yinzers. Keep the pressure on Baltimore for the division (Ravens should easily handle the Jets today). We can hopefully handle our business with them next week and earn our head-to-head tiebreaker
- Giants/Lions - don't care
- Jets/Ravens - go Jets, but chances of them beating the Ravens on the road are 0%
- Patriots/Bengals - Bengals of course but hard to see a win without idiot Chase
- Vikings/Packers - don't care
- Colts/Chiefs - as stated above, the 1 (and even #2) seed is all but out of reach for the Bills, so I'm not worried about "catching" the Colts anymore - we just need to hang on for dear life for a WC spot. Chiefs lose this game and their chances of even making it to the playoffs takes a major hit. Screw Kermit and Kelce. Give me the COLTS!
- Seahawks/Titans - don't care
- Jags/Cards - conflicted on this one as we are in direct competition with the Jags for WC positioning. While the Colts have a brutal remaining schedule, not sure I see the Jags leapfrogging them for the division. Part of me wants the Jags to win to keep ahead of KC & Baltimore for that last spot, the other is worried if they stack too many wins and we drop more stupid games, they could box us out of the playoffs
- Browns/Raiders - how depressing is this one? Guess we'll see if Shedeur flashes any potential? Sure hope not, as after the Texans debacle I can see their D steamrolling our O when we play them in December and us losing if they can find even remotely competent QB play.
- Eagles/Cowboys - screw Jerry (also, thanks for giving us picks for Elam lol)
- Falcons/Saints - meh.
- Bucs/Rams - give me the Bucs for strength of schedule, but hard to see them going into LA and beating the Rams with how banged up they are
- Panthers/49ers - see Bucs/Rams - give me Carolina for strength of schedule...
Honestly, if you really feel the division is out of reach (I do at this point) I'm pushing for the Pats over the Bengals. Keep them pushed down and out of the hunt.
Likewise, I'm pushing for the Cards over the Jags to keep the Jags down lower.
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2 hours ago, WIDE LEFT said:
Not one to excuse poor performances, but we do have a top notch O line and yet Texans shredded them. It does strike me that some of our O lineman are getting up there in age, and these Thursday night games are tough on older players. And Brown was hurt. In any event, on O or D it was the older players who struggled the most. Especially against a younger Texan team playing at home. With all the negativity re: Bills, can’t be.ieve this wasn’t a factor.
THURSDAY NIGHT football speaks volumes of the insatiable greed of NFL owners, most of whom have already made billions in franchise appreciation. Never enough for some, especially with JERRY JONES leading the greed charge
Brown was getting slapped around before he got hurt. Dion Dawkins just doesn't seem to care about anything except donuts and his "Schnow Brand".
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1 minute ago, NoName said:
There is on Facebook (I tried uploading it but the screen grab is too large) and I can't post the link. But it shows an alleged direct quote from Daboll. He says the following:
"Buffalo is where I built the best years of my coaching career. I know the system that fits Josh Allen, and I know how to get this offense back to where it was. If the opportunity ever came...We could do it again."
What do y'all think?
I said it in another thread and I'll repeat it. Bringing Daboll back would be like going back to your ex...only to be reminded quickly why they are your ex.
They guy was just as frustrating as Brady. The same tendency to call those cute plays at the wrong time. He would frequently abandon the run. No thank you. Let's get someone with a fresh outlook.
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2 hours ago, cwater10 said:
Agree 100%. He has quietly lost a degree of suddenness. He gets caught now. That never used to happen. I think that is to be expected as 30 rolls into view. I've been noticing this all year. Sobering, but he has to learn to play a bit differently going forward.
That's why I don't buy the whole "they coached it out of him"
Guy has taken a beating most years. He knows how he plays. I think a large part of him staying in the pocket is him trying to save mileage on his body. He knows how he feels.
Now he just needs guys that can get open for him so he doesn't have to hang onto the ball so long. Or an OC that can call quick hitters that aren't bubble screens.
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9 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:
Wanted to keep it fairly recent, but you are correct. Dobler was the Godfather of dirty players. Never denied the accusations and relished the reputation as such.
As proof to your comment, his self written autobiography is titled "They Called Me Dirty"
And it was a very good read.
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11 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:
Then I guess you've never watched:
Vontaze Burfict
Albert Haynesworth
Rodney Harrison
Vince Wilfork
Ndamukong Suh
Bill Romanowski
They would've ended Allen and celebrated.
10 hours ago, PonyBoy said:You're probably missing a few more names, but that's a good starting list.
Those are somewhat recent, let alone old school boys.
The lost of dirty player starts and ends with our very own Conrad Dobler. Anyone else is just an amateur in comparison.
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1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said:
He was clapping
He a natural. Maybe it's him and not Josh that will demand a trade to the Rams for more movie roles
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6 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Ugh McDermott was just on there.
He called a time out, didn't he?
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8 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:
Forget not Occam's razor and its corollary -The Complexity Paradox
“We are great at handling complexity until things get really, really complex.”
I don't see the sailboat
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The Browns and Chiefs have already scheduled Top-30 visits with the assailants.
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2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:
Did anyone happen to notice the mess Daboll just left in New Jersey? The guy’s a certified lunatic. No thanks. I’d rather let Ronald Curry call the plays if they move on from Brady.
Absence makes the heart grow fonder. I can't believe how many people forget how frustrating he was here. Would frequently abandon the run. Wayyyyyy to many "cute" play calls. This would be like someone going back to their ex because they are going through a dry spell....only to remember EXACTLY why she's your ex to begin with
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1 hour ago, Steptide said:
I've said it multiple times, and I'll keep saying it - it was completely ignorant of Beane or McDermott to think last year's offense was sustainable. Imagine after the 2017 season when we finally broke the drought, if Beane or McDermott was happy with that and just continued with that team. I don't know why they thought going into this season with the current offense was gonna work. Thinking Coleman would be become "the guy" was way too big of a risk
That was a big risk. I also think they severely overestimated what Joshua Palmer would bring to the offense. To their credit they look to be right on Kincaid improving when healthy because he's looked awesome when remotely healthy. The caveat there of course being he hasn't stayed healthy.
1 hour ago, colin said:And no designed an runs. When a front runs up the field and the DBS are in man, Allen can go for a quick hitter run and do damage.
The fundamental strategy was poor all night, mainly because Houston very often knew what we were running because we refuse to disguise and break tendencies
The only pass play where I felt like we got em was the 4th and 27 hook and ladder. That was really some stuff our defense would give up on that spot.
Also, it's hard to call designed runs for Allen when Houston did what they did. They kept amazing gap integrity. They didn't rush Allen as much as walk the pocket back into his lap. And they knew they had time because our guys couldn't get open.
1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:
I don’t think it’s that.
I think the way teams are spying him is working and for some reason we don’t have a counter to it.
Sobering realization:
Allen isn’t 24 anymore and can out run those spies with a move or a stiff arm thru the ground.
We better figure this out quick. Been said 1000x we are wasting his prime with this sad collection of talent around him.
1 minute in - watch number 0 spy Allen
Watch all the plays. Spy.
I don’t think Josh is sure he’s going to out run them.I know people are going to knee jerk react to what I'm about to say here. You're spot on. He's not the same with his mobility as he used to be. I know people want to point at Brady and McDermott, but Allen himself is most to blame here. It's his body and he knows how he feels. When he does run, he never has had what I would call a light running style. Even going back to Wyoming....hits have started adding up. It likely takes him a lot longer to heal than it used to. I think physically, we are closer to the end of his mobility than most of us realize.
1 hour ago, CirclnWagons said:Seems a regression in o line protection plus Josh having the weight of a non functional offense on his shoulders coupled with wr’s who can’t get separation is taking it’s toll
Several times this year Allen has set personal records for most time from snap to throw. Houston is an extreme case...by he's having to hold the ball longer because...wait for it....no one can get open. And Brady makes the issue worse by calling long developing mesh concepts.
Now, mesh is great because it is what we wanted...see the scheme get people open. But they didn't have the time for that Thursday.
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2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:
Allen was running around and backwards like a rookie. I am not putting most of it on him but, why would he think he’s going to be able to turn his back to Anderson and Hunter and spin away from those guys? I thought he’d at least figure it out by halftime but he kept doing it!
He was running for his life. Literally.
2 hours ago, boater said:I think what we are witnessing is we have a subpar Quarterbacks coach.
Allen is in his head, that is not a good thing. He needed someone to tell him during the game to throw away the ball. He needed a mind adjustment in real time, not days later during film review.
He didn't have time to set his feet and throw before the pressure was in on him.
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38 minutes ago, dcinmuncie said:
Um no Billy. That’s slanderous
beating up women is a chiefs prerequisite
don’t you know anything ? 🙂
Ah that's right. The robbers are their super fans. My bad all. That's...that one's on me.
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7 minutes ago, HOUSE said:
If he can rob a liquor store this weekend Cleveland might sign him
Robbery seems more like a Chiefs prerequisite.
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Classy move from a vet player if done on purpose.
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9 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:
^^^ i don't want a GM thats taking this job with McD on board.
Maybe you hire gm - he picks coach ORRR hire coach, he picks GM. But any GM taking this job with McD here is already starting off on a bad foot and in a power imbalance
Honest to God, I know we wont.... but id prefer we lose a bunch the rest of this season.
IR these guys and dont risk anything further. Blow up the staff in off season, or bare minimum get serious about bringing in real coordinators.
Id genuinely prefer we miss playoffs. We need the better draft picks. If we can we basically start the 're-load' early, and that might help us next year, but at worse re opens 2027 as a true window.
1. Move Kincaid if we feel hes near peak value. We cant keep extending injury prone players.
2. Move Big Ed. This again salary + injuries Move.
3. Knox. Gone. Milano gone.
4. Shop Torrence. I could be convinced either way depending on what the return would be.
5. Shop Shakir. Hes a nice player, but hes a fancy tier 1, #3. We dont have a number 1 or 2. Gotta do what ever it takes to get those. We won't be able to get tier 1 for both the boundary spots... draft one and trade for one is probably the way to plug those.
6. Shop Dawkins. I hate it, thats my dude.. no thats not because of false starts. Hes no spring chicken, hes salary is starting to climb right around the time his play level is going to start to dip. Idk what kinda value hed bring, but id quietly find out.
The good news? Bishop is gunna be fantastic. Benford rebounding it feels like. Hairston looks good out there, after a mega abbreviated TC, missing 10 games (pre season wouldve helped him too). concussion makes me a lil nervous, but that's probably more my Bills ptsd than a valid concern right now (btw... did Cole Bishop dish that out to him? I saw him friendly fire at least once last night lol)
Im not at 5 star alarm on Bernard, ive watched him super close last 2 games, and hes only out there because everyone else is beat up.
Dude cant run right now, looks like some variation of lower body injury, the kind that sucks but fine long term. Let's hope we can get 14-15 really solid games a year outta him, hes a plus player.
Im frustrated, but not enough to be irrational like other L's. I think these are all pretty even keeled ideas.
Were not gunna trade kincaid, Oliver, Shakir and Torrence in an off season, but id hard shop Dalton & Oliver... kick around idea of 1 of the other 2.
Approximate Dead Cap hits if traded:
Dawkins: $27M
Oliver: $21.5M
Shakir: $14.7M
Around $63M in dead cap to trade these three you mentioned.
Not to mention we are scheduled to have dead cap hits next year for:
Milano: $11M
Bosa: $7M
Plus a few others. Oh, and we only have like 45 players under contract for next year as it is. We are looking north of $22M in dead cap next year to comply with void years. So in your plan we take on around $85M in dead cap, and have to fill about 10-12 spots on the roster with league minimum guys. Plus have money for draft picks, a practice squad and replenish the roster in season due to injury.
How are you fielding a team?
Daboll Fired
in The Stadium Wall
Posted
Is it overrated when your biggest offensive threat this year has been your superstar running back?
You really think Daboll got hired as the Giants HC because he was a great play caller? Please. That was Schoen trying to bring in a coach he knows. Recreate the Bills method. And there are plenty of guys that have won a HC job being not the best play caller or someone who has ever called plays. Look at Mike McDaniel.
If you want to see how great an offensive mind Brian Daboll is, look at his time with the Giants in the window he called the plays. Look at his years in the league with any other team he's been on. I cannot wait til he's hired someplace else and people see him fail there too. Daboll's success is a product of Josh Allen.