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3 hours ago, HappyDays said:
Not that I'm happy to see Benford likely miss this game, but the upside is that we'll probably see Hairston in a full time role. I'm excited to see what that looks like. It's been a while since a Bills rookie has been a legit difference maker. Beane may have found 2-3 from this class.
I think this is absolutely the week he should see a lot more snaps. He sticks to his man well. But, he also has the speed for when he plays to make up a lot of ground after the ball leaves a QBs hands. They way Tua under throws his targets from time to time...Max is in good position to nab another INT off Tua
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Jordan Poyer is laughing hysterically right now...
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31 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
This is just a thought. In Joe Marino's All-22 this week he pointed out that Hoecht and Williams were being used in a similar manner. I understand that Williams is about 30 lbs lighter than Hoecht's reported weight (couldn't find anything definitive) and about 15 lbs lighter than when Lorenzo Alexander was used in a similar role, but as far as strength and athleticism go, it seems like Dorian Williams could be used similarly as Bernard/Milano/(hopefully)Shaq Thompson man the true LB positions.
Tangentially, I'm mainly asking because along with the importance of Hoecht, McDermott's been pretty brilliant defensively since he took over play calling. If anyone listens to The Athletic Football show, the show today was about the 10 people/entities that are changing the NFL this season (very Bills-centric... the very first thing they talk about is Jackson Hawes and they spend a lot of time talking about it) and at one point they Robert Mayes poses the question to his guest Nate Tice asking if we'll look back in 2-3 years at the Bills vs. Chiefs game this week and see that as the game where defenses started changing. (It was all about the dime looks last weekend).
So... it sure seems like the "chaos creator" role Hoecht and Alexander years ago can play is pretty darn useful to McDermott. I guess I'm just looking at the players on our roster and wondering if that player for the rest of this season with Hoecht out isn't Dorian Williams?
That may be a super weird thought, so I guess I'd direct it to the more knowledgeable among you like @GunnerBill and @Buffalo716 along with anyone else who can chime in.
I pointed out earlier in the week that there were a few guys that could combine and take snaps in the Hoecht roll. Williams was one of them. I also think AJE could see some of those snaps as well as Shaq.
I don't think anyone on our roster currently can slip I to that role. Proof being, before Hoecht came back we weren't running the same formations. Those ones with no DT and Hoecht in the middle standing. I think he just has a special skill set.
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Bills 31
Dolphins 27
Buffalo still figuring out the defense without Hoecht. Very little pressure on Tua for the most part due to his quick release.
Late INT by Mad Max seals it.
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RIP. Way to young.
And for all the "I don't want to speculate...but..." people. Yes. Yes you did want to speculate.
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17 hours ago, theAteam said:
These are insane takes to be making on Wednesday
I personally feel like anyone who posts that quacks tweets or X's or anything having to do with what he says should be ridiculed heavily.
So a "thigh doctor" who has no access to these players as patients nor their medical records is making prognosis. And PEOPLE BUY IT!
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23 minutes ago, Bills365 said:
To my fellow Bills fans, I think about this all the time. I am curious everyone else’s thoughts on this.
If we hadn’t traded our 22nd pick for Diggs Justin Jefferson falls in our lap that following year. I know this is in hindsight and Beane was trying to get us a solid weapon in which he did. Diggs was great for a few years but I can’t help but wonder how different this team would’ve been for a decade plus of Allen and Jefferson.
If we hadn't traded for Diggs, based on Beanies drafting history, he would have passed on WR, took a CB and tried grabbing a WR in the third round
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7 hours ago, BillsVet said:
I don't care.
Buffalo was second in points scored last year, third in point differential, etc. during the regular season. And they still barely got past Baltimore in the Divisional Round game and had to grind it out in the AFC CG.
The offense is built to succeed in the regular season and falters under the weight of greater expectations and pressure in the post-season.
The issue I have and the reason I wanted to add a playmaker....we are one James Cook or Dalton Kincaid injury away from catastrophe.
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1 hour ago, JP51 said:
I am just waiting to see who gets pulled out of the game because they hurt themselves stretching in pre game warmups.... or slipped on a rubber mat LOL
As long as it's not 17 we should be ok.
1 hour ago, Mat68 said:Hold em out no? If they are not 100% snap count limit or make inactive? Yes.
No one is 100% at this point in the season
34 minutes ago, RkFast said:GR reporting Epenesa out of practice with a concussion. Could SOMEONE in the press actually do their jobs and ask what the hell is going on with these practice injuries? This is ridiculous now.
I know a lot of people only follow the Bills, but this is actually something that happens league wide. And not all the "practice injuries" are from practice. They can also be from the previous game, but they play through and end up missing a practice which has to be announced.
5 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:I agree with rest for many of these with exception to two. The Fish are toast. Make sure Hancock and Hairston okays a bunch as they need reps and can be our future.
I can agree here. It's a good chance to have a few young guys gets some higher snaps. And if the game gets out of hand, they should be in a lot
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4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:
Now that Mathis has been added to the active roster, I am excited to see how he develops. He has a really high ceiling (former second round pick by the Commanders) but his development has been slowed by injuries. (calf)/meniscus) He has been called up twice, and now appears to be signed to the 53.
In his last year at 'Bama (2021) Mathis had 53 tackles, 9 sacks and 12 TFL's and was named 2nd team all-SEC. This kid has a lot of upside.
https://rolltide.com/sports/football/roster/phidarian-mathis/4653
Fair enough and very good post. However, if he stinks we are now holding you personally responsible. 😂
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11 minutes ago, VW82 said:
I'm not even sure Shaheed is better than the guys we already have on the roster, and all this talk of him expanding his route tree reminds me of what we said about Gabe Davis once upon a time. Maybe I'll be wrong and he'll turn out to be a legit threat that does way more than run a go route, and our WRs will get worse and worse and we'll lose in the playoffs because Kincaid will be injured and teams will run eight man boxes and Josh will take sack after sack because he just doesn't trust anyone to get open...but right now I can't get to that level of chicken little. This group still looks better to me than what fans are claiming.
Here's the thing. Go look at any week of any game we have played. Check out the targets for any WR not named Shakir. It's nauseating.
Early in the season Coleman had a good amount, but those have been scaled back. Now it leads to a chicken or the egg type question. Do the outside WR on this team not get targets because of the offense, or does the offense not scheme the throws to the outside due to the WRS?
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Just now, VW82 said:
I'd also suggest that the price was probably higher for us. We paid a 3rd last year for a washed up Cooper. Trading for another rental would signal just how desperate we are, and the seller is always going to take advantage of that.
Also, as good as Seattle looks today, odds would suggest Bills are a better bet to go further in the playoffs, therefore making our pick(s) worth less. We would've been on the hook for at least another 3rd.
I'm not sure if a 3rd should have been out of the question.
I don't think the odds are higher of finding a better WR in round 3 than Shaheed. Yes it happens but it's more rare. Also, even if we decided not to bring him back, with what WR contracts are these days someone will vastly over pay him in the FA market, likely resulting in a nice comp pick.
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They did say early in the broadcast blast week Cook looked to tweak his ankle. I hope it's not something that flares up worse after the game.
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1 minute ago, Low Positive said:
Jim Irsay’s daughter is running that team as a very hands-on owner. She appears to have went all in to win one for pops. But it’s a giant risk. If Daniel Jones turns into Daniel Jones again, they’re hosed for two seasons.
I agree.
They either have to hope Jones has a Baker Mayfield like resurgence or that Anthony Richardson stops being...well ... Anthony Richardson. I don't see either happening.
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I think the Colts made a splash just to make a splash. I wonder how much cheaper a guy like Riq Woolen would have been?
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28 minutes ago, eball said:
…that perhaps Joe Burrow ain’t so “elite” and is more the product of a pretty fantastic set of weapons. Flame away.
You're gonna get flamed because the narrative has always been Burrow is "elite" and people bought into it And people will point to his amazing season at LSU. In which he had not only Chase, but Justin Jefferson to throw to.
I've LONG said he's not elite. He does have some good traits. But take away Chase and or Higgins and he's not winning you games by himself.
He's also the QB of a team that has often found themselves on the bad end of a game script. He pads his stats late in games far too often. Half the time just flinging balls in the direction of Chase who bails him out with amazing grabs.
Now saying all that, I do not say he is a bad QB or talentless. But people wanna stick him in the top 3 or top 5...and that's nonsense. I could maybe be talked into the 6-10 tier.
12 minutes ago, MPL said:I once heard someone describe Joe Burrow as "fancy Kirk Cousins." I'm still laughing about that.
That's pretty funny. But it's also pretty accurate.
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5 hours ago, BillytheKid said:
Knox is Allen’s best friend on the team and they like having the 3 TE’s. I agree business is business but if Allen says to keep him then they will keep him.
It would be one thing if he sucked but he doesn’t so….
They aren’t going to piss off the most valuable player on the team.
Josh was close friends with Gabe Davis when they let him walk. Josh is good buddies with Tanner Gentry and they let him walk.
They are not allowing Josh Allen to dictate who they keep and who stays, especially when they guy eats up a sizable chunk of cap space.
Here's the thing. He's the QB, the team leader and he's friends with a LOT of guys on the roster and a lot of guys that are no longer on the roster.
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1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said:
Hall and Wilson are young enough to be around awhile to help a QB develop. You build with offense. Finding 2 completely desperate organizations to give you 3 first round picks, a 2nd round pick plus 2 young players who were picked in the top 50 of the draft is complete robbery. I know it’s the Jets but hat tip to them.
Agree, they really made out well and got a nice haul. Wilson I can agree, but with how short RB shelf lives are and the fact that he's not signed beyond this year...moving Hall should have been a no brainer for them.
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2 minutes ago, sven233 said:
On the surface, I agree. I do think he could play the Hoecht role. However, he is having the best year of his career so far this season playing DE. We still need depth there because Bosa is already playing too many snaps as it is. You play AJ in a different role, you are taking some very much DE depth away.
So yeah, I agree in theory, but what we need is someone who is on the team that hasn't been able to carve out a role yet show the ability to do as much as Hoecht was doing as possible.
13 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:I think you're probably right, but wonder how the EDGE rotation would work if they have Bosa, Groot, and AJE all the on field at the same time? Guessing Solomon gets rolled in. Not sure about Jackson. It's disappointing he's lucky to even get a Gameday jersey.
I'm a little worried about Bosa's snap count. I don't know if he should be getting that many snaps if we want him fresh and available come playoffs. We're almost forced to though because he's playing well.
In my mind, AJE can still backfill DE. Hoecht played DE snaps as well. It just means maybe he sees a more full time work load.
Then you have to look at what else we have. Can Landon Jackson eat some snaps and gain some experience? If so get him active on game day. If not, let's see what else is out there and bring in that body. Maybe Dorian Williams can take some of those Hoecht snaps. Shaq Thompson can work in as well.
Key is I don't think any one guy can do what Hoecht provided because before he came back, I didn't see any of the zero DT formations. So it may even be a shared duty type situation.
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8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I don’t think anyone thinks Shavers is the answer. The point is BOTH Samuel and Moore are as fast or faster than Shaheed and we are NOT using them in that way. Neither was MVS or Harty last year, 2 guys that were doing what Shaheed was doing for the Saints before him we did not use in the same way here.So what WR trade happened that we missed out on? None of the WRs that actually gave us something we lacked happened. Olave, Wilson, Waddle, AJ, and BTJ all didn’t get traded.
This is my biggest gripe. Is the usage. I wouldn't have minded Shaheed, however I don't think he would have been used correctly. He's catch a ton of quick screens, though.
Honestly, I don't think we used a player like Samuel right since we had Isiah McKenzie. What ever happened to those little pop forward passes they used to do? Those worked well. The timing is always a bit off on those end arounds. Feels like those pop passes to the motioning WR would be better
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9 minutes ago, sven233 said:
Alright.....the deadline has come and gone and we were left out in the cold. So, we have to make due with what we have in the building.
A couple of quick thoughts (even though I don't love them myself):
WR - We desperately needed a WR1. We got nothing. So, what do we have to hope for? Whelp, we have to hope Palmer is back sooner rather than later. And, as much as it pains me to say it because I don't have any expectations at all for the player, we have to hope Gabe Davis can come in here and do something positive. That said, the bar is SUPER low. Can he offer more the Coleman? If he can't, you may as well release him now. Gabe, even at his best, was basically a slightly better version than Coleman. Not super fast, but faster than Coleman. Had trouble getting open (except against the Chiefs for whatever reason) against man coverage, but Coleman can't do it all either. So, I guess if it gets Coleman off the field, step right up, Gabe...... Ugh..... It's disgusting to even think that our major upgrade at WR this year is praying that Gabe Davis, who was cut by the Jags after 1 season because he was so bad, came in hurt and was finally elevated to the PRACTICE SQUAD last week, is what we are counting on. But here we are........
DL - We've lost Oliver and Hoecht for the year and what do we do? Nothing.....we bring in guys off the street to try out for the practice squad. An awful plan. Now, we do have Sanders coming back hopefully in a couple weeks. He's a 2nd round pick that did show flashes here and there before he went down, but was super inconsistent. So, we have to again hope and pray that this young guy comes back 100% physically and hope that the mental reps and time in the playbook while he was hurt help his production on the field. I still have hopes for him because I like the skill set, but he will need to figure it out a lot quicker than he did when he was in the lineup earlier this year. That brings me the the Hoecht injury. UGH....no other word but devastating. That guy showed up and made the single biggest impact we have had on our defensive line in a very long time. How do you replace that? Solomon? Shows flashes of a great speed rush at times, but is undersized and gets eaten up quick.
HOWEVER, and here is where my curiosity comes in. Hoecht in the short time he was here seemed to make the most impact rushing as a stand up LB right up the middle of the defense. He was helping collapse the pocket and freed up Groot and Bosa to to their thing on the outside and immediately they started playing better. Earlier in the year when Solomon was playing, they used him like a traditional edge rusher coming from the outside and he was getting devoured by bigger, athletic tackles. What I am going to try and do to replace Hoecht, is actually try and use whoever it is the same way we were using Hoecht. Standing up, working the middle of the offensive line against the Guards and Center. He has a rep or 2 in there Sunday and actually had a couple nice rushes. He abused a G on one rep that I can remember. So, are they going to continue to use him like that or was that just because of the game plan they had in? Hopefully they stick with it.
Now, if they are truly looking for someone to fill the Hoecht role and rush up the middle on passing downs, I am thinking this might be a chance for Landon Jackson to find a roll. I looked it up. Hoecht is 6'4" and around 270lbs. Landon Jackson? 6'6" and 264lbs. So, very similar in size. Obviously, they see him in practice and we don't. But the couple of times we saw him in game action, he lined up as a traditional DE and that was really it. What if, and it's a big what if, you tried him as a rush LB just like Hoecht was being used. The one thing Jackson has is strength and a non stop motor. He also uses his hands well. What he doesn't appear to have is elite flexibility and bend. So, why not line him up over a G and just turn him loose? Tell him to just bull rush guys and try and collapse to pocket like Hoecht was doing. This may mask his weaknesses and play to his strengths. I don't know. I am just searching for ideas that are on the roster after we busted at the trade deadline and this is one thought I had. Who knows.....maybe they have already tried this in practice and he stinks at it and the dude is just going to be a bust.
Anyway, today stunk for a lot of reasons. We just have to hope we can find some of the answers and get even a little better with the guys we have on the roster that haven't contributed much yet. Gotta get the most out of them.
We have a guy I think can run the Hoecht plays. And I know I'm crazy to think this. But he's got some power and speed and has somewhat of a knack for making plays when he's in there.
AJE
I know he's more of a DE, but I really think he has the athleticism to do a poor man's job of those plays.
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Just now, dayman said:
No would be one thing, but good lord no? We could put a scarecrow out there out would be fine
We tried that. His name is Tre White.
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Yeah. And let's play Cybo at DT, too....
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7 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:
Jets and its not even close.
It's not a slam dunk.
They created 2 holes. Can they aquire players equal to or better than the 2 they traded away? Will they land a franchise QB? Maybe they put a huge package of picks together to move to 1st pick (if they don't get it on their own) and take Mendoza? The Colts pick looks like it will be late first round this year. Around where we normally pick. They may have a lot of good picks but they also have a lot of holes.
They really should have went "all in" on the reset and moved Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson if they were going this mode.
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TNF - Raiders at Broncos (no Bills talk in other teams' game threads please)
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They typically do until the 4th quarter.