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21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I felt like we were having to play balls out every single week to get over the line. You do that for 17 weeks including running Josh Allen like a battering ram at times the chances you are fully healthy and fresh for the playoffs are reduced. I think the fact our passing game wasn't close to its optimum level was limiting our margin for error.
Do I think this receiver group and a passing game similar to what we got down the stretch last year could get us to 11 or 12 wins and the post season? Sure I do. Do I think it is likely to be enough to win a Championship? No. And I get the arguments about drops and miscues but those drops and miscues are part of the evaluation whether we like it or not. If they can clean those up that will help but again one of the ways to limit mistakes is with better players and I don't think the room is upgraded.
I don't think upgrade this season was ever really realistic. Certainly not on paper, anyway. The Diggs situation pretty much destroyed any chance of that.
2 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:Claypool + Hamler are nowhere near the same as double dipping. They are players that were drafted that did not materialize into the players the team that drafted them had hoped for. They are resurrection projects, not lotto ticket types.
Brady's structure of offense is handicapped by the personnel he is given. It doesn't seem like there is much choice but to continue the dink and dunk, conservative complementary style. While this may be Brady's preferred style, we won't be able to make a good determination of that based on what he has to work with.
Hamler maybe...
But Claypool had two seasons in Pittsburgh that would indicate he is capable. Then he fell off a cliff. So he is definitely a reclamation project....I'd argue one with some merit based on his age, skill set, and performance history
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16 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
There are 32 NFL teams. 1 to 32 where would you say that the Bills WRs rank?Please be specific in the WR rooms that you think are worse. This DOES NOT INCLUDE TES.
There are a lot of people in this thread confident in the group but when you compare them to other teams it’s hard to say that they aren’t 30, 31 or 32. It’s impossible to say that they are better than like 27. If they hit on all cylinders this year their ceiling is about 20-22. That’s just not good enough. That’s the frustration.
I understand. The reality is, the falling out with Diggs hurts this season. 31 million and nothing to show for it.
So, on it's surface...probably not an ideal WR room. Certainly not looking like a top one without a miracle, at any rate. At the very least, we will need some luck for it to be good and the chances of great are slim. Having said that, I actually think they did a GREAT job under the circumstances. They built a room that could be decent, especially with JA at QB, and somehow managed to pull off more depth than last year despite having one hand tied behind their back. They also did it without mortgaging the future or significantly limiting other parts of the team.
Could they go more all in on this season and worry about next year next year? Maybe. I just don't think it would be wise.
I don't think ANYBODY here is arguing we have the best WR in the NFL. If anything, what I am struggling with on this thread is that people act like that was ever a realistic possibility. There are actually people that are mad that we didn't trade into the top 10 or spend next years money today to get some name WR demanding a trade that will cost a fortune in $ and picks.
So instead of saying we need to have the best receivers in the NFL, how about you tell me what they could have done, realistically, in the last two years that would have made a huge difference to our WR core without gutting the rest of the roster or destroying our cap in the next couple seasons. Everyone wants to talk about how the Chiefs drafted all these WR so they care more than the Bills...but they also traded the best WR in the NFL in his prime instead of signing him to a deal, and they won two super bowls.
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3 hours ago, FireChans said:
What lmao.
During Tyreek’s tenure in KC, they drafted another WR in the second. We did not draft a WR even close to that high during Diggs’ tenure.
We also had Beasley and Brown on the roster for two of the seasons, and we drafted a TE in the first when Gabe Davis didn’t work out. You guys are completely disingenuous.
I haven’t looked it up, but my guess is the Bills have SIGNIFICANTLY outspent the chiefs in cap dollars at the WR position over the last 5 years.
this season, when you add the dead money for Diggs, they are spending like 1/6th of the cap on WR, and that’s still not good enough.
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5 hours ago, Beck Water said:
Oh, I have no argument against that at all - totally valid points. But I was responding to @Mikey152, who was countering @Kirby Jackson's points about the amount of resources KC has expended on WR vs. Buffalo by pointing out that the Bills have a lot of 2nd round picks on the roster.
What you say is actually part of my counterpoint - it's not the same thing to spend 3 - 2nd round draft picks on WR, a 1st round pick on a RB, and this year another 1st round pick on a WR (trading up), which is what KC has done over the past 6 seasons
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What the Bills have done, which is to use 2 - 6th round picks, a 4th, 2- 5ths, and finally this year a 2nd, PLUS bring in a bunch of 2nd round picks hoping to resurrect their careers (or have one). Now it's fair to point out that in this time, the Bills also used a 1st round pick on an TE, as well as a 2nd round and 2 3rd round picks on RB, so it's not as though offensive investment in the top 3 rounds has been AWOL, but until this year, investment in WR certainly was.
Counting a TE as a receiver, the Bills have invested a 1st and 2nd at receiver over the past 6 seasons in the first 3 rounds, VS. KC expending a 1st and 3 2nd round picks. It's kind of like double the investment.
This is such a silly argument to make.
Tyreek was traded two seasons ago. The chiefs have been trying to find his replacement ever since. They’ve also fail, multiple times.
over that same span, how many first and second round TEs did they draft? Could it be because they already had a good one?
The Bills, on the other hand, had one of the top WR in the NFL. He probably made more than KCs entire receiving core. They also clearly thought they hit on Gabe Davis. As such, they invested modestly at WR over the last two seasons.
Off-season without Davis and later Diggs (but no money) they drafted a WR with their first pick, signed a FA to 30 mil deal, and brought in a bunch of guys who have had recent success on the NFL on cheap prove it deals. Next season they are likely to spend on skill players too unless somebody blows up this year.
Not exactly apples to oranges.
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29 minutes ago, FireChans said:
I’m honestly confused at your point here.
Are you of the contention it doesn’t matter if great QB’s have good weapons or not?
The history of the NFL proves that not true.
Patrick Mahomes last year had his worst year in the regular season of his career. He has a HoF coach and HoF TE. The TE played worse than his usual standards and the rest of his weapons were horrible and their offense was 16th in points scored. That’s average in the NFL but bad for a Pat Mahomes team. Is he not the guy or were his weapons kinda ass?
The 2019 Pats team was devoid of offensive talent. It was Edelman and a bunch of nobodies. They finished 7th in points and 15th in yards. Had the #1 defense in the league. And they got punked in their first playoff game by the Titans. Brady had the lowest TD% of his career and an 88 passer rating. There were real questions if he was done. He went to Tampa and led the 3rd best offense in points to an SB win, posting the 3rd best TD% in his career and a 102 passer rating, his best since 2017. Was Brady not the guy, or were his weapons in NE kinda ass?
Yes, someone is going to produce, because someone has to. But if the weapons are kinda crappy relative to the league, you are going to get a down year from your QB.
I don’t expect Josh to throw for 2900 yards and 18TD’s. That’s impossible for a QB of his caliber.
Could I see Josh with sub 30 passing TD’s?
Yep.
Could I see Josh with his worst passing metrics since 2019?
Yep.
Could I see the Bills offense be barely in the top half of the league when they have the second best QB in football?
Yep.
That’s really what folks struggle to see here. The Chiefs offense last year WASN’T GOOD. They struggled. They had the hardest path in the playoffs. That’s not the recipe for success.
And yet, they had two receivers in the top 32. So did the titans. Meanwhile, the packers did not. Neither did the Bills. Or 9ers.
This isn’t fantasy football. Individual stats don’t always tell the whole picture. I don’t care who does what so long as the team stats look good.
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1 hour ago, FireChans said:
Well, here’s what I’ll tell you.
No team has made a SB with less than 1 in the top 32 in the last 4 years.
Of the 8 teams that did make the SB, 6 of them did have 2 in the top 32.The exceptions?
Tampa had #18 and #36 in 2020, with a weapons group of Evans, Godwin, AB, Gronk.
The Rams in 2021 had #1 and #44, with Kupp famously having arguably one of the greatest individual seasons of all time in the NFL with 145 catches, 1947 yards and 16 TD’s.
So unless we are as good as that 2020 Tampa unit or have a Kupp ready for a 2k yard season, we are probably not gonna be an exception to that statistic.
Ok so no reason to discuss production. Yet you have the third most posts in this topic lol.
See #1.
Do you think there’s no correlation with points scored and the production of your offensive weapons?
Did the Bills jump from 23rd in points in 2019 to 2nd in points in 2020 for no reason?Here's the point you keep seem to be missing, so I will try one last time then I think it is time to move on from this thread.
The best WR aren't always the ones with the best stats, because WR stats are heavily situational. Rashee Rice wasn't the 28th best receiver in the NFL last year...he was just the #1 WR on a team with Andy Reid as a coach and Patrick Mahomes as a QB. There are probably 50 guys in the NFL that could have done as good or better in that situation. I mean, Juju's stats the year before were identical and he is pretty much a JAG at this point.
The Bills are gonna throw the ball 500 times, at least. Josh Allen is their QB. So either somebody is gonna catch some passes, or Josh is gonna have a terrible season and we are gonna start to question if he is really the guy. Honestly, if he needs to be surrounded with probowlers to win and throw for 4000 yards, he isn't the guy I thought he was.
12 minutes ago, FireChans said:Not having one would be catastrophic, but it would be the worst case scenario, just like the group being good would require the best case scenario.
To have zero in the top 32 would mean that Kincaid ends up a bust, Coleman is a bust, and every other lotto ticket is a complete flameout or the entire group is basically hurt all year.
If the Bills distribution ends up the way you have it there, I would expect a bad offense relative to our expectations and an early playoff exit in our future. And having a bunch of guys putting up top 40-50 production with Josh Allen throwing them the football would be reprehensible. That distribution is “one guy is better than Gabe Davis and everyone else is worse.” GROSS.
I don’t want to see Josh have a regular season like Mahomes did last year. I don’t think that is the way to succeed, because we don’t have the horses to turn it on in the playoffs and we don’t have the defense like they did last year.
I don't know...Green bay did pretty well with that model. Jordan Love threw for 4100 yards and almost led the league in TDs...their leading receiver had 800 yards.
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50 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Well, here’s what I’ll tell you.
No team has made a SB with less than 1 in the top 32 in the last 4 years.
Of the 8 teams that did make the SB, 6 of them did have 2 in the top 32.The exceptions?
Tampa had #18 and #36 in 2020, with a weapons group of Evans, Godwin, AB, Gronk.
The Rams in 2021 had #1 and #44, with Kupp famously having arguably one of the greatest individual seasons of all time in the NFL with 145 catches, 1947 yards and 16 TD’s.
So unless we are as good as that 2020 Tampa unit or have a Kupp ready for a 2k yard season, we are probably not gonna be an exception to that statistic.
Ok so no reason to discuss production. Yet you have the third most posts in this topic lol.
See #1.
Do you think there’s no correlation with points scored and the production of your offensive weapons?
Did the Bills jump from 23rd in points in 2019 to 2nd in points in 2020 for no reason?Let’s state this all another way.
if the Bills don’t have any receivers in the top 32, Josh Allen probably isn’t the quarterback we think he is.
if you look at the top 40, the distribution among teams is pretty high. Most teams have one or two (correlates to targets I posted earlier). Odds are high we have one guy in the top 20 and/or two guys in the top 40 and/or 3 guys in the top 50.
if that DOESNT happen, something went horribly wrong, like Josh got hurt.
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3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I don’t think that the Chiefs WRs are great but the effort is there. They drafted one in the first this year. They traded for a guy that was drafted in the first this year. They traded for a guy drafted in the first last year. They drafted WRs in the 2nd last year and the year before. The Chiefs have 5 WRs drafted in the 1st or 2nd. They’ve tried to find high end talent.
I’m not counting TEs in this WR discussion.
You do realize the Bills traded for, signed or drafted four WR drafted in the first or second round THIS offseason, right?
2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:Yeah my bad I didn't notice that you had just randomly changed the number for some reason.
Though you should better clarify what you mean by "no receivers in the top 28"..........that's why I said players not "receivers".........because Rashee Rice DID finish 28th among all NFL WR in receiving yards.
Rice was, by definition a "WR1" in terms of production.
The number 32 is a reference to the fact that there are 32 teams. It's not an arbitrary number.
Typically only 4-5 teams end up 2 players in the top 32 in receiving and it is, not coincidentally, always a very good group of teams.
Dude, you are wild. The way you so seamlessly add TE and then take them out again in the same post is a work of art.
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Just gonna leave this here
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9 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:
I don't think the Claypool problem comes from Hollis, IMO, Hollis should be easy to overtake. The problem I can see is with K Coleman getting reps over Claypool when Claypool is outplaying Coleman. But the FO wants Coleman in there instead. The lineup/reps would be going to Shakir/C Samuel/and K Coleman.
Coleman is the first pick in the draft and the FO is going to want to get him experience even if it comes at the expense of Claypool. That can be tough to take. And Claypool doesn't have a history of handling situations well.
Maybe, but McDermott generally doesn’t play rookies unless he has to or they are clearly better, so I think if Claypool wins the spot he wins the spot. IMO, MVS is Claypool insurance.
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12 minutes ago, BillsVet said:
Harmon does not address how Samuel, bereft of a primary option in this passing game, will produce the way he thinks. That element has been minimized throughout this thread.
Those seasons in Carolina and the last 2 in Washington featured him as no better than a WR2. In both situations, other receivers were the primary options (DJ Moore, and Terry McLaurin) and drew better defenders.
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I guess Tee Higgins and Brandon Aiyuk and Jaylon Waddle aren’t as good as we thought. Probably St Brown and Puka too, since they play in the slot. If your theory about not drawing top coverage is the reason, why are all the top guys on Harmony list #1 WRs? Shouldn’t more backups be up there?
He doesn’t address it because clearly Diggs was still on the team at that point. Through the first half of the season, he was probably the Commanders best receiver. He sure did smoke Benford a few times when they played the Bills.
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5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
No doubt Claypool has the most upside from a pure talent perspective. So I am hoping to see him get back on track, because he is actually the most accomplished WR on this roster right now based on best season of production, and he did it twice his first 2 years in the league before his immaturity sunk his standing and career.
He is saying all the right things so far...but it is easy to say the right things when you have accepted that you are coming in at the bottom to try and work your way up. My big question is what happens when the 2nd preseason game just concluded and he is still running with the backups? Is he going to start getting frustrated or feeling like he is owed more if say he has had a strong camp but guys like Samuel or even Hollis are still clearly ahead of him?
I mean Hollis is not going to be easy to over take. He has shown he has receiver ability, he is also a very good blocker and very good ST player. They went out and got him long before they looked at Claypool too. Hollis doesn't offer the same top end potential Claypool does, but with Keon, Shakir and Samuel firmly up there on the top, Claypool is fighting to get into that WR4 category where the guy in front of him brings a lot of the dirty work to the table that doesn't always show up on the stat sheets.
But again, Claypool has starter level potential here. Bears traded a first round pick for him 2 seasons ago despite his maturity issues sinking him in Pit. In an ideal world, he keeps impressing and it is him and Keon starting on the outside with Shakir in the Slot and Samuel rotating in amongst them and into the backfield at times. But that is a long road for Claypool to climb, it won't be handed to him. And I want to see how he mentally handles disappointment and frustration from a maturity stand point before I feel like the kid is turning things around.
Honestly, Claypool is fascinating. I really thought he was gonna be the next Mike Evans after his rookie season. His physical traits are top of the league...it's really too bad that his head wasn't screwed on straight, but maybe we will get lucky. Im not really pinning any hopes on it, but he is a real lottery ticket.
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8 minutes ago, BillsVet said:
Quantify this assertion. Because I don't get how a guy who has seen his yards per reception decline 4 straight (full) seasons as someone who is "one of the top man beaters in the NFL."
It would be funny if they used assets, like the 2nd in 2025 acquired for Diggs, to get a better receiver at or near the deadline. They'd be paying a buyers premium given the point in season and by then what's likely to be their clear need at WR. I'm sure opposing GMs would make them pay for miscalculating that WR group was capable of replacing Diggs and providing solid receiving production.
It would also be another major in-season direction turn for the offense after the last few years of being adamant Josh not need to carry the ball. Which doesn't happen because the offense struggles. And this year, with a WR group that is ranked by multiple sources as bottom of the league, it signals they don't know what they're doing to devise an offensive scheme and resource it which can win in different ways.
I already posted this 30 pages ago, but here it is again...more people should watch it anyway
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I kink of think of the whole thing like the Jellybean experiment...
Put some jellybeans in a jar and ask 100 people how many there are. Some people will be WAY too low, some people will be WAY too high, and some people will get pretty close. But what's wild is, most of the time the group average is closer to the actual number than most individual guesses.
The truth on all the rankings is probably somewhere in the middle of all the various extreme opinions floating throughout the collective conscious.
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5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I don't see a guy who is going to win their 1 on 1 inside 2 seconds consistently. And when you don't have that the redzone is where it shows up most. Can the big bodies of Coleman and the tight ends make a few contested catch TDs? Sure. But that isn't a way to live sustainably in the NFL over the course of a season.
Curtis Samuel is one of the top man beaters in the NFL. Aside from familiarity with Brady, it’s probably the number one reason they brought him in…people are seriously sleeping on him if they think he is just a gadget guy/slot. I would bet he easily leads the team in touches at WR this season
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14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
You're right. He got a record breaking contract because of his target share. No other reason. If Shakir was in that offense he'd be a $100 million man right now. Contracts in the NFL mean basically nothing and it's all luck of the draw.
Seriously? A contract? That's your response?
Im curious...do you think Puka Nicua is better than Tee Higgins and Jaylen Waddle?
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14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I predict that no WR on the Bills will get over 100 targets (Kincaid I predict will get right around 100 targets). ARSB has gotten 119, 146, and 164 targets in each year of his career. Respectfully you using him as a comparison was just plain dumb. Shakir and Samuel are not as good as him, I'm sorry they just aren't. There is no magic solution wherein we just funnel one of them 150 targets and watch them collect 1,500 yards like ARSB had last year. Players EARN that kind of target share by consistently getting open and/or showing they can consistently win contested catches.
I expect our passing attempts overall to be lower than usual this year. I'll predict 515 attempts which is about 4 less attempts per game than recent years. I'm with @BADOLBILZ that we will probably have a more ball control offense that runs the ball more and intentionally prolongs drives. I expect we will have to play this style of offense for the same reason we did against the Chiefs in the divisional round - it's what our caliber of pass catchers will necessitate.
Your whole argument is just bad statistics. You're assuming an equal number of pass attempts. You're assuming everyone's yards per target will scale up perfectly with increased targets. Overall you're assuming every single best case scenario and when called out on this, your response is that we're bad fans because we're not blindly optimistic. This response by the way tells on itself - you're admitting you don't actually believe any of the things you're saying, it's apparently just part of "being a fan."
Bad math?
You might want to check yours...or did you even do it?
Even if they only pass 515 times and Kincaid gets 100 targets, that is still 415 more targets. Even if we go with 50 for cook and 50 for Knox to further suppress WR, you STILL have 315 targets left. If we take another 100 targets for backups, that's 215 targets for the top 3 receivers. Maybe it is 100-65-50 or 72-72-71, but either way, That's definitely more targets than last season for at least two of them (Samuel had 92 last year).
And that is all pretty conservative...assuming nobody steps up and we spread the ball quite a bit. Based on what most teams in the NFL do, this is unlikely to occur but we will see. Either way, who really cares?
But please, enlighten me...what, aside from his stats, makes St Brown so awesome? And to be clear, no one guy has to be St Brown for us to play like the Lions, because 2-4 for the lions was not very good. We may have a slightly different distribution and be able to achieve similar results due to our depth.
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
What's the number one predictor of targets in your view?
Because he literally told the Commanders he didn't want the job.
Commanders had 636 pass attempts. Niners had 491. Everyone else was in between. Most teams had normal distributions with the "#1" getting 20-30% of the targets, then a few guys with 10-20%, then a bunch of stragglers with less than 10%. There are a few teams where there were two "#1s" and a thinner middle, and a few teams with no real #1 and more in the middle, but usually it was a normal distribution.
So...either somebody on the Bills will see a lot more targets, or everyone will see a moderate increase. But what definitely WONT happen is that nobody will get more targets. We aren't throwing 300 times.
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45 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
the guy seems to think targets just materialize out of nowhere lol
like the oc just randomly decides to pick some jag and turn him into one of the most productive wideouts in the league becuz targets
Sort of...
35 receivers had 100+ targets. They played for 27 different teams.
So either: Targets are related only to talent and most teams have similar receiver talent or Targets are related to opportunity and #1 WR on bad teams get more targets than #2 receivers on good teams.
Most teams in the NFL will throw 500-600 times this season. Somebody is gonna get those targets, even on teams with bad WR.
Side note...all but two of those WR had less than 800 yards receiving.
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59 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
Wow to almost all of this
Great information.
491. That's the lowest number of pass attempts in the league last year. The Bills will probably throw the ball at least 550 times. Somebody on the Bills is gonna get those targets. Whether we have 8 guys with 500 yards receiving or one or two with close to 1000 and a bunch with 3-400 remains to be seen, but no matter how bad you think our WR are, there are at least 350-400 catches out there.
Let me put it this way...everyone hates on Gabe Davis, but last year he was top 50 in yards and top 25 in TDs for the entire NFL. That includes RB and TE, so at the very least he is an average to above average #2 WR when it comes to counting stats. Every Bills fan knows his efficiency was propped up by big plays, and his catch % was trash, but apparently numbers are numbers. Guess we should have kept him.
Personally, I'd rather give those 80 targets to somebody more consistent. Even if his efficiency is similar or lower, I'd be ok with that for a better catch rate. That said, I think both Coleman and Claypool are capable of repeating his efficiency with a better catch rate in the right circumstances. 55 catches for 700-800 yards puts that WR squarely as a solid #2 option numbers wise.
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40 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
What possesses you to think that? They have an elite OL, the best slot WR in the NFL, and a top 3 offensive coach. If you love the Lions offense I have one idea that could get us there, but that discussion will have to wait until next offseason.
Their "best slot in the NFL" was a fourth round pick and is 6' 202 with a 4.5 40.
The number one predictor of production in the NFL at WR is targets. St. Brown gets a lot of targets because their other receivers suck. So is he really the best slot receiver in the NFL, or is he just the most targeted? Targets correlate to production, but they don't always correlate to talent. He's the best receiver on the Lions, so he gets lots of targets. If he was a Dolphin, for example, he probably only gets half those targets at best.
So tell me why Shakir or Samuel can't do what he does. Why Kincaid cant do what Laporta did. And yes their line is better, but Buffalos QB is WAY better. As for OC, if he is top 3 why isn't he a HC?
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
Last year's Chiefs offense is probably the best point of reference we have. Mahomes finished 7th in passing YPG but just 19th in passing YPA. Considering that offense still featured Travis Kelce and of course Andy Reid calling plays I don't think we can reasonably predict better from the Bills passing offense this year. A reasonable average prediction would probably be something like 9th and 21st respectively.
Of course there is a path to better. In previous discussions I have laid out these 4 best case scenarios:
1) Joe Brady turns out to be a top 5 offensive coach.
2) Kincaid develops into a top 5 pass catching TE.
3) Coleman hits the ground running and is immediately a starting caliber X WR.
4) Claypool turns back into the player he was in his first two seasons.
I think there is a path for each of these scenarios to come to fruition but none of them are likely. How our passing offense performs will depend on which if any of these scenarios come to fruition.
I don't know, I think we can run something like the Lions offense.
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14 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
And in those 7 regular season Brady games..........by your own calculations.........Allen produced what would have been the 17th most yards passing per game in the league.
At this point, we might as well just call a spade a spade...confirmation bias everywhere on both sides.
What I can't figure out is why there are so many negative opinions on a Bills board...an NFL board, I get. But this is Bills fans arguing with other Bills fans about how bad something that hasn't even happened yet is going to be. Even worse, you're down on a team that has won the second most games in the NFL since 2020 and has the best point differential over that span. ZERO benefit of the doubt, ZERO context...honestly, it's kinda weird.
If our recievers, team, coaches, FO, etc all suck as bad as you guys seem to think, Josh Allen is pretty much the greatest person that ever lived.
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3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
No, let's leave it at "were the 2020 Bills WR's a top 3 WR corps" or not?
And the answer is ABSO-F#cking-LUTELY. Do you still disagree?
Try to finish what you start.
They had by far the most receiving yards of any group of NFL WR's in that 2020 season.
I'm not chasing goal posts to help you find an exception that you think proves the Bills should be projected to be where we'd like them to be. You either deal in likelihoods or you go by "feels" and those emotional opinions about what they think will happen aren't a discussion point they are merely a declaration.
And yet, 2020 isn't even the year people point to when they say they didn't fulfil their promise. It was 2021, and in 2021 they averaged 6.8 ypa and all their passing metrics went down despite having basically the same core. Diggs YPT in 2021 was garbage.
I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
in The Stadium Wall
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I don't think they could do that this season without SEVERELY handicapping themselves in other ways...either trading next years first pick (at least) or maybe even two, and in the case of Aiyuk they would also need to structure a contract that severely hampers what they can do in coming seasons (and this one, if we are honest).
Rob Peter to pay Paul. They already spend a ton on WR in both money and assets. Getting a top WR isn't so important that you just tank your team. They likely would have just done more to keep Diggs in that case...that was the best case scenario.
Maybe for the fans...but on the field? Anybody they got in a later round wasn't going to be as good as those guys this season...and they wouldn't have the pick from that round to boot.
Flat out...if they can fix Claypool he is better than all but maybe the top 3 from this draft. In their opinion, signing him and drafting another position was better than drafting a WR and signing a DT/RB. We will see if they were right.