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14 hours ago, K-9 said:
I understand various entities other than Disney owning local ABC affiliates stations, but Disney owns ABC and the programming it produces itself. If the various entities that own the various affiliate stations are looked at as pipes, then the Disney/ABC produced programming is one of the products flowing thru them and from what I’ve gathered, Disney has turned off the ABC spigot to Spectrum. The individual affiliate stations that have individual broadcasting deals with Spectrum can show all the non Disney/ABC programming they want, but they can’t force Disney/ABC to also include their programming in their deal with Spectrum.
The ABC affiliate for Buffalo (WKBW channel 7) is still available to Spectrum subscribers (me). I think this is because Spectrum picks up the ABC feed via WKBW rather than directly from Disney. Unless your local ABC station is owned by Disney, you should be able to get the Bills game next Monday even if the dispute isn't settled.
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18 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:
Wilson: Jets. I wasn't sure Aaron Rodgers would be a good fit in New York, but he appears as happy as ever, his teammates speaking
glowingly of his leadership, and he's still one of the best QBs on the planet. And the Jets also have that dominant defense.
How, exactly, is Rodgers "a good fit in New York"? Aside from doing celebrity things around town to dazzle the media, Rodgers has done nothing to fit in with the Jests. The team has done more back flips to accommodate Rodgers than a gymnast prepping for the Olympics, including hiring his favorite former OC as their new OC and adding several Rodgers' pals to the roster. The NY media and Jests fans are smitten with visions of Lombardis dancing in their heads because Rodgers deigned to appear in a preseason game for the first time in five years and looked "good" against the Giants' 2nd stringers.
We'll see just how good a "fit" for New York Rodgers really is when reality shows up beginning September 11.
4 hours ago, Rc2catch said:Just because you add a former MVP quarterback does not mean you’re a lock for success year one or that they’ll continue playing at an mvp level. Ask Russ last season.
Rodgers and the Jets seems much more like Russ and the Broncos than Stafford and the Rams or Brady and the Bucs. Both the Rams and the Bucs were solid offensive teams with good OLs when they added their new QBs. Even Brady didn't receive the royal treatment afforded to Wilson and Rodgers by their new teams and the local media when he arrived in town.
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I'm optimisitc because for all the whining about the Bills "tough schedule" in 2023, all of the AFCE teams face similarly tough schedules. All the teams face 6 games against their AFCE rivals, 4 games against the AFCW, and 4 games against the NFCE teams. That means each team has 3 games different from the teams its rivals play.
The Bills play the Jags, Bucs, and at Bengals.
The Dolphins play the Panthers, Titans, and at Ravens.
The Jets play the Falcons, Texans, and at Browns.
The Patriots play the Saints, Colts, and at Steelers.
All the AFCN teams are going to be really tough outs, so none of the AFCE teams are finding easy pickings here, especially since all the AFCN teams will be at home. The Bills may have a tougher schedule, but it's surely not significantly harder than the schedules of their AFCE rivals like so many doomsters worry about.
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13 hours ago, Bob Jones said:
I get what you’re saying, but for about the last half of last season, JA17 wasn’t exactly performing at superstar level. Yeah, I know he had an elbow injury….but he definitely needs to be at the top of the QB rankings this year.
If he's healthy, why wouldn't Allen be at/near the top of the QB rankings when the FO has given him more and better weapons and added better players to the OL?
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1 hour ago, ALF said:
The new girl on GMFB is my favorite (jmo) , I started watching again .
Her name is Jamie Erdahl, and she is much better than Kay Adams.
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1 hour ago, leonbus23 said:
A person who is now ten years old would have probably had enough intellectual awareness to comprehend the revolting mass of sewage that was the Tyrod vs Bortels 10-3 playoff game.
Actually that was an offensive explosion compared to the epic Bills-Brown stinkeroo on October 11, 2009 when the Browns beat the Bills 6-3 after Parrish fumbled a kick off, enabling the Browns to kick the winning FG. Derek Anderson threw 2 completions in 17 attempts for 23 yards and 1 INT. The Browns didn't even have 200 yards of offense. The Bills passed for more yards and ran for almost as much as Cleveland, but Trent Edwards was intercepted once and Roscoe Parrish lost two fumbles, including the one that led to the winning kick for the Browns.
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8 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:
Please talk me off the ledge.
I could see this season with the Bills going 2-2 in their first four games.
The Jets will go into their home opener sky high.
We should be able to handle the Raiders and Commanders.
The Dolphins game could go either way. At least the game is in OP.
I just think that our team is weaker than last year.
I could realistically see the Bills missing the playoffs this year.
With all the pundants saying the Bills window is closing, I am starting to think that Josh may never get us to the Lombardi trophy.
Suck it up, Buttercup. As a long time Bills fan, I survived the Bills struggling to win 2 games all season long. I survived 0-for-the-1970s. I survived HCs who were so incompetent that the players mutinied (Hank Bullough) and HCs whose aim was not to lose by too much (Dick Jauron). I survived a #1 overall pick who refused to play for the Bills (Tom Cousineau). I survived watching players the Bills developed into stars leave for other teams over and over and over again. I survived a football organization that that put profits over winning for a decade.
I'll worry about the wheels falling off the Bills' juggernaut when I actually see the wheels coming falling off.
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12 hours ago, leonbus23 said:
Haha. Not too many lawyers. My main point is that the broad generalization that the lawyer made doesn't mean anything. Cherry picking the examples of Belechick, LeBron, Reid (and himself) is meaningless without an objective standard. His claim is about experience with the implication that it results in objective success. His claim gets muddled in subjective self-reflection with the LaBron quote. But it's decontextualized pathos speak. LaBron got DWade and a star teammate with the Lakers. Belechick got Brady. Reid got Mahomes. He got his dream paralegal (maybe). So, his maxim, really means nothing. That was my point. If he wants people to stop complaining about Dorsey, he should provide the data you provided, not espouse some grand truth about experience coupled with the bias of his individual anecodotal example that highlights his age and profession.
So, you can't know if you're doing your career/profession/job better or worse today than you were the day you started unless somebody's done an "objective study" of your progress or lack of same? My guess is that your supervisor doesn't need to study a dataset to figure out whether you've improved since you were hired or not.
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2 hours ago, HappyDays said:
The Creed Humphrey obsession is so tired. I'll criticize Beane when it's warranted. But if we drafted Humphrey instead of Basham we would have the exact same number of Super Bowl wins right now. We're not talking about the league MVP here. It's just a center, the easiest position in football other than RB to find quality talent.
Failed day 2 and 3 draft picks is not why our team has floundered in January. The main reason is our free agency spending relative to the rest of the league has been mostly awful. Missing on a late 2nd round pass rusher is acceptable. Wasting money on the likes of Vernon Butler and Rodger Saffold is not.
Some posters need to improve their reading comprehension.
2 hours ago, boyst said:wow.
we really have been spoiled to have eric wood and mitch morse.
clearly you forgot geoff hangartner, among others.
center is not the easiest position in football. no position is truly easy but that you said this... is insane! like purely a lack of football knowledge.
the center generally calls the blocking schemes, helps call audibles, assures proper alignment, generally knows the entire play for all positions.
then do all of this while making sure the quarterback gets the ball with the laces up in a shotgun pass.
jesus... your take is so bad that you should delete it.
Sorry, HappyDays never said that playing center was easy.
2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:Oh for sure, I would assign the majority of the blame to Josh on that right now. However, when we have folks saying that Center isnt that important, they just need to snap the ball to the QB... And we just lost a game due to a mishandled snap... I can't help but wonder if Josh is a little more calm taking that snap from a young, strong, non-injured, known road-grader like Humphrey.
Sorry, but HappyDays never said that center wasn't important, either.
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On 2/13/2023 at 4:45 PM, teef said:
you don't think a new coordinator can improve from one season to the next? he may not, but to act like it can't happen is wrong.
Why are you surprised that some on this MB think Dorsey can't improve? There are pages upon pages of comments in multiple threads already consigning the 2022 draft class to the bust pile. Our window has closed. Beane can't make good picks in the first and second rounds. The Jests and the Carp have better rosters, etc etc etc ... Sometimes I have to go back and check that the Bills actually did go 13-3 last season and won a playoff game given the litany of "the sky is falling" chants that seem to be overrunning this MB.
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The window closed when Beane failed to draft Creed Humphrey ...
//sarcasm
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4 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:
I said it before and I’ll say it again. I do think if we held a TBD poll on who to draft when the pick is up, we’d have a better drafting history than Brandon Beane. BUT only after the 2018 draft. Allen wouldn’t be on this team if it were up to TBD at the time 😅
Isn't that like claiming Miami has a better team than the Bills while ignoring the most important position, QB?
4 hours ago, ScottLaw said:Not really… your rounds 1-2 are where you get the elite difference makers statistically… Beanes been a hot mess there and it shows on the field.
It would be much easier for the Bills to hit on their first and second round draft picks if they regularly drafted in the top ten spot in both rounds, but I don't miss all the years of the season being over by mid-October ... or even late September.
4 hours ago, RunninRebel37 said:Hmmm…when are folks gonna really be objective about his drafting. Outside of the 2018 draft, what’s he done? The core of this team was truly drafted by - wait for it…Doug Whaley
Beane 1st & 2nd round picks
2018- knocked it out the park obviously
2019 - Oliver : description of mediocre/ Ford: bust
2020- Diggs: he’s Him….not a draft choice but I’ll give it to Beane/ Epenesa: we’ll below average to borderline bust
2021- Rousseau: average to slightly above average/ Bassham: bust
2022- Elam: BUST/ Cook: TBD (but it’s not to question this pick since this teams used 3 valuable picks since 2019 to draft RB and not one has shown they’re an answer or complimentary for this team
Another Nostradamus! I'm shocked that you haven't already pronounced Kincaid and Torrence doomed to be busts.
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3 hours ago, SWATeam said:
LOL, the Jets are certainly the pinnacle of drafting! 🤣🤣🤣
It's hard to miss with 2 picks in the top ten (#4 and #10) in 2022, although the Jests have a tradition of doing so, especially when drafting QBs. They missed on 2 of their 3 top ten picks since 2018: Sam Darnold in 2018 and Zach Wilson in 2021.
3 hours ago, ScottLaw said:I get it…. Unfortunately for Beane his 2021 and 2022 drafts were trash… and fortunately for him he drafted the best QB in franchise history.
Not saying he should be fired, but his last two drafts(and other non transactions) have played a part in holding this team back from reaching a SB.
I think it's very unfair, Nostradamus, that you already know the results of the 2023 NFL season and haven't shared them with your fellow Bills fans on TSW.
3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:I think Terry already did. Beane took a team that never made the playoffs and transformed it into a team that always makes the playoffs. Terry counted up the successes and failures and rewarded Beane with an extension.
One of the things that made Basham expendable is that Beane has successfully acquired other good DEs.
I do agree, though, Beane still needs to get better as a GM. He's given McD a good roster to work with, maybe a very good one, but not a great one.
I would like to see the Bills try to improve their scouting/collegiate player evaluation staff(s). I think that would probably improve the Bills drafts somewhat. As long as the Bills are winning double digit games and drafting in slots #21-32 in the first round regularly, though, they're not going to match the draft successes of teams regularly drafting in the top 5-10 positions.
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15 hours ago, Billsfanatixs said:
I'm not panicking, but just looking for feedback about the idea that right tackle and guard on this team might be the more difficult positions than the left
For most OTs, it's significantly harder for them to move to the other side of the line than to simply move inside to OG on the same side. I think that Dawkins has a better chance of making an awesome LG than making a competent RT.
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32 minutes ago, BBFL said:
Edmunds wasn’t the best, certainly could have been better but also could have been worse.
Tough to see him not mature into what we all hoped whilst in a Bills uniform. Best decision they made was not paying him that much money. Huge salary for spotty play. All the best to him in his future career.
Exactly this. Too many posters apparently cannot or will not accept the fact that not all first round picks are going to develop into All Pros at their positions. I don't know what the percentage of all first round draft picks become good or better players over the course of their careers but my guess is that it's south of 50% (< 16 players), with most of the best coming from the top of the first round in each draft. Beane and McDermott gambled that a very young MLB would grow into greatness, and they lost. OTOH, they gambled that a very raw QB with a big arm but poor mechanics could develop into an elite QB. They won that one.
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2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
I don't understand if you're trying to bash Dion or praise him
But he's a lot better than most on this board think
He's not a bottom 10 left tackle in the world
Since the Bills had several bottom 10 (maybe bottom 3) LTs after they traded away Peters, those of us who remember those bad old days understand that the LT position could be significantly worse than these Dawkins haters can imagine. IMO, playing next to an improved LG, McGovern, will improve Dawkins' play when the games count for real.
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2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:
Your some how blaming the QBs getting hurt on the offense?
I’m not praising Shanny. I think he’s a douche. I’d still take him as a coach over McD.No, I'm not. I'm simply making the observation that the 49ers since 2017 under Lynch and Shanahan just can't seem to keep QBs on the field because of in- game injuries. If it was just Garoppolo, it could just be dismissed as one injury-prone player but every single QB who plays for them ends up hurt. Last year they went through Lance, Garoppolo, Purdy, and Johnson. In 2018 or 2019, they used three QBs because of injuries. It's not like the Niners have a crappy OL or that their QBs are running like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. The injuries aren't similar so it's unlikely that they stem from training regimens. Do they tend to pick QBs who are more slightly built than the average NFL QB and thus more injury prone? Is it possible that Shanahan's offensive schemes somehow expose his QBs to injury more than other coaches' schemes?
I can't give Lynch and Shanahan kudos for being successful despite an unsettled QB situation when their QBs can't stay healthy for more than a few games at a time.
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On 8/24/2023 at 12:54 PM, Araiza Curse said:
This. Shanny has made Mr Irrelevant into a serviceable QB, while McD squanders the 2nd best QB in the league. Imagine what good coaches like Shanny, McV, and Billy would do with Allen.
Purdy's been serviceable for 6-8 games. So was UDFA Nick Mullens, who's currently Cousins' backup in Minnesota I think. There's been dozens of late round QBs who have been "serviceable" for half a season or so over the years. It's not all that rare. What's a rarity is a late round/UDFA QB become a real franchise QB for several years at least.
How is Josh Allen being "squandered"? "Squandering" a QB was Matthew Stafford playing most of his career in Detroit.
On 8/24/2023 at 1:34 PM, ngbills said:Well the Lance pick is all Allen's fault. Everyone fell in love with him because they saw the Josh similarities. I am not sold on Purdy but if he turns out to be a franchise guy I guess its a wash but for a lot cheaper. I dont see it though.
In fairness to SF - 2017 Niners and Bills both missed the Mahomes pick. 2018 - 3 QB's taken before they picked. They passed on Rosen which turned out to be right. 2019 - Bosa over Jones is the right call. Was a weak QB class. 2020 - 3 QB's taken before they picked, they weren't drafting Love. Had no shot at Burrow, Tua, Herbert. 2021 - Lance...
2018 - The 49ers could have taken Lamar Jackson, who eventually went #32.
2020 - Jalen Hurts went in the second round.
2021 - Mac Jones went #15.
Jackson and Hurts are bonafide franchise QBs. Jones is, at minimum, a serviceable NFL starter.
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On 8/24/2023 at 11:15 AM, ScottLaw said:
The difference is Josh.
Somewhat impressive they’ve been mostly good with constant turnover at the QB position and they’ve been to a SB… we’ve been struggling to get there with arguably the 2nd best QB in the league.(Not until 2020 was he truly great however.)
Still, I’d take Shannon over McD hands down.
You might want to reconsider your praise for Shanahan. Maybe it's just a curse, or maybe Lynch and Shanahan aren't particularly astute in picking QBs who can stay on the field -- or maybe it's not the QBs but something in Shanahan's offense. I can't think of any other playoff caliber team in the last decade or more that has repeatedly lost multiple QBs to game time injuries. In 2022, even the backup (Josh Johnson) to the backup promoted from 3rd string (Purdy) was hurt in the same game.
- John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan both came on board in 2017.
- They passed on Mahomes in the 2017 even though their QBs during the season were to be Brian Hoyer and CJ Beathard after they released Colin Kaepernick.
- In October, they traded for Jimmy Garoppolo, who played in only 3 games in 2018 because of injury and only 6 games in 2020 because of 2 separate injuries. In 2021, Garoppolo suffered three separate injuries, one early in the season, another in Week 16, and finally a third in the playoffs.
- In 2018, after losing Garoppolo's backup, CJ Beathard, to injury, the 49ers brought in UDFA QB Nick Mullens who seemed to be really good for a few games ... until he wasn't. In 2020, Mullens was injured late in the season when playing in place of Garoppolo
- 2021, Lynch and Shanahan sent 4 picks, including 3 first rounders, to Miami in order to draft Trey Lance, who barely played in college, and at a small college at that. Lance played in 2 games as a rookie.
- Lance was named the starter to begin 2022 but only played two games before being injured and out for the season.
- Garoppolo managed to start 10 games in 2022 before being sidelined with a broken foot in early December, opening the door for 7th round pick Brock Purdy.
- Purdy lasted until he was injured in the NFC Conference Championship game and was replaced by veteran Josh Johnson, who also was injured in the game, necessitating Purdy returning even though he couldn't throw effectively.
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13 hours ago, davefan66 said:
It’s not often a guy like him makes it. I h ope he does, seems like a good dude.
Would be something if he fails.
I wasn't knocking Purdy but Lynch and Shanahan. Very few college QBs, including those drafted in the first round, actually become top NFL QBs no matter where they were drafted, much less from day 3 of the draft. Since 2000, you can count on the fingers of one hand the ones from Day 3 who've become top NFL QB and have a couple of digits left over: Tom Brady (2000 - 6th round), Dak Prescott (2016 - 4th round), and Kirk Cousins (2012 - 4th round). There have been several notable late rounders like Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Cassel and Gardner Minshew but none of them would be considered "top NFL QBs".
I think it's incredibly arrogant of Lynch and Shanahan to bank on Purdy joining Brady, Prescott and Cousins after only 8 starts, especially since they haven't demonstrated that they actually can evaluate QBs, given that they felt they whiffed on Lance after giving up 3 first round picks to get him.
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31 minutes ago, davefan66 said:
Wow. Niners took a bath on the original trade.
Purdy must be the real deal…so they think.
I would ROFLMAO at the supposed geniuses Lynch and Shanahan if Purdy went the way of about 99% of the QBs drafted in the 7th round.
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9 hours ago, Watkins101 said:
There is no way that adding Tre Lance improves the ceiling of this team. The ceiling of this team requires a healthy Josh Allen, in which case Tre wouldn’t play.
Acquiring a backup OLer better than any of the backups currently on the roster would raise the ceiling of this team significantly more than acquiring a QB without NFL experience as a backup QB.
2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:Well of course!! Lol, who said that it raises the ceiling? Your ceiling is the Super Bowl. It raises the floor!!
If Josh were to miss a month, “could you go 2-2?” That is what you are trying to get to. I believe that it is more likely with Lance than Allen/Barkley. You also get the bonus, if he looks good in those games, of one of the best trade chips in football.
It isn’t about a season!!!! Every team is done if their QB misses the year. It is about if your QB misses a week or month.
Other than being the #3 draft pick a couple of years ago, what about Lance makes you think that he can be more effective coming in for Josh Allen than Barkley or even Kyle Allen? Lance hasn't played enough in the NFL for anybody outside of the 49ers organization to have real insight into his potential as an NFL QB -- and SF's actions suggest they don't think he has much.
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7 hours ago, Lost said:
Where do you all rate the the Dolphins vs. Bills in terms of coaching?
I'm not sold on McDaniel. Much like rookies who sparkle in their first seasons and then tail off in succeeding seasons, some new HCs never develop into good HCs.
2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:IMO yes because I'm obviously very familiar with Dolphins since they are a division rival. But many experts and pundits also have them as a clear cut top 5 roster, in some cases not even factoring in QB like Chris Simms ranking:
Unfortunately for you and all these "experts and pundits" so in love with the Fish, having a supposed "clear cut top 5 roster" is meaningless. An elite QB working with a top HC makes up for most talent deficients most of the time. The Pats and Chiefs have demonstrated this pretty regularly over the last 2 decades. Tua isn't an elite QB and McDaniel isn't a top HC.
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3 hours ago, CSBill said:
Unfortunately, a "sign' of the apocalypse from the book of Revelation, not a future blessing.
2 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:If he'd kept the problem to 40 days and 40 nights, I would've been fine with it...
52 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:Actually, he seemed like a very nice guy. When he was in NYC for the draft he went into a firehouse and was joking around with the firemen not so long after 911. They all seemed to really like him.
The thing is, Williams was a RT in college (never played LT to my knowledge) and came into the league with an ankle injury. People said "no problem, his college QB was left handed." Yeah, OK. In college, he was at least twice as strong as any defender he faced but as we know, this matters less in the pros.
McKinnie otoh was great. Yes he had an off field issue or two but he was a fantastic LT. I remember being up in Buffalo for a game and Univ. of Miami was playing Syracuse that Saturday. McKinnie DEMOLISHED Dwight Freeney the entire game to the extent that I thought that Freeney was way overrated (and he turned out to be an excellent NFL player). Donohoe seemed to hate McKinnie and took "Big Mike" instead. McKinnie could have been our LT for 15 years or so.
So there it is. We walked away from McKinnie and traded Jason Peters. It's really hard to believe.
The mishandling of high draft picks and sending their best players off to other teams were hallmarks of the end of the Wilson era, but so was signing big name FAs like Mario Williams and Terrell Owens to put butts in the seats rather than to make the team better. It's why I don't whine about Beane like so many others on this board. I'll take honest -- if sometimes unsuccessful -- attempts to build a winning team any day over the crap show Bills fans suffered through prior to 2018. There is nobody ever associated with the NFL I loathe more than Russ Brandon.
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Why Are We Not Winning Superbowls?
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Exactly! For the record, three backup QBs led their teams to SB victories: Earl Morrall (Baltimore Colts, SB V), Jeff Hostetler (SB XXV), and Nick Foles (SB LII). There have also been several QBs who'd best be described as "journeymen" or "average" who took their teams to SB wins, including Mark Rypien( SB XXVI) and Trent Dilfer (SB XXXV).