SoTier
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3 hours ago, Cray51 said:
Beane's ability to understand that a boundary guy who can block well and catch the occasional pass doesn't need to be your WR2 and could cost a fraction of what a WR2 makes was very stout
Hollins is one of those unsung but very useful players every team needs. I wonder where all the posters who were whining about the Bills signing him have gone.
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Fans be fans. At least the Chiefs fans have a real basis for their expectations, quite unlike the fans of a certain NJ-based team who spun Super Bowl dreams based on the acquisition of an old QB and some old OLers.
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2 hours ago, FireChans said:
Not sure this is the game to sing the praises of the OL.
They couldn’t get much of a push going in the run game at all. Now the KC DL is great so you can’t really hold that against them either but it is what it is.
Josh also was making them looking good by dodging Chris Jones every time he flattened Edwards, which happened at least a handful of times.
All in all, it was a solid performance against a great defense. And I think this OL has an argument as the best OL in Josh’s career here. I don’t think they are elite by any means however.
Will probably be unpopular, but that’s my take.
KC's D is really tough against the run, so I wasn't surprised that the running game didn't do much. OTOH, they did a good job in the red zone, and that translates into more TDs than FGs. On Cook's second TD, they opened a huge hole for him straight to the EZ.
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1 minute ago, 90sBills said:
That’s not what I’m talking about. It was a great regular season win and fans should celebrate it as such. I’m referring to all the talk about this win catapulting the Bills to a superbowl win or multiple superbowl wins even. This pattern has happened too many times.I don't think that's what most fans in this thread are doing at all. I think that the OP was a bit over the top with his choice of the word "irrefutable" but he or she never went beyond claiming that with a healthy defense the Bills would have beaten KC in last year's playoffs.
If beating the reigning SB champions and ending their 15 game winning streak while extending their own winning streak isn't a reason for happy Bills fans to spin SB fantasies, what would be, especially since the Bills are 9-2 themselves and almost guaranteed a home playoff game? If you can't embrace optimism for the Bills' chances, that's okay, but what's the point of complaining about others enjoying themselves?
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4 hours ago, Coastie said:
I think the worst thing that happened to the Giants and Daboll was that unexpected playoff win resetting the bar on the team and QB when the reality was they aren't a team with the talent to regularly win playoff games.
The worst thing that happened to the Giants wasn't winning a playoff game. It was Daniel Jones' playing well enough to look like he could become a decent NFL starting QB. Were both Schoen and Daboll fooled or did ownership make the decision to keep him over their objections? Maybe everyone on the Giants brain trust mistakenly supported keeping Jones. I think if both Schoen and Daboll are retained, it would be an indicator that ownership had had significant input into keeping him.
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50 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
We beat KC in the regular season in 2021, 2022, 2023, and now 2024. So 4 straight years. They have this knack of turning it on more in the playoffs which isn't all that uncommon with dynasty level teams. That's not to say it wasn't a great win. We looked really good. But I just can't draw many conclusions about what that means for the future given our history. Having said that, I'm largely with you here. I think we CAN beat them in the playoffs. With that, I think people around here are going to think if we do our Super Bowl destiny is nearly guaranteed. That is where I think we will be in for a rude awakening. We have spent so much energy on beating KC and I don't even think KC is our biggest obstacle. We match up well with them. I never thought post 13 seconds we would have beat that Bengals team, at the peak of what they did and you can see around here people view that as a basic afterthought. We don't match up very well against Baltimore or Houston. Pittsburgh is a dangerous team with even average QB play. It is a very long path to the Super Bowl and if we have a chance to make that happen we can't treat one team as if it's our Super Bowl. That is my fear as we keep going.
What does it matter if fans get excited over a win over the Chiefs in November and speculate that maybe things would have been different in previous years if the team had been healthy ... and why do you fear that???
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7 hours ago, Mikie2times said:
I didn't realize that was the only game we played against them in the playoffs. You do realize Mahomes has 28 TD and 2 INT's in the Divisional and Championship rounds. Did you think we got his best today or that Bernard is going to turn him into a pumpkin come playoff time? It was a great win. Lets pump the breaks on rewriting history.
Nobody is rewriting history. In the 2023 divisional round, they lost to a KC team that got back key players from injury for the game because of a missed FG in the closing seconds despite fielding a so undermanned defense that they had to start a MLB called out of retirement -- and that MLB had been a marginal player even in his prime.
As for Mahomes not being at his best yesterday, well, maybe that was because of the Bills defense.
The Bills pass rush continually pressured Mahomes. He threw INTs on his first and last passes of the game because of that pressure -- and the Bills' determined efforts to keep him in the pocket -- a defense led by Bernard.
Oh, yeah, and the Bills put up 30 points on the vaunted Chiefs defense that hadn't given up more than 28 points in nine games with an offensive unit missing OLer Brown, WR Coleman, and TE Kincaid. Yesterday, the Bills were better prepared and better coached than the Chiefs, and they were the better team. If the Bills come into the playoffs with a reasonably healthy roster, they are certainly capable of turning Mahomes and Company into a pumpkin.
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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:
lol Jers lose to Richardson. That Defense fell off a cliff
“Sauce” Gardner=ranch
A Jest loss makes even a Bills loss feel a little better --- and a Jest loss after the Bills smack the Chiefs is heavenly!!!!
1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:Something is wrong with the 49ers this year. That team is way too talented to have the record that they do. Expect their best shot though for sure.
They've had a lot of injuries to key players on both sides of the ball, and their backups don't seem to step up as well as the backups on some other talented teams -- like the backups for the Bills and Chiefs. I don't pretend to have a solid idea of why that is, however.
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The Bears scored their first offensive TD in about 3 games.
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Lions score again.
The Jests just got their first first down ... in the last minute of the first half!
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Puka Nacua caught a TD pass but he's really in pain on the side line.
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1 minute ago, stevewin said:
Also fun to watch two other afc contenders beat the crap put of each other
The Bills Stillers WC game last year probably cost the Bills the divisional game ... they lost 2 or 3 defenders in that game IIRC.
1 minute ago, RobbRiddick said:Here for the MVS comments...
I think he's a lot like Gabe Davis ... he's looks great when he catches the ball but he drops the ball more than you'd like.
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Jests held the Colts to a FG.
Lions are mauling the Jags.
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7 minutes ago, NickelCity said:
Who do we want between ravens and Stillers?
Stillers. They're my favorite team after the Bills.
1 minute ago, Sojourner said:
Last 5 games he’s 10/11. The only one he missed was from 50 yards.He's missed 2 in today's game.
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8 hours ago, 90sBills said:
For most, me included, a dynasty has to include 3 Super Bowl wins within 4-7yr span. Dolphins and Cowboys were great teams in the 70s but the true dynasty was the Steelers. Just like the ‘00 Steelers were not a dynasty even though they won 2 amidst the Patriots dynasty.
The only one that was borderline on your list would be Washington. But their championships were too spread out while being book ended by 2 legitimate dynasties in the 49ers and Cowboys.
70s Vikings? 90s Bills? C’mon. Making it to the big game 4 times is a major accomplishment. Not winning at least 1 is a major failure. Great teams but not even close to being a dynasty.
Did you do a poll to support your claim that "most" define "a dynasty has to include 3 Super Bowl wins within a 4-7 yr span"? A dynasty in sports is simply a team that dominates for a prolonged period of time. What constitutes "domination" and "prolong period of time" is open to discussion. Is winning a championship a requirement? Yes. Is winning multiple Super Bowls within a specified time period a a requirement? I'm not sure. Is a team that strings together 3 Super Bowl wins in 5 years but fails to make the playoffs for a decade before and after its SB run a "dynasty" while a team that wins a Super Bowl ever 3 years over 10 years with playoff wins in all of those non-SB seasons isn't? I can't accept having a short, arbitrary time limit on SB wins, primarily because of the NFL's win-or-go home playoff format subjects teams to so much randomness.
47 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:HOF Qb and HC aren't common. There have been a handful of dynastic NFL teams over 60 years...so, still rare. We just happen to see 2 back to back.
New normal? Yes, it's a QB driven league, but half the starting QBs are mediocre to awful. Too many coming out of college without enough experience---or, worse, are basically option QBs who have no significant passing game, can't read Defenses, can't go through progressions. It's one look, take off, get injured. Or guys like Herbert--big arm, great passer, decent rosters, can't win a post season game. Similar for Ravens. MVP QB+great HC=playoff futility.
Recency bias clouds your post. Dynasties are as rare as we have seen.
I don't disagree that dynasties remain rare. I think that creating a dynasty is infinitely more complicated in today's free agency/salary cap era than in the past, but not impossible. The Pats and Chiefs have demonstrated that. OTOH, there's no guarantee that another team will take up the torch from either of those two teams.
I think that the actual talent levels between the best and worst teams isn't very large today because of FA and the salary cap. I've seen estimates of the differences being like 15%. The real differences are in the quality of the FO management and the coaching staff. To create a dynasty, a team has to put together the right combination of management, coaching, and players, and that's really, really hard to do when promising talents are being plucked from the FOs and coaching staffs of winning teams at the same time as the player rosters are in continually flux because of FA and salary cap considerations.
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11 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:
When hired the Giants thought Daboll could develop Jones like he did Allen. Looks more like Allen made Daboll more than the other way around.
I think the old saw, "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear", applies to Daboll and Jones. Some guys have it, and some guys don't. The best QB coach ever couldn't make Jones a decent NFL starter. That Daboll got Jones to look like a "reasonable facsimile" of a good NFL QB is amazing given Jones lack of talent.
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Lighten up, guys! GFMB is simply entertainment: 90% fluff.
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42 minutes ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said:
what a clown Brandt is
It's his job. He's an actor turned sports "personality".
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32 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:
There have been under currents in the local media suggesting that's what happened.
IIRC the Giants picking Jones caused a lot of questions at the time he was drafted. I think he had some connection to Eli and possibly to the Mara family, and some analysts believed that connection resulted in his selection.
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2 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:
Aaron Rodgers has been in the NFL for 20 seasons and has appeared in one Super Bowl but somehow the Jets, Jets fans, and media members thought that at the age of 39/40/41, he would be able to lead them even to the playoffs.
It is a little crazy though to be that bad with a top 10 WR, RB, CB, DL. I thought they'd be a perennial .500 team with Rodgers but instead they're playing for draft position in early November.
Jests fans and the NY media have been spinning Super Bowl dreams based on total fantasy since they won their SB back in 1969.
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14 hours ago, co_springs_billsfan said:
Maybe they can draft Shadeur in the 1st round and hire Prime as coach 🙏
Why do you hate Shadeur so much that you'd consign him to certain failure with the Jests?
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55 minutes ago, BananaB said:
There is a sense that we shouldn’t make any change or try something different because we are winning. That same
mindset is why for a few years Bills carried basically the same roster and ultimately never met their final goal. Won a lot of games but should have dealt with a weakness before rather then after.
Seriously, dude. If Bishop were even close to playing the position as well as Hamlin, he would be playing at least occasionally. Instead, he's riding the pine except for ST.
You may not value regular season wins or playoff seedings but I guarantee that that's not McDermott's -- nor any NFL HC -- mindset. Deal with it.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
Yep. And Eli had an elite playoff run. Flacco in 2012 too. But it will take that and some bounces IMO
Hopefully, KC will use up its quota of good bounces soon.
59 minutes ago, Sabres 2025 said:Win or lose next week really shouldn't matter in terms of McDermott's future. If they lose to the Chiefs in the playoffs the owners have to make a very difficult decision to make, especially if the season tickets holders demand a change.
There is no difficult decision for Pegula to make. He's not firing McDermott, and few if any season ticket holders are going to demand that he do that. Many season ticket holders have decades of attending Bills games when winning seasons were few and far between and the Bills even getting to the playoffs seemed pipe dreams. For long time fans who remember Hank Bullough, Dick Jauron and Rex Ryan, McDermott is untouchable, especially this season when the consensus was that the Bills were going to "take a step back" because of so many roster losses.
17 minutes ago, BearNorth said:And the Lions have done it with one of the least wealthy owners in the league, a get er done head coach in Dan Campbell, a rising star OC in Ben Johnson, a rising star DC in Aaron Glenn, and a GM in Brad Holmes who went to an HBCU and started out as a PR intern. Some great stories there.
The have turned around from 3-13-1 to the most feared team in the league in just 4 years.
The Lions are owned by the Ford family (of the Ford automobile fortune). The Lions' problems were never related to how the Fords' wealth stacked up to many of the new billionaire owners. In 2020, Sheila Ford Hamp took control of the team from her mother, Martha Firestone Ford, and brought in the new administration and philosophy. She apparently got it right the first time out.
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4 hours ago, BananaB said:
I believe a player needs to see the field to reach his full potential. Hamlin is who he is, he ain’t getting any better. How does that help us in playoffs when we start playing better teams? How was Hamlins game against Baltimore and what changes from him if we see them again. People act like we’re getting solid play from our safeties because we have beaten some average teams. Have we beaten anyone with a winning record? Seems like every QB we play against has a pretty solid game completing a shitload of passes. Even if they’re bad QBs. Bishop got burned against probably the best QB/WR duo we faced all year and the book is out on him. Gotta wait till next year, he ain’t got it 🙄 Makes no sense to me. Hamlin lets Henry run right past him numerous times in Baltimore and everyone still thinks hes doing a good job.
The last time I looked, the Bills were 7-2 not 2-7. They're seeded second in the AFC right now, and can be the #1 seed by beating KC and getting some help from some other team.
If we fans can see that Hamlin isn't the best safety to wear a Bills uni in McDermott's tenure, certainly McDermott and his staff recognize that, too. They would love, love, love to have somebody better, but if they're still sitting Bishop, it means he still hasn't shown enough in practice to give the coaches confidence that he'd be even as good as Hamlin.
I cannot understand why you have such a problem with this.
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Something different/special about the 24 Bills
in The Stadium Wall
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McDermott, Babich, and Brady outcoached Reid, Spagnulo, and Nagy on Sunday. The defense held Mahomes to 198 yards passing plus they intercepted him twice, sacked him twice I think but pressured him a lot more. They did that by maintaining their rush lanes and keeping Mahomes in the pocket. The offense couldn't run a lot between the twenties, but Cook ran for 2 TDs in goal to go situations. Receivers didn't drop many passes, and Cooper's two were both slick. I'll take it, especially against the Chiefs.