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20 hours ago, AuntieEm said:
He had a contract to play RT once he showed at LT he was underpaid. I hated him forcing his way out of Buffali but I couldn't fault him who knows how much quicker the drought would have ended if he remained a Bill had they reworked his deal fairly. Easily could have made difference in making playoffs.
If anybody wants evidence that the Bills under Ralph Wilson put profits over winning in his last fifteen years as owner, compare the players the Bills drafted and/or developed that they traded away or allowed to walk in free agency and those that they kept. The list of ex-Bills who went on to star for other teams is far longer than the players the Bills kept who became more than JAGs. Jason Peters, Marshawn Lynch, and Stephon Gilmore all became All Pros for other teams after the Bills sent them packing -- and won SB rings, too. Antoine Winfield, Sr made the Pro Bowl three times and was also named 2nd team All Pro. Willis McGahee made the Pro Bowl twice for two different teams (Baltimore and Denver). There were many more. Kyle Williams was one of the few good home-grown players the Bills kept. They were much more likely to keep players like Chris Kelsay, Lee Evans, and Leodis McKelvin.
2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Most teams don't have 2 good tackles so why would any of them have more than 4 playable OT's and just release one?
IMO, the only way the Bills can hope to improve their OT situation via other teams' castoffs is if they find a very raw rookie/2nd year player that another team tries to stash on their practice squad. That player would be unlikely to be of much help this season though.
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On 8/19/2023 at 1:54 PM, BADOLBILZ said:
I don't think he can hold up physically to play 90% of snaps anymore. Yeah he was still doing that in 2021 but, I mean, dude is 41 now. I think you'd just view him as a way better replacement for Quessenberry at this point. Maybe the biggest thing he could do is help Dion Dawkins learn what it takes to extend his career. Dion at 28 was blocking at a level like Peters at 38. That shouldn't be. Dion should be in his prime now and he's trailing off significantly. Maybe he could help wake Dion up and help extend his career. Like I said, Bills fans think he's a malcontent because the Bills tried to move him to LT and pay him RT money and he wanted fair market compensation for the bump in responsibility...........but he's been renowned as a GREAT teammate and leader for the vast majority of his career.
Actually, the Bills were paying Peters low-end RT money -- and wanted to continue to do that -- even though Peters made the Pro Bowl and 2nd team All Pro at LT. The LT whom Peters replaced left in free agency the next season and signed for more than the Bills were paying Peters IIRC.
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On 8/16/2023 at 5:37 PM, T&C said:
What they call Country music nowadays isn't really country music... it's just pop music with a "twangy" voice.
When, exactly, was Country music "really country music"? My late step-mother loved the country music of the 1950s and 1960s. I'm more of an Alabama, Garth Brooks, Alan Jackson and Reba McEntire fan myself but I like more recent music by Kelsea Ballerini, Eric Church, and Florida Georgia Line. America in 2023 isn't the same America as in 1933 or 1953 or 1973 or even 1993, and country music, like most popular music genres, reflects that.
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3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:
Well... One of those guys is no longer with us, and the other guy runs the XFL.
I think Peters would be a great insurance policy at OT but some people hold grudges long after the parties they think did them wrong are totally out of the picture.
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53 minutes ago, BillsGuyInMalta said:
Come on home, Jason.
Just to put this into perspective, he was part of the same draft class as JP Losman.
Given that Ralph Wilson and Russ Brandon refused to renegotiate his very unfair contract after he was named to the Pro Bowl and 2nd Team All Pro twice, I'm not sure how Peters feels about the Bills.
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16 hours ago, soflabillsfan1 said:
A simple adult adoption that required getting both his crackhead Mom and runaway Dad to show up in court. Good luck with that. You also kept referring to the "family friend" lawyer. That guy is Jimmy Sexton. One of the most powerful, respected agents in all of sports. Oher is going to come out looking bad in this but it doesn't matter.
Try Googling "adult adoption in Tennessee". All that's required is for the biological parents to be notified. They don't need to agree to it nor do they have to be present in court. FYI, according to Touhey, Oher's mother was, in fact, in court.
In one of the articles cited in this thread, Sexton was identified as a close family friend of Touhey as well as the lawyer who set up the conservatorship. His status and reputation doesn't exempt his actions from scrutiny in regards to the ethics of his being involved in giving his friend financial control of someone who became his client.
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1 minute ago, syhuang said:
I find below interesting. In Michael Other's own book "I Beat the Odds" in 2011 (note: not Michael Lewis' famous book "The Blind Side: Evolution of a Game" in 2006, which the movie bases on), it has mentioned Sean and Leigh Anne would be named as my "legal conservators" in page 168.
Oher's book was published in 2011 so it doesn't look like the whole adoption and conservatorship thing is something Oher just found out recently.
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FAQ: Sorting out the biggest claims in 'Blind Side' controversy
On Page 168 of his 2011 bestseller, "I Beat the Odds," Oher describes the legal process of joining the Tuohy family in the summer after he graduated high school:
Leigh Anne and Sean had already assumed responsibility for me as guardians, which allowed them to sign my school permission slips and take me to medical appointments. This last step was the one that would make everything binding.
It kind of felt like a formality, as I'd been a part of the family for more than a year at that point. Since I was already over the age of eighteen and considered an adult by the state of Tennessee, Sean and Leigh Anne would be named as my "legal conservators." They explained to me that it means pretty much the exact same thing as "adoptive parents," but that the laws were just written in a way that took my age into account. Honestly, I didn't care what it was called. I was just happy that no one could argue that we weren't legally what we already knew was real: We were a family.
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The Touheys lied to Oher because a conservatorship is not an adoption. The law in Tennessee allows for adult adoptions. They chose to use a conservatorship rather than a simple adult adoption.
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3 hours ago, Patrick Duffy said:
Didn't read through entire thread just yet so sorry if it's been addressed already, but question regarding the "conservatorship"......If it was a true conservatorship, wouldn't that mean they would have had some sort of control, involvement etc in the NFL contract that was signed with Ravens as a rookie? I'm not exactly sure so could be mistaken....
But if not, in that case I don't see how he learned about it recently. He would have known then at that point right? Correct me if I'm wrong here.....
According to the court filing, Oher's new lawyer discovered the conservatorship in February, 2023. My guess is that the Touheys didn't exercise as much control over Oher as they could have, so he didn't question anything until after he retired.
Oher's agent when he signed his first NFL contract (and maybe his subsequent contract(s)) was described in one of the articles quoted upthread as a close personal friend of the Touheys. This same lawyer set up the conservatorship, which was set up when Oher was just 18. Oher claims in court papers that he thought he was being adopted by the Touheys when he signed the conservatorship agreement, and the Touheys have represented the legal proceeding as adoption for years. Sean Touhey has also claimed that they couldn't adopt Oher because he was over 18, so they had to do the conservatorship, but Tennessee allows adult adoption so that statement by Touhey is untrue.
50 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:I don't know, but even so the man/lady has to be there in a true conservatorship and considering such a huge, life changing moment for himself and them I highly doubt that in such dream come true event that Oher or anyone else would just "let the agent do everything" and not be involved.
I understand what you're saying that may explain it, but I assume you would mostly agree how very unlikely those 2 are.
All I mean is it's kinda strange
I think that Oher trusted the Touheys and his agent (the Touheys' friend) to take care of his interests because he thought he was truly part of their family so he never questioned much. I think that he feels betrayed and exploited by the Touheys, and that's what has prompted the lawsuit.
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I would think that Luke Combs tix will definitely be in demand since he's a major country music star with a long string of recent hits. He's a 2 time CMA Entertainer of the Year. I do wonder about having an outdoor concert in Highmark in April ... although I once stood in line for 2 hours in 10 degree temps to get an armband that enabled me to buy tix to a Garth Brooks concert back in the day.
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On 8/12/2023 at 7:30 AM, eball said:
The biggest mistake the pundits make these days is using Josh Allen as an example of why guys like Richardson (and Trey Lance, etc.) could/should be great. What they fail to comprehend is that Josh Allen is not just about the physical tools…his mind is also All-Pro.
I have no idea what Richardson is capable of, but saying “look at what Josh Allen did” as your rationale for optimism is like searching for fool’s gold.
Since 2000, Allen is just about the only "project" QB taken in the first round who has become a top QB. Tom Brady was a sixth rounder and Tony Romo an UDFA. Those are the only QBs I can think of who underwent "complete make-overs" as pros and turned into top NFL passers.
On 8/13/2023 at 1:06 PM, Warcodered said:Something that also doesn't get looked at is Josh's issues in college were decision making and sloppy mechanics that caused poor accuracy. People tend just say it was poor accuracy but when his mechanics were right the ball went where he wanted it to go.
It seems to me that Allen's problems with decision making and mechanics were rooted in lack of good coaching. He went to a small rural HS. He went to a junior college and then a lower echelon college program, which is not exactly the best path to the NFL. Even his first year with the Bills, his QB coach wasn't very experienced, and Allen struggled. I believe that Allen worked with Jordan Palmer before his second season, which helped. Under Daboll and Dorsey, you could see Allen improve over the course of his second season, and he's continued to hone his skills as he's matured.
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9 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:
Elsewhere, I read he sold for $213 million. And he still owns 11 Taco Bells which probably nets him roughly $2 million/year. He's not hurting for money.It's hard to imagine him, with the kind of financial resources he has, throwing his morals and values to the wind to screw his 'adopted' son for a little more money that he doesn't really need.
I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you are naieve about human nature. Financial success doesn't necessarily mean a person has "morals and values". In fact, many successful businessmen have built their success by exploiting their employees or ruining their competitors, and numerous very wealthy people have been convicted of fraud, embezzlement, etc for a relatively small amount of money.
7 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:
Exactly. Guess the prevailing opinion in this case at this board is “he got got” and it’s all good. Guess his white saviors get to profit on the story more than him, even though without Oher and his talent and subsequent success there is no story at all.This place surprises me more and more every day. And mostly not in a good way.
Sadly, I'm not surprised at all. I think too many fans don't see NFL players as people but as Madden game pieces. There's a lot of resentment, too, that successful NFLers make a lot of money over their careers, at least some of which is based on racism from some posters.
6 hours ago, syhuang said:Now it’s getting more interesting…….
——————————————'If he says he learned that [the conservatorship] in February, I find that very hard to believe. I was curious today to go back to our family group texts to see what had been said. There was things back in 2020 and 2021 that were like, "if you guys give me this much money, I won't go public with things." So I don't know if that's true.
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The 63-year-old went on to claim that he and his wife did not profit off the film, The Blind Side. “We didn’t make any money off the movie,” he alleged. “Well, Michael Lewis (the author of the book ‘The Blind Side’) gave us half of his share. Everybody in the family got an equal share, including Michael. It was about $14,000, each. We were never offered money; we never asked for money. My money is well-documented; you can look up how much I sold my company for.”…
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Furthermore, Sean addressed Michael’s conservatorship claims. “Michael was obviously living with us for a long time, and the NCAA didn’t like that,” Sean claimed. “They said the only way Michael could go to Ole Miss was if he was actually part of the family. I sat Michael down and told him, ‘If you’re planning to go to Ole Miss — or even considering Ole Miss — we think you have to be part of the family. This would do that, legally.’ We contacted lawyers who had told us that we couldn’t adopt over the age of 18; the only thing we could do was to have a conservatorship. We were so concerned it was on the up-and-up that we made sure the biological mother came to court.”——————————————————-
I have real issues with Sean Touhey's statement above. It's simply untrue that they couldn't adopt Oher over the age of 18 in Tennessee: Adult Adoption in Tennessee. All it would require would be Oher's consent. Adoption would not have given the Touheys control of Oher's finances but it would give Oher legal rights to the Touhey estate if Sean or his wife died. The conservatorship enabled the Touhey's to control Oher's fiances and profit from it indefinitely.
2 hours ago, aristocrat said:
does he not have control of his finances? Or did someone tell him they probably made millions and he doesn’t realize they didn’t?The conservatorship is still in effect, so the Touhey's still have control over some of his finances. I imagine that this will all come out in the court case.
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1 hour ago, Augie said:2 hours ago, CookieG said:
The allegations, if true, present some pretty sticky legal issues.
If they obtained a conservatorship, the Touhey's (sp.) are under a legal duty to act in HIS best interest regarding his assets. Those assets would include his name and his story. It is an independent duty created by the legal nature of the conservatorship.
If they simply gave away the monetary rights to his name and story...as court appointed conservators, they will have some questions to answer. Thy are not appointed to waste assets of the ward. In fact, a conservatorship is created to prevent wasting of the ward's assets.
It gets worse if they personally profited from an asset of his that he never received a cut from.
How much did they make? And how much did he make? Did everyone sign off on this? Did someone fail to perform according to the agreement in any way?
There is a lot of moral outrage here. If someone could give us the Cliff Notes on the facts and the contracts, that would be helpful.
According to the ESPN article, the conservatorship is still in effect, and ending it is the primary reason for the lawsuit. If Oher is broke -- as several posters on this thread have claimed -- that seems to be the Touheys' fault since they have been in charge of his finances for nearly 20 years. The court filing also claims that the Touheys not only profited from the movie, but they have continued to profit from claiming that they adopted Oher, from foundations that they ran to books to motivational speaking tours, etc. Moreover, Oher's sports agent was a close friend of the Touhey's, and the same lawyer who filed the conservatorship papers. This entire situation stinks to high heaven.
1 hour ago, WotAGuy said:One thing we learned from the Manziel documentary is that all sides are greasy when it comes to NCAA football; the schools, the leagues, the families and the kids. There’s too much money involved for it to be squeaky clean.
As a former grad student at a large Midwestern university that was a football powerhouse (ie, National Champion) in the 1970s when I attended, I will attest to this. Grad students without scruples could earn big bucks by "tutoring" football players so they could maintain their eligibility.
The New York Times article quoted by Syhuang in his/her post suggests that the Touheys were hardly altruistic in helping Oher. It seems that they viewed helping him get NCAA acceptance as an "investment" in getting him to the NFL which lead them to help him skirt the intent of the NCAA rules. If Oher's GPA was too low, he could have attended a junior college for a couple of years where he could have improved his grades in order to transfer to a NCAA school. That was both Cam Newton's and Josh Allen's route to the NFL (although not necessarily for poor HS GPAs).
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Here are some things to do around Buffalo in October 2023 depending up when and how long you are in town ... Events in October.
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16 hours ago, Success said:
We'll know soon enough.
But yeah - that's my take. They are trending down. I don't think they will contend for the 1 seed this year. The main thing they have going for them is an easy-as-pie schedule. Kelce is going to be 34 this year. They lost Juju. They're hoping players like Toney can step up.
Just not seeing it. I think they'll struggle to get the 3 seed.
I'll believe KC is falling off when I actually see it on the field. Elite QBs can make up for so many deficiencies that these teams are always in play to win the SB unless they lose their QB or the wheels completely fall off the rest of the team. Pundits predicted the Pats' demise almost every year for a decade before Brady left. I think it's the same with the Chiefs. I would add that the Bills and Bengals are right there, too, with probably the difference being that Andy Reid is a great coach while McDermott and Taylor aren't shoo-ins for the HOF at this time.
One of the reasons that I couldn't put the 49'ers in the top 5 is because of their QB situation. Maybe Brock Purdy is the real deal but there are dozens of ex-NFL QBs who looked good for their first six or eight games before their careers went south. Trey Lance hasn't played enough to even know what kind of a QB he could be.
The Chargers, Fins and Vikings need to acquire a semblance of an average defense before they can be considered top teams in the league.
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Other dangerous teams: Jets, 49ers, Steelers
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14 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:
C'mon. All I speak is truth. There are virtually no active attractions in Buffalo, at least none that would inspire one to visit. It's embarrassing interacting with Buffalonians on this. Maybe I'm just used to other cities like Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Charlotte, Charleston, Nashville, Baltimore, etc., all of which are way more pleasant to visit and you can actually walk around their vibrant city centers. With pretty much any city you visit, especially one considered major like Buffalo, there's more to do than you can fit in. In Buffalo, it's like...thud. And it's embarrassing. People say things like, "Oh, so that's...all there is?" and it happens all the time.
When were you last in Buffalo ... if ever? Either your experience dates from 30 plus years ago or whatever "city guide" you're using does, Joey. Now, go crawl back under your bridge.
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3 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:
Rodgers is going to be very good on the Jets, but it might take 5-6 games for them to get clicking on offense.
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2 hours ago, Fleezoid said:Yep. I'm thinking Rodgers could get very divisive if things start going badly. He's already basically called out the O-line for their pass blocking.
I doubt that Rodgers' ego can tolerate being the QB of a mediocre offense for 5 or 6 games. In his mind, Rodgers knows he's the greatest QB ever. I agree with Fleezoid that Rodgers would become divisive to the entire team in short order with a poor start. He repeatedly demonstrated a penchant to blame everybody but himself for the Packers' missteps over the last couple of years.
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5 hours ago, boyst said:
he's fairly hippydippy, anti-gov, etc. in the way Beas was.
he doesn't get the poo for it because he's Rodgers but he does get a fair amount of crap because he does not groupthink or have a hivemind.
LOL. I can't think of better examples of "groupthink" and having a "hivemind" than embracing conspiracy theories based on disinformation spread on social media.
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2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Yes you can take the NFTA bus to the stadium... They have select pickup and drop off times at select destinations
I took the bus to the dolphins playoff game last year
Got picked up at the Thruway Mall Transit center... And it dropped me off in front of Ralph Wilson stadium
Got a police escort on the highway
They had a select pick up destination after the game also
Here's the link to the NFTA game day express bus service (NFTA Game Day Bus Schedule). I think you want to take Route 253, which leaves the Metropolitan Transit Center in downtown Buffalo (181 Ellicott) and drops you off at the stadium after a stop at the McKinley Mall. This bus route will have buses returning to the MTC a half hour or an hour after the game. Enjoy the game!!!!
PS When you go to Niagara Falls, take the time to ride the Maid of the MIst boat ride!!!! The Cave of the Winds is good, too!
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24 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:
We have hawks in our area. Last week my wife saw one unsuccessfully swoop in for the the kill in our backyard - probably going for a rabbit. It ended up chilling on our pool deck for awhile and was probably around 15 inches tall standing upright.
Cut to a half hour ago. My son is hitting wiffle balls in the backyard and I'm enjoying a cocktail with my back to him. He hits one to the back of the yard and when he threw it back to where he hits from a hawk swooped down from over his head and went for the ball! It ended up flying to the top of a very tall tree one house over and this thing was huge! Funny thing is it was no more than 10-15 yards from me when it went for the ball and I was completely oblivious. My son is now hitting wiffle balls with one eye to the sky.
It might be a very hungry, very desperate young hawk.
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I think that even if he stays healthy, Tua is simply a "good" NFL QB. Surround him with lots of talent, and he'll look good, put up impressive numbers, and win some games. He'll even win some playoff games, and maybe, if things go perfectly, maybe even a Super Bowl like Joe Flacco did. He's not an "elite" NFL QB who can enable JAGs to play far above their weight classes when needed. That's what Allen, Burrow, Hurts and Mahomes do. It's what Brady, P Manning and Rodgers did in their prime. I think QB is where the gap between the Bills and Miami is not only the widest but also the hardest to close. The Miami offense may have more talented offensive skill players than the Bills but because of Allen, the Bills get just as much firepower -- and sometimes more -- out of their somewhat less talented group.
There's little doubt that the Bills also still have a better defense than the Fish. Even with injuries to key players almost from the start of the season, the Bills D held its own as one of the best Ds in the league, which speaks to the talent and depth the Bills have on defense. Last year, Miami's D was in the bottom quarter of NFL statistically, so they have a long climb to catch up to the Bills there, too. They've improved, but while they've strengthened their defensive starters, they lack the quality depth that they need to be a top defensive team in 2023. Having to replace Jaylen Ramsey with Eli Apple early on is a major set back to closing the defensive gap.
Finally, while the Fish have added some big name players and a well-known defensive coach for 2024, the Bills haven't exactly slept through the preseason. They've modestly improved their OL, RBs and WRs. They added a top flight pass catching TE and a promising interior OLer in the draft. If White, Hyde, and MIller can return to pre-injury form in 2023, the Bills will again be a tough defensive team. The gap between the Bills and Fish has narrowed somewhat but the Fish have definitely not closed the gap. They may even have fallen further behind if Tua can't stay healthy.
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4 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:
Yeah I think Salah is overrated personally. They jumped from 32 to 4 on defense and everyone just expects them to keep rolling with that? History suggests they will regress to the mean a bit
I think the addition of Rodgers can change the Jets' narrative. Forty-year-old Rodgers still tops Tua, especially since Tua, even healthy, has never been mistaken for an elite QB. Rodgers could crash and burn in the Big Apple as Russell Wilson did in Denver, but at this point, he makes the Jets the Bills closest challenger.
2 hours ago, eball said:The Bills match up just fine with the Bengals when we have our full complement of defensive players.
I saw a take on the Bills-Bengals playoff game last month or so by somebody on TV (maybe on GMFB) that suggested that the Bills hit a mental/emotional wall in the Bengals playoff game because they had been through so much as a team toward the end of the season that they were literally "running on empty" by the time they got to the playoffs. They certainly played "flat" in the Bengals game, and that mental and emotional fatigue might have been the reason.
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2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Same. Jets D is legit. In a recent interview, Dawkins called out Cowherd when he talked as though he made the assumption the Bills would just be expected to beat the Jets. He praised their defense and said they give us all we can handle.
What the Jets lacked, was a QB - and now they have one.
I agree. The Jets have more of the right pieces to be a real threat than the Fish. Rodgers is easily better than Tua. I think their WR corps are about equivalent. The Jets defense is significantly better. I think that Saleh has proven himself a competent HC at worst, but the jury is still out on McDaniel.
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I still have had no luck attracting hummers to my feeders but I definitely have several -- again, apparently all females -- visiting my garden because they've been having aerial "hummer wars" all around my yard. One of the girls likes to sit on the top rung of my tall tomato cage and chase off all the others. She's apparently the "boss" hummer.
My new feeder apparently discourages pigeons ... but the smaller birds have been reluctant to try it at all, and the cardinals and blue jays just ignore it even with the old feeder empty. I even took down the old feeder but still no takers except for some adventurous house sparrows. So, I filled up both feeders. I suspect that some hungry birds will eventually use it, especially as the seed feast in my backyards diminished as we go into fall.
On a side note, as more flowers come into full bloom, especially tall garden phlox, coneflower, and Joe Pye Weed (a type of domesticated milkweed), I've had a bounty of pollinators from bees of all sizes and butterflies (including monarchs visiting the JPW) to several different kinds of hornets and moths.
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The mishandling of high draft picks and sending their best players off to other teams were hallmarks of the end of the Wilson era, but so was signing big name FAs like Mario Williams and Terrell Owens to put butts in the seats rather than to make the team better. It's why I don't whine about Beane like so many others on this board. I'll take honest -- if sometimes unsuccessful -- attempts to build a winning team any day over the crap show Bills fans suffered through prior to 2018. There is nobody ever associated with the NFL I loathe more than Russ Brandon.