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4 hours ago, fergie's ire said:
Torn. I agree that Burrows is dangerous in the playoffs. However, would love to put more distance between Ravens for seeding...and also, and this can't be overstated, I really really don't want the Jets to make the playoffs. If Cincinnati is out there aren't many teams between the Jets and playoffs. If Bengals lose and Bills beat the Colts, and the Jets win, they would be tied for 8th in the AFC. They would only trail Denver...and I don't trust the Broncos.
The Jets are 3-6 with 8 games left. While it's true that the Jets have an easy schedule, expecting them to win at least 6 of their next 8 games seems a big ask for such a dysfunctional team. They play at the Cardinals this week which doesn't seem as easy a win as it did at the beginning of the season. Moreover, they have to play the Tua-le Fins twice, the surging Rams, and the Bills at Highmark. Of those 5 games, they could easily go 1-4, and IMO they're more likely to go 0-5 rather than 3-2.
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I'm rooting for the Ravens. I think Cinci with Burrow could be very dangerous in the playoffs if he gets hot because of the single elimination format. Get them out of playoff contention early IMO.
I think that the Ravens may run out of steam by the end of the season and come into the playoffs not in prime form. Lamar is already banged up and nursing some nagging injuries. More importantly, Harbaugh is using Derrick Henry way too much rather than pacing him to have something left for later. One of the tv analysts brought this up recently. Henry is on a pace to have 300+ carries ... at almost 31 years old. In previous seasons with Tennessee, his production declined late in seasons where he was heavily used early on. The Ravens without Henry are much less of a problem.
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11 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:
Separately, we should probably wait to see what the Jets look like the next couple weeks. I hate them so very much, from top to bottom, but you can't deny the gnawing sense that they could in fact capitalize on renewed belief, a weak schedule, their QB's penchant for drama (and quackery), and the league's love of comebacks and large market viewership.
The Bills in week 17 might need to end the Jets season a second time in one...season.
The Jets have talent but they are a deeply dysfunctional franchise. They looked like a real team in their latest win, but the real test comes when things go south. Whether you call it culture or team spirit or whatever, that connection among team members (both players and coaches) that enables teams like the Bills or Chiefs or Lions to face adversity with an all-for-one mentality is missing in the Jets where it seems that are other agendas at play. Not only have numerous media analysts noticed this, but some players have also mentioned it, most surprisingly newcomer Davante Adams (or maybe not surprisingly since Rodgers hinted at the same thing earlier). I can't see a team that deeply divided winning 6 or 7 games in the last half of the season.
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45 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
I'd still worry about the Jets. They have the best CB, best DL, and second best WR in the AFC East. They have a good cheap RB. They still have Adams under contract for next year.
They screwed up with their OLine. They can fix that with one draft.
Cut Rodgers and designate him a post June 1st cut.
Tank the rest of this year. Draft QB OT, OL, and DB next year.
Go after Ben Johnson. If he can make Goff work he can probably do the same with another QB. See if you can get lucky like Tampa and Minnesota has with a retread QB for a year. Justin Fields or someone like that.
The Jets are going to remain the Jests as long as Woody Johnson owns them.
The Jets haven't drafted a competent QB since they took Chad Pennington in the first round of the 2000 draft. What makes you think they'll find one in the 2025 draft? They have less draft capital for 2025 because of the pick(s) they gave up to get Adams. Expecting to get three starting caliber players, including a franchise QB and an OT, out of one draft with only a single first round pick is unrealistic for any team, but especially for a team with an owner who thinks he's a football expert with a track record that proves he isn't.
Because of Rodgers' contract the next 2 years as well as the money they've committed to Rodgers' pals, they probably can't afford to pay even a retread QB unless he's willing to play near the league veteran minimum.
Why is the world would Ben Johnson have any interest in coaching the Jests? Rodgers' legacy is an albatross weighing down the Jests' future, but Woody Johnson has been and will continue to be a millstone on the Jests' future.
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28 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Daboll has never been a great OC at any point in his career. Ben Johnson transformed Goff into a top 10 QB and has built the most dominant offense in the league. And the offense has gotten better and better each year so it's not a flash in the plan. The respective resumes of those coaches are not close IMO.
That Johnson is a great coordinator doesn't mean that he will make a great HC. Mike McDaniel was the "hot" OC, but his tenure as Fish HC has not been all that successful. Steve Spagnulo is a great DC but he failed spectacularly as a HC in St Louis (10 wins in 3 seasons) despite his successful stint as DC for the Giants. None of Belichick's coordinators have turned out to be even good HCs.
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19 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
What is worse? NOT winning a Super Bowl?
With Josh on the team we arent winning less than 9-10 games even if I were the head coach. And given the state of the rest of our Division, we should have a seat at that table every year. Not being arrogant or entitled, just realistic. The Division stinks and we dont, and it's ours to lose. So the bare minimum of "making the playoffs" is pretty much a given.
And then if the new coach gets bounced early, well, it didnt work out but at least we werent spinning our wheels hoping McDermott magically changes into something he is obviously not.
ROTFLMAO. Obviously you weren't a Bills fan between 2000 and 2016. I guarantee you that there are a whole lot worse situations for a fan than having your team be a serious championship contender every year.
And for the record, Matthew Stafford never won a playoff game in his 11 seasons with Detroit, and only had 4 winning seasons. In his last season in GB, Aaron Wilson failed to lead the Packers to the playoffs despite playing a full season. Thinking that the Bills are guaranteed winning seasons because they have Allen is just plain ignorance.
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22 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
In most cases Taylor would be fired after this season, but that's the one advantage of working for a cheap owner. Look how long he kept Lewis. The trick in Cinny is to win in the last year of your contract, that gets you re-signed and even if you lose after that, you're safe until the contract runs out.
Sad but true.
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12 hours ago, PBF81 said:
First of all, I love your choice of words. "Blow things up."
So firing a coach that has obviously held us back is "blowing things up" despite keeping most else, particularly a generational talented QB, in place then?
Otherwise that's simply not true. Those that simply want entertaining football in general and for whom winning a Championship isn't as important, yes, "not wanting to blow things up" does in fact mean that they don't care if we win in the playoffs.
Pick your words better. Every Bills fan wants the team to win. We all want an extra million dollars too. But there's a huge difference between caring whether or not we do and wanting to. Does that really need an explanation?
LOL
No, it stems from the theory that the #1 thing holding us back come playoff time is McDermott. Allen covers a wealth of issues that closes that gap and is the only part of our team that shines with any regularity whatsoever come the postseason.
This season we're 0-2 against teams that appear to be headed for the playoffs, with one of those losses entirely on coaching, and clearly the other, the shellacking at the hands of the Ravens also having a good bit to do with coaching and preparation. For those that care about beating the Fins, whom we own, twice, the Jets, LOL, the Jags, Titans, Seahawks, and Cards, good for them. I think all of us are happy we won those games. No one has argued that.
How many people were claiming that the Ravens or Houston loss wasn't that bad? ... with 10 and 20 point offensive performances against the 22nd and 14th ranked scoring defenses.
It's ridiculous not to see significant coaching issues come playoff time with this team. In that regard, again, if a regular season record is more important than not underachieving in the playoffs, that's in the eyes of the beholder. Many think that it's a real shame that there aren't more fans that care as much about winning in the postseason as they do in the regular season, but more importantly, reconciling why the winningest team in the regular season over the past x number of years doesn't have a postseason record to match.
That is something that clearly you won't be convinced of.
How exactly does a team fire a HC and NOT "blow things up"???? A new HC is going to bring his own philosophy and his own people, and that means that a significant number of the current players are not going "fit" what the new coaching regime wants ... and a bad scheme fit can make an All Pro look pretty ordinary. Allen could suffer if he was in an offense like those in San Francisco and Miami which wouldn't fit his playing style all that well.
Your "theory" isn't a theory at all. It's simply your belief -- or more precisely, your prejudice. You have no real proof and no way to actually acquire proof because coaching success is dependent on so many other factors, including team ownership and team management. Bill Belichick was fired from his first head coaching stint in Cleveland in the 1990s because he didn't win enough. Andy Reid was run out of Philly because he didn't get to the Super Bowl enough.
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43 minutes ago, ToGoGo said:
McDermott is the scapegoat for all the fans with issues.
Only a Super Bowl will exorcise the demons inside many of those fans.
Guaranteed that there will complainers even after a Bills Super Bowl win.
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4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Fair enough, and I am definitely not saying he should be fired today. I'll give him one more playoff series to work with. And mark my words, if McD proves me wrong and does win a Championship, then I am all for giving him a lifetime contract and carte blanche to do whatever he wants whenever he wants however he wants.
My easy answer is: that's not up for us to decide. That is why Terry pays the consulting firm a lot of money. And there werent many people around when we were complaining about Rex Ryan who were arguing for Sean McDermott (or even knew who he was at that point).
But if you want names of guys I've never met or interviewed then I'd say:
Mike Vrabel, from a situational awareness/master of the game perspective. A Belichick disciple who, more than once, has beaten BB at his own tricks with pushing the limits to the rules of the game. I'd even gauge his level of interest in keeping Joe Brady at OC.
Outside of Vrabel, any of the hot OCs, Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowick, whoever. Since nowadays, if you dont make your OC the HC then someone else will and you'll always have instability for your QB.
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btw, now that I answered your questions. Who do you have as a HC who took 7+ years with his QB to win a Super Bowl?
You want to fire McDermott to hire Vrabel????? Seriously??? 🤣 Belichick disciples have been notably unimpressive as Head Coaches at best, so that's NOT a point in his favor. In his 6 seasons as HC in Tennessee, Vrabel has a record of 54-45. Three of his teams made the playoffs. His playoff record is 2 wins, 3 losses with the 2 wins in the same season -- wild card and divisional wins, which isn't any better than McDermott's playoff record.
The history of the NFL is littered with "hot" OCs (and DCs, too) who failed miserably as HCs.
As for "wasting Josh Allen" by not making conference championships that's bull manure. Playing in the playoffs every season isn't "wasting" a QB's talent because making the playoffs in the NFL is incredibly hard --especially when a QB is at the mercy of mercurial ownership as well as front offices and coaching staffs of questionable quality so their opportunities are extremely limited. Ask Matthew Stafford. He played for the Lions for 11 seasons and made the playoffs 3 times and never won a single playoff game.
As for your question, "btw, now that I answered your questions. Who do you have as a HC who took 7+ years with his QB to win a Super Bowl?", as the disclaimers on personal injury lawyers' ads always says, "prior results don't guarantee future outcomes".
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10 hours ago, Einstein said:
While this is true, it’s not altruistic on the NFL’s part. It’s collectively bargained.
The NFL saves money by not having to pay out of pocket to support former players. And they do so by fining current players. This is a cost saving measure - not a good deed.
Both the NFL's pension and health care provisions are paid for by the NFL and were negotiated with the NFLPA. Under the 2020 CBA, the NFL currently contributes $2 billion to player benefits. Player fines go into a fund to help out players who may have extraordinary medical bills, and that, too, was negotiated.
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10 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
What a weird amount to fine someone. That extra 29 cents will really drive the point home.
My guess is that it's a percentage of his salary.
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14 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Remains to be determined. If Von comes back and helps us win a couple playoff games (dare I say a Super Bowl?) then it's Von. Better signing because signing him was signing a player who could put you over the top. Signing Mario was always dumb because that team was nowhere near ready to compete with the big boys.
Even if Von doesn't help the Bills get to the SB, his was the better signing because the Bills were actually trying to build a SB team. A player can't help getting hurt.
The Bills signed Mario Williams simply to put butts in the seats. They needed a big name to once again con fans into supporting a team that always put profit ahead of winning during Russ Brandon's reign. Williams played for the Bills from 2012 through 2015, making All Pro in 2013 and 2014, but his success was personal because the cast around him lacked talent. His HCs were Chan Gailey, Doug Marrone, and Rex Ryan. The QBs for the Bills were Ryan Fitzpatrick, EJ Manuel, Kyle Orton, and Tyrod Taylor. The Bills went 6-10, 6-10, 9-7, and 8-8 and never made the playoffs with Williams on the team.
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13 hours ago, Simon said:
I do not believe for a second that whoever made this mess had the slightest clue what the hell they were looking at.
You have two different QB's listed for both Carolina and Indianapolis.
In both cases they are somehow on opposite ends of the separation spectrum?
With the same receivers?
Bo Nix, Justin Fields and Will Levis are all more accurate than Josh Allen?
The entire thing is patently ridiculous.
The problem isn't the graph. If you wish to evaluate the Bills' WR separation after the Amari Cooper trade, then use the graph of the Bills' WR separation data from weeks 1-6 and the same graph with data for weeks 7-8. Any type of graph or table based on data from weeks 1-8 won't tell you what you're trying to find out.
11 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:Shakir is the best receiver we have ever had by catch percentage... his ability in this area is simply uncanny. Normally HBs and TEs dominate this stat, but Shakir is like a Hoover vacuum. 86.7% last year and 94.7% this year for catch percentage is outer worldly! Separation, shmeparation if you can catch...
Sure-handedness >>> separation.
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13 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:
Man I don't trade him. Keep him for the run. We are 1 injury away from needing him.
Some people do not seem to grasp the concept of depth, especially for a playoff contender.
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I'm counting the hours to the NFL trade deadline ...
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13 hours ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:
Would you say he's better or worse than Jerry Hughes during our playoff runs? I don't watch the Chargers very often, how did he get 17 sacks last year? Genuine question. That's more than anyone we've had in a long time
Despite Mack's 17 sacks last season, he didn't seem to have a significant impact on the Chargers defense. The Chargers won only 5 games last season. Their defense ranked 31st in passing yards allowed and 29th in YPA allowed. IOW, he put up big meaningless stats. Pass.
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3 hours ago, FireChans said:
Rodgers really ruined his own legacy.
He was a top 3 QB for nearly 15 years and only won a single Super Bowl.
All QBs have different situations, but this isn’t a “Mahomes is in Josh’s way” or “Brady is in Peyton’s way.”
The story of Rodgers is going to be “all time great player, but his personality and leadership held him back.”
Even Brady, a notorious psycho, has former teammates who gush about him. Nobody has former teammates who routinely trash him or just have nothing good to say like Rodgers.
He has gotten only worse since being empowered, first by Green Bay and now by the Jets. The Packers saying enough is enough and taking Jordan Love was an all-time move. Love may not ever be elite, but that team had to cut out Rodgers to move forward.
Absolutely spot on.
2 hours ago, Gregg said:I am surprised they haven't cut Greg Zuerlein yet. He has been awful this season.
I think he knows where Woody Johnson has buried his skeletons.
2 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:and they lost to the freaking PATRIOTS
... led by backup QB Jacoby Brissette!
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3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
It is Woody Johnson that allowed Rodgers to have this much control yes. But at the same time, Rodgers put this team together on how he wants it.
Would any reasonable owner, including Jerry Jones, undermine his GM and HC by giving a player control of personnel? Giving your great QB input on personnel is one thing, but the situation in NY is unprecedented.
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9 hours ago, bills6969 said:
Watching the ineptness of front offices such as the Jets, Browns, Carolina etc, just all the more makes me appreciate ours.
It's a reminder that fans should be careful about what they wish for because they might get it. The Pegulas hit the jackpot when they hired Beane who had never been a GM before. They might not be so lucky next time, particularly if they were to "clean house" in the front office (and likely coaching staff) by firing Beane.
5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:Can we now conclusively say that the problem the Jets have is Aaron Rodgers?
I disagree. The problem with the Jests is owner Woody Johnson. For most of his quarter century of ownership of the Jests, the team has sucked. In the early 2000s, the Jests had some decent teams with talent left from the previous regime (Bill Parcells). They also had a couple of good seasons under Rex Ryan, but they've had only 1 winning season in the last 13 years. The last even moderately successful QB the Jests drafted and developed was Chad Pennington whom they kicked to the curb for Brett Favre in 2007 -- and like Geno and Darnold, went on to play pretty well for the Dolphins for a couple of years. Johnson's GMs (Bradway, Tannenbaum, Idzik, Maccagnan, and Douglas) have spent a fortune of draft capital on QBs with very little success ... at least for the Jests.
Hopefully, Johnson never sells the team ... and lives a few more decades.
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9 minutes ago, Einstein said:
What an amazing start to Sunday!!!
Jets go down
Dolphins go down
Too bad the Colts TD didn’t count.
Ravens lost.
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On 10/26/2024 at 1:45 PM, Mr. WEO said:
Flutie was certainly a bust before he went to the CFL--not able to do much on 2 different teams. He was 8-5 as a starter in NE, but he wasn't productive and threw more INT than TD.
How can an 11th round (#285) round pick ever be a bust?
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11 minutes ago, Logic said:
I don't think anything the Bills have done over the past 12 months signals that 2024 is an "ALL IN" (to use your phrase), push-your-chips-into-the-center-of-the-table type of year.
They've been cutting veterans, shaving salary cap, and hording (and using) draft picks to re-stock the cupboards with young talent.
Everything they've been doing, in fact, points to 2024 being a soft re-set year, with 2025 and beyond being the years they hope to open a new and sustained window of Super Bowl contention.
For Beane to suddenly turn around and flip multiple high draft picks for Myles Garrett would be very, very surprising to me. I don't think it's gonna happen.
I think that the media types are assuming that Cooper is a part-season rental, but my guess is that it's really a try out to see if he fits the Bills and he wants to be a Bill in 2025. I would love to have Myles Garrett on the Bills but I don't think it happens even if Cleveland was interested in dealing him, which I'm not sure they are.
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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:
Flutie in Buffalo....
Flutie was never a bust. He chose to play in the CFL because he realized he'd never get a chance in the NFL because he was considered too small. His situation was much like Warren Moon who also chose the CFL because he didn't want to play any position but QB and knew he wouldn't get that chance. Both had great careers in the CFL before coming into the NFL and proving themselves.
1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:Pretty lucky that the same didn't happen with Allen. I really think the key is the correct development approach. Even Mahomes didn't play much his first year. Was Daboll here Allens 1st year or was it Greg Roman?
Absolutely true. Under the control of the Bills' Evil Genius Russ Brandon, the Bills offensive coaching staff was sketchy at best when they drafted Allen. The Bills "QB coach" in 2018 was a guy who hadn't actually coached QBs in 20 years, and only did that for a year on the college level. Brandon was fired in May, 2018, and Beane was given full GM powers. After the 2018 season, all of the offensive coaches except Daboll were fired and Ken Dorsey was hired as Allen's QB coach. The rest, as they say, is history but it could have been very different for Allen, too.
Smith, Baker and Darnold all were drafted by substandard, perhaps even dysfunctional, organizations. Hell, the Jests under Woody Johnson, can't even put together a good team with one of the greatest QBs playing for them. What chance did Smith and Darnold really have with them? Once a high round QB fails for his original team, he's generally relegated to backup status. Smith, Baker, and Darnold all spent time as backups under great coaches with excellent assistants (Carroll, McVay and Shanihan) and emerged as better QBs for it. Once again, coaching matters.
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Is the NFL declining?
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Fixed it for you. 😁