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32 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said:
Sea has a 1, 3, 4 and a 5 this year...I'd be ok with a swap of 1's and maybe throw in a 5th and a 7th round this year...But I won't give up a 2nd this year with a swap of 1's and have to save your teams poor salary management
To me you try to trade back into the teens with someone and pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd or 4th depending on who it is. If it is the Giants from 17 for instance, you should garner a 2nd and a 3rd. They'd over pay slightly but to me it's worth it. To pick at 17 then have all those extra picks and then give the Seahawks what they need to get pick 21. Then you make the trade for pick 21. To get the teens pick, the pick at 21 and still have a 2nd and 3rd rounder but also giving up an our original 2nd and 3rd rounders = winning.
Pick 21 = 800 pts
Pick 40 = 500
Pick 74 = 220
Pick 112 = 70
Pick 158 = 27
That should get it done.
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1 hour ago, BillsFan1988 said:
By the chart it would take a 4th & 5th along with the 2nd & 3rd to move up from 40 to 22. Btw look out for Sea as a possible trade partner also at 21
That's why I quoted myself. Trade back and get the extra 2nd and 3rd so we can recoup for the loss of trading for the extra 1
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10 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I love Dion, but man his body looks pretty sloppy in those pictures. Not that I should judge from my couch, but he looks a little out of shape.
Man, if we take a Tackle in rd 1 we'll know why. Geez. Maybe it's just the camera angle. But doood LOL. Looks like he should have been in an earlier training program. Like one that could have started 3 months ago.
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On 4/8/2019 at 8:06 AM, NewEraBills said:
I can spot the possible trade partner too. If I'm Beane, I'm working the phone with Baltimore's Eric DeCosta. The Ravens need the picks. They do not have a 2nd and they are a prime trade partner to move from pick #22 in the 1st to get that extra 2nd rounder and we'd most likely have to throw in the 3rd as well. But with 2 Fours, we could still maneuver back into the bottom of round 3.
Just to quote myself on this, I think if Ed Oliver is off the board, you trade down and try to pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd. Take Jonah Williams, Devin Bush, or Brian Burns. Now with an extra 2nd and 3rd you can trade with Baltimore or Seattle but still have a 2nd and 3rd rd pick. With that 2nd 1st I'd take N'Keal Harry. In round 2, do what I can to get Jerry Tillery and in rd 3 take Dawson Knox or the Sternberger, or this may be a good spot to take whatever we didn't take in rd 1 like OL or one of the remaining pass rushers. The thing is there will be plenty of guys to choose from in every round. 9 days fellas, 9 days.
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I think he still has room to improve his recognition, but the last game of the season was very promising in that regard, so hopefully coming in this year he picks up where he left off and adds to it becomes a standout defender in the entire league.
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46 minutes ago, NickelCity said:
Vlad Ducasse is still on the team??
I was going through the photos and getting hyped then I saw Ducasse and was like way to dampen the mood. Way to dampen the F'ing mood!! LOL
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Plan A 3 Round Mock
1. Ed Oliver
2. N'Keal Harry move up slightly from 40
3. Titus Howard, Eldgton Jenkins, or Dru Samia
Plan B 3 Rd Mock
1. Trade into the Teens - Jonah Williams
2. Trade the extra 2nd from Trade 1, 4th and 5th to Baltimore or Seattle for Pick 21 or 22 - N'Keal Harry WR Arizona State
3. Pick 40 - DT Jerry Tillery ND - or use the ammo from the extra picks and trade up for him.
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32 minutes ago, glazeduck said:
I think you can make that argument -- certainly ONE OF the top WRs. There's a lot of ways to play WR -- not everyone needs to be Desean Jackson fast or run Antonio Brown type routes...
When you watch DK's tape a few things stand out:
1. He's extremely difficult to press and is a great hand fighter -- that creates separation
2. His mass + explosion creates a "snowball rolling downhill" effect very quickly, so he's hard to move off his route -- when you're where your QB needs you to be, when he needs you to be there, you don't have to have as much separation (+added bonus of playmaking ability with the ball in his hands)
3. His routes and short area quickness are far from perfect, but his size, strength and general size make him a bear fir defenders to have to work through. If he gets his face across the defender's, he's got him beat, end of story -- that's also separation
4. He's got an enormous catch radius -- that can also create separation both laterally and vertically
5. The concern about his lack of production -- for me -- isn't the lack of production, in itself at all, but rather the inability to have enough game tape to see him play and react to different situations... From the small sample size that there is though, it appears that he's also a very smart, focused and competitive WR. You can see him set up his man mid-route, you see catches that only the most gifted AND focused of players can make, and I don't think I saw one ball thrown his way that he didn't give 110% for.
6. On top of all of that, he can definitely be an effective run blocker, when he wants to be.
Cards on the table, I've fully talked myself into DK at this point, and (as has been said many, many times) no question he comes with some uncertainty... But at 9 -- barring Quinnen Williams falling far enough to be gettable -- and with the positive momentum this franchise has going for it, I think hitting on the highest ceiling player in the draft is too exciting of a prospect to pass on. If he's healthy, that is!!!
And just to add one more thing;
7) Currently the Bills have nothing like him. Metcalf's game is physical and he's an open WR even when he's not open. That's the type of guy Allen needs. But alas, as long as we get a top talent whenever we pick I'm not going to be too fussy about whoever it is. If it is OL, I may have preferred something else but as long as it is a top OL talent then I'm good. If it is, DT, LB, CB, DE, WR, TE ect. I certainly have some positions I would be disgusted if we take it at 9 but if we do we do. I'll come around.
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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:
I remember him, he was projected to go in the high 2nd round but fell to the 3rd. Wasn't he an OLB coming out?
Yes, and I'm thinking he'll probably be used more in that role than as a hand in the dirt player.
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43 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:
I get your point, but what if JA never had great options to go with the TE bread/butter routes in 2018 because of who he was forced to play with at that position? I would be open to seeing how a better talent there would also allow Allen to make those different throws with a higher trust level/completion %, and thereby making Allen’s overall skillset more well rounded.
I think even when you look at his college tape, Allen's best throws are on the perimeter and the deep post from the perimeter. This is not to say that he didn't throw to the TE at Wyoming, but in 2016 Gentry and Maulhardt were his leading receivers. Gentry by A LOT. His last season at Wyoming his leading guys were Austin Conway and CJ Johnson, nobody else was even close. His rookie season I think Daboll tried to cater to this by featuring a great deal of go routes, deep digs and deep crossers. All of these ran by WR's. So to me, if that's my guy at QB and I'm trying to play to his strengths, I'm not taking a TE in the first round. The passing game seems to be perimeter focused, ie, outside/IN unlike NE who attacks inside out but predominantly inside. If my passing attack is Inside/Out focused then I'd take Hock immediately.
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As an interior lineman I can dig it completely. The Colts entire offense shifted due to Quenton Nelson. But if you want a tackle, why not take Dillard instead?
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I can spot the possible trade partner too. If I'm Beane, I'm working the phone with Baltimore's Eric DeCosta. The Ravens need the picks. They do not have a 2nd and they are a prime trade partner to move from pick #22 in the 1st to get that extra 2nd rounder and we'd most likely have to throw in the 3rd as well. But with 2 Fours, we could still maneuver back into the bottom of round 3.
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2 hours ago, WotAGuy said:
They’ll take the CB and I’ll sit back and watch the board implode.
Actually, I heard a compelling argument for Murphy by a PFF guy on One Bills Live the other day. He cited some of their analytics that said CBs can be bigger difference-makers than pass rushers. Something along the lines of “you can still complete a pass under great pressure, but it’s harder to complete a pass under great coverage”. He also cited the Bills’ defensive strategy of playing mostly zone and Murphy is the best zone cover CB that they rated.
It sounded crazy at first but he made a good argument. If the top 6 D-linemen are gone by #9, you take the best player available at another position, because chances are they will be rated higher than DL #7.
I watched that too. I wouldn't be too upset with it honestly. But my thing is you better take Ferguson at 40 because you have to get to the QB at some point. Guys can't cover all day.
1 hour ago, Cripple Creek said:White
Here is the thing with White that people fail to realize. If he is versatile, then he could potentially be the pick. People forget, Luke Kuechly actually started off in Carolina at Outside Linebacker. Jon Beason was playing in the Middle. Luke did not move to the middle until Beason got hurt and the rest is history. So I wouldn't rule out White at 9.
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20 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:
@NewEraBills
I think Allen can make any throw. Hockenson & Beasley. Gronk & Edelman. There is a precedent for having a great TE and slot guy working over a defense together. I’m not saying the two pairs of players are equal, but the concept of how to use them is already established and Daboll knows it inside out.
I think they did enough in FA to shore up the O-line that we don’t have to go OT at 9.
I'm not saying he cannot make any throw. I'm focusing on his best throws. And the best way to get a young QB to improve is to accentuate his strengths immediately. Your premise with the pairings cited is that the NE way is the best way for Josh, and I'm suggesting that Josh and Brady are two different guys. If I had Brady as my QB, I'd take Hockenson at 9 and not look back. But that's not who I have. I have a QB that likes to throw the football down the field, has the arm to do so. I'd be focusing on TE as secondary when I have a QB with those traits.
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If this is about Josh Allen, which it is, then I I don't like the argument for Hockenson. If Allen's best passes are to the perimeter, which if we study the tape, this is exactly the case, then I'm getting my guy someone that accentuate his strengths. My argument has nothing to do with Hockenson as a prospect but more about Allen. I wouldn't take at TE in the first if my QB's best throws are to the perimeter. Secondly, Beasley, as the slot guy (something that Cam did not have a great presence here), can serve in the Greg Olsen role working the middle.
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14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
I expect a RT prospect in the 3-4 round
If Beane is following his predecessors you can expect the Bills to take at least one OL every draft. And I agree, I'm expecting a tackle in the 3-5 range. I think the Spain deal is a 1 year deal so I'd put money on two OL between 3-5. One interior and one Tackle.
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Love this signing. With the draft I would be looking for Tackles mostly.
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8 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:
I'm curious to what your thoughts were on Josh Allen this time last year?
I thought he had a ridiculous arm, was a good perimeter passer, had tremendous trouble reading defenses, was somewhat athletic and didn't want the Bills to take him. Yes I did not want the Bills to take him because I thought his development was going to take a very long time. I admit it, I did not want the Bills to take Allen but at the same time thought he had ridiculous traits. Admittedly, I didn't want to take too far of a step back from the playoffs. I felt that a QB like Mayfield or Rosen could get us back there, but I even posted in threads about them that we will not take them. I didn't think Allen could get us back there last season. In any case what it taught me film study wise is to look for NFL traits. Look for the traits first, then look at the stat line. Secondly, there were other things that I just couldn't know, like what type of person Josh was and what his leadership looked and sounded like; what his study habits are; what his drive to win is like so on and so forth. These are things that come out in interviews.
With respect to DK, I see a lot of NFL WR traits. The injuries are a concern. But other than that, I think he can be special at the position.
30 minutes ago, billspro said:Metcalf has 1100 yards this season if he doesn’t get injured. Moss played in a much easier conference. The Hill comp is just a joke, the are not even in the same league as prospects.
Agreed and I wish people would stop with this nonsense. I hear and read the Stephen Hill comparisons but to me that's someone who hasn't looked at Stephen Hill nor DK Metcalf. Some of the reasons Hill failed IMO is because while he ran a fast 40, Hill is a long strider which didn't bode well for him getting behind NFL DB's. Secondly, those long strides hurt when trying to learn the route tree. Third, Hill's footwork was average. Hill was the essential definition of a one trick pony. Anyone who's watching critically wouldn't even put these two in the same category. Hill was advised to stay in school and the NFL advisory board projected him as a 3rd round pick. None of this is the case for DK Metcalf, so I wish people would stop with the foolishness.
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8 hours ago, matter2003 said:
He is David Boston...more in love with bodybuilding than football, he is getting too big, too muscular, leading to shortening of the muscle and range of motion that can be seen in his terrible change of direction and lateral quickness drills...this will lead to many injuries and will shorten his career. I'd avoid at all costs. He might be good for a few years but his career will be drastically shortened and he will be out of the NFL within 5 or 6 years.
Go watch Harry's Pro Day and watch DK at Ole Miss Pro Day. Who looks bigger? They look about the same size to me. That USA today pic of DK was directly after a workout where the muscles are still pumped with a lot of blood. But at his pro day he didn't look nearly that big.
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3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:
The Gettleman that just gave away OBJ? That Gettleman?
Yes that Gettleman. He drafted Benjamin.
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1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:
Good post, except McBeane thought Kelvin Benjamin was a #1 WR. And Boldin and Matthews and Maclin and Cotchery were good, and did nothing to keep Sammy, Woods and Goodwin.
Well let's be honest though, Gettleman thought Benjamin was a #1 and he did play like a #1 prior to the injury. Beane and McDermott thought they were getting some of that guy and since it was relatively cheap why not take a flier.
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37 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Polite is garbage. Please no
Got to see Polite live vs Vanderbilt. Didn't even notice he was on the field.
1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:I think they are taking Devin White. If he is gone, I could see them working a trade down with the Patriots, who then take Hockenson.
Actually I would not be surprised by this at all. Gronk has pretty much been the centerpiece of their passing attack since his rookie season. While they still have Edleman, it'll be tough on them without Gronk or someone to that calibur unless they take a premium wide out. The issue however, is that I don't think Brady's arm is good enough to take advantage of perimeter mismatches anymore so they would do better to have a guy that can stretch and put pressure on the seams.
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Daniel Jeremiah mock #3 (Hockenson to Bills)
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Wouldn't be thrilled with the pick but wouldn't hate it either.