Stank_Nasty
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They dont take a corner or a RB in round 1 and this board struggles to find something to fight about for an hour or 2(a record). It would honestly be a great time for @Royale with Cheese to fill the void with his thoughts on ranch.
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1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said:
A lot of people don't even have him as RB1 in this draft. But you guys are so convinced he's amazing. What if the Bills take a RB but it's Spiller?
Thats just false. stop... its more like a handful. if that.
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38 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:
Albright also reported the Browns were taking Darnold. He’s been wrong and right, just like every reporter. Dude isn’t God’s gift to draft secrets.Cool, bro. I didn’t say he was.
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8 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I think that is just becuase everyone knew Baker was goin to the Browns and that the Jets were gonna take Darnold. So it was 50-50. I know a few people guessed Rousseau. Its just crazy that they would telegraph this move in this way. Its weird.I’m fairly certain that Albright dude, before the draft, was reporting that beane had been putting out feelers for even as high as picks 1 and 2 and it was for Allen.
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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:
This isn’t a big deal to me. I think the Bills would be just fine to use him up for 4 years on a rookie deal and let him walk for a big payday.
AMEN! Use a late 1st rounder on the dude. Drive it like ya stole it for 4 years. Win titles…. Let him walk.
I personally think people wayyyy overrated these late 1st rounders. It’s as if they’re expecting a 10 year all pro. It’s the 25th pick for cripes sake. Take him, beat the freaking brakes off him. Win… move on.
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54 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:
Reasons I hate the idea:
7. The genius title for Beane would have to be revisited- this would be an error in the overall plan of a continued successful team.
Oh god. Stop it…. Good lord dude.
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1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said:
Anyone still worried when he scramble every so often?
Hes sliding a lot more now, and if memory serves, all of his injuries over the last four years were in the pocket.
He can handle the occasional scramble. Again he’s much better at sliding now than in 18.
well he suffered a concussion miles away from the pocket in 19. The hit vs the raiders that put him in a harness in 20 was definitely outside the pocket. and then last year his foot strain was 30 yards downfield. I"m not here to argue about him running or not running more, just that maybe you have an awful memory.
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17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
He played well the first half of 2021. Was his best football as a Bill IMO. He fell off down the stretch post covid, was probably never quite back to himself. Overall his signing was a lot of money for a lot of meh. He wasn't a disaster. But he wasn't worth what we paid him overall either.
That was meant to say “random STAT” and it was about Oliver. Sorry.
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I think I saw a random stat somewhere about how oliver had 4 sacks called back this year due to penalties by db’s. I dunno how many that is relative to the average DT, but it sure does seem like a big stroke of bad luck.
… and those 4 extra sacks seem to matchup way better with what my eyes were telling me.
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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:
I think most of the smokescreen stuff that teams do this time of year is pointless. But we know teams do it. They're looking for any tiny advantage they can get. I agree with you, I don't think teams really make decisions based on rumors. But if teams think other teams do then they will put those rumors out there.
thats fair. i personally just think its way overused in the media and amongst fans. I gotta think actual FO's get a chuckle out of how much people breakdown their every word this time of year and if its a "smokescreen"
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3 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Ugh!! Please no Rachel Bonnetta!!! That will be the beginning of the end for GMF. She’s 💩
agreed. i'd also like them to permanently fill burlesons slot with Michael Robinson, and not just because he's a huge bills homer. I always enjoy his insight and presence on the show. i also like O'Hara.
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Just now, NewEra said:
Who’s saying they are going to be tricked?
i didn’t. Why would the term smoke screen exist during draft time? Are we just that delusional to think that NFL GMs don’t put out false information? Or are others delusional to think that every rumor we hear is legit and there are no such things as smoke screens?i think the whole smokescreen philosophy is the most overused and ridiculous term there is during this time of year and i think we fans put way more stock into than is reasonable.... i guess thats just me though.
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47 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Yeah there's way too much smoke about the Bills wanting a RB in the 1st round for me to believe it. McDermott saying he would add Thurman Thomas to the team of any past Bill. Beane saying they’ve had 1st round grades on RBs and that Christian McCaffrey was a "sleep good at night pick" when he was at Carolina. And now two years in a row we're connected to a RB at the bottom of the 1st by NFL media guys. It seems planned. Make sure teams drafting beneath us don't try to trade up to draft the player we really want.
24 minutes ago, NewEra said:
so you guys think you've caught onto it but other teams are gonna believe and get tricked into not making a move they're thinking about making?..... ya, ok.
The mental gymnastics that go on around here during this time of year. good lord.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
But the way contracts and the cap work means your roster is never "filled out" for long. So I'd rather take a premium position guy that I might not "start" in 2022 but that will be down the line rather than take the "luxury pick" at running back.
Ehhhh. Havnt we been thinking about “down the line” for a couple decades now? I’ll take the immediate upgrade. It’s not like this is something that’s gonna bankrupt the franchise.
this is probably the wrong thread for all this though. So I’ll be moving on. Good talk, as always.
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6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
So I still disagree on the philosophy, but I take the point totally that just pointing at individual players who bust doesn't prove or disprove the point at all.
Fair enough. I see absolutely no issue with taking a player that can add explosive elements to your offense, regardless of position, once a roster has been filled out like this one has.
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16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Thank ***** they didn't draft JT.
I was gonna reference him but I can’t remember how realistic of an option he was for the first round at the time. I think he went in the 40’s…. But ya. That’s sorta my point. Again, referencing CEH is just lazy. I can mention a miss for any position. That’s not hard. They had a ready made roster and wanted a cherry on top of the offense. IMO the philosophically the logic was sound. They just missed on the player.
Now a team like Pitt with holes all over their roster taking one in the 20’s last year?… that was foolish IMO.
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9 hours ago, ScottLaw said:
That’s exactly my point… CEH was a complete waste of a first round pick… you’d think the Bills would see that from the team that’s bounced them twice from the playoffs the last two years.
I think if they do take an offensive player in the first, McD will be yanking Beanes chain for Hall or an offensive linemen if one of the good ones drops…. Def not for a WR. JMO.
It’s so freaking lazy to just reference CEH anytime a first round runner comes up. He’s just not very good. It was a miss. It that pick was a solid hit their offense would be that much more dynamic.
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
They didn’t miss, he’s a decent RB but they are a passing offense and the defense wins when the ball is in someone hands other than mahomes. Sound familiar? It’s good to have an effective run game but it’s not necessary to have a highly paid RB or one that you spend a premium resource on . Chiefs have been criticized for the pick not because of the player, but because of the positions they didn’t address there - WR and defense.
IMO they missed. He's been pedestrian and injury riddled. Its not a great example to use IMO. If he came in and made the impact a 1st round back should make we wouldnt be hearing anything negative about that pick.
1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:
Since he has been drafted - he has been outplayed by UDFAs and low level FA signings.
The Chiefs went with McKinnon over CEH in the playoffs just last year and Williams in the regular season.
CEH is a back-up level RB that everyone screamed was going to make the Chiefs unstoppable (sound familiar).
The RBs do not get enough touches because the ball should be in the hands of Mahomes.
I will be interested this year with the loss of Hill and the fact that the o-line is a better run blocking than pass blocking unit - do the Chiefs forgo the explosive offense and become a more run first team and what impact dos that have on a guy that wants to force throws.
You ask a player like Mahomes or Allen to be patient for to long and they begin to hold the ball and take shots when given the chance.
Again, i'd blame the scouting and just whiffing on the player. Not the position that was picked.... i dunno why people are having troubles separating the 2.
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17 minutes ago, DCofNC said:
Harris was also a higher rated prospect in most peoples eyes. The Steelers also are a run heavy team. Everyone wants to be the Chiefs, learn from their Edwards-Hillarie mistake, RB isn’t valuable enough to draft high with JA as the QB. The best get 5.0 YPC, Mediocre get 4, the most they get the ball would be 20x a game. 20 yards a game is no reason for a first rd pick, might as well swing for a punter who should gain you 28 yards a game vs the bottom of the league.
So because the chiefs missed on a late 1st round RB, that means never take one? silly logic IMO. if he had panned out nobody would be saying that junk. it was a miss on a prospect, not a miss on philosophy.
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
You had me until linderbaum. He’s too small and a poor fit for this oline, plus he only plays Center and we already have a really good one who we just extended. I’m not sure what they will do at RB yet in the draft so it’s too early to get upset about it but they added one of the best run blockers in the league in saffold, hired run game guru Aaron Kromer as ol coach, and paid Ryan bates. I think they get it.
I thought I read he showed up to his pro day at 300+ and still tested at an elite level.
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15 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:
This is true, except in 2015, which was Carolina's Super Bowl year. They had Prime Josh Norman and Peanut Tillman. And they were dominate and went 15-1. Yeah they lost the Super Bowl, but Tillman tore his ACL near the end of the season. Maybe if he stays healthy, they win the thing. If we want to win a Super Bowl we can't get away with the Levi Wallaces and Dane Jacksons of the world.
Disagree there. Last years team was every bit a Super Bowl squad. IMO coaching errors ended that season and the super bowl run.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
We all want that but look at the way the playoffs went this year. Even right up to the Superbowl. While the Bills' story might have been the hardest luck story of them all, it was far from the only one. When teams lose in the post-season it is often gut wrenching and comes down to one or two moments at the end. Nobody is doubting the Bills blew the last 13 seconds of regulation. They did. Nobody is questioning that ultimately that was a coaching failure whatever the precise detail of what went on. It was. But a lot of playoff games end in heart breaking ways for the losers. This is the NFL the teams are so evenly matched, hell the Chiefs the very next week found a way to lose a game it looked like they had won. Had the Bills beaten the Chiefs they could have won the Superbowl. You just gotta keep banging on the door and hope that one year it breaks your way.
all true... But the Bills loss was a generationally flukey occurrence... and i'm with the OP on the overall premise. Its been super annoying to see Josh keep orchestrating these late game heroics and weird crap happens to totally derail it. its been oddly common for him over the last 2 years. i'll even insert his masterful drive against the titans into that mix. another anomalous event. Up to that point Allen as 29-30 in yard to go sneak situations with the only failed conversion being a botched snap in 19. Flukey once in a season type of deal.... and they just seem to keep happening. I've actually had a handful of buddies that are fans of other teams go out of their way to point this out to me.
Luckily the team is just so dang good they still win their fair share. Still stings though.
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37 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Fair enough, I will agree on that fact alone it was a hair aggressive comparison there. But it was more about his NFL playoff record one and done In the playoffs as a top seed.
And while he made 4…he beat Rex Grossman for the first one.
Got blown out in the next 2 appearances while fielding the top offense those seasons, including one that was the all time greatest offense in history…lost a combined 74-15 in those 2 as well.
His 4th appearance, he was the lowest rated QB that season and his defense and run game carried them all season and through the SB and won the game while he had the single worst performance in SB history by a winning QB.
So while he made more SBs, his not getting done in the playoffs as a whole like Rodgers is still relatively comparable.
for arguments sake(even though i really dont care much), I think bringing up the qb he beat is sorta silly. The bears were a superbowl team. Also, right off the top of my head i assumed Big Ben's 05 game was worse so i looked it up... less yards, 2 int's, 22 rating.
I guess the message you tried to convey was there... But he's had a ton more team success in the playoffs than rodgers.
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4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
No offense but Manning In this convo is comical. He’s Aaron Rodgers 1.0…the super human regular season guy who chokes in the playoffs.Brady won several of his rings with scrubs as weapons. Go look at his offensive supporting cast his first 3 SBs, its a joke compared to what Manning had his whole career. Yet Brady won SBs while Manning set a dubious NFL record (while loaded with HOF weapons) for one and done in the playoffs 9 times just with the Colts alone. Many of which he was the number 1 seed too.
Manning only has a second SB ring because a dominant defense and dominant run game carried him when he was shot and the lowest rated passer in the nfl that year and had the worst SB game for a winning QB in SB history. Otherwise, he would still have his one ring against Rex Grossman.
Manning is footballs equivalent of ARod in baseball (minus the doochey-ness)
Manning made 4 Super Bowls to rodgers 1. That comparison is a bit aggressive.
1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:Tom Brady is absolutely an all-time great quarterback, I'm just not willing to 100% say he's the greatest quarterback to ever live
Lolololol. Seriously? This may have been a thing like 2 superbowls ago…. MAYBE.
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RD 1, Pick 23: CB Kaiir Elam, Florida
in The Stadium Wall
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Honestly I saw Ramsey get punked during that game. ESPECIALLY on the final play. 🤷🏻♂️