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There isn’t a player I want less in FA than Juju.
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I’m ok with bringing Milano back IF we strengthen the DL.
My assumption is that our FO feels Edmunds/Milano can ball out if they play behind a better DL.
I’ll be underwhelmed if the only change to our DL is the return of Star.
This is a strong OL draft, and while I doubt we rely on two rookies to start, we could conceivably draft a very good RT at 30 and G/C in the 2nd. I say that because I’ll be shocked if we bring back Williams now.
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6 minutes ago, Boxcar said:
Getting cut from a really good team while you aren't really being overpaid has to sting. It sucks. I'm not really a fan of the direction they've taken to create cap space so far. They still need a John Brown type receiver.
Tbf neither did Beasley. Neither of those guys were close to 100% when they returned.
I think they've done a great job so far.
With this cap being what it is, you can't have money tied up in a luxury DT and an older Speed WR (especially when you have a young guy primed to step into the #2 role). They re-negotiated Butler's deal and locked up a young/ST linebacker in Andre Smith for below market rate and extended Micah Hyde.
No complaints right now.
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I have no idea what kind of pro Etienne will be. I'd be hesitant to take him at 30 - That said, I do think his upside is Kamara with better acceleration...
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Agree with the move, but still sad to see him go.
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Probably the fairest trade I could think of, but I highly doubt Jacksonville would do it.
The Jets would trade the #2 pick in a second, but the drop off from Lawrence to everyone else, as a prospect, is Grand Canyon sized (unless your name is Chris Simms). Houston would need much, much more than that pick for Watson.
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42 minutes ago, NewEra said:
We didn’t face the same OL tampa did. For the SB, they lost their best OL, in Fisher. The backup RT had to move over to LT and the backups Guard had to move to RT while a 5th stringer was playing guard had to play guard.
Either way, yes, we need to upgrade out pass rush.....but the chiefs will likely have a much better OL than they did vs us and we likely won’t be able to put that kind of pressure on Mahomes.....which means our offense has to be much better, because we aren’t going to hold Mahomes with a TD. Our O was dreadful in TWO games vs the chiefs.
Agreed.
Everyone is going to point to TB as the blueprint, but you can't just recreate their Front 7, and the Chiefs won't always have a beat up OL.
It is good to know that Mahomes can look that bad under pressure though. Shows that there's some things, even the best QB's can't simply overcome.
We certainly need to upgrade the pass rush, but we can absolutely give Josh Allen a more even playing field against KC by re-evaluating the interior of the OL and giving him better and/or more effective weaponry at RB/TE.
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8 hours ago, purple haze said:
Jets are in the NYC Metro area. His off field marketing profile ($$$) will go up exponentially. And, from reports, he likes Robert Saleh. No word on his opinion of Dan Campbell. Jets also have $ to spend on FA and I’d be willing to bet several would come to play with Watson.
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1 hour ago, pigpen65 said:
Milano is a big loss without a doubt. He is a difference maker. Depressing to lose him because, like Shaq and Phillips, there's no amount of sugar coating that can get around the fact that when you lose play makers on defense the defense gets worse.
Need to hit in the draft a bit better during the early rounds.
I can’t fault them too much on Jordan Phillips, because who could’ve foreseen COVID and Star opting out. They also drafted Harry, who was flashing pre-injury and again once he started getting his sea legs back.
Not sure what the deal was with Epenesa. The staff directed weight loss, followed by him not really getting much run all year... need more out of a 2nd Round Pick. Still time for AJ though, and pass rushers can typically take some time when not named Bosa/Young.
Then we have two 3rd Round RB’s and RB is still a glaring need.
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Milano makes sense on a team not paying a QB anytime soon. One that has the cap space to load up on talent everywhere and wants to pay an above average, though not elite, linebacker.
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3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I guess my thing is, if we're willing to pay in that ballpark for an aging warrior on the downhill side of his distinguished career, would it make sense to pay for a guy in his prime?
Agree. I won’t hate it if we get Watt, in fact I’m sure I’ll be pretty pumped... but if there’s ever going to be a position we overpay for in FA, given we have our QB, LT, WR and CB, it should be young EDGE.
I trust Beane and McDermott to fill out the roster once all these contracts, mainly Josh’s, start hitting.
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32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
And if you are just thinking purely about 2021 I wouldn't tell you it is the wrong pick. I still think you have to think about long term positional value though.
A high to mid first round pick, and I’d agree with you, but at 30 - if we ever want to cost effective elite RB - taking Harris or Etienne (if available) is how we’re going to get one... even if it’s only for 4 years.
As a team, with Allen, that should be a contender every year, it changes the dynamic a bit. Especially when we have LT, WR1, and CB1 all locked down with really talented young players.
If there’s an EDGE available at 30 who can hold down that spot at a high level for a decade, I agree, you go there, but that’s highly unlikely to be the case.
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11 hours ago, newcam2012 said:
Let's post a complete career statistic not just one year. Who has a super bowl ring? Allen had a great year. Can't take that away from him. I hope he gets better and becomes the undisputed best QB in the league!. However, let's pause the brakes a little. Many QBs have had good or great stretches and haven't panned out. Kap, Cousins, RG3, Wentz, Cam, Jimmy G, etc... Allen wasn't exactly great in any of this year's playoff games. That is somewhat worrisome. I'm thrilled for the future but I'm not ready to pronounce him as a savior. Mahomes has the ring to flaunt it. He has already earned his title as a franchise QB. Allen still has to proceed and progress forward imho.
Just speaking the the truth sir. No offense intended
Allen won POW in the WC Round, singehandedly winning us that game.
The narrative spun because he had one fumble, late in the game, is so...soooo tiresome.
He was "great" in that game.
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4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
Strongly disagree here.
They were not good the first half of the year but the second half they were very good.
And yes, the Chiefs made them look bad but if having the Chiefs offense score a lot on you means you're bad, then nearly every D in the league is bad. I wonder how the Bucs D would have looked if the Chiefs hadn't lost their OTs and had Mahomes limping.
Second half of the year we put an excellent product on the field, excellent. Doesn't mean they don't still need to work on improvement same as every team but they were very good.
We do need another serious pass rusher, though, no question about it, and it'll be good if Lotulelei returns next year as well.
First half of the season, the defense was absolutely awful. One of the worst in the NFL.
Second half of the season, yes, they were very good.. Top 10 level defense over that time period.
Colts Wild Card Game, they were pretty bad. We won that game on the arm (and legs) of Josh Allen.
Baltimore, Divisional Round, they were fantastic.
KC AFCCG, just terrible... honestly nothing good I can even point to. Absolutely terrible play, scheme and coaching.
That's a pretty weak return on investment for what we poured into the defense lately with cap space and draft pick investment:
-Highest paid DL in football with very recent 1st Round Picks in Oliver, Edmunds and White plus a recent 2nd in Epenesa.
The sum of the season was that this defense is NOT good enough to help us win a Championship. And that's fine, we learned some things about ourselves this season and what we need to address, but the ROI valuation needs to change next year.... far, far too much investment on that side of the ball for what we saw this past year.
I think you see a lot of us dwell on it because Beane did do a good job in putting outs in contracts, which allows us to revamp the defense this offseason if we so choose.
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5 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said:
Do you think if we offered Allen straight up for Watson that Houston would take it?
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13 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:
Everyone has a right to their opinion. Sal has been a very informative guy and points out a lot of things you don’t hear from other WGR guys with data, etc. I don’t think he’s perfect, but he’s not in my humble opinion egomaniacal.
Think what you want, but listen to other cities local guys and you’ll find he’s a lot better than most. I live in another city and you get a lot of the Bulldog stuff. That I will never listen to as it’s just noise.
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2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
Looks like I might be in the minority here but I think I don’t even want them to pay him $6M so I’d be happy to move on from him...Not overly impressed with him in the AFCCG..
Invest a high pick in the draft and maybe find a cheaper FA...Beane seems to do ok finding bargain basement OL guys ...
Same here.
Much like Milano, I don't even care to offer a contract.
Re-sign Williams. Morse and Dawkins are above average OL.
Draft a G/C and hope a new Guard and a healthy Ford provide some more juice to the run game.
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I'll give it a listen, but I do think people have a right to be very pessimistic about the defensive product we saw out there.
For the investment, draft capital and money spent on this defense, it was incredibly underwhelming all year. Culminating in a completely useless performance in the AFCCG in which they looked absolutely powerless to do anything. This after already playing KC earlier this year.
If we loaded up on offense, at the detriment of our defense, that's one thing, but the investment on that side of the ball... for the product we got on the field... needs to change.
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I thought it played a part early on. Tampa Bay wasn't moving the ball in the beginning of the first quarter, while trying to push the ball down the field.
They then came back with 3 straight effective runs, followed by play action off it. From then on, they're offense found it's rhythm.
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1 minute ago, Big Turk said:
Good guards can be found in the late rounds of the drafts...look at Teller as a 5th round pick. Pats routinely find these guys and plug them in as well and they do great, sometimes even as UDFA's. Lots of teams do. Most guards that are very good players were not drafted in the top 2 rounds.
Good point.. More of where I'm going is taking the best Center and maybe use them at G for a year or so and then take over for Morse down the line.
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
I don’t think Najee Harris and 2 mid round interior OL are going to turn our run game around. I love Harris but you’re returning 4 of our 5 OL and letting the only good run blocker go.....hoping that Harris and one more rookie OL can turn around our run game. I don’t think that’s enough.
Our pass rush is going to improve how? Letting Addison and Butler go and signing one FA pass rusher. Everything else stays the same.
I hope we have a better plan to improve the OL and DL. I don’t think this bridges the gap
I think the best chance we have is to draft Najee Harris (if he's there) and then take the best G/C available in Round 2.
We'd have a legit RB1 and the hopes that a healthy Cody Ford and the Draft Pick will provide the run blocking we need on the interior.
I don't see how we're keeping Brown AND signing a FA TE worth anything... I'd cut Brown and sign a FA TE.
On the DL, getting Star back and allowing Oliver to play his true position should help the interior rush.
I would absolutely cut Butler, Jefferson and Addison to use that money on Ngakoue, Dupree or someone.
Hughes - Star - Oliver - Ngakoue is much, much better than what he had this past year and at least gives us a chance at getting home with 4.
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3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
It's going to be very interesting to see what they do with Feliciano. Evvybody loves him. He's apparently buds with the QB and has a bromance going with half the OL. I love me some Mongo too.
Technically, I'm wondering. Several of his shotgun snaps in SEA and AZ were "good thing our QB is 6'5" with great reflexes" scary. He got beat consistently in the AFC Championship game to the point that Marlon Humphrey tweeted "Y’all not ever trying to block for JA17". There are a number of "run play fail" clips in Cover1's "Glaring Run Game Issues" video where Feliciano was the guy who whiffed (obviously, film clips not necessarily representative, and he was hardly the only problem).To be fair, Mongo was coming back from injury and maybe "playing himself back into shape" this season so it doesn't reflect his best, and he said as much in one press conference "I'm not blocking well, I have to do better" IIRC after the Chargers game I think.
What he has brought to the Bills is good RG play who can step in almost seamlessly at C or LG - versatility, something Beane consistently praises about him. WE got great value from him at $4M/year. But if we slot him in as the starting C, we immediately lose that - you don't move your starting C to fill in at LG or RG.
Spotrac has hm getting paid like a starter: 4 year, $33M, $8.4M/yr. I'm not sure he'll be resigned for that. I see Beane re-signing Ike Boettger, trying to keep Williams at RT, and looking for an upgrade at C/G in the draft. So the guard competition would be Ford, Boettger, and rookie with Ryan Bates as the backup C.
I'd let Feliciano walk.
Re-sign Williams to go with Dawkins at LT and keep Morse at C. Then do exactly as you said, draft a C/G in the 2nd or 3rd Round to play the G spot opposite Ford.
I still think a healthy Ford can be a really good player. His tape from college was fantastic.
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36 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
I know Beane has done a great job adding to the interior OL but If Beane wants to win a super bowl we need to continue to upgrade the interior OL. Don't rely on Cody Ford. I know he loves him some Cody Ford. If Ford works out great, but we have to upgrade there.
Cody Ford was an almost "can't miss" guard prospect coming out of college.
We tried him at RT, then moved him back to G, and he promptly got hurt for half the season.
I think we need to give him a shot and hope he is the guy everyone thought he was coming into the Draft.
We have Dawkins, we can re-sign Williams, but we aren't going to have the resources and/or draft picks to replace both guard spots. Ford, to me, is the penciled in starter and then I'd draft the best available interior lineman in Round 2.
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
We saw tonight what the best front 7 in the league looks like. If you plan on building that.....good luck
Yea, I’m down with using them as a blueprint, but most teams can’t just go build the best Front 7 in football... which is what TB has, especially with Vita Vea back.
Ju Ju smith tells Pittsburgh he won’t be coming back
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We have a #1 in Diggs.
Slot in Beasley.
#2 is Gabe Davis (hopefully).
I have no problem bringing in another WR - but Juju is a #2 level WR that will probably be seeking #1 money. Makes no sense for us.