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    Bills 2021 Draft - Overall Assessment

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    9 minutes ago, WideNine said:

     

    I am not seeing a ton of complainers, unless a B or B+ is complaining. If any draft actually lives up to a B grade it is usually a pretty darn good draft when you think of how many prospects wash out a few years in across the league.

     

    I thought they took a few luxury picks and missed a few BPAs at positions of need, but Beane was not working with a ton of picks from the get-go and made the calls he did. I think we can safely say that we are still waiting on Oliver, Edmunds, and Ford to reach that impact potential you expect from where they were taken so some healthy skepticism is not unwarranted.

     

    Beane hit on Allen and that is the biggest feather in his cap right now. He also has shown a solid ability to pick up key FA's when his staff struggled finding the right WRs to fit what they were trying to do on offense Bease in the slot, Brown when we needed to stretch the field, and a #1 receiver in Diggs. They also overpaid for a defensive line that did not get it done last year.

     

    It is a good front office - solid that hits more than they miss and are willing to grow and learn.

     

     

     


    I don’t know if I’m considered a complainer, but I think the ones of us who may/may not fall into that category are simply saying why this draft is a B, and not an A.   
     

    The C or lower graders seem to be few and far in-between.  
     

    I gave us a B, with a retroactive grading clause that if drafting 2 DE’s knocks Addison off this team, it’s a revised A. 
     

    I just would’ve loved Elijah Moore AND Marquez Stevenson.  Etienne wasn’t available and after Pitts, there were no Tight End upgrades.  Diggs-Moore-Beasley-Sanders-Davis-Stevenson would’ve been disgusting, and our WR room would be set for years.  
     

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    Bills 2021 Draft - Overall Assessment

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    1 minute ago, Don Otreply said:

    Regardless of what the fans say/like, Beane did exactly what he said he was gonna do. He and Sean had a plan an they followed through on it, in a year or two when our older vets on the D & O lines are gone or near gone these quality picks will make paying Josh a whole hell of a lot easier to do, and still have quality players lined up to insure we are not a flash in the pan two year window team. Long term success is the goal. 


    I 100% agree with the vision to be a perennial contender.  I cringe when teams load up for a short window.  As a fan, I want sustained success and a shot to win it every year.  
     

    We clearly have that view.  
     

    I just think Josh deserves another piece.  
     

    We’re hoping Knox and the running game develop, while other contenders already have those elements in place.  

     

    I will say, on Gabe Davis last year and maybe Marquez Stevenson this year, we feel somewhat reminiscent to those Steelers teams that developed these mid-late round WR’s and out of nowhere they were studs.   

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    Bills 2021 Draft - Overall Assessment

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    6 minutes ago, Process said:

    I hope this is just talk and we are not really going to keep Addison. What the heck is the plan, to rotate 6 DEs? And spend 3 high draft picks on DEs in two years just to have them play 20-25% of snaps? 

     

    Cut the fat and move on. Let these young guns get some meaningful playing time. Hughes and even the guy we signed from CAR are enough of a vet presence.

     


    I could see us keeping 6, with Johnson as the man out.  

    I can’t stand having Addison on this team, but...

     

    Hughes and Addison are solely outside rushers.   Epenesa, Rousseau, Basham and Obada can all play inside/outside.  If we’re rushing DE’s from inside on passing downs, we’ll want quite a few on the active roster.  
     

    Could also put Harry on the block, with only Star, Oliver and Butler as locks.  
     

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    Bills 2021 Draft - Overall Assessment

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    If they drafted Elijah Moore at 30, instead of Rousseau, I’d probably give them an A.   
     

    I get the Rousseau pick.  I like the potential of it.   If it allows them to cut/trade Addison this offseason, I’ll retroactively bump the draft to an A. 
     

    I just feel like Josh deserves one more piece/dimension.   We’re asking him to go to war against Mahomes who has an elite WR1, elite WR group, elite TE and a running game AND/OR someone like Cleveland who have a strong WR group, solid TE play and a monster run game and Baltimore who got Lamar a bunch of weapons to go with their running game and TE’s...

     

    And what Josh has (that is proven) is an elite WR1 and strong supporting cast of #2 WR’s in Beasley, Sanders and Davis.  Potential at TE and a work in progress run game.  

    All 4 teams look to have solid OL’s.  
     

     

    Bills 2021 Draft - Overall Assessment

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    Just now, Coach Tuesday said:


    I don’t see how anyone can say we’re the same team now that we’ve added two seriously talented lively young thoroughbreds to our d line.  That was the missing link last year.  For one thing I expect about 5-10 more forced fumbles this season which by itself can add a win or three to your record.


    I really have grown to like the two DE picks, along with adding Obada.   Truly, I think we could see a dominant defense again next year...

     

    That being said, Front 7 is the one area I need to see it to believe it from this Front Office.  

    Bills 2021 Draft - Overall Assessment

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    Tough Draft to immediately analyze (as if any are). 
     

    I think it was a very sound, strong Draft...

     

    Made us bigger, more talented and deeper across the lines, took a speed WR/KR/PR and some secondary depth. 
     

    Where the fan frustration can come in is that KC, CLE and all our Division Rivals seem to have gotten noticeably better.  
     

    We have basically the same team, which continuity can be a huge positive, and while deeper - the Draft doesn’t address the fact that KC and Cleveland have more top end talent than us.  
     

    We also need to hope the running game woes can be fixed in-house as the only changes are the additions of Breida and Tackle depth.  
     

    I wouldn’t be shocked to see another big move between now and the start of the season.  

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    2021 NFL Draft Day 3 Talk Official Thread

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    I honestly would’ve liked Elijah Moore at 30, but doubling up Rousseau with Basham actually make me like the pick more.  
     

    It seems we have an idea of what we want this DL to be, and both have talent and will play this year.  
     

    The two OT’s, I get the frustration, but with Nsehke leaving, we didn’t have a swing tackle.  Bobby Hart is a Tackle in name only.   We throw the ball a ton and need to make sure Josh Allen is making all those throws. 

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    2021 NFL Draft Day 3 Talk Official Thread

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    2 minutes ago, par73 said:

    I am not talking just about the 5th round. They had picks in rounds 1-3, and took two developmental DE's. There were plenty of other options.


    Basham is not a developmental DE. 
     

    Rousseau is called that simply because he has a crazy amount of untapped potential.  
     

    Both will be in the DL rotation this year.  

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    2021 NFL Draft Day 3 Talk Official Thread

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    3 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said:

    Which is what Spencer Brown was and is why I understood that.  I guess I’m the only one who is worried about our interior D Line even if Rousseau and Basham can move around, I’d like a pure DT to go along.  And, a CB to develop is nice too.  I understand building for the future especially with big contracts coming up sooner than later.


    We have Star.  You can literally get good 1 techs in the mid-late rounds every year.  
     

    Id like another one too, but the vision for our DL clearly looks like it has one goal... rush the passer.... and then figure out everything else. 
     

    2021 NFL Draft Day 3 Talk Official Thread

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    2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

    Feliciano, Ford, Boetger, Bates is it?


    Morse is good, Feliciano is average and Ford is unproven as a starter, but Bates and Boettger are decent depth.  

     

    I’m fine with these guys, given how the Draft played out.  
     

    More than relieved that we addressed Tackle depth.   Bobby Hart wasn’t it. 

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