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22 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:
great post, I agree 100% with you.
The issue is that our 3 QBs are very different and need different types of WRs and TE's to be successful.
Peterman is a quick strike guy. He needs a guy open in tight spaces. KB and Kerley do that well. Z Jones is supposed to be that guy. Clay is good, but Croom and Lee have done well here too. Reilly fits here.
AJM is a middle of the road guy. Needs a balanced approach. KB, Clay, Kerley, Reilly are good fits as possession WR. Maybe he can get Coleman open deep. At TE Clay is solid here, as is O'Leary and Thomas who blocked like a mad man last game.
Allen needs a burner. A Goodwin type burner. Coleman, Streater, Dupre, Foster all become more important. Clay is still TE1, but Croom and maybe Lee fit in more here. Pass attack first with Allen.
The cuts will be interesting this year at WR and TE. Croom and Lee made big catches, and Thomas was a blocking machine. Ray Ray looked amazing. Dupre and Proehl looked bad in PG1.
I don't think the cupboard is bare, I think WR and TE need to be paired down to the type of offense Daboll wants to run with a known QB.
Agreed.
KB, Coleman, Kerley, Zay and Holmes all seem like locks.
I’d love to see another pickup of a speed guy. Grab the fastest WR off cuts or seek another small trade, if possible, to add to that group. That gives us a nice blend of size, speed and possession guys.
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If Allen is going to play this year, I think we need another speed guy at WR.
Coleman is that guy but hasn’t made it through a season healthy.
KB is big time but not a speed guy. Zay and Kerley are slot guys. Holmes is special teams/red zone threat.
Lots of potential in this unit, but Allen’s best weapon is neutralized a bit if Coleman goes down.
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Darnold can only do what the staff asked him to do. He did it well. I’d be happy if I was a Jets fan watching that performance.
It’s also truthful to point out that most of his throws were of the underneath/dink and dunk variety and that Atlanta’s defense was hilariously awful.
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59 minutes ago, buffalobloodfloridahome said:
It's funny how much this board is split. I for one had my eyes opened watching that game. Most of the miscues were not on Allen it was on Ford or the Oline or the WR making the wrong break. Josh did show that he threw the ball to the wrong spot as well. I think at least one of those deep balls should of been caught. He was under pressure allot and behind the sticks from penalties too many times. Having him play with the ones or even the twos I think you would see a different result. This team always seems to have some depth issues and you could see the drop off as soon as the third stringers came in.
I don’t see a depth issue though. Your depth is 1st and 2nd string. We dominated the first half with those guys in. If not for an interception that was half on Ivory/half on Peterman, we probably throw 20+ points on the board that half.
3rd stringers, for the most part, aren’t making the roster. You watch them to see if anyone stands out. That guy for us was Ray Ray McCloud.
The second halves of preseason game 1 are unwatchable. It’s basically a scrimmage between cuts and practice squad players. That’s why I’m not in love with putting Allen with the 3s. Baker and Darnold all got run with the 2s and then a mix of 2s and 3s.
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I doubt there’s any “there” there but has anyone ever featured someone for a trade so hard that they were like ehhh nvm, this dude might ball out....because that’s kind of where I’m at after watching Benjamin last night.
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This is why I’d really like to see Allen, at least, with the 2nd string.
Both Baker and Darnold are out there with 2nd string OL, WRs and TEs. Allen was out there with Drops Foster, McDermott not blocking anyone, Redmond lollipopping him shotgun snaps and his only reliable target being Ray Ray McCloud.
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Falcons just need to count their blessings that they’re not in the AFCE.
0-4 against our division last year and getting their 2nd stringers dominated against the Jets 2nd stringers tonight.
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1 minute ago, Magnetar said:
Darnold is going to be way better than Allen.
The Bills have to be good for a true rivalry...
How miserable is your life that you feel the need to do this? You were doing it last night as well.
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Pretty sure Atlanta’s defense is refusing to defend WRs and TEs. ...and receiving RBs for that matter.
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Our linebackers are going to have to be strong in coverage. That entire drive was stretch runs and underneath routes.
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6 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:
He played good tonight, if I'm wrong. I'll be fine with it. It has nothing to do with that, it's more so that I don't believe in him.
If you do, go for it. That's your perogatove to believe in a guy with one of the worst halves in history.
It has nothing to do with me being right. I didn't start hating on him when he was picked. I started hating on him when clowns, which you were probably part of ICP, started believing he was better than Tyrod because of preseason. Then when he was mistakingly given a start, the ICP, nor the coaching staff could admit they were wrong. I see this as doubling down on it.
I hope I'm wrong. He played great vs what he faced tonight, but I'm not really believing in that.
He's not better than Tyrod. Last season served as accurate of an experiment as you could have to test that theory.
I’m not a Peterman guy. I’m hoping AJ or Allen start the season, BUT, c’mon man, you’re writing off Peterman for his rookie start, on the road, against an elite pass rush, in which his only legit target gets hurt 3 plays into the game, half our OL seemed butthurt over Tyrod getting benched and guys like DiMarco were handing the ball to the other team.
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I disagree that the Lee throw shouldn’t have been made. He can make it. He made it. It was accurate and only where Lee could catch it.
I didnt think the OL was terrible but he should’ve had a couple more completions and, perhaps, another TD. That would be very similar to Baker’s outing, which is being lauded as the most incredible debut ever by some.
Thing is, Baker was out there with two of his top targets in Callaway and Njoku. Allen had Ray-Ray, Foster, Croom and Lee.
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I’m a Cuse fan and watch a lot of ACC Football, and Ray-Ray McCloud never stood out to me at Clemson. Not a bad player, just never seemed to be a “wow” guy.
(IMO) Last night put him way ahead of everyone else looking for that 6th spot. It’s only one game, and lets see how he backs it up, but he looked like he belonged out there, especially since it sounds like Daboll has been using him like a Tyreek Hill type in practice.
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4 minutes ago, mjt328 said:
The thing that stood out to me was Josh Allen's ability to escape the rush. Even when defenders got hands on him, they couldn't seem to bring him down. It was very similar to what Ben Roethlisberger and Cam Newton bring to the table.
On the night, there were at least 2-3 "wow" throws from Allen. The zip and placement on that touchdown was impressive. I know that people were always impressed with EJ Manuel's physical abilities too, but I don't ever remember being wowed by anything he actually did on the field.
Quite a few of Allen's incompletions were the fault of his receivers. Either drops or poorly run routes. Between the sieve of an offensive line, and the awful play of his receivers - you have to wonder how Allen would look with the 1st or 2nd team.
I don't think you can fault Allen too much on the 4th down play -- simply because it was 4th down. He was trying to make something happen and there was nothing to lose. Now if he does that on 1st-3rd down, it's another story.
I thought Allen was impressive, especially given the OL and WRs he had to work with. His stat-line and perception looks a lot different if Foster makes that TD grab. The media would have that “should’ve been” TD throw on a loop all day.
That being said, he cannot do what he did on that 4th down play. It was tipped up and almost picked, which would’ve led to a convoy of Panthers going the other way. With how good our defense should be, we can’t be spotting teams TD’s like that. It’s ok though, rookie moment and he should be able to learn from it.
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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
If you came out of there unimpressed by Allen you didn’t watch the game. I was with some Steeler fans and they were blown away. The one guy was all fired up yelling at us “how can you not love this guy?!?” He was fantastic. Allen is a great athlete, with a cannon. He made 4 or 5 throws in that game that no one other than Aaron Rodgers can make. I’m excited to see him play with Corey Coleman so he can run under those bombs.
I was honestly thinking the same thing. Only player I’ve seen make the rope throw to Ray-Ray and the TD to Ray-Ray like that, is Rodgers.
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3 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said:
Say what you want about Tyrod's Flaws, but we just traded up for a guy who is 5 for 11 against a third team defense.
Must be the most impressive incompletions ever because the non-agenda driven Carolina messageboard is gushing over Allen in their gamethread.
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Mayfield has 2 TD’s because he’s playing with Njoku and Callaway out there. Sounds like Allen would have a couple too if he wasn’t throwing to a bunch of muppets.
Carolina fans impressed with Allen on their forum btw.
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7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:
Dear God - PUNCTUATE!
I'm thinking Shaq gets moved for a 6th/conditional 5th.
That would be pretty close to the stupidity level of Cleveland trading Coleman for a 7th.
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As much as I'd love Mack on our team, this year, I agree with those who say we're fine there with Hughes, Murphy, Shaq and Eddie. I think the smarter move, if there's truly one coming, is for a LG/RT or improvement at WR/TE.
Now if Oakland is out-leveraged and we can get Mack for a player and pick....that's not to say I wouldn't be all in on that move.
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I mean yea...but I don’t think we’ll be drafting Top 10.
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10 hours ago, apuszczalowski said:
I think the Browns fans who say this was a good move for them are just trying to justify it to themselves, or do t really follow football. It wasnt a salary dump like Dareus. They have plenty of cap room and he was on a cheap deal. It was a move to maybe make room on the roster for someone else or to move him because he didnt fit their system. And of course theres risk for the Bill's in it, you dont get former first round picks on their rookie deals for a late pick if they dont have a blemish or 2. Coleman seems to be an injury risk and hasnt shown what he was expected to be able to do in his 2 years in the league. The Browns have been known for giving up on early picks quickly though.
I also wouldn't really go by the comments of a browns fan, can you really trust their judgement? They did chose to be a fan of the Browns........
It’s equivelant to us trading away Shaq Lawson for a 2020 7th Rounder.
Some here would justify it. People would bad mouth Shaq. Most who know football would criticize it as getting rid of a talented player (albeit underwhelming so far) on a cheap rookie deal.
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2 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said:
A 2019 1st and 2nd, a 2020 1st and a conditional 2020 pick. At least, that's what I would be asking for Mack, if I was Gruden.
To which any GM with a brain should laugh at and hang up.
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Do we need to go after a fairly proven deep threat?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I think there could be actually. Guys like Dorsett, Perriman, Seth Roberts etc have all been rumored cuts at some point over the summer.
Coleman was going to be a possible cut if we didn’t trade for him.
Jets seemed to have 10 skilled tight ends in PG1. If we cut Thomas or Croom, I’m sure other teams wouldn’t mind bringing one of them in.
We’re not looking for a stud. We just need a speed guy to compete/pair with Coleman. We were able to find a Deonta Thompson off the trash heap last year.