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9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
The deep DL rotation is frustrating... waste of cap space to maintain an overall average group.
Use some of that cap space an invest in a good front four instead of spreading it around to an average rotation..... dumb strategy, but looks like they are rolling with it again in 2021.
And that's the difference between us and teams like the Bucs and Chiefs.... too many average players and Josh Allen. Not enough great players.
Can’t really argue with you too much here.
I would’ve preferred they cut Butler, Jefferson and Addison outright - then used that money to go after one of the talented DL that are available in FA.
Alas, they cut just Jefferson and restructured Butler/Addison.
Maybe a full year with the team allows Butler and Addison to be more effective. Maybe Epenesa grows into a legit pass rusher. Maybe Oliver becomes a menace now that he’s playing the position we drafted him for. ....a lot of maybe’s for a DL that still has a lot invested in it.
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18 hours ago, T master said:
I was reading some mock draft stuff earlier and one of the posts i read had the Bills choosing Carlos Basham from Wake Forest .
I watched his high light film and he looked good but i'm not real sure if the competition he played against was top notch or if they were not as good which made him look better than he is .
I know we have a couple of young players in Epenesa & Bam Johnson which i think they could develop into good players as the Bills get to coach them into shape not only with in the scheme but with some more weight training .
I would rather they get a veteran with a proven history like a Von Miller but given the cap this year i don't see that happening plus the Broncos have said they want him to stay in Denver .
I've also read of other DE's that the Bills could sign that are veterans but can't remember off hand who they were because i'v e read so many different posts but am asking if any of you know more about Basham in particular ?
He definitely pops off the screen during their games.
I’d rather take one of the Miami DE’s, if they are there though.
Wake plays in the ACC... I’m not sure why you’d worry about his level of competition. I doubt anyone here is worried about Clemson, Miami, VT, UNC, FSU players etc..
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22 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:
This draft is screaming for the Bills to take a lineman.
Wont be sexy, but the return of Ford, along with a top 100 G/C could massively upgrade this offense’s running game - even with Moss/Singletary at RB.
One thing I’m sure about is that Josh is getting another weapon, somewhere, somehow... Right now, he’s got 3 WR’s, half a TE and two average RB’s... we’re not going into the season with that.
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15 hours ago, DCbillsfan said:
Addison is over 30 so is Hughes. Plus the Bills weren't that good at rushing the passer.
Bills are actually young at CB unless you're talking about Safety with Hyde and Poyer.
CB is a need. I'm hoping they sign one who will start opposite White.
I could see them believing the return of Star, a year of cohesiveness and the development of Epenesa is going to upgrade the DL... but I’m certainly in the camp that’s going to see it to believe it. (Although I do think they’ll be better)Agreed on CB2. Even if they believe Dane Jackson is the guy, we have nothing else on the outside.
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18 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Don’t doubt the Beane
I just don’t know that it makes a ton of sense to bring Feliciano back, UNLESS, they go RB early in either Harris, Etienne or Williams.
Clearly our run game was an issue. It’s wishful thinking to believe it will be solved by simply having a healthy Cody Ford.
Dawkins, Williams and Morse are all above average players at their position, but if we lack outside speed at the RB position, they best way to develop a run game without drafting a RB, would be to draft a dominant run blocker early at G, to pair with a healthy Ford.
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4 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:
Wow Brandon Beane is a magician. Now if he finds and edge rusher and makes it all work under the cap he has moved beyond magician.
YUP. Edge rusher is really the only major piece missing.
If they sign Feliciano, I’ll be shocked. I’d imagine they want to get a dominant run blocker in the Draft at G to pair with what Cody Ford (hopefully) will be. That keeps our pass pro mainstays in tact with Dawkins, Williams and Morse and would give us the ability to hit runs off guard.
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28 minutes ago, njbuff said:
They still have to prove they can beat KC.
They didn't even come close in 2020.
I am excited about the Bills taking that next step, but we shall see.
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Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said:
I was thinking of a John Brown replacement, don’t get me wrong I like Davis as well but idk if he’s a #2 WR just yet
Yea, Davis looked the part last year as a rookie, but it’s certainly a leap of faith if we enter the season with him starting opposite Diggs.
I think we need to give Josh a more balanced attack, rather than finding a Brown replacement. Davis is actually a sneaky strong deep threat.
I’d focus more on building a run game and/or adding TE talent over investing heavy in another WR.
If we don’t bring back McKenzie, that could be a place to go in the Draft with guys like Toney (1st RD), Moore (2nd RD), Atwell (3rd RD) etc.
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Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said:
We definitely need another WR
We have a #1 in Diggs.
Slot in Beasley.
#2 is Gabe Davis (hopefully).
I have no problem bringing in another WR - but Juju is a #2 level WR that will probably be seeking #1 money. Makes no sense for us.
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There isn’t a player I want less in FA than Juju.
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I’m ok with bringing Milano back IF we strengthen the DL.
My assumption is that our FO feels Edmunds/Milano can ball out if they play behind a better DL.
I’ll be underwhelmed if the only change to our DL is the return of Star.
This is a strong OL draft, and while I doubt we rely on two rookies to start, we could conceivably draft a very good RT at 30 and G/C in the 2nd. I say that because I’ll be shocked if we bring back Williams now.
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6 minutes ago, Boxcar said:
Getting cut from a really good team while you aren't really being overpaid has to sting. It sucks. I'm not really a fan of the direction they've taken to create cap space so far. They still need a John Brown type receiver.
Tbf neither did Beasley. Neither of those guys were close to 100% when they returned.
I think they've done a great job so far.
With this cap being what it is, you can't have money tied up in a luxury DT and an older Speed WR (especially when you have a young guy primed to step into the #2 role). They re-negotiated Butler's deal and locked up a young/ST linebacker in Andre Smith for below market rate and extended Micah Hyde.
No complaints right now.
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I have no idea what kind of pro Etienne will be. I'd be hesitant to take him at 30 - That said, I do think his upside is Kamara with better acceleration...
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Agree with the move, but still sad to see him go.
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Probably the fairest trade I could think of, but I highly doubt Jacksonville would do it.
The Jets would trade the #2 pick in a second, but the drop off from Lawrence to everyone else, as a prospect, is Grand Canyon sized (unless your name is Chris Simms). Houston would need much, much more than that pick for Watson.
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42 minutes ago, NewEra said:
We didn’t face the same OL tampa did. For the SB, they lost their best OL, in Fisher. The backup RT had to move over to LT and the backups Guard had to move to RT while a 5th stringer was playing guard had to play guard.
Either way, yes, we need to upgrade out pass rush.....but the chiefs will likely have a much better OL than they did vs us and we likely won’t be able to put that kind of pressure on Mahomes.....which means our offense has to be much better, because we aren’t going to hold Mahomes with a TD. Our O was dreadful in TWO games vs the chiefs.
Agreed.
Everyone is going to point to TB as the blueprint, but you can't just recreate their Front 7, and the Chiefs won't always have a beat up OL.
It is good to know that Mahomes can look that bad under pressure though. Shows that there's some things, even the best QB's can't simply overcome.
We certainly need to upgrade the pass rush, but we can absolutely give Josh Allen a more even playing field against KC by re-evaluating the interior of the OL and giving him better and/or more effective weaponry at RB/TE.
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8 hours ago, purple haze said:
Jets are in the NYC Metro area. His off field marketing profile ($$$) will go up exponentially. And, from reports, he likes Robert Saleh. No word on his opinion of Dan Campbell. Jets also have $ to spend on FA and I’d be willing to bet several would come to play with Watson.
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1 hour ago, pigpen65 said:
Milano is a big loss without a doubt. He is a difference maker. Depressing to lose him because, like Shaq and Phillips, there's no amount of sugar coating that can get around the fact that when you lose play makers on defense the defense gets worse.
Need to hit in the draft a bit better during the early rounds.
I can’t fault them too much on Jordan Phillips, because who could’ve foreseen COVID and Star opting out. They also drafted Harry, who was flashing pre-injury and again once he started getting his sea legs back.
Not sure what the deal was with Epenesa. The staff directed weight loss, followed by him not really getting much run all year... need more out of a 2nd Round Pick. Still time for AJ though, and pass rushers can typically take some time when not named Bosa/Young.
Then we have two 3rd Round RB’s and RB is still a glaring need.
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Milano makes sense on a team not paying a QB anytime soon. One that has the cap space to load up on talent everywhere and wants to pay an above average, though not elite, linebacker.
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3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I guess my thing is, if we're willing to pay in that ballpark for an aging warrior on the downhill side of his distinguished career, would it make sense to pay for a guy in his prime?
Agree. I won’t hate it if we get Watt, in fact I’m sure I’ll be pretty pumped... but if there’s ever going to be a position we overpay for in FA, given we have our QB, LT, WR and CB, it should be young EDGE.
I trust Beane and McDermott to fill out the roster once all these contracts, mainly Josh’s, start hitting.
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32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
And if you are just thinking purely about 2021 I wouldn't tell you it is the wrong pick. I still think you have to think about long term positional value though.
A high to mid first round pick, and I’d agree with you, but at 30 - if we ever want to cost effective elite RB - taking Harris or Etienne (if available) is how we’re going to get one... even if it’s only for 4 years.
As a team, with Allen, that should be a contender every year, it changes the dynamic a bit. Especially when we have LT, WR1, and CB1 all locked down with really talented young players.
If there’s an EDGE available at 30 who can hold down that spot at a high level for a decade, I agree, you go there, but that’s highly unlikely to be the case.
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11 hours ago, newcam2012 said:
Let's post a complete career statistic not just one year. Who has a super bowl ring? Allen had a great year. Can't take that away from him. I hope he gets better and becomes the undisputed best QB in the league!. However, let's pause the brakes a little. Many QBs have had good or great stretches and haven't panned out. Kap, Cousins, RG3, Wentz, Cam, Jimmy G, etc... Allen wasn't exactly great in any of this year's playoff games. That is somewhat worrisome. I'm thrilled for the future but I'm not ready to pronounce him as a savior. Mahomes has the ring to flaunt it. He has already earned his title as a franchise QB. Allen still has to proceed and progress forward imho.
Just speaking the the truth sir. No offense intended
Allen won POW in the WC Round, singehandedly winning us that game.
The narrative spun because he had one fumble, late in the game, is so...soooo tiresome.
He was "great" in that game.
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4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
Strongly disagree here.
They were not good the first half of the year but the second half they were very good.
And yes, the Chiefs made them look bad but if having the Chiefs offense score a lot on you means you're bad, then nearly every D in the league is bad. I wonder how the Bucs D would have looked if the Chiefs hadn't lost their OTs and had Mahomes limping.
Second half of the year we put an excellent product on the field, excellent. Doesn't mean they don't still need to work on improvement same as every team but they were very good.
We do need another serious pass rusher, though, no question about it, and it'll be good if Lotulelei returns next year as well.
First half of the season, the defense was absolutely awful. One of the worst in the NFL.
Second half of the season, yes, they were very good.. Top 10 level defense over that time period.
Colts Wild Card Game, they were pretty bad. We won that game on the arm (and legs) of Josh Allen.
Baltimore, Divisional Round, they were fantastic.
KC AFCCG, just terrible... honestly nothing good I can even point to. Absolutely terrible play, scheme and coaching.
That's a pretty weak return on investment for what we poured into the defense lately with cap space and draft pick investment:
-Highest paid DL in football with very recent 1st Round Picks in Oliver, Edmunds and White plus a recent 2nd in Epenesa.
The sum of the season was that this defense is NOT good enough to help us win a Championship. And that's fine, we learned some things about ourselves this season and what we need to address, but the ROI valuation needs to change next year.... far, far too much investment on that side of the ball for what we saw this past year.
I think you see a lot of us dwell on it because Beane did do a good job in putting outs in contracts, which allows us to revamp the defense this offseason if we so choose.
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5 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said:
Do you think if we offered Allen straight up for Watson that Houston would take it?
Booooo
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Sounds crazy but Jon Feliciano might not re-sign
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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What is the reasoning for those who hope we re-sign him?
He’s an ok player with positional flexibility.
He and Ford would be the weak links on our OL currently.
Ford is only a weak link due to being unproven... he was projected to be a stud G out of college - we’ve since played him at RT Year 1 and then he got hurt early playing Guard in Year 2.
Feliciano is a weak link because he’s not that good. He’s not bad... but he’s not good either.
If we want to have a running game this year, I’d assume Beane wants to upgrade the G positions - especially since LT, RT, C are the same guys. Ford could upgrade one spot... I’m hoping we also try to upgrade the other.