ChiGoose

If he didn't want to get tried in DC, he shouldn't have committed crimes in DC. But his supporters are big mad that he's being held accountable for his actions. Also, if he had listened to his attorney in Florida instead of lying to him and causing him to lie to the government, he wouldn't even be facing charged in Florida. Nobody but himself to blame.

You could try reading the case documents or expert analysis (from people with actual relevant experience) but that might be a bit hard for you. If so, I guess you can just keep railing against the passage of time.

Buddy, you clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. I hope you’re not listening to that Julie Kelly moron.

1. The documents case is actually the opposite of DOA. Any rational defendant would have already settled because there’s very little chance of acquittal. 2. Linear time is really triggering to you, huh?

Well this is 100% wrong but you do you, buddy

Or, and here’s the tricky part, you need actual hard evidence to prove that he knew about it. Here’s an example: let’s say that he says he didn’t know the documents were there but then when investigators look into it, they find several other documents or items dated after he left office mixed in. Or his signature or writing on the documents that can be shown to have been done after he left office. I’m sorry the law doesn’t contort to meet your expectations but I suppose if you just cry a lot maybe you can convince someone who doesn’t know any better that you’re right.

Too bad for you that he didn’t admit to taking documents intentionally and then obstruct the investigation into them.

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel Charges 16 ‘False Electors’ with Election Law and Forgery Felonies Each defendant has been charged with: One count of Conspiracy to Commit Forgery, a 14-year felony, Two counts of Forgery, a 14-year felony, One count of Conspiracy to Commit Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony, One count of Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony, One count of Conspiracy to Commit Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony, and, Two counts of Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony.

Good thing that's not happening here. Though you gotta love the idea that there is a vast cabal across basically every institution suddenly acting in cohesion and efficiency because people don't want to believe the simple explanation that this guy who has always been kinda crappy is actually very crappy.

Very stable geniuses

Ah. I see you are upset that time is linear. Sorry about that bud, but when things happen, people talk about them. When another thing happens later, people talk about that thing too. Can't really do much about it.

I'd say that it's helpful context to help educate those that are gullible enough to believe that judges just go for whichever party appointed them. Then again, most of those people are probably past the point of being educated anyway...

And both these assumptions would be wrong.

"Look at these people, talking about what's in the news. They weren't talking about this thing that happened today yesterday, but now it's their topic of conversation. How strange!" The whole "current thing" discourse / critique is just people complaining that time is linear.

It should come as a surprise to absolutely nobody, but this article from "American Liberty Report News" is complete BS. Fact Check-Claims that 17,690 ballot images from the 2020 Presidential election are missing in Fulton County, Georgia

I honestly have a hard time seeing the trial for his federal crimes being concluded before next Fall. Especially since Trump's strategy is to delay as much as possible.

A Republican winning the White House in 2024 probably ends his exposure for federal crimes.

And they won’t be prosecuted for it because it’s not worth it for a couple of pens and staplers. If you quit your job and took some pens from the storage closet on the way out, do you think your former company would sue you for it? As to the documents cases, the PRA is very clear on this. Just because Pence and Biden are capable of listening to their lawyers while Trump is not does not prove some conspiracy against Trump. It just shows him to be an idiot. Sure. And if they were some government employee or contractor, they would be disciplined up to an including potentially being fired. But they’d only likely face actual prosecution if it could be proven that they took it intentionally or they refused to return it when it was discovered.

Holy cow. This is so unbelievably wrong that’s it’s really hard to know where to start. There was no real factual dispute. Trump’s lawyers knew he wasn’t supposed to have them and told him this. Your argument amounts to “the burglar truly believed that he owned the things he stole even those his own lawyers said he didn’t, therefore you cannot blame him for not returning it. Whoever is feeding you this nonsense is either completely ignorant of reality or just lying to you.

They are not allowed to have any government material without express permission of the agency that owns it, classified or not.

The real issue is that simply explaining reality is seen as partisan because conservatives now live in a fantasy world that facts cannot penetrate.

The issue is obstruction.

No, I got labeled the king because a bunch of people on this site cannot read and also can’t stop bragging about that for some reason. In any case, Trump is facing legal jeopardy because he obstructed law enforcement. If he did what Pence and Biden did, he’d be fine. But he ignored his lawyers and listened to Tom Fitton instead and now he is reaping what he sowed.

I don’t know where you get your information from but whatever it is, it’s absolutely garbage.

It’s not the essence of the dispute in any way shape or form. Trump had no right to the government documents the second he was no longer president. When it was discovered that he had them, instead of turning them over and cooperating like everyone else in his position, he obstructed the government. Then, he turned over some of the documents and lied to the authorities, saying he had returned them all when he in reality has secretly kept many of them. He ended up only getting charged with the documents he lied about. So even though he took documents he had no right to, refused to return them obstructed the government, he would not have been charged had he just handed everything over when he claimed he did.