Royale with Cheese
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Mills graded out better, by quite a bit, than Smith did last year. FWIW,
Yeah I saw that somewhere as well but when it comes to offensive lineman, Im not sure how reliable an outside sources grades are.
Eric Wood talked about this in an interview. He brought up an example of something he would be graded a negative on. Let's say his job is to pull and go down the line to seal a block. However when he's pulling, a DT pushes our guard into him and trips him up. Wood never gets to his guy and he will be graded as a negative on his part even though it wasn't his fault. The only accurate grade is from their position coach.
I'm just guessing that since the Bills went hard after Smith and only signed Mills for back up money....they aren't very comfortable with Mills as the every day RT.
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No loss. His best years are behind him.
It's a loss if Mills ends up the starting at right tackle.
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Let's talk about Chad Kelly
Let's talk about you and me
Let's talk about all the good things
And bad things that may be
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All of this is funny that we still have to argue about it...
If folks want to call this a "bridge contract" using QBs like Bradford and Glennon as points of comparison, that's fine, but Taylor's much more of a deal based on the on-field performance we've already seen. Yeah, Bradford was very good this year, but it's not like that was expected... and please don't pretend you did. Bradford got more money despite being worse than Taylor on the field... living off "hype" and "draft status" largely really.
That's why this is just such a fantastic deal. Because if the team gets some weapons (hellooo Whaley...?) and stays healthy (unlike the Vikings), the Bills could be looking to make more noise than just being the "fringe playoff team" so many are expecting.
Don't get me started on Glennon. That might be Brock Osweiler contract territory...
It's a bridge contract because the Bills put themselves in position to walk away from him in the first 2 years.
Taylor took a pretty big pay cut....great deal for the Bills.
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As long as it's not $7,000,000 per year.
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I can't believe you're leaving Ryan Leaf out of the discussion.Manziel is available, too. I can't make up my mind on which one I want more.
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He also said RG3 was a can't miss.Bill Polian said that Kelly is flat out the most talented QB in the draft. Worth a gamble in the third or later IMHO.
I respect Polian as much as any GM/talent evaluator but it also doesn't mean he's always right.
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I'm not sure just how much worse, but Mixon is getting drafted fwiw. That guy should never play pro ball imo but he will. Kelly is getting picked.
Yeah I hope some defender comes up and crushes him...hurts him badly.
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*I have gotten asked a couple of times why Ole Miss QB Chad Kelly, who was not invited to the combine, has gotten so little mention when folks discuss the 2017 quarterback draft class. Kelly has a strong arm and good wheels but hes got a significant amount of baggage. Im told its considerably worse than what has been reported.
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You bring up an interesting scenario. I don't believe that TT has that type of leverage because of the caliber of qb he is. His primary concern is to make the roster. But the scenario that you bring up does exist in New England. Brady is willing to accept an under-valued contract with the understanding that the money he is foregoing is spread around to improve the roster. Because of his financial status and his household's status it makes more sense to not demand the maximum deal as long as it is used to maintain a SB contending team.
Compare the New England situation with Brady and the Indianapolis situation with Peyton? Because Peyton demanded a maximum deal it stripped away the resources needed to build a more talented roster. I'm not criticizing anyone for pursuing their individual interest in this comparison. But by Brady's willingness to be more flexible with his contract demands it has enabled his team to win more often.
I believe Brady still got his money because Kraft was funding a business owned by Brady. It was a devious loop hole which doesn't affect the salary cap.
I don't doubt this one second.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/20/bradys-business-and-partner-draw-more-scrutiny/
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Some lady who does the commercial reads on espn radio just stated Taylor took a 10 million dollar paycut over 2 years.
Yeah it was in Rodaks article posted earlier today.
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Joe B's take on the contract.
So I thought that Taylor would be our QB for at least the next two seasons but that may not be the case. It would depend on how well he plays and also the QB we draft for the future...how well he develops. I agree that this points to the Bills going after a QB of the future in this draft or the next. If I had to guess....1st or 2nd round in this draft.
http://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/what-the-new-tyrod-taylor-contract-means-for-the-bills
What the new Tyrod Taylor contract means for the Bills
(WKBW) - It was a little less than a week ago that the Buffalo Bills made their decision on starting quarterback Tyrod Taylor -- and once they did, it was also announced that Taylor had restructured his contract.
As we all well know, patience is a virtue, but it had to be practiced until the details of Taylor's new contract came out. Well, at long last, they're out -- and the specifics of the deal will make for an incredibly interesting 2017 season.
The one thing that becomes clear with the new contract: the Bills officially got their wish in every way possible.
The Details
The Bills signed Taylor to the restructured contract, which automatically voided the five-year option that the two parties originally agreed upon.
It goes from a five-year pact essentially to a two-year deal. The final three years of the deal automatically void, but due to the structure of the contract, the prorated signing bonuses would continue out and if the two parties split ahead of the 2019 season, Taylor would keep a dead money hit. The signing bonus from the original extension also carries over, which bumps up some of the dead money as well.
The only guaranteed money is his base salary in 2017 ($7.5M), his new signing bonus ($7M), and $1 million of his base salary in the 2018 season.
This is how the contract is structured with cap hits, according to multiple reports:
2017 Cap Hit: $9,713,334 ($7.5M base salary, $2,213,334 prorated signing bonuses from both contracts)
2018 Cap Hit: $18.08 million ($10M base salary, $2.08M prorated signing bonuses from both contracts, $6M roster bonus)
2019 Cap Hit: $5.56 million (dead money from prorated signing bonuses due to final three years being automatically voided)
What the contract means for the 2017 season
It's pretty cut and dry.
Since the deal is fully guaranteed for this season, Tyrod Taylor will be in Buffalo and likely serve as the starting quarterback for the upcoming year. Taylor took a significant pay cut from his original option to stay in Buffalo, with yet another chance to prove his worth to the rest of the NFL.
What the contract means for the 2018 season
That the Bills can walk away before the season, which is something that they wouldn't have been able to do if the original option on Taylor had been picked up. Now, the only amount they'll owe to the cap -- if released ahead of the new league year in 2018 -- is a total of $8.64 million ($1 million guaranteed from base salary, plus the final four years of prorated signing bonuses).
If they had just kept him on his original option and wanted to walk away ahead of 2018, his dead money attached to the cap would have been $17.69 million. With the restructure, the Bills are saving themselves over $9 million if they want to get away from Tyrod Taylor ahead of 2018.
While the $8.64 million is still a substantial cap hit, it remains a much more plausible idea to release Taylor next offseason -- more so than it would have been if they just picked up the option.
What the contract means for all parties moving forward
This is a humongous victory for the Bills.
They got the guy they wanted in 2017, and the flexibility to walk away at the end of the season if they really want to -- which is the scenario they had to be dreaming of.
Now, the Bills have the ability to draft a quarterback in the hopes that the player turns into their next franchise quarterback. And by bringing Taylor back, they don't have to feel any pressure to play that player in the 2017 season -- whether they draft him in the first or second round of the draft.
If the board doesn't fall their way to pick up a quarterback in the 2017 NFL Draft, then the combination of Taylor's contract along with the Bills much bigger cap space in 2018, they could draft one in the following year, keep Taylor on board, and allow the rookie to learn during the 2018 season.
Either way, all signs point to the Bills addressing the quarterback position -- significantly -- at some point in the next two drafts.
They can also do so without any false pretense of Taylor being their long-term starter, which is why it was smart for head coach Sean McDermott to use the term "at this time" in both the team statement and whenever asked by reporters about the decision to have Taylor as their quarterback.
This, in essence, is a bridge deal and the Bills got exactly what they wanted all along:
The best of both worlds.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18905240/tyrod-taylor-restructured-deal-amounts-10m-pay-cut
10:12 AM ET
Mike Rodak
ESPN Staff Writer
Buffalo Bills quarterback Tyrod Taylor will take a $10 million pay cut as part of a restructured contract he signed last week, according to NFLPA documents obtained by ESPN.
Taylor will earn $30.5 million in 2017 and 2018 combined before his contract automatically voids on the fifth day after the Super Bowl in February 2019. Under his previous deal, Taylor would have earned $40.5 million in 2017 and 2018 combined if the Bills exercised an option in his contract that would have kept him under the team's control through 2021.
Quarterback Tyrod Taylor's restructured deal with the Buffalo Bills will pay him $10 million less than his previous deal. Tom Szczerbowski/Getty Images
The Bills renegotiated Taylor's contract to avoid $30.75 million that would have become guaranteed March 11. Taylor will be fully guaranteed only $15.5 million under the terms of his restructured deal.
The pay cut suggests Taylor did not believe he could receive a better deal from another team if he had been released by the Bills. Taylor said last week his agent, Adisa Bakari, spoke informally with "a few teams" at the NFL combine earlier this month and after doing so, they decided to accept the reduced deal from Buffalo.
Had Taylor not accepted the pay cut, the Bills were expected to release him. Buffalo had interest last week in signing veteran Brian Hoyer, sources told ESPN, before Taylor agreed to the restructured deal and Hoyer joined the San Francisco 49ers.
Taylor's 2017 cap number will drop from $15.9 million to $9.7 million under the terms of the restructure. If the Bills choose to keep him for the 2018 season, his cap number will be $18.1 million; it would have been $16.8 million under his previous deal.
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I find it amazing how you say Poyer isn't a good addition because he's been a career back up but Davis is our bestConsidering Shaq is a raw rookie with only 7-8 NFL games under his belt, and Hughes can be weak vs the run, this is a terrific FA addition, IMO maybe the best FA signing of this off season, plus his versatility is a plus
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addition who is also a career back up. Poyer has won a starting position at least and versatile just like Davis. Davis has been a healthy scratch on game days 50% of his career.
Wacky there Wilocam....
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I think they will draft a safety and a CB. Still think they sign a vet CB when the dust settles. Lots still out there.
Agree with this. Secondary draft is very deep this year.
I am interested to see if anything happens with Claiborne...
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Is he better then Duke Williams?
I think Leonard Smith is currently better than Duke Williams.
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Imagine what Bills mafia will be like if this does happen....
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Hmmmm...maybe I was right.@buffrumblings
Jordan Poyers contract numbers seem to indicate hell be starting at safety come September
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Some guy called EJ Manuel is available, any thoughts?
I heard he can throw it accurately to a hospitality tent.
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He will be a 3rd stringer somewhere. Might be one of those vets inactive almost every week.
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at 275 lbs?
I was being facetious. Versatility seems to be the word in Buffalo.
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$3.25 million isn't starter money...
You're probably right...initially it looked like low level starter money. Thought it was just a little bit lower than Graham's.
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Doesn't look like he signed for back up money....
Mike Rodak @mikerodak
Safety Jordan Poyer signed a 4-year deal with the Bills worth $13 million with $6 million guaranteed. He will...
https://mobile.twitter.com/mikerodak/status/841293747220492288
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Keep it up Doug! Should be good rotational depth.
"Davis, 28, is known as a steady run defender capable of setting the edge. He spent the first four years of his career in Jacksonville. The Jaguars signed him out of Bethune-Cookman as an undrafted free agent in 2012.
His most productive season came in 2014 when he posted 19 tackles, 6.5 sacks, a pair of pass breakups and two forced fumbles for the Jaguars."
Not bad. Wonder if we'll have a rotation like Schwartz had with our front 4.
Eddy Lacy at 267 lbs
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