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It's clear Belicheck doesn't know defense.
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Obviously Bill Belicheck believes Gilmore is a good corner.
But many on a Bills message board...
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This deal confirms that this team views Tyrod as nothing than a stop gap.
That's what I'm thinking. I believe he's now the lowest paid veteran starting QB? Or at least up there....
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Additional reasons for staying. People seem to overlook how much success the offense had while he was here. The offense was breaking Bills records for scoring and going into week 17 was like 6th in the NFL. Mostly without Sammy playing. TT knows hes got a good thing here on the offensive side. Hes still getting a crapload of guaranteed money.
His guaranteed money is very low for a veteran starter.
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When the guarantee is up, he will have had 4 years to prove he is the guy. That's more than we've given anyone in a while. I really think this is his "prove it" year.
If he doesn't end the conversation about him as our long term starter, then he's our bridge next year for the new guy.
I'm overall happy with how this worked out
It's a great contract for the Bills. Taylor can make more money if he produces...
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1. Because maybe he and his agent realized it would pretty much be between the bears and the browns. And neither of those opportunities were attractive to him compared to buffalo.
2. The total amount of guaranteed money hes missing out on over the life of the contract isnt that substantial when you have to consider moving ur family again and going to unknowns with new teams one of which is a massive dumpster fire in the Browns.
3. Ive never met the guy or know him in any way. But from everything ive read it seems like he kinda goes to the beat of his own drummer.
Just throwing some things out there to counter.
But he's not guaranteed to get that money over the life of the contract. He signed another contract in which the Bills can walk away from him again in two years. Why would he want to put himself in that situation again? Right now, his guaranteed money is essentially cut in half.
So you're saying Buffalo at a reduced rate was more attractive than Browns, Bears, I've also heard 49ers? We're the Bears not willing to give Taylor the same $14.5 they are willing to for Glennon?
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Im sorry. I dont buy the sending out feelers bit when:
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Mike Glennon's impending contract with the Bears is expected to be for three years at an average of $14.5 million per season.
Why else would Taylor agree to the restructure where his guaranteed money and salary are reduced?
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Turned it off when they started bashing Whaley. Again.
None of the WGR mouths seem to be able to listen. Bills went to "One Voice" speaking for the organization a month and a half ago. Simple concept, Good idea. New communications department sticking to it.
Naturally that means bash Whaley because he did not speak about this.
Idiots.
When did they bash Whaley? I've been listening all morning. They were positive about this restructure.
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Complete guessing, speculation, and middle school gossip.
The idea that McDermott somehow strong-armed Whaley into restructuring and keeping Taylor, even though Whaley was completely against it, is absolutely ludicrous at every level.
Yep
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Taylor is now one of the lowest paid veteran starters.
The first contract wasn't a bad one because there was language in there that allowed them to restructure to this new one.
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I think you're right.I like what they did but it still seems like Taylor is anything but in their long term plans. I'm good with that but I'm also good with him being here while they try to find the long term answer.
I think they take a QB high this year, have him sit/develop for two years and then let him take the reigns.
I'm thinking a 2nd round guy...I heard Davis Webb is climbing the boards. I think, correct me if I'm wrong, but he was originally a projected 3-4 round pick. Now he might a 2nd rounder.
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Both Sal and White are discussing it. Basically why Tyrod would agree to take a reduced salary to stay with Buffalo.
Both of them believe that Tyrods agent sent out feelers and found out his value wasn't as high on the open market that they originally thought. Sal said he was stunned at first when he heard about the contract details....why would Tyrods agent agree to this? That's where the theory came from.
Sal said he spoke with people he knows inside the organization. They told him that the Bills did want Taylor back but were holding firm on the restructured contract. They were okay with walking away from him and basically called his bluff.
They also think Tyrod is betting on himself. He might have gotten a little more on the open market but believes Buffalo is the best place for him to succeed. He can still earn his $30 million in Buffalo but that's not guaranteed anymore...the new deal cuts that essentially in half. If he produces, he gets paid.
Right now it looks like at least a 2 year bridge deal. After 1, it's an $8 million dead cap hit. However Taylor can perform and this can become a long term deal.
They think both sides win.
Bills win because they lower the guaranteed money, cap hit and dead money after two years.
Tyrod wins because he likes it here, he has a chance to make more money in Buffalo if he can perform and turn this contract into a long term deal. Basically just like the last contract....it's a 2 year audition for Taylor.
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After the 2019 season, it becomes year to year?
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Well Beasley is 23 years old and Wake is about 34....so yeah.
I really am scratching my head that you think it's a better idea to take a player at the level of Beasley off the field and would make him a passing down rush specialist. What if the Colts did that with both Freeney and Mathis?
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Well I'm not huge on Tyrod but I'll slowly start building confidence in him over the next several months. I have no other choice.
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I think AJ Klein will be a Bill soon.
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@rapsheet
The #Lions and OT Ricky Wagner have agreed in principle on a contract, source said. It will eclipse $9M per year, setting a new market.
Wow! $9 million?!
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Schefter confirmed.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Ravens free-agent OT Ricky Wagner expects to become a Detroit Lion assuming no snags in final negotiations Thursday, sources tell ESPN.
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he is an edge passer. That's it. He isn't a 3 down de.
Interesting that the last time he played 4-3 end, which is what he will play with McDermott, he graded out well vs the run.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/bills-run-defense-sets-the-tone/
Would you say players like Vic Beasley and Cameron Wake aren't 3 down DE because they aren't great vs the run?
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If we sign him and also one more starter at WR or the secondary...I will say we had a great start to the McDermott era.
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good thing we play passing teams that never run next year...
So you thought Hughes wasn't our edge pass rusher? That's his strength and why he got his extension...to rush the passer.
Are you also insinuating that Hughes, an OLB in Ryan's defense was a major blame on the porous run defense?
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in my eyes and what he brings to the MCD defense. Yes
I completely disagree.
He was #9 last year in QB pressures.
https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/defensive-hurries/2016/
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I think he has fallen off in talent
At 28?
WGR discussion on Taylor's contract
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I'm not big on Taylor but I really do like this contract.
Just because Houston made an egregious error doesn't mean all GM's don't know what they're doing. It's easy to point out mistakes and no one is perfect in this business.