Billzgobowlin
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The best I can tell is they are grooming Peterman or they honestly believe Taylor gives them the best chance to win. One thing we don't know is what the coaches know, that being how ready is Peterman to take the pressure of starting.
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1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said:
Yeah I am going into this weird deja vu from last night....
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Wish we had a RB like Jonathan Williams that has great potential
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4 hours ago, billsfan11 said:
No he won a Superbowl with a very opportunistic defence. Including 5 turnovers in the NFC championship game, and a pick 6 to seal the Superbowl against Peyton Manning
Their defence was by far the best at creating turnovers. 5 turnovers in the NFC championship game.
They gave up yards and points but they consistently forced turnovers the whole year and wouldn't have went to The Superbowl if they didn't create 5 turnovers...
Ok so I'll play. Saints were 20th in team defense that year we are 15th so far. Saints were 3rd in turnovers, Bills are first.
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50 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:
Yet in McDermott's Carolina defense, Kawonn Short was drafted and had double digit sacks...I completely disagree with the notion that DTs don't need to create pressure in this scheme or in most schemes for that matter. The DEs have been by themselves in trying to get to the QB if you watch closely. Hughes has had pressures, just hasn't gotten there. The QBs that we've played against have been way too comfortable in the pocket. The DTs need to provide interior rush to push the QB out of the pocket into the arms of the DEs but they haven't provided even the slightest bit of push all season really. We have very few sacks as a team. We also do not have any first rounders at the DT position right now. Washington was a third and isn't playing well. Both Shaq and Hughes were former 1st rounders and Shaq is still developing. One fat run stuffer and a DT that can get penetration is what McDerm had in Carolina in Lotulelei and Short. They even drafted another first DT in Vernon Butler...3 first round DTs. I fully expect that trend to continue now that he is here.
Is this McDerm's defense or Fraziers, it makes a big defense.
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3 hours ago, billsfan11 said:
Probably never. What does that have to do with anything?
My point was even hall of fame QBS can't get into the playoffs with bad defences,
Drew Brees has a defence this year and all of a sudden they already have the same amount of wins as last year
Their defense the Super Bowl year was bad. I don't disagree defense needs to be better but let's not pretend we have a QB that will do anything short of us having the 2000 Ravens defense.
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9 hours ago, Buffalo30 said:
Everyone should be able to create pressure along the dline not just the DEs...They have potential talent there still, DT doesn't
I am not quite sure the difference between DT and DE as far as talent.... There are vets, undrafteds and first rounders on both positions. Neither has been particularly strong but the difference is the DTs are not counted on for putting pressure on the QB in this defense.
19 minutes ago, NewEra said:Yes, they’re different. They’re being dominated at the line of scrimmage. Teams have figured out how to attack them and we are now getting destroyed. Maybe it’s the scheme? Maybe, but it’s our scheme and if the guys we have can’t get the job done in the scheme we’re going to run, they need to be replaced. I’m not saying all of them, but we need At least 2 different bodies in there.
I agree, they aren’t getting any support from the LBs..... 2 of which need to be replaced as well.
I am curious if McDerm will get tired of watching Frazier's scheme, he has to take some of the blame. I can understand a couple of players underperforming but as much as they were all gelling as a defense at the beginning of the season they have been not working together at all the past two games, wonder if it has to do with the voice in the defensive room or just they are not good.
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11 hours ago, billsfan11 said:
What are you talking about?..
When were the Saints outscored 47-10 like the Bills were Sunday?
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36 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:
Check out the Saints record the past 3 years. That's the result when your defence is bad. Even with a hall of fame quarterback
Which game were they outscored 47-10?
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23 minutes ago, NewEra said:
You’re ok with these 4 DTs going forward into next season?
I was when they were 5-2, are these guys different. You can say we lost Dareus but he missed a few games and was rotational for the rest of them. The DTs are tired and need help. The embarrassment was the LBs. Not one shot the gaps and everyone was tackling behind them. Could the DTs done more sure but they weren't the big issue
28 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:No I had this pegged as need as soon as McDermott walked in the building. Carolina drafted Lotulelei, Short and last year Butler in the first round, all of them are DTs that were for McDermott's system. The players we have are either aging or don't really fit the scheme well. And forget run defense for a second, what about the lack of pass rush from the interior of that line this year? There's a lot of factors that come into play and the majority point to a new set of DTs. That's what this regime has a history of.
This defense wasn't about interior pressure, remember this is Frazier's defense not McDerm's. Why exactly are the DEs not held accountable for pass rush?
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I'm not sure I agree with the assertion that Peterman wouldn't have done anything more than Taylor in the first 58 minutes. Taylor has a skillset that hasn't been utilized much this year. Peterman we will find out is a better passing QB but if Taylor is allowed or willing to create with his legs then he becomes the superior one, too bad that hasn't happened with the game in doubt the last two weeks.
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Just now, NewEra said:
Ok, so are you saying that the run defense is fine? No. It’s awful. Not sure what we’re discussing here
No never said anything about the run defense rather the DTs will be fine, not right after the last two games but name a player that shined the last two weeks. I don't think these two games you can learn about any player right now.
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1 hour ago, billsfan11 said:
Ok so one time, one of the greatest QBs of all time would win once? Lol
They have all done it multiple times. Brees and Rodgers have played on teams with horrible defenses
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
One game? Did you happen to watch the jets game?
And we got destroyed up the middle. Don’t think I can remember a team getting smashed up the middle like that in my life
Ok you win two games. As bad as they have been they were that good earlier this year against the run against good running teams.
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This still doesn't mean he is not playing
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5 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:
I don't think Tyrod played bad at all against the Jets.
He was awful on Sunday though.
Did you see the defence the past 2 weeks? What QB would win even one of those games? I believe in total the past 2 games they were outrushed 500 to about 150.... Peterman aint saving that
Saints didn't punt once. Tell me, has there ever been a team that has won a game where the opposing team hasn't punted?
Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Phillip Rivers, Drew Brees. They have all done it at one time. Also better QBs don't go three and out as much as we have the past two weeks
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I was really impressed (garbage time or not) how he had a real good feel for routes. He went through multiple reads and only had one play to a RB/FB.
11 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:Taylor was awesome in garbage time a mere ten days before. Never forget that in a situation like that - up 47-3 - the primary goal of every defender is avoiding injury.
Not yesterday though. I think Tyrod actually got worse the later it got, yet Peterman did well because he actually threw the ball
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1 hour ago, Buffalo30 said:
Don't look at one individual game...The DTs aren't talented and neither are the linebackers besides imo Milano, who needs more playing time. Some of them don't fit the scheme and some aren't good enough. If they aren't removed this year they will be next year. However, with so many draft picks and salary cap, I think they will overhaul both groups. Most of our starters are free agents anyway
I do agree though, a MLB should be one of the higher priorities
The only reason why we are looking at replacing all our DTs though is because of one game. The 5-2 start had the Bills being stout in the middle.
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10 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:
Harrison Phillips DT Stanford. 6'3" 295. He's a lot like kyle williams. Is a senior and has had two productive years including this season's 65 tackle, 10.5 TFL, 5 sack performance that isn't over yet. He Has 12 sacks in two years. Really like the kid. Smart, upstanding character and seems to fit the scheme well. Just looks like a McDermott pick.
Tegray Scales LB Indiana 6'0" 230 lbs. He is the perfect player for McDermott's scheme. He has had 4 years of productive play in Indiana. Isn't a headcase and can lead a defense. his most productive year saw 125 tackles, 24 TFL, 7 sacks and an INT. He's showed he is fast and can cover down the field with his 7 career interceptions. He is a triple threat linebacker who can stuff the run, cover and get after the QB. Just like Luke Keuchly does in Carolina. Seems like a match to me. He's just a little undersized.
I like many others but these popped out to me as really realistic options. Later in the draft Josey Jewell and the Washington linebackers are nice fits as well. Lowell Lotulelei later in the draft for DT. Defensive end is tough. I really only like the top few guys. Arden Key is one of my favorite prospects. He hasn't had a tremendous year trying to come back from injury but he is a monster when healthy. He plays with such passion it amps everyone else up. He and Bradley Chubb have caught my eye. I think they both have the potential to land high in the top ten so that puts us out of reach for now at least. Some of the others are very good but just not a complete package to me. There will be plenty of options though if they decide to go that route. I personally think DT and LB are bigger needs.
However, it will be interesting to see if they draft a QB. If that happens in the first round, you can expect a few lineman with some of the high picks in the draft. So maybe, the front 7 won't be addressed a whole lot through the draft this year. Who knows what direction they take. They luckily have enough picks to give help to both sides a little.
We do not have DTs. They will need two new ones. Washington is not good in the run defense and hasn't shown he can get to the QB. I'm all for developing young players but if they don't fit the scheme...there's no point. He had trouble with off the field stuff at the beginning of the year as well. Kyle Williams is old and has looked it. His contact is up, he may retire or stay on for nothing in a diminished role. The rest are backups at best...the DTs and linebackers are needs. Carolina draft a ton of DTs and LBs in McDermott/Beane's time there. He is addressing the DT, I guarantee it.
41-19 is a very telling stat. That is the Saints time of possession vs the Bills of which I think the Bills had most of the last 10 minutes. You don't win games by not controlling the ball. Is it the DTs fault, about as much as it is the LBs, Oline, McCoy, Taylor and whoever else is on the team. DT was not the glaring weakness on defense, LBs were but nothing looked right that game. Dareus would not have helped in this game and you can't rely on one position to fix it but get me a MLB before all.
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There certainly isn't enough to fire these two at all. Beane hasn't even been here for a draft. It is a process that needs to be finished, let's just hope it's another show me baby thing with this process.
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This is not the first team to say this. If Tyrod wants to win next week he better learn how to throw and throw a lot. We go to the playoffs if he opens up a little, we are out if he doesn't
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I think our D line will be ok but I would like to see a LB and CB. They are tired no doubt but I see them getting better. Dareus was a big loss talent wise but They have good DTs.
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7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
They dont. It is a job for them. Nothing more. The minority of NFL players love football.
47-10 loss or a 23-12 win their paycheck still comes
You think Kyle doesn't care? Watch Tyrod's presser, you think he doesn't care? If he doesn't he is a great actor.
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9 hours ago, Punt75 said:
If our Offensive Line is that bad then we need a QB who has a quick release. Tyrod doesn't have that and constantly drifts too deep in the pocket. He throws a 15 yard completion but the catch is made at the line of scrimmage!! Peterman gets the ball out quickly. I think the O-Line and receivers appreciate that. Maybe he isn't the QB of the future but the team overall needs a different offensive look. IF Peterman falters vs. the Chargers bring Tyrod in and let him be a hero to win the game!
The O line flat out needs to get better but we have to make the other teams respect the pass in order to be able to run and that is not happening. Dennison isn't fully the issue but are game plan on offense needs to be reverse. When we pass first in games we tend to do better on offense.
Saints' Cam Jordan: "We kept Taylor in the pocket and made him a quarterback"
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That's a good argument but we all know ebbs and flows of the season dictate. The only reason they went anywhere that season was Brees and what you are witnessing is a defense that can't make plays because they are constantly on the field. The game really got out of hand because the offense wasn't able to sustain and the defense got tired. If the Bills were down 21-14 would the defense be so tired. Tyrod other than the first drive looked horrid and it snowballed from there.