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5 hours ago, Success said:
Can anyone remember another QB getting called a "choker" for choosing the wrong open receiver at the end of a game?
It's usually reserved for throwing a pick or overthrowing someone who is open. I can't recall a time when a QB was so criticized for having 2 open guys, and choosing the 1 that would have been a TD.
I don't speak for the folks saying that, but do you think it might have something more to do with drilling the ball in the dirt rather than picking the wrong WR?
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On 1/25/2024 at 5:20 PM, HappyDays said:
Allen had 4 game winning drives this year (should have been more but whatever). He has 19 in his career.
Mahomes had 2 game winning drives this year. He has 16 in his career.
Can't wait to see how you try and talk yourself out of this one.
I'm not sure what you think I need to "talk myself out of". My comment wasn't a dunk on Josh Allen, but rather saying that if you give Patrick Mahomes the ball there
with 1:45 left in the game, he's all but guaranteed to win the game. Since you asked for it to be explained to you though, I'll help you out.
First of all, Mahomes has 21 GWD (including 5 postseason)to Allen's 19 GWD(including 0 postseason). Second of all, counting total GWD or 4QC is completely meaningless and is what we call a "vanity metric". In order for it to be valuable, you need to count the percentage of successes vs total opportunities. When you do that, Mahomes is .543 through his first 100 games (only measure of opportunities I could find) which placed him 2nd all time to Tom Brady's insane .570.
Let me know if you need anything else cleared up.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=MahoPa00
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=AlleJo02
https://www.365scores.com/news/patrick-mahomes-through-100-starts-the-best-quarterback-ever-
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1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:
Allen is elite and to suggest otherwise indicates an extreme ignorance of football.
Also when playing one of the best defenses in the NFL and needing to score a TD to win the game you take it any time you can with under 2 minutes to play. The idea that it's easy to both score the TD and use up the last bit of clock is wrong. Don't forget that the Bills had already executed 15 plays and used up over 6 minutes on that drive.
The fact is that the run play on 1st down forced Allen to go for the TD on 2nd down when it it didn't gain anything. The idea that a throw to Diggs picks up the first down is not supported by the video evidence. We likely would have been left with a 3rd and 4 or 5 which while easier to pick up in no way is a gimme.
Then throw to Kincaid who was also open for the 1st. Allen is a great player. If you wan to call him elite within the current players of the NFL, I can be on board with that. Mahomes is on a different level with guys like Brady and Manning though. Josh is still far away from that.
2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:Ideally you hope more time may come off the clock in the process but when there's a TD open you take it, I mean it gives you a 4 point lead under 2 minutes in the 4th against a tough defense, assuming you'll just get it in is just stupid.
if you don't, you take it to overtime.
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2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
How do you know we would have allowed a touchdown?Because I've watched Patrick Mahomes for 6 years and that's what he does. I also watched what he did to our defense. It gave you a slim chance for a win - much better than kicking a tying field goal there with the same time left, which IMO was a guaranteed loss.
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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:
He did make the right call, he makes the other call there if he even could have and if any of a dozen other scenarios play out where we don't win and he's getting killed for not taking that throw. This is nothing but wishful thinking.
Only losers think and play like that. Put KC in our shoes and they run the clock down to nothing and win as football 101 strategy dictates you should. It's not like Josh doesn't have a career's worth of these mental mistakes already to look back on.
I know it would have been nice to say we had the lead and blame the defense when they couldn't hold. But we all should know based on how they played that they wouldn't hold. KC had one punt all game. The offense was our strength, like it or not. That's what you bet on.3 minutes ago, Ramza86 said:100% it was the right call. It was open and the confidence of the throw was there.
He just got hit. What else can you do.watch the play again. He didn't get hit until after the ball was gone.
1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:If Bass makes that FG we lose but given that KC did falter a couple of times in the red zone I would have liked our chances with a 4 point lead and less then 2 minutes left.
The real problem is that Allen, while trailing by 3 late in a playoff game, had to not only worry about scoring the winning TD against one of the best D's in football but also was expected to manage the clock and run it down to almost nothing. All because the Bills D, which has received the lions share of resources over the last 5 years, couldn't be expected to make the stop. This is the root of the problem, not any perceived failings of Allen here.
That's an extremely common ask that any championship coach would ask of his QB. This isn't the 80s or even the 90s anymore. If you want to be called elite, you have to be able to score at will in the redzone.
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lol, no it wasn't. Josh scores a TD there and we lose. Mahomes beat us with 13 seconds and a far stronger defense. He would have had a 1:45 and a pile of timeouts. There would just be a different person to blame. The right play there was to wind the clock down as far as possible and get the TD with under 30 seconds or tie it with a FG as time expires
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6 hours ago, Lost said:
While I don't disagree that Mahomes mentally is more steadfast than Allen. We all know winning breeds confidence and confidence elevates standard of play. What if it was Allen that was nurtured into a winning organization to begin and went to AFCCG his first season as starter? If Mahomes started out on a middling team with all new coaching staff and had a bumpy start the first year or two, who knows if his confidence level would have ever elevated to where it is now.
I don't think it's a confidence problem. Allen has tons of confidence. What he lacks is judgement, real-time processing speed, and perhaps even a football IQ.
I often feel like Allen is the most athletic guy on the field. I almost never once think he's the smartest - even if maybe he is. Mahomes on the other hand seem to play the game like a modern Manning or Brady. He seems to know exactly what's going on all the time, even if he doesn't necessarily. Maybe it's just poise. Allen can get ice in his veins as he stands in the pocket during a two minute drill and shreds a defense, but he doesn't have that calm about him that I see in the best of the best and I attribute that to being able to see everything and know exactly what's going to happen - as opposed to just confidence. -
6 hours ago, Mikie2times said:
I never thought he was the problem. He is the only reason we are where we are.
Andy Reid went 20 years without winning a Super Bowl. His playoff record was was 11-13. KC drafted Mahomes, since that time he has two Super Bowl wins and is 13-3 in the playoffs.
You want me to believe your anecdotal based on nothing story about how the above happened? I bet you still want Sean as HC.
"Anecdotal based on nothing"?
Son, I put out cold hard stats out there that you're blindly choosing to ignore. Andy Reid has one of, if not the most the most impressive coaching resumes in history. Are you Alex Smith? -
3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
My position is probably a bit confusing here. I believe Reid is in a similar spot as Belichick with Brady. Good coach? Sure. But he's made out to be the massive game changer. I don't find it coincidental he only got over the hump with Mahomes. I feel Sean is actually a bad coach. Perhaps he is good at some things like culture building but he's bad at so many others.
As far as rosters go with these elite QB's, I think as long as the roster is above X history has said that is enough. That both teams are likely good enough at that level. If not, fairly close. At least close enough that I can't or perhaps don't want to debate it. Because then it gets into a individual player conversation and I ask myself did I ever do this with Kelly and Marino or Marino and Elway, etc, etc. The answer being no.
So in my point was, if it's not Allen, which at one point I sort of felt, but no longer do, it's Sean. Could some roster variance be it. Sure, but it gets complicated going down that path.
Stop it.
Andy Reid dragged Donovan McNabb to 5 straight Conference Championships and a Super Bowl. He turned an Alex Smith led Chiefs team into a powerhouse and perennial playoff team.
If Andy Reid coaches long enough, which he probably won't, Mahomes could give him a legitimate claim to the greatest coach of all time. -
6 hours ago, Lifefan1 said:
After a few days here, I got to thinking. What would happen if the coaches stayed where they are, but Allen and Mahomes switched teams? Or the opposite, the rosters stayed the same, but Reid and McDermott switched places? Which team would be better off? I guess the real question here is: Is what Reid does with the KC offense (creating decisions for the defense that gets players like Kelsey open in tough situations, or getting big runs when needed...) something that is tailored just to Mahomes and his skill set? Or would Allen be just as successful in that offense? Would Mahomes be just as dynamic in Brady's offense here? I guess my real frustration comes from watching teams like the Chiefs get players open in space, when we appear to have so much trouble getting that open space? Is it scheme (from the coaches calling plays), or is it talent (running the plays called)?
Allen would have won Super Bowls and probably an MVP, but he wouldn't have come close to what Mahomes is done.
Physically, they're pretty much equal. Mentally, Mahomes has a significant edge.
Mahomes and the Bills would have beaten Allen and the Chiefs last week, and he definitely beats the Bengals last year.-
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Insane decision for him. His ego overran his common sense. He could have taken a ***** on the Dean's car at Michigan and they would have built him a statue all while cutting him a $125M check. Instead, he take a super high turnover job where his image as infallible will be questioned week to week by national reporters.
That said, it's an incredibly strong roster, so maybe he skates to a Super Bowl and retires as the greatest football coach ever.-
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Has to be a draft pick.
Douglas is in his prime as a near-elite CB.
White is likely done.
Jackson is a free agent.
Elam doesn't have the skills.
Benford is a great corner - no reason for him to change positions.
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2 minutes ago, dpberr said:
The answer is the draft or UFL. I'd spend zero FA dollars at this position.
WR2 is a young man's game and the fundamental talent you're looking for is route running. You can find more Khalil Shakirs. You can hone that talent with professional instruction.
That's a great strategy as long as your goal is to have a Super Bowl-ready roster 2-4 years from now while that talent you cheaped out on develops or doesn't.
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Just now, Aussie Joe said:
So not really saving $10+ million ,,,, just pushing that out 12 months on the credit card ….In the NFL, that's the same thing. The cap is an illusion.
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1 minute ago, Maine-iac said:
What would you venture to guess on Brown's price tag? Sportstrac thinks 15mil which seems pretty high.
I don't think the market will be big for him at all based on two down years. I would think you could get him on a short term prove it deal. He made $3m this year and underperformed a lot of other WRs making similar money. Chark had a much better year at $5M, so I'd say $5-6M 1-2 years.
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Hollywood brown would give us a burner we lack and is coming off a down two years in AZ
Calvin Ridley - might be too expensiveRasheed Shaheed broke out this year in a poor saints offense - could be a risk
DJ Chark - Perfect candidate for a placeholder if we draft a player and want them to earn the role over the course of the year in typical McD fashion. -
16 hours ago, M. Wrotto said:
I am pretty sure this was discussed quite a while ago, but I can’t find anything on it. With Hyde and possibly Poyer gone, what’s the possibility of transitioning Elam to Safety? I am in favor of it honestly.
Playing safety would exacerbate just about every weakness Elam has besides ballhawking. He's a man press corner who can't tackle.
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I think he gets one by the end if one of three things happen:
1. He takes a big step up in his mental game and passing technique that turns open players into automatic plays like a Brady or Mahomes (least likely)2. He gets an easy/flukey path to a championship where the top teams like KC/SF whoever else is strong in a given year get upset before they get to us or suffer QB injuries. (most likely)
3. We build a monster team around him that asks him to only make a couple big plays instead of all the plays - similar to what Denver did with Both Elway and Manning (very possible, but not any time soon).
He's gotta stay healthy, and if he wants the best possible shot, he needs to play smarter than he does. I don't see the latter as being likely at all as he's a gunslinger at his core. I don't see him becoming a Peyton Manning film-rat or a Tom Brady football lifestyle guy. I think he's gonna try to win on his arms and legs on Sunday and as long as there are other elite teams in the league, it'll be a sad ending for us in the playoffs unless we can get really lucky.
I do think we get lucky at least once though, and if we are able to do something silly like draft multiple all-pros on rookie deals, maybe we get a couple. -
12 hours ago, Beck Water said:
Please define "near the top of the league" - top 10? top 15? 67th? 48th? 72nd?
Which I guess raises the question "what do you mean by everything"?
Top 8-13
Yards, touchdowns, receptions, first downs - everything that matters. -
4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
GM Brandon Beane
Head Coach - Bill Belichick
OC - Eric Bieniemy
DC - Mike Vrabel
UFA - Derrick Henry
Draft - Round 1 & Round 2 WR's
This is remotely realistic....but you never know?
This would give us a truly dynamic offense2 RB Henry, Cook
2 TE Kincaid Knox
4 WR Diggs (?) Round 1, Shakir, Round 2I would love to get Belichick, but it's not happening.
Henry is completely washed. I would have traded a late round pick for him to take Murray's role, but his day as a feared #1 are over.
Go all-in and get Tee Higgins and Josh Jacobs.
Use your draft picks to bolster secondary, LB and WR depth.
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However, what they will do is keep everyone under contract (including McDermott), resign Ty Johnson to an overpaid deal, draft a CB/DE in round one, get the 10th best WR of the draft in round 2-4, and run it back. You'll have Diggs-Shakir-Harty as your top 3 with Shorter and some rookies competing for 4+.
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1 hour ago, eball said:
Get ready for more primetime games next season...
Awesome. nothing beats a great primetime matchup.
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17 hours ago, SCBills said:
-WC Loss to the Houston Texans. We weren't ready. Second half collapse, but Year 2 Josh Allen. Not the end of the world.
-AFC Championship Game vs KC. Defense was handed an early lead and proceeded to lay an egg. But hey, we're making strides and weren't ready for that moment. But we're on the right track.
-AFC Divisional Game vs KC. 13 seconds. Abject failure that falls directly on the coaching. We'll apparently never know where the disconnect was in those final moments, but ok.
-AFC Divisional Game at home vs CIN. No show all around. Damar Hamlin, mental exhaustion... ok. Fine.
-AFC Divisional Game at home vs KC. Defense is an absolute dumpster fire. McDermott leading that Defense. But we have injuries, so... Spags had injuries too, and managed to make life difficult in that second half, but ok...
Playoff wins over Miami with a backup QB, Pittsburgh with a backup QB, Baltimore, New England and Indianapolis.
Every year, aside from 13 seconds, he's had a valid excuse. First two years, building, making strides...
But then 13 seconds happened, and our Defense has been an absolute liability against the Bengals and Chiefs.
He gets next year, I'm sure, but there can't be anymore excuses. Valid or not.. he's used all of them up. We talk about needing luck yet NE ran the AFC for a decade + and now KC is doing the same. It's not luck, as much as we want to pretend it is. And when we watch Allen play Mahomes.. it's not the QB. So what is it? Rhetorical question, because we all know.. and he's out of excuses. Valid or not. You can't have one every year.
I want McDermott gone as much as the next guy, but this take is lame. You have to have an "excuse" why you don't win, or else you would have won. 31 teams have an "excuse" every single year. Some of us call it a "reason", but I'm guessing that distinction doesn't matter much.
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I posted this in another thread, but you guys know he was still near the top of the league in everything this year, despite having a poor year by his standards, right? He could easily have 2-3 more Top 5-7 years in him with the right gameplan
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exactly. This version of the Bills was probably the worst one we've put out there since 2019. There was no chance they were beating the best teams in the league. They just didn't have the horses this year and the offense never looked strong.
Josh made the right call to go for the TD
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Of course, to make this statement, you have to ignore that Allen had a lifetime to see Jones coming as he stood there motionless in the pocket instead of taking a half step forward or to the right. If you want to claim that he only missed because he was interfered with, then he should have done the bare minimum to not be interfered with. We all know he's capable of it. We shouldn't accept it as a legitimate excuse.