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Logic

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  1. I can understand and agree with the first sentence. I do not necessarily agree with the second sentence. Unlikely? Yes. Completely out of the realm of possibility? No.
  2. Color me surprised and at least a little bit disappointed that there was no discussion of the Bills trading up to 5, 6, or 7 for one of those guys. Not sure if that would've come in the form of a poll, a private message inquiry to those picks' owners, or what, but...it seems at least a reasonable enough possibility in real life to discuss the possibility within the context of this mock, no? Bummer.
  3. If the Cardinals like all three wide receivers, or even prefer Nabers to MHJ (as some teams in the NFL apparently do), or have those Odunze even with those guys on their board...then I could see them doing this. It's not like they WOULDN'T be walking away with an alpha WR. They would.
  4. I happen to think Nabers is the superior prospect, and I happen to believe that multiple NFL teams feel that way, too. It's been reported that teams across the league all rank the top three very differently, and MHJ is NOT the consensus WR1 that fans and draftniks think he is. I think there's a realistic shot that Nabers comes off the board first. I also think that, of the top three, Nabers is the guy the Bills like best. He ticks all the boxes Brandon Beane has recently mentioned as far as what he looks for in a wide receiver. I don't know how feasible it is in real life, but Nabers to the Bills is the absolute best match and the best case scenario for their WR corps, IMO.
  5. I wonder what it would cost the imaginary Buffalo Bills to move up to this spot...
  6. If I was running the Vikings, I'd have already sent you my two 1sts for this pick
  7. Just curious if you made this pick because it's what YOU would do, or because it's what you think the Bears will do. I'm always fuzzy as to which of those we're supposed to be doing in these things, but...just wondering what lead to this pick.
  8. I thought it was 42069
  9. Yes sir. I'd be happy to. Thanks!
  10. I'm with you 100% If there's one bugaboo that I can't overlook in a wide receiver draft prospect, it's separation. The major problem with the Bills' passing offense was that guys weren't getting open. They weren't gaining separation. Adding Keon Coleman does not seem like it would fix what ails us. Give me someone a bit smaller and slighter, but who can gain cleaner and more consistent separation, please and thank you.
  11. Thanks for that post. Outstanding. I agree. If the Bills don't trade up for one of the big three, Franklin is the guy I'd like to see drafted by the Bills.
  12. Good one. I'm highly dubious as to his ability to be a traditional NFL receiver. But as a move player, big slot, TE/WR hybrid that's used situationally and in the red zone? I think he could have some real value. Put him up against a 5'9" slot corner and throw it up high to him. Let the big man work.
  13. A-E-DUB! A-E-DUB! A-E-DUB!
  14. Just as the title says. In your opinion, what player is the draft community too low on, that you think will (or at least should) be drafted higher than where the analysts and the draftniks have him going currently? I'll start: Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon. I get it, it's a great WR class. Still, for all you hear about the big three, Brian Thomas, AD Mitchell, Xavier Worthy, Keon Coleman...Troy Franklin tends to be an afterthought. Yes, he's skinny. He's also fast, silky smooth, has legitimate ability to win deep, and posted quality production at Oregon the past two years, including 1383 yards and 14 touchdowns in 2023. To me, he's akin to a Devonta Smith, Chris Olave type, if perhaps a step down (though not a big one) in overall talent from those two. I think everyone is too low on Troy Franklin. I'm not sure that, after the big three receivers, he's not the next best guy. I like him a lot. So who's yours? Which player is the draft community too low on?
  15. Eagles Titans Raiders And I'm also more than happy to give up my spot so someone new can do it since I participated in the last one. Thanks Virgil.
  16. I keep coming back to two of Brandon Beane's comments. The first was "how many different things can you do? Inside? Outside? How versatile are you?". The second was his repeated mentioning of yards-after-catch. They both keep bringing me back to Malik Nabers, Xavier Legette, and Malachi Corley. All three have serious yards-after-catch ability, all three have some degree of inside-outside versatility (Nabers especially). I think Beane's (and maybe Brady's) ideal vision for a receiving corps is a bunch of guys who can more or less play any of the positions. Curtis Samuel and Khalil Shakir both have inside-outside versatility. Diggs had it. I think they want it in the guy(s) they draft. I think they want to be able to put Samuel, Shakir, and the draftee(s) out on the field and be able to put any of them in any of the WR spots, without telegraphing to the defense from snap to snap who will be lined up where. It's probably a dumb and overly optimistic thing to think, but assuming he's not the first WR off the board, I have this weird feeling that the Bills really love Malik Nabers and want to try to find a way to make him a Buffalo Bill. He just ticks all of Brandon Beane's boxes. Explosive athlete, elite production, outstanding after the catch, positional versatility. All of it. He also instantly elevates gives the Bills a viable WR1 and elevates the entire receiving corps in a way that whoever they pick at 28 likely doesn't. Here's hoping I'm right and that Beane is feeling saucy come draft night.
  17. Saw this chart on The Ringer today (part of a fun but silly article which nevertheless had some nice info hidden amongst the jokes). Not a great look for Brian Thomas Jr and Adonai Mitchell, with the takeaway being that while they have everything you want from a physical standpoint and have both shown the POTENTIAL to be good, their college production (not just raw numbers, but yards per route run relative to their target rate) is lacking. https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/4/9/24124742/best-wide-receivers-2024-nfl-draft-class-marvin-harrison-jr-malik-nabers-rome-odunze
  18. Regarding Elam and Burks: If we're taking a swing at a third year breakout player, I'd rather have a talented man cover corner be the guy that breaks out while on my roster than a receiver. I think the latter are easier to find than the former. That said, the new Titans regime has no ties to Treylon Burks, so if they're willing to flip him to us for a late round pick (think 5th or later) then I'd be on board. I like low risk, high reward swings on former first and second round picks. Burks is a guy I'd be willing to gamble on, provided the compensation needed to acquire him is relatively meager. He's dealt with injuries, sure, but the Titans passing game has also just generally been a wasteland for lots of guys the past few years. Who's been slinging the rock? The ghost of Ryan Tannehill, Malik Willis, rookie Will Levis...yuck! So it's a no for me on an Elam swap, but a yes to Burks if he can be had for cheap.
  19. Haha. Point taken, but...Don't shoot the messenger. I'm not the one who came up with this stuff.
  20. "Half as much" is not accurate, but it is true that in the context of trading draft picks, they lose one round of value for each year into the future that they are. So a 2025 2nd is equivalent in value to a 2024 3rd, and a 2026 2nd is equivalent in value to a 2024 4th. Now, this formula only speaks to the value of picks in relation to their use in trades. If you look at any draft trade chart, be it Jimmy Johnson's or Rich Hill's, you'll see that this is true. That said, even if we consider the pick to be of 3rd round value, it STILL seems like a good return for a 30 year old WR on what has become a one-year deal. One need look no further than the compensation given up for Amari Cooper, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, etc -- not to mention the comparative compensation given up for guys at other positions like Sneed and Burns -- to see that Beane did quite well. All of that said, there's a pretty good chance the pick winds up being a high one next year. Assuming the Vikings have a losing record -- not a crazy assumption if they start a rookie or Sam Darnold -- we could be looking at something like the 38th to 45th pick in the draft!
  21. Figured today would be the perfect day to discuss this masterpiece. Currently listening in headphones to Dark Side of the Moon at work in honor of eclipse day. Have always loved this album. From the first time I ever heard it as a stoned teenager, through dozens of listens (always in full sequential order), to the present day. It's perfect. Whether I lay back and close my eyes and listen in headphones, or crank it loud on the sound system, or sync it up with the Wizard of Oz. It's just always the masterpiece I remember it as. The sonic landscape it creates blows me away every time. Any other fans? Detractors? People who think it's a lot of hype about nothing? (If that's you, you're wrong, by the way). If I inspire one person to spin this album today, I've done my job. Happy listening.
  22. Bryan DeArdo is normally foolproof, too.
  23. I agree. I thought the finale was just exactly perfect. Then again, I loved the Seinfeld finale, and have agreed with Larry all these years that there's nothing to defend or apologize for. Curb was an amazing series, and in its peak moments, it equaled and occasionally surpassed Seinfeld. Crazy to think that it's been on (and sometimes off) for 24 years now! So long, Larry. No lessons learned.
  24. With the 75th pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Michael Hall Jr, DT, Ohio State Hall's size causes him to drop to the third round, but his active hands, short area quickness, and ability to win one-on-ones have us convinced he can be a valuable rotational piece on our defensive line. Hall was dominant at times at the Senior Bowl, and we're willing to bet that with a bit of time in an NFL weight room, Hall can make up for any size deficiencies he may have. We want to get stronger in the trenches, and Hall helps us do that. @Big Blitz and the Denver Broncos are now on the clock. **Sorry for the delay everyone. Honey-do list errands. Happy wife, happy life. Apologies.**
  25. I appreciate the post. However, Julio Jones (who the Falcons made a move similar to what we're discussing here for the Bills) and Mike Evans are likely headed to the Hall of Fame, and Ja'Marr Chase has certainly shown that kind of talent, too (though obviously he needs to sustain it for a decade+ to have a shot at the Hall). My point is that yes, sometimes you strike out when you draft a receiver early. But sometimes you also draft an elite player, and maybe even a Hall of Fame player. Ask the Bills front office that traded up for Watkins if they regret their decision, and they'll surely tell you they do. But ask the Falcons front office that traded up for Julio Jones if they regret THEIR decision, and they'll surely tell you they don't. Again, it all comes down to risk tolerance. No one is refuting that there is great risk inherent in trading up for a receiver. There is also potentially great reward. Those who feel that you should "never" trade up in the draft for a receiver are, in my opinion, simply opposed to taking the risk that that move represents. Those of us who don't mind the idea, and maybe even advocate for it, are willing to accept the risk. As I've stated previously in this thread, I think the Bills need more elite playmakers around Josh Allen, and I think their best chance at adding an elite playmaker to the offense in this draft is to trade up for Malik Nabers, Rome Odunze, or Brian Thomas. None of those players are sure things. They're impressive enough prospects, though, that I'm okay with taking the risk.
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