Commsvet11
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1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:
The correct answer would be he’d have gone #1.
Well yes he would have and no teams would have traded out, but your situation is fantasy, the plain fact is at
the time of the draft KC wanted a player, found a trade partner and spent quite a bit of draft capital.
You think they did that on whim?
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4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:
Ask yourself this simple question:
If Mahomes was projected to have 48 TDs in his first full season, do you think he'd have lasted to the point he did?
There would be no way to tell the exact numbers but due to the draft capital the chiefs spent they had to have an idea and they didn’t even need a QB that year.
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4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:
No one, Andy Reid included, knew THIS was going to be the outcome. And if you insist they did, you're a fool.
You have to be pretty sure about a prospect to swap a 1st and spend a 1st and 3rd on a player.
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55 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
I think the answer to that is the same as it has been all year....they are not losing on purpose....they just are not going out of their way trying to win either
Its just about getting Josh Allen experience under center this year, figuring out what young guys can play, and riding it out till they can get to their 90 million in cap space and 10 draft picks in the offseason
Not sure I like the message of not going out of your way to win, If your not actively trying to win then you are indeed planning to lose. I don’t care about high draft picks, if you have the right front office then you never need worry about what position your picking because they can find talent no matter what position.
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24 minutes ago, Ned Kelly said:
No! It's a salty question.
To quote myself "can't see the forest through the trees"
12/11 1st qtr
Bills 14
Jets 0
Final Bills 41 Jets 10
10/12 1st qt
Bills 14
Jets 3
If the Bills won, their 1st round draft pick would have gone to from pick 6 to 13+
Why is this so hard to comprehend?
...don't answer that. ?
Yeah.
But nah. I doubt the Pegulas and or the powers that McB are in it to appease the likes of you.
Your asinine & " salty" question? Was both boring and not worth the reply ?
This has nothing to do with the question on whether clappers should keep his job next year, but that’s okay it leads to another question.
With what you posted above,
do you really believe the Bills are losing on purpose for draft position?
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3 minutes ago, Ned Kelly said:
"Salty" much?
Your response to an excellent post before our discussion
You don’t think it’s a reasonable question to discuss?
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6 minutes ago, Ned Kelly said:
"Salty" not at all. It's not often your right but your wrong again.
I'm just bored with the diatribe that is posted on TBD to act as novacaine for the stupid after every loss.
If you can't see the irony in my initial post pointing out that the great Bill Belichick still makes mistakes and the mistakes made by a second year coach with few tools to work with.
Im sorry, I can't help.
You continue to allude that people cannot learn daily, weekly even yearly. Your inability to accept that you are wrong on this makes you sound "dumb".
Again I can't help you with this.
No need to feel butthurt. I'm wrong very often and have make many mistakes which I continue to learn from.
Perhaps you can tell me what Rex Ryan learned from his HC job with the Jets to apply to his stint when he was the Bills head coach.
Some people learn, some people don’t. Some have an arrogance that inhibits them from learning we can see this right here, with you as a fine example.
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12 minutes ago, Ned Kelly said:
Again this makes no sense.
To suggest he learnt nothing during his time at Cleveland is dumb.
You think Bill went into his second year as a coach having learnt nothing from his rookie year as coach?
Ps No need to edit your quotes so as to put my comments out of context.
Of all the flavors there are in the world you choose to be salty.
You mentioned people would want BB fired for his mistakes, I counter with his wins, playoff appearances, super bowl appearances and rings give him a pass, you then try to smart off by saying he had losing seasons when he started Hea coaching, which I countered with he was after all fired.
Now you brought up a point BB had losing seasons, not I, and now then tell me he learned through his time in Cleveland?
Well if he learned during his time in Cleveland, he wouldn’t have had losing seasons and wouldn’t have been fired.
No, it was after Cleveland when he took a step back, he learned, that’s why he had that one bad season in NE and the rest is history.
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16 minutes ago, Ned Kelly said:
What does the Bills being historically bad have to do with the McDermott or Beane?
So yes, some fans do act like "cry-babies" and can't see the forest for the trees.
Next year I hope and expect we improve.
Going to be a young and exciting team.
Mistakes will be made.
Why do you say he didn't learn anything? This make no sense.
They waited 5 years.
I said he did learn, AFTER he was fired from Cleveland and took a step back, he absolutely should have been fired at that time period, you get to look back in hindsight, not considering the question of would he have been the coach he is had he never been fired.
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Just now, Ned Kelly said:
Correct. You don' think he learnt anything and grew as a coach during that time?
His first season at NE also sucked.
He did learn but it wasn’t with Cleveland now was it? Do You think Cleveland
(if Cleveland never moved )should have waited and see for several year if he was going to be the right coach?
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1 minute ago, Ned Kelly said:
5 losing records in first 6 years as head coach. ?
And was fired wasn’t he?
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3 minutes ago, Ned Kelly said:
Should the Patriots fire Bill Belichick?
He's been an HC for more than 25 years and still makes mistakes.
Some people wouldn't be happy regardless of who was HC at the Bills.
Im pretty sure all those playoffs appearances, Super Bowl appearances and Super Bowl rings give BB a bit of leway.
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43 minutes ago, Generic Screen Name 2 said:
This is complete and total B.S. You just keep believing what you want to believe. You're totally over-complicating things but whatever makes you feel better I guess.
Say/ think whatever you want about the "process" and what kinds of players they want (you're making way too much out of that too.) McDermott and Beane are not going anywhere for at least a few more years. You can bank on that. And they shouldn't go anywhere. They should be given a fair chance to turn things around. The long-haul type of turnaround not the mediocre Whaley type band-aid fix that gets you exactly middle-of-the-road and nothing more.
These owners are actually a lot more intelligent than you give them credit for. They know they needed a solid, long-term plan to give this team any chance of being a contender. They have what you obviously don't have: patience. It's called the 'big picture'. But, in order to see the big picture, you have to stop crying for a minute about every loss this year and probably next. You all are so ridiculous. They've been on board less than 2 seasons now but you're already throwing in the towel? Seriously? You keep firing everyone every few years and what do you honestly expect will happen?
So McD should keep his job next year if he produces the same results next year?
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8 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:
You sure about that?
I am. It is possible the bills finish 6-10 for the season, with better coaching decisions it could have been an 8-8 season, which could be commended, however the coaching decisions are currently suspect, so there should be an expectation of 1-3 games lost on coaching decisions on those games next season.
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10 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:
Not really. I also don't like going 8-8/7-9 year in and year out.
I would start getting comfortable with that range if I were you because that is what your going to see
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If Bills picked up Hunt now, it would be a PR nightmare......this year.
By next year it will be forgotten.
If the bills pick up Hunt now, that is one draft pick you don’t have to use, he is a proven commodity, he can help you win.
If there is another incident just cut him, I don’t see the downside, maybe a few upset fans but by next year they won’t care.
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Just now, KD in CA said:
Ya know, I don't really care if someone prioritizes winning football over not employing sub-human scum, but can we please dispense with the absurd 'second chance' narrative?
Are you suggesting second chances do not happen in this league and further more the bills haven’t participated in giving second chances ?
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Somebody will give him a second chance, these players aren’t all choir boys, and the bills have had their fair share of problematic players.
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Just imagine the atmosphere if you could be present at the game, must be very exciting, even for chief fans
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52 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:
If he is the greatest prospect since Elway and you believe he has lived up to the hype then by definition you think he is better than:
Brady, Rodgers Manning, Favre, Kelly, Marino, Roethlisberger, Bledsoe, Moon, McNair, Rivers, Romo, Wentz, Aikman, Ryan, Newton, Brees, Stafford, Warner, Wilson and probably 10 more that I forgot.
I think he has been better than some of the guys listed above. Do you believe he has been better than all of them?
He is 29, he could possibly play for another ten years, who knows where they go, say the colts start winning superbowls in those ten years then yes you might have to have that conversation.
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21 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
You expect NFL teams to not rebiuld? Good luck with that.
Are you happier with the 7-9 and 8-8 seasons where we dont go to the playoffs but pick in the 20's?
The bills could be 7-9 this season.
Regardless, it’s not where you pick, it is who you pick.
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6 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:
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Just now, Alphadawg7 said:
The why did the 17-0 Pats that set all offensive records lose to the Giants? Why didnt Peyton Manning win more? Why has Brees not won one in years and only made playoffs a couple times last 7 years? Why hasn’t Rivers played in one? Why hasn’t Luck? Why did the Pats lose after setting SB offense records last year? Why hasn’t Rogers won more than one? Why hasn’t he been back in years? Why does Andy Reid not have a SB ring as a HC?
But yeah...offense wins championships. Hahaha so dumb. Offense CAN win a championship, just like defenses can (see recent champs like Denver 2015, Seattle, Ravens, Giants 3 times, etc) and so can balanced teams. There are many ways to win the SB.
So youre right, but not really, and still very wrong.
Tyree catch.....offense beat offense. That’s how you beat them
Was it eagles offense or defense that won the Super Bowl last year? Oh offense again. Denver’s defense was good WITH manning, the next year they failed to make the playoffs when he retired, and that D was dismantled
within a season.Seattle had Russell Wilson, and Baltimore was 18 years ago.
You keep asking why several of these Offense Players and coaches haven’t won more superbowls, and that’s answered by the better offenses like the Patriots have in the playoffs. But they have won superbowls.
While you only have a few defenses for examples all but one had above average QB on them and you had to go 18 years back to find one that didn’t have an above average starter, because the one year with Baltimore that your thinking of Flacco was on fire for the playoffs.
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Just now, Alphadawg7 said:
I didn't say defense wins championships, I said there are many ways to win championships. And Brady lost 2 with the most prolific offenses in history to Eli Manning and the Giants Defense who shut them down compared to their regular season.
That’s because offenses win championships.
That is why McD has already failed.
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That is how they want to build the team, I don’t agree with it, but different schools of thought I guess.