oldmanfan

I respectfully disagree. I think Josh could end up being the GOAT if he can control the picks. Otherwise I fear he’s Favre or Rogers, a first ballot HOFer but a guy whose teams could have won more titles if he had been less reckless. Merry Christmas to you as well! And not depressed in the least.

Yeah, I was sitting in the Rockpile opening day 1960 but I’m new to football. I’m glad they figured it out finally yesterday, but they did not play well overall and they need to be playing better to have a shot. I hope it was a wake up call.

Again I don’t give a rat’s ass what other QBs do, but Mahomes has certainly had seasons with single digit Int’s. So did guys like Brady. Excuse me for hoping our star QB can aspire to being even better than he already is.

They played better than most thought, we played worse than most thought. Thankfully we pulled it out.

Statistical analysis is hard, I know. I’ve only had to do it in my job for 40 some years.

Wrap your head around actual statistics. Each throw a QB makes is an independent event, with numerous variables affecting the outcome. If you throw into coverage, or across the field, or fail to read coverages, each of these independent variables affects the success of a single throw. A You cut down picks by controlling and minimizing the effect of the independent variables. Or, in your analogy, you cut down your STD risk by the 45 not being street workers. It’s a variable within your control.

Hardy and Cook’s miscues almost killed us. The slow start drive me insane. Thankfully Josh became Good Josh the second half.

I have seen a ton of truly terrible Bills football over the years. This year’s team has the potential to win it all, but needs to play better than last night to do so. How can anyone argue that? I’m sorry I’m not giddy over beating a team with a kid playing his first meaningful football at QB. I’m happy we did, but concerned about how we played. Has nothing to do with age. Again I don’t give a damn about other teams. I care how the Bills and their players play.

If you would READ that comment was directed at the idea that one should compare Allen to other QBs as a way apparently to justify his throwing too many picks. Really? Throwing less than a pick a game is unrealistic? Get serious.

I thought it would be a tougher game than many thought given teams play hard for interim HCs. But with our clear advantage in talent we should not have had it come down to a game winning FG with less than a minute left.

Ideally? Zero. Reality? I would say less than 8 on the year. He should at most throw one every other game.

Fair point.

Well that’s reality. If it’s so obvious why do so many have a problem with it? Because I love the Bills and have for 63 years.

Of course I can. What an absurd statement to make. Josh’s play is on Josh as is Mahomes’ on him annd so on. To suggest otherwise is similar to being the kid who gets caught stealing a cookie out of the cookie jar and saying: Well Johnnie did it too. I think Josh is the most physically gifted QB in the league, one if the top 3 in the league. But a legitimate criticism is he throws too many picks. Why is that so difficult to accept?

Back at ya!

I’ll explain again. It’s OK to be happy about the win, but to also acknowledge the team did not play well. It’s OK to acknowledge all Bills fans love having Josh as our Qb but acknowledge his throwing picks so much is a bad thing. And so on. These are not mutually exclusive. And that is reality. We won, that’s great. But we cannot expect to play like that again. We were fortunate to win; the next effort like that and the season is done.

What does another QBs performance have to do with Allen’s?

I could care less what they do. What about isms are meaningless. How Josh plays has nothing to do with how other QBs play.

Yes, we played very well the two games prior but almost threw away any chance by the performance yesterday. When I ask why more are not realistic this is what I’m getting to. The Bills have been maddeningly inconsistent all year. As great as Josh is his penchant for throwing picks is an issue. The defense plays great at times but folds too often late (recent trends are more positive there). This team has the ability to run the table. But I also wouldn’t be shocked if they lose to the Cheatriots.

Good point. Should have included him.

Agreed. It’s the consistency or lack thereof that is the concern.

When the Bills play up to their capabilities, no one. Problem is our inconsistency.

Good points. I admit I probably want more out of Josh than some. If he could play smarter and cut down the picks he’d be a Brady/Montana type. He’s more a Favee now who, while a first ballot HoFer, should have won more Lombardis than he did because he was reckless too much.

I told you we had 3 turnovers. Lucky to overcome those.

It’s a discussion board. People post opinions. That’s why the board exists.