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This could similar to missing out on Roethlisberger by a few picks. If the Browns move up, they have the ammunition, but how far would they go up? Would the Bills move up, and how far would they move up, and what would they have to give up? Obviously this depends on if either the Browns or Bills really would take a QB in the top 12 picks.
Comparison to Big Ben seems misplaced, to put it mildly.
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Let's be honest. Ralph's entire ownership reign was failure after failure with one small window of getting lucky in the middle. The Bills were a joke in the 60s, 70s, and early 80s. Did ok from late-80s through the 90s, then right back to being the same joke team that lost to the Dolphins for a decade straight (70s), and then the Pats for almost 2 decades straight.
The Bills were AFL champions two years n a row in the 60's. What are you talking about?
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so your first point was "it was a need to draft a RB before losing Gill", and now your point is "we dont need to draft a RB because we have Jwill and Tolbert and can add a vet FA".....soooooooo which is it? lol
Long term vs. short term planning. They don't have to draft a guy for short term as they have things covered, but they could look at a guy more for the long term assuming Shady has maybe another couple years.
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why would anyone?
Because the owners will provide you with financial and other resources to put together things the way you want to, but then hold you accountable such that then if you fail, it's on you.
If I were a coach I'd think that's a pretty fair deal.
Surprised by the Murray move (kinda), but agree that is how it should be done. Fire/hire GMs and HCs together. Otherwise you get into a cycle where the HC is being hamstrung by the new GM and then the GM is being hamstrung by the new HC every other year.
Which is why I believe the Pegulas should give McD and Whaley the next 3 years (time remaining on Whaley's contract) together without making any changes. See if the boat will right itself over time (while also giving the Pegulas time to get more ingrained and networked with "Football people"). Then, if we still suck 3 years from now, clean house and rebuild from the foundation up.
But the Bills, specifically, need some stability more than anything else (outside of a generational franchise QB).
Both franchises need that stability.
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The question was raised above if the owners are panicking? Of course not. In the Sabres case, they gave Murray 4 years or so to build the franchise up. He stripped the team to get Eichel, and now for the last two years the team has not shown any improvement. questionable decisions of FAs, moving guys up to the big roster, etc. Terry wants performance, and in this case he gave Murray all the authority and control he could ask for including selecting his HC. And if anything this year you saw regression instead of progress. So he made the call to go in a different direction.
You can't on the one hand be critical of him for sticking with Regier too long, hen turn around and be critical of him for getting rid of Murray too soon. Terry it seems to me has shown his ownership philosophy. He will support his management team, support them in their HC selection, support them in terms of FA contracts and so on. But in return he wants to see progress towards a sustained winning team. He didn't see that with his current management structure with the Sabres, so he made a change.
With the Bills, he hired Ryan, gave him direct reporting authority over Whaley (which I disagreed with, but the longer I watch things with Whaley the more I think he doesn't want that and is a company man that will toe the line with what the owner wants), Rex got players he wanted in the draft and free agency, even got to hire his brother and again the owners saw no progress at all. So he made a change.
You can put some blame on Terry for the hires in the first place, and perhaps having a guy to run total operations of hockey and of football might be helpful, but I don't think you can assign blame for making changes when things with each team are stagnant if not regressing.
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He's an athlete. You know who else was an athlete, Mayhem Maybin.
They should have tried Maybin at SS.
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They might be locks to be taken round 1 but they're not locks to succeed.
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It will be interesting to see how these guys perform in McDermott's more zone based concepts. I think a main reason they let Gilmore go , in addition to the $$, is that they didn't think he would fit their coverage schemes well.
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I'd look at the kid from Pitt or the kid from Miami in round 3. I am not of the opinion you should move way up to draft questionable guys at QB just because they play QB.
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I will have to find it again, but a writer for one of the football websites took Graham apart on this. He added up daft picks on rosters only from drafts since Whaley has been GM, and found no significant differences between us and other teams.
Not to say Whaley can't be better at drafting, but it's just another example of unjustified criticism.
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If that were true, why are they trying to sign him?
If that were true, why are they trying to sign him?
I don't pretend to understand BB's mind. But there is no way they'd get into a bidding war over a second string RB.
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As much as I despise the patriots, if Gillislee is good enough for them, it should be a no brainer to keep him. Same with Hogan last year. Unfortunately Bills didn't have ability to match Gilmore. I know that Patriots aren't infallible but Bills are in no position to be thinking they are smarter than Patriots. 2 years, $6m isn't breaking the bank. Hopefully McDermott is smart enough to over-ride whoever in the organization thinks they're smarter than Bellichik.
Guess we should have kept Scott Chandler then.
I will say again I hope they keep MG. But I would pose the following: if the tables were turned and it was the Bills offering 4 mil to MG, and the Pats had to make the call as to match or not, what do you think they'd do? That's correct, they'd let him go without a second thought and move on.
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Yeah ,I remember when the P. Pirates in baseball were like that. Kept bringing along young players ,only to let them go. They would not pay anybody. They suffered for it big time. The question is can you replace Gilly with a 5th rounder ? He is proven to work here. It is a crap shoot. You can say ,he can easily be replaced. BUT you don`t know for sure. We have No other back to pick up the load when Shady gets dinged.
Absolutely untrue. WIlliams and Tolbert are already on the roster. Not that I don't want to see MG kept, but making statements like this is just absurd.
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My heart goes out to those who lost loved ones because of his criminal behavior. I am always saddened to see young people with talent and a bright future just throw it away as he did.
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When he gets released since they have 6 RBs we can bring him back.
Whaley gets ripped for this but absolute silence in keeping Groy, who arguably might be more important.
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. Half? Easily. As good? Maybe not.Not sure any player we have is winning us a Superbowl, that's not the way I look at it.
The running game was a big part of our scoring system, and TD Mike was a significant part of that. The best #2 back in the league.
Shady needs breathers and we never lost a beat with Mike. Watch the 2nd Miami game this year he was the reason we were even in it. Fastest man on the field by far.
McDermott said he's a believer in running the ball, yet we just let a very good value guy walk for a million bucks per year.
Do you think Jonathan Williams will be half the producer Mike was?
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If they wind up meeting the offer, think of the number of wasted electrons.
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A lot of guys coming in now have limited if any experience taking a direct snap from center. Guys coming out now need even more time to develop, but fans and owners want immediate results. It adds up to more and more QB failures.
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You can easily explain why each mistake along the way is no big deal, but lots and lots of little mess ups add up over time and mean a lot.
It's free agency. Guys move around. You think the Pack is happy that Hyde left?
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I know I may sound like a broken record at this point, but people should read this if they haven't yet: http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/patriots-still-reaping-rewards-seymour-deal .
My point is that we need to think about who we're dealing with here.
Also, as for those mocking the length of this thread and saying that it wouldn't be nearly as long as if SF were the suitor, no sh*t. The reason it's a big deal is the other party--the party that has dominated the Bills for over a decade and a half.
Belichick is the best. I don't see anyone questioning that.
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Yes, they have to match it or let him go. A 2nd round tender would have cost $2.7M and any team would have to surrender a 2nd rounder to sign him. They used the original round tender at $1.7M so the team that signs him only has to surrender their pick from that round (5th in his case). Now if they want MG it is 2 years and $6.4M (or whatever the offer sheet was).
Then let NE overpay for a year
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Because the Pats are seriously overpaying for the guy. Should the Bills do the same?I know, that's my point. It would have been cheaper to give him the 2nd round tender than to have to match this deal.
I'm not sure of the rules but do they have to exactly match the offer or put a deal together that's better?
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that would be a million dollars thenA second round tender for this year was $2.76M. They tendered MG at $1.7 instead.
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Now you're lying on Colin Cowherd as an expert. You've officially lost it.
Pegula shows Tim Murray and Dan Bylsma the door.
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Not if you grew up with them in the 60's like I did.