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58 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
The one question I think it is fair for someone who doesn't like this pick to ask is "what percentage of snaps are you going to get for your investment?" because he is overwhelmingly a 3Tech defensive tackle, playing the same spot as Ed Oliver
It's funny because we had this same discussion in one of the TSW mocks where Nolen was on the board at #30. My response then is the same now - I just don't worry about how you get him on the field. Talented pass rushers will eventually find their way on the field no matter what. If it mostly comes in 3rd down packages, so be it. If nothing else that helps us fix our biggest problem on defense last year which was of course 3rd down conversions. Philly won a Super Bowl not because they had exactly 4 good DL players, but because they had waves of pass rushers that they were able to relentlessly send after Mahomes snap after snap. So drafting a 3T over a 1T in the 2nd round was always my preferred outcome.
I'll also throw out there that we're drafting for 4 years and hopefully beyond, not just year one. When we drafted Bernard and Dorian Williams in consecutive years most fans thought it was a waste of resources on a position that was seen as a strength, but both of those picks ended up being vitally important. I don't expect this to happen but we can save $13M on the cap in 2027 if we cut Oliver that year. It's sensible to have options in the pipeline that make that sort of scenario possible.
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7 minutes ago, noacls said:
All those players will play more than a 5th WR.
I'm sorry but this just isn't true. Our backup safety is not going to play more snaps than our #5 WR. In case of injury, sure. But the #5 WR is basically a starter and is expected to contribute in every single game. Our top 5 last year were Shakir, Hollins, Coleman, Samuel, and MVS. They ended up replacing MVS with Cooper because he wasn't contributing at all. That's how important that spot is on the roster. It isn't just a backup position.
Thankfully I don't believe Beane agrees with you. We heavily scouted and met with all of the vertical WRs in this class so I expect us to draft one today. I'm hoping it happens within the first 10 picks of the 4th round after a trade up.
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8 minutes ago, noacls said:
Being simple is thinking a 4th round WR is going to give anyone space on offense and that a defense will adjust to them.
The #5 WR on our depth chart right now is Laviska Shenault. That can't still be the case at this time tomorrow. That would represent a huge failure to address the position and would probably force us to bring back Amari Cooper who might be washed. We don't need to draft a superstar today but we need someone that pushes Shenault off the roster and adds a skill set that doesn't currently exist in the room. If your only response to that is "4th round players don't scare defenses" then you're not really giving serious thought to the discussion.
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46 minutes ago, stevestojan said:
That’s gotta make Cam Ward feel a certain way.
You know I've been thinking Ward and the Titans are the biggest beneficiaries of this whole fiasco. Has there ever been less buzz over a #1 overall QB? They get to dodge all the usual scrutiny that comes with such a selection because the media is too busy paying attention to the circus.
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12 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said:
I don’t understand a lot hate on this thread
You can predict the fanbase's reaction to a pick by how often that player was mocked to the Bills. Seriously. A CB was a common 1st round pick in mocks but not usually Hairston so the reaction was somewhat mixed. No one mocked Sanders or any 3T to the Bills high so fans mostly hated that pick. Jackson was mocked to us by just about everybody so fans universally loved the pick.
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5 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:
this guy reminds me of Boogie
I want you to explain this player comp.
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3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
can't imagine they make it through another 30 picks.
Yeah probably have to trade up. And I'd do that for sure. We don't need three 5th rounders.
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So now it is down to Royals or Horton in the 4th round for me.
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Did anyone else just feel like they were having a stroke when the same person walked onto the stage and made the same exact speech?
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Just now, gonzo1105 said:
Its like how long will they wait to punish that family before they actually are like okay its deep enough in the draft now to take him.
If someone takes him with the very last pick and makes him Mr. Irrelevant I'll believe it's deliberate collusion.
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At this rate you'll hear my name called before Shadeur
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I guess the interviews at the combine really were THAT bad
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Just now, GunnerBill said:
To be fair to them, there was not a ton of those guys in this draft. Most of the receivers in this class are #2s and #3s... complimentary players. I still want an outside guy with some speed from what is left but I don't expect any of those guys to become a true #1 alpha type.
Yeah I mostly agree, despite being the #1 WR advocate on here I was fine going defense early because that's where the value of the class was going to be. I am happy with the players we selected where we selected them. I just hope all the defensive investments end up mattering when it counts.
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1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said:
Which is why we are sticking to the same strategy -- that the Eagles used to force those punts. Pressure with front 4- take away quick passing game.
This is the right move, it's a player e v a l issue if this doesn't work. Which is my concern, Beane and staff haven't crushed DL historically but now just poured 5 new players into the equation ( so far): Bosa, Oji, Hoecht, Sanders, Jackson.
I thought they'd remake the secondary with more speed in FA. Hit Max in draft, S is the weakness- guess they're counting on Bishop/DL to cause enough havoc to hide them.
I do understand the strategy. If you just look at the stats especially in the playoffs it seems obvious on the face of it we need defense more than offense. I still feel like over investing in the offense would have been an equally viable strategy, but they went in the more expected direction. I just hope all of the investments create a different result. We apparently don't want to give Allen that alpha that can make a clutch play for him at the end, so the defense needs to be good enough that we don't need that clutch play at the end.
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
I think they will take a receiver with their first pick tomorrow. Currently #132.... but I think they will use another day 3 pick to get up a bit higher in the 4th.
Two of our 5ths could get us to the top of the 4th. I'd be looking to do something like that for Royals, Felton, or Horton, whoever happens to still be on the board. I'll be disappointed if our vertical WR addition ends up being like Arian Smith in the 7th. I want a legit prospect.
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4 minutes ago, Low Positive said:
Chiefs punted twice in the AFCCG.
They punted more times in the Super Bowl than they've punted against us in all 3 playoff matchups combined. Let's be real, our defense has been a massive disappointment in those games. So we gave McDermott all his toys. I'm not going to totally hate on the strategy. But the strategy needs to produce a different result.
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I'll say this - we just spent all of our premium picks on defense. McDermott got all of the big investments. These players have to show up in the playoffs, no more games against KC where they never punt. In a vacuum I'm not a fan of drafting zero offensive players in the top 100 and once again leaving Allen to do it all on his own. But we'll see if they picked the right players which is ultimately what matters.
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This is one of the only times the Bills have been heavily connected to a player and we actually took him.
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Woah that is a massive reach for Detroit. All of their picks have been really poor value IMO.
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Damn there goes my preferred pick. I'd still be happy with Royals, Felton, or Horton here.
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Pass rush could be real scary for the Giants. Unfortunately for them that applies to both sides of the ball.
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1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:
We got outrushed 172 to 64 vs the Bengals.
Sure. We still did not lose that game because of our run defense.
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7 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
But to me it’s the same philosophy that has lead us to our playoff collapses. What works in the regular season won’t work in the playoffs. As we have shown time and time again. That’s involves run defense. 130+ rushing yards in the 4 of 5 playoff losses.
We haven't lost a single playoff game because of our run defense.
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1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:
Guessing they are off the board, but when do Bond and or Green become worth the risk?
The stuff about Green and Bond are so bad I don't want them in my city even if it's for free
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2025 NFL Draft Thread : Rounds 4-7
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Chimere ***** knows how to really ***** the ball out of the air