WideRightRevenge
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https://sports.yahoo.com/trade-fits-jacksonville-jaguars-running-010637182.html
Thoughts ... me I'll take this all day long ... although he gets injured I'll take a much younger RB that my have a chip on his shoulder post JAX.
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Sammy Watkins 2.0
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On 2/13/2019 at 7:33 PM, Pete said:
9: R1P9
DL ED OLIVER
HOUSTON
41: R2P9
WR DK METCALF
OLE MISS
71: R3P7
S DEIONTE THOMPSON
ALABAMA
113: R4P11
RB MIKE WEBER
OHIO STATE
131: R4P29
C ROSS PIERSCHBACHER
ALABAMA
149: R5P10
OT DAVID EDWARDS
WISCONSIN
159: R5P20
QB TYREE JACKSON
BUFFALO
184: R6P9
WR ANTHONY JOHNSON
BUFFALO
224: R7P8
EDGE CORBIN KAUFUSI
BYU
230: R7P14
WR HAKEEM BUTLER
IOWA STATEHow does Hakeem Butler sit in Round 7?
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21 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
One, my "casual fan" statement is not an insult to people who like him, I myself am also a casual fan of College Football where I won't know every prospect from every school.
Two, its ok to appreciate what Mel does, just like its ok for me to not like him. I have friends who enjoy Stephen A. Smith while myself and plenty others cant stand him. People dont have to take it so personal that others dislike the guy. He is a putz in my book, thats just my opinion.
Three, why does everyone keep talking about the top 10? I mean who cares, everyone gets most of the top 10 right in terms of what players are chosen. Thats NOT a hard thing to do, there is ALWAYS a clear picture of who the most likely first 10 players are going to be. Its not like someone projected to go 25th suddenly gets taken 3rd overall very often unless you are the Raiders drafting.
This "top ten picks" keeps getting bought up as some kind of "validation" of Kiper, yet I beat him last year as a casual fan as I had 9 of the 10 players right. The only person I had in top 10 that didn't go was Minkah and he went 11th, the guy I had not mocked top 10 was McGlitchey even though I had him top 15. So I guess that makes me better than Kiper. So no disrespect, but I could care less if he got 8 out of 10 right, just about everyone did the same thing or better. Kiper also got most the teams wrong in the top 10, I beat him there too decisively...and I am no one special nor am I paid to do this for a living.
Since you're a self proclaimed casual fan .. and you beat Mel head to head .. still waiting to hear the other resources you referenced in your post that you use for your pre draft intel as its obviously good given your draft picking acumen.
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18 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Yes he is an entertainer like Skip Bayless or Stephen A. Smith...not a guy with a track record of accuracy. If you find entertainment value in him, great, thats his job. If you look to him for more accurate projections and insight, he's not very good at that compared to others even though he has a god complex about his own opinions like Stephen A. Smith.
And you dont have to tell me the bolded, I proclaim that all the time. GMs are wrong more than they are right...thats because its impossible to accurately predict the future at a high rate of success. However, Kiper is no where near the realm of accuracy of successful GM's, yet he blasts them and blasts them hard when they pick a player Kiper doesn't agree with despite the fact those GM's know a massive amount more than Kiper does about Football, player projections and the players themselves. Kiper has to review the entire college football program...GMs and Scouts spend substantial amounts of more time analyzing specific players they believe will specifically fit into that teams plans, schemes, and philosophy. So they have a lot more insight when they pick a specific player than Kiper.
So once again, the reason Kiper gets so much flack is that he projects this god complex about his opinion over those who are paid a lot of money to know more than him about football, the draft, and the players. He never accepts any accountability for how wrong he is so frequently, never apologizes to any teams he blasted that prove their pick was the right choice over his. He just keeps going like he's never been wrong.
Kipers only value is to help casual fans know some names they wouldnt really know if not for people like him. However, there are more likable and more accurate sources for the same information out there. Just like sports show hosts Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith...they are entertainment value for those who find their schtick entertaining...but if you want more accurate assessments, more grounded opinions (not rooted in click bait antics), and a deeper discussion of sports there are better choices out there than those two buffoons.
In today's ESPN quick hit society ... please share your other sources for us "casual fans" who actually appreciate Mel and what he does. You say above he is not a guy with a track record of accuracy. He hit 8 of the top 10 picks last year (granted not by right team) .. the drop outs were Rosen and Edmunds. You may not like his personality, but you have to respect the niche he created.
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6 hours ago, Da webster guy said:
Well, he got ONE out of 32 correct (saquon to the Gmen)
Interesting that he had Josh going first to the Browns and Tremaine going to daBears at 8.
I posted this because I forgot how ridiculously off the mark every mock is, every year without fail. I think the only time I ever guessed right on the Bills was Dareus, and a lot of people saw that happening.
Kiper may be a blowhard, but he's well connected and he has a 97% fail rate.
Right in the meaty part of the curve....
https://www.espnsa.com/2018-nfl-mock-draft-2-0-mel-kipers-picks-1-32/
I totally disagree with this take ... he maybe doesn't get the right team .. but he had 80% of the top 10 picks .. (8 for 10) he called Edmunds and Rosen that dropped to picks 11-20 ... my point is ... he's the original ... he created a bunch of cash flow in an industry that now has a bunch of copy cats (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery) ... mad props to Mel ... he provides insight to players I don't see often .. I'll take Mel and mocks any day in February when there is no football (all due respect to the new league on CBS).
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Well ... I can put that on the history list .. I was honored to see in person his last day as a Dolphin in a game ..
ERRRR ... make that more honored to be present for Kyle Williams' last game ... and here was the parting gift that day from Tannehill .. he prepped all week to present it
Passing COMP ATT PCT YDS TD INT QBR 18 31 58.1 147 0 2 43.3
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17 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 9: Oliver, Ed, DT, Houston (A)
Round 2 Pick 8: Risner, Dalton, OT/OG, Kansas State (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Lindstrom, Chris, OG, Boston College (A)
Round 4 Pick 10: Mack, Alize, TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 4 Pick 29: Bradbury, Garrett, C, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 9: Hall, Emanuel, WR, Missouri (A+)
Round 5 Pick 20: Henderson, Darrell, RB, Memphis (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Cheevers, Hamp, CB, Boston College (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Boykin, Miles, WR, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 7 Pick 14: Tranquill, Drue, OLB, Notre Dame (A)I love first-pick cause you can go nuts with trades. This is a no-trade draft. I'll post an insane trade down draft next.
Round 1 Pick 24 (OAK): Cajuste, Yodny, OT, West Virginia (B+)
Round 1 Pick 27 (OAK): Risner, Dalton, OT/OG, Kansas State (B)
Round 2 Pick 8: Jones, Dre'Mont, DT, Ohio State (A)
Round 2 Pick 12 (G.B.): Hockenson, T.J., TE, Iowa (B)
Round 2 Pick 15 (CAR): Butler, Hakeem, WR, Iowa State (B)
Round 3 Pick 10: Snell Jr, Benny, RB, Kentucky (A)
Round 3 Pick 13 (CAR): Joseph, Vosean, OLB, Florida (A)
Round 4 Pick 10: Bradbury, Garrett, C, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 29: Samuel, Deebo, WR, South Carolina (A+)
Round 5 Pick 9: Cheevers, Hamp, CB, Boston College (A+)
Round 5 Pick 20: Mack, Alize, TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Renfrow, Hunter, WR, Clemson (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Russell, Dontavius, DT, Auburn (A+)
Round 7 Pick 14: Joseph, Kendall, ILB, Clemson (A+)This would obviously never happen, I just like the website and highly recommend it for anyone who likes to mess around: first-pick.com
Would love this pull in the first 5 picks on the top draft (that's the core of a new OL right there)
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Like the trade back portrayed in this draft .. but not a fan of this pick later in this mock
63. New England PatriotsTyree Jackson | QB | BuffaloHate for a UB player to go to the Pats -
22 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I think tight ends are really difficult to project. The way tight ends are used in college is a little different these days as a lot of them really can't block. Why is it that Zach Ertz is so amazing but guys like Gavin Escobar or Troy Niklas flame out?
It really is about fit in a system and how the tight end is going to be used. And talent of course. So I think a tight end in the top ten is a very risky proposition, because it really is a boom or bust pick, like Eric Ebron. However, there is a ton of value that can be found late first round, early second.
With all of that said, TJ Hockenson is the real deal. Would I take him at 9? Not sure yet, but if we are going to make him a focal point of our offense, then I'd be all for it. I think you have to find the right fit and then make a concentrated effort to make the guy a main part of your offense, like KC and Philly have done with Kelce and Ertz.
And BTW, the history of top ten offensive lineman over the past few years is way worse than the history of tight ends on the first two days of the draft. People continue to reach on mediocre offensive linemen, passing on elite talent. Don't do it. No elite offensive lineman in this draft.
Admittedly I have not done a hard look at TJ .. just was referring to past top TE picks . but your comments intrigue me so will look .. that said .. guess my take comes from the fact that we have admittedly 3 maybe 4 (depending on thoughts on Teller) holes on our OL ... granted many OL draft busts like you indicate over the years ... but at the end of the day the TE is only one position and frankly needs more time than a WR on a slant pattern to get open .. so if no OL talent .. the TE may struggle to produce
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I hear all this love from some for drafting TE's high in the draft .. and maybe that's years of the Gronk effect ... but I don't really see "game changers" at that position lately in the draft .. I just think we can wait till rounds 3-5 to address that position
http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/te
For example the link above shows all the TE's drafted in the last few years .. George Kittle at SF was a 5th rounder and in my opinion he's the best of the bunch going back to 2015 ..my point is .. ... but there aren't a lot of studs coming off their rookie pick .. hence we looking at say a Maxx Williams in FA. But I don't really think OJ Howard, aforementoined Maxx Williams, Hayden Hurst, Mike Gisecki, Dallas Goedert, Austin Saferian Jenkins .. all early picks have been game changes ... maybe Engram . .maybe Njoku ... maybe Hunter Henry .. but look at the carnage for those few nuggets. Stick with OL early please.
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My only comment is I hear all this love for drafting TE's high in the draft .. and maybe that's years of the Gronk effect ... but I don't really see "game changers" at that position lately in the draft .. I just think we can wait till rounds 3-5 to address that position
http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/te
For example the link above shows all the TE's drafted in the last few years .. George Kittle at SF was a 5th rounder and in my opinion he's the best of the bunch going back to 2015 ..my point is .. if we draft a stud .. they may bolt after their rookie contract ... but there aren't a lot of studs coming off their rookie pick .. hence we looking at say a Maxx Williams in FA. But I don't really think OJ Howard, aforementoined Maxx Williams, Hayden Hurst, Mike Gisecki, Dallas Goedert, Austin Saferian Jenkins .. all early picks have been game changes ... maybe Engram . .maybe Njoku ... maybe Hunter Henry .. but look at the carnage for those few nuggets. Stick with OL early please.
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1 hour ago, DCOrange said:
I’ll go with three WRs:
1. Deebo Samuel
2. Tyre Brady
3. Stanley Morgan
Sounds like the Matt Millen strategy in drafting .. we need OL so those WR's have time to get open
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13 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said:
Not really. I get the idea behind but I’m speaking in realistic terms. It’s been established by several people already, “best player available” can be someone different in actuality. You are really drafting the best player available in your area of news
I haven't read the whole thread .. but my take is ... in especially in round 1 and 2 .. you draft for need .... in later rounds you go for BPA .. meaning if you have a 2nd round grade on a player and its the 4th round .. pull the damn trigger.
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On 1/20/2019 at 11:39 PM, #34fan said:
I really, really, enjoyed watching Nick Allegretti… Talk about a versatile O-lineman.... That's my guard all day. -I don't care which round.
Seems like a McD kind of guy
Career Highlights
- 2018 Senior CLASS Award candidate
- 2018 Jason Witten Collegiate Man of the Year semifinalist
- 2018 Campbell Trophy semifinalist
- Two-time Wuerffel Trophy nominee (community service award)
- Two-time AFCA Good Works Team watch list
- Led the Illini's "Lift For Life," which raised over $86,000 for charity in two years
- President of the Illinois Uplifting Athletes chapter, which raises money for rare disease research and treatment
- Influential volunteer at the Tom Jones Challenger League
- Two-time team captain (2017 & '18)
- Three-time Academic All-Big Ten
- Two-time Big Ten Sportsmanship Award winner
- 2018 All-Big Ten second team (media)
- No. 3 rated guard in the nation by PFF in 2018
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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I made some notes will try and write up this afternoon. I didn't think it was the best EWSG I have watched in recent years I must say.
Looking forward to seeing it Gunner
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19 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...who would be your candidates bud?...keep hearing Paradis, but does McElway let him walk?.....John does know EVERYTHING............
The one good thing is they lost their coaching staff including his OL coach ... assuming $$$ is even as at the end of the day .. as that will call the shot ... but would you rather hike the ball to Case K or Josh A
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Given our biggest need .. I'm Going all in on OL .. so here's our new line
Kent Hull
Joe D
Billy Shaw
Will Wolford
and unfortunately the one that got away Jason Peters
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11 hours ago, Bakin said:
I ain’t got ***** to do!!!
Round 1 Pick 9: Oliver, Ed, DT, Houston
Round 2 Pick 10: Risner, Dalton, C/OT, Kansas State
Round 3 Pick 10: Snell Jr, Benny, RB, Kentucky
Round 4 Pick 10: Sills V, David, WR, West Virginia
Round 4 Pick 31: Hanks, Terrill, OLB, New Mexico State
Round 5 Pick 3: Breeland, Jake, TE, Oregon
Round 5 Pick 9: Samia, Dru, OG, Oklahoma
Round 6 Pick 8: Hester, Kiy, CB, Rutgers
Round 7 Pick 11: Jefferson, Cece, DE, Florida
Round 7 Pick 14: Smith, Rodney, RB, Minnesota
Round 7 Pick 28: Gay, Matt, K, Utah
My only thing .. player aside and may very well being BPA .. but would prefer another OL instead of OLB in Round 4, but all for a C in round 2
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Just now, YoloinOhio said:
He’s not my favorite draft guy but I’ve come to enjoy his ESPN radio show on sat mornings with Dari Noka.
Agreed .. my favorite draft guy was Mayock ... but now he's with Chuckie .. so not sure what NFL network will do in his absense
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23 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I get that, but Kiper is also especially bad at that and even worse this early in the process. He’s a blow hard who pushes his ideas that are almost always wrong.
Case in point, two guys he had is taking went 30th and 5th round. And while Hurst going 5th round due to a medical issue discovered during combine is a rare occurrence that made the discrepancy so big, it’s also evidence of why pre combine mocks have little reliable info.
I will also admit I find anything from Kiper as worthless, so I have a negative biased about anything he says out the gate. He’s a blow hard who is wrong like 95% of the time on everyone and everything but gets paid a ton to keep blowing, hard. Lol
I hear you ... but you have to give credit where credit is due .. he carved out a niche and has made a ton of money off it .. so regardless .. he's the "draft guru" whether we agree or not ... he does however spout decent info on players he's picking .. again you can agree or disagree .. he at least provides detail on certain players .. that I know nothing about ... Long Live Mel .. though his hair is struggling of late.
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I know this is a top heavy defensive player draft and best player available mindsets ... but our defense was #2 in YPG allowed with for the year. Now I love Kyle W and he will be missed ... but the needs are on offense .. so if can't trade down .. then overspend the pick on OL player ... where we did good in not allowing yards ..we we're 3rd from the bottom in total yards offensively .... attack the need please in 2019 draft and free agency ... help our QB
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Well .. at least he didn't forget his coffee cup in Miami
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18 hours ago, sullim4 said:
I agree, this kind of pickup would have BB written all over it. He wouldn't be as successful as Brady but look at what he did with Cassel.
I'm OK with any team not in the AFC East ... please ... I want to see the Pats without a legit QB for a while
Process Guys At the Draft
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Pretty classy video ... I'm an instant fan and nothing wrong with two LSU players with same last name on our defense