Nihilarian

What is wrong with you people? 13-3 with the #2 offense, #2 defense points allowed, #6 in yards allowed after being riddled by injures not good enough? So, the team lost in the playoffs...get over it already!

While I agree with so much of what was said about getting rid of Leslie Frazier and looking at his defensive philosophy/scheme. I literally hate that bend but don't break scheme. That Indy Colts game last season 41-15 loss! So, Beane went out and reinforced that Buffalo run defense for 2022...it worked! Although, I can see why McD isn't making a change to his DC just yet. This team just went 13-3 on a very, very difficult season with all the adversity this team faced, key injuries, sickness, snowstorms, heart attack on the field. That Buffalo defense finished #2 in points allowed, #6 in yards allowed in 2022. I can't recall how many times this past season that QB Josh Allen had stated that the Buffalo defense bailed him out of games. The simple truth is that the Buffalo Bills still field one of the best defenses in the NFL. Only four teams scored more than 25 points on Buffalo all season despite all the adversity, injuries to key players. Starting rookies at CB. Needing to trade for Dean Marlow during the season to bolster that secondary. I can only think that Beane was probably in talks with the Texans about reacquiring Jerry Hughes too. So, McD doesn't offer Frazier a new contract. Who is he supposed to hire that would run his defense better? BIG QUESTION, WHO? Right now the only teams that give the Buffalo defense real problems this past season were the Dolphins 19-21 loss (which was more of an offensive failure) Miami 32-29 win. Miami 34-31 win. (This was against backup QB Skylar Thompson, rookie 7th round pick) Scary stuff that the Dolphins have the Buffalo defense figured out now! The other teams are the Chiefs with their elite QB and genius HC, along with the very best TE in the game. (We don't know what would have happened this season in the playoffs against KC because it never happened.) That final game of the season in a 27-10 loss to the Bengals was an over team failure that can only be explained by the thought that the players were emotionally spent. Everything went south, Buffalo both lines. The Bengals came out and made two TD drives in the first quarter that tore the soul out of the team and they never recovered. With no pass rush or pressure on Joe Burrow he did what he wanted. This game was supposed to be about how injury depleted that Bengals were on their O line and yet their backups out played the Buffalo starters. Very, very frustrating for so many Buffalo Bills fans to see that beatdown at HOME in a playoff game. Sort of reminiscent of that 41-10 Colts loss at home last season in which the team had no answer on offense or defense. That 2021 Colts game was a team failure and so was this Bengal game. Stuff happens...no Buffalo fan, player, coach, owner is happy about it! Bills fans have their pitchforks and torches out ready to burn down everything...which helps nothing! This franchise has the very best players, coaching staff, GM that I've seen in my lifetime! This team wasn't built on back to back 2-14 seasons like the 90's teams were. No #1 draft pick overall in Bruce Smith to be had for this team. QB Jim Kelly was actually the second first round pick as TE Tony Hunter was the first, first round pick that year. My point here is that while I'm not happy with the current Buffalo DC and scheme. Hiring someone new might disrupt the entire scheme forcing the team to start drafting different players to fit any new scheme. (remember Wrex Ryan who ruined the leagues #1 pass rush?) Besides, who is out there to hire that would be a better fit then the guy who had the #1 overall defense last season and a top 5 defense this season despite all the adversity? Like Bills GM Brandon Beane fixing that 2021 defense and making them better against the run for 2022. I'm trusting that he and McD will find a way to upgrade to defense to contend with Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes and their respective teams. (also the Dolphins) Upgrading that Buffalo offensive line and finding a stout run game to work when the QB is having an off day. Beane has his work cut out for him this offseason. P.S. My hope is that somehow Beane finds a way to get several pass rushers for the 2023 defense so that in the next playoffs... Mahomes is running like a chicken with his head cut off like he was against the Bucs in which the SB the Chiefs lost. Or the pressure that Burrow was under, 7x sacks by the Rams in the Bengals SB loss. The Buffalo Bills losing Von Miller to a season ending injury basically ended their season too. Relax guys!

And who masterfully traded up to the #7 spot in the 2018 draft to draft Josh Allen? The very best player in the 2018 NFL draft! And who masterfully traded away a #1 pick to obtain WR Stephon Diggs... when the Vikings said they wouldn't trade him? This franchise had the #1 overall defense last season and its been pretty darn good since McD got to Buffalo. #2 in points allowed in 2019, #3 in yards allowed. #2 in points allowed, #6 in yards allowed this season... even with all the adversity! Exactly how many teams have managed to beat the KC Chiefs the last few years? The very best team in the NFL the last few seasons. You know, the team that won the SB in 2019, that went back to the SB in 2020 and is again in the SB this season! Yeah, that's right Buffalo beat them 2x in the regular season in 2021, 2022. This HC went to the playoffs with TYROD TAYLOR at QB! Anyone else do that with that QB? So, don't tell me that this would be a 7-10 team without Josh Allen! YES, they lean and depend on him more than they should. Former Bills OC Brian Daboll put a saddle on Josh and rode him to being the New HC of the NY Giants. Looks like new Buffalo OC Ken Dorsey is attempting to do the very same thing. Any team going 13-3 with all the adversity this team faced this season was doing something right. The #2 offense in points scored, the #2 offense in yards...that is better than most years with Daboll and equaled his best season as Buffalo OC in 2020. The defense #2 in points allowed, #6 in yards allowed after so many devastating injuries to the starters would decimate other teams. Yes, the 2022 Buffalo Bills were SMOKED by the Cincinnati Bengals 27-10 in a playoff game IN Buffalo. Trust me, I'm not at all happy about it either! the Bengals also knocked off the KC Chiefs in their home in the AFC Championship game last season to go to the SB. Lost this season to the Chiefs in the Championship game. This happens to be super ELITE talented teams that the Buffalo Bills have faced in the playoffs, (save Texans with Watson in 2019). KC in 2020, KC in 2021, Cincy in 2022. What team built their SB team in half the time as the Chiefs took 7 years under Reid to get to the big dance. The Bengals went 2-14 in 2019 under new HC Zac Taylor. They went 4-11 in 2020 and drafted Joe Burrow and Tee Higgins #1 overall, #33. Then drafted Ja'Marr Chase in 2021. So they went to the SB in four years under Taylor because of their previous crappy season records. Buffalo managed to build their team drafting near last every year. The Bucs did it with the GOAT in 2020 and what happened this season 8-9? The Rams went to the SB in McVay's 2nd year and won the SB in McVay's 5th season by going all out for talent as they gave up a #2 pick to Denver for Von Miller. Buffalo gave up no draft picks for him. Philly had just won a SB in 2017 and had been in the playoffs recently 2018, 2019, 2021 and pulled a Rams this season by going after some highly touted veterans, 13 free agents signed from other teams including Suh, Reddick. In 2022, My take is the Buffalo Bills desperately needed that bye week badly and didn't get it. They were emotionally spent after seeing a fellow player fall on the field from a heart attack (among other things). The Bengals showed the Bills their flaws in being dominated on both sides of the line along with little or no pass rush. Josh had no time to throw and with no run game or attempt to build a run attack it put everything on Josh. Let's face it, the Bengals out played and out coached the Buffalo Bills this game. For myself, I have faith that this GM, HC with figure things out for the 2023 season, get the coaches, players focused and on the right track for a SB run.

Bills fans have have recently shown me that most have no patience for building a SB team. Todays society wants instant gratification...like a drive up window type service. They see other teams like the Rams & Bucs build it quick and win it all and want the same. They are anomalies and not the norm! THE most successful NFL franchise the last 15-20 years has been our hated enemy the New England Patriots. The current had the NFLs best HC and HAD the NFL's GOAT at QB. Since losing Brady they haven't won much since and he won a SB with the Bucs. Second best team has been the Kansas City Chiefs, 162 games, 117 wins, 45 losses. Their HC Andy Reid had built a playoff team in his first season going from a 2-14 season without to an 11-5 with. Let's face it, the man knew who to hire as his assistant coaches and how to build a disciplined team. He managed that with QB Alex Smith.(who Buffalo also went after at the time). Reid realized that Smith was just a game manager and wasn't going to get him to the big dance. Hence he traded up with Buffalo to get Patrick Mahomes, a player that wasn't graded very highly and was from an "air raid" scheme. Mahomes was like 4th rated behind Trubisky, Kizer, Watson. You know who was rated 6th, Nathan Peterman. It took SEVEN years for Reid to take his KC Chiefs to the SB and this was with an experienced HC who was a 14 year winning HC with the Philadelphia Eagles. In which it took him SIX years to get his Eagles into a SB with McNabb at QB... they lost to NE 21-24 in 2004. (You know who his ST's coach was that season?) Reid is basically an offensive genius with currently one of the best young QB's in the league. It takes time and some good fortune to get a team to the SB. Bills fans forget that this is Brandon Beane's, McD's first time at GM, HC and they are still learning as they go. Hopefully now they have learned that they need a much, much better offensive line and a better pass rush. More than one top pass rusher too. (Probably should have found a way to keep Jerry Hughes) I have faith that these men can get the job done for the Buffalo Bills. 13-3 with all the freakin adversity that this team faced this season is nothing short of brilliant IMHO. Injuries, sickness, snowstorms, blizzards a home game in a different city. A HEART ATTACK on the field during a game and the HC knew the right thing to do. These are some great men this franchise has running it and Bills fans should just stop with all this negative crap!

I honestly can't stand this bend but don't break defense. But, what was the guy supposed to do against a top flight offense with little or no pass rush...no matter how much you rotate the players. The secondary was also weak without Hyde and so many subs in at CB, safety. Starting a rookie CB and an injured Safety in Poyer. Injuries and inexperience killed this defense this season...and coaching. Who would have thought that ken Dorsey would end up running the ball less than Daboll...who some of us were complaining in previous years that he didn't run enough and change was needed. I just don't get why any OC who sees that his QB isn't getting it done at the time refuses to change things up to help out the QB. It's like Daboll never left and we saw the 2018 version all over again. Only 19 rushes for 64 yards against Cincy and Josh had 8 of those. So, the Bills RBs saw 11 rush attempts all game. Singletary was getting 2.5 yards before contact and Cook 1.6...which means the Buffalo O line was getting owned. Still, end arounds, misdirection, screens, toss sweeps to make those D linemen run sideline to sideline to wear them out. Just keep throwing, just keep throwing...and keep the pressure on the QB.

According to PFF, the Bills ended up having the 23rd best offensive line in the NFL last season. Not the best finish, and it’s not the best look considering the year prior. Buffalo dropped two spots from their final rating at No. 21 at the end of the 2021 season. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/02/pro-football-focus-buffalo-bills-offensive-line-rankings-dion-dawkins-mitch-morse/ The counter argument is that this move would leave the right guard spot open next to another struggling offensive lineman in second-year right tackle Spencer Brown. Brown was neck-and-neck with Saffold in pressures allowed in 2022 (Brown had 29) and gave up a whopping nine quarterback hits — most on the team by over double, despite only playing in 14 games. Putting a new face next to him in what will be a pivotal year might not be the best thing for his development. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2023/2/2/23582156/buffalo-bills-2023-offseason-team-needs-guard-rodger-saffold-ryan-bates The Bills need to go all out in rebuilding that O line...whatever it takes!

Some Bills fans complaining about not reaching the SB. Yet, this team just went went 13-3 this season!! In McD's six seasons as Buffalo Bills HC this team has been to the playoffs 5 of those 6 years. (Once with Tyrod Taylor at QB!) 9-7, 6-10, 13-3, 11-6, 13-3. McD is considered one of the best head coaches in the NFL. Bills GM Brandon Beane is considered by some to be the very best of the best in NFL GM's. Yet, I read over and over how some Bills fans want them both gone or replaced? By who? Chiefs HC Andy Reid is the biggest reason the Chiefs seem to always have a shot. In the ten years he has been there they have never had a losing season and have been in the playoffs nine of those ten seasons. Five of those seasons were with Alex Smith at QB. Reid is an offensive genius, won a SB and yet was smoked in the next SB by a swarming Buc's defense. With the Chiefs, the players change and the winning continues. Buffalo HC seems to be locked into Leslie Frazier's bend but don't break defense. Somehow whomever this team hires as an OC can't seem to build a decent ground game without involving the QB as the leading rusher. So, I'm not happy with either of the Buffalo Bills coordinators at this point. Although, let's look at what the offenses / defenses have looked like the last few seasons. 2023, record 13-3 AFC East Champs 2023, offense #2 in points for, #2 in yards. 8th in passing attempts, 7th in passing yards, #2 in passing TDs. #15th in rush attempts,7th in rush yards, 15th in rush TDs. 2023, defense #2 in points allowed, #6 in yards allowed. 2022 record 11-6 AFC East Champs 2022, offense #3 in points, #5 in yards. QB Josh Allen playing perfect games in the playoffs! 2022, defense #1 in points allowed, #1 in yards allowed. 2021 record 13-3 AFC East Champs 2020, offense #2 in points, #2 in yards. 2020, defense #16 in points allowed, #14 in yards allowed 2019 record 10-6 AFC East Champs 2019, offense #23 in points, #24 in yards 2019, defense #2 in points allowed, #4 in yards allowed Considering the trials this team endured this season. So many injuries to key players on defense and offense. Josh with a bad elbow. The deadly Blizzard that caused so many problems besides needing to play a home game at Detroit. Cardiac arrest on the field where a Buffalo player nearly died. The Bills losing their star pass rusher for the season. Yeah, i can see where the emotions were drained at the end of the season. Amazing stuff dealing with all that and more. Now, consider that Andy Reid didn't get his Chiefs to the SB until his 7th season. I'd say Bills fans should give these Buffalo Bills coaches / GM some more time to do their jobs. I kind of think that they feel the losses just as badly as Bills fans do and perhaps even more because they see it in the players faces. After nearly two decades of being of missing the playoffs and being at the bottom or near last in the division... I know I'm ready to sit back and let Beane do his magic with the draft and free agency. Let McD get his team ready for 2023. All I want for the new season is a better offensive line, an actual dominant run game like the 49ers, Eagles have. If I could do one thing...it might be to hire ex Ravens OC Greg Roman to be the new Buffalo run game coordinator to help build that O line and run game. Or someone else to help keep Josh in the pocket and let the RBs take the pounding. (yea, I know Josh hurt his elbow in the pocket) So, build him a better pocket! JMHO

The Bills were outcoached and out played by the Bengals at HOME in their last game. No excuses, 27-10 was a beatdown by a team that showed big holes in the Bills O line, D line and secondary. The team was "Gassed"...for the most important home game in years? Buffalo with almost no run game, 11 rushes for 38 yards by Bills RB's. Josh had 8 for 26 with a total for 19 rushes for 64 yards. A 3.4 YPC AVG. Far, far too much pressure on the Buffalo QB to make the offense work. Look at Tom Brady (the GOAT) in his last game with little or no run game and a crappy O line...look familiar? Even his super fast release didn't save him. Now, the Dolphins got better with their new DC hire. The Patriots got better with their new OC hire. The Jets might have gotten worse with their new OC hire...unless it draws Aaron Rodgers to them. All three division rivals have lesser QB's ATM. Now these teams have learned that the more pressure on Allen while containing him is their way to beat Buffalo. The Dolphins almost beat Buffalo with a backup to the backup to the backup QB. 31-34 with 7th round pick Skylar Thompson. Both the Eagles and 49ers showed that you can win with a tough nosed run game and defense as long as you have a somewhat decent QB. Buffalo has IMO the very best QB in the league and yet demand from him more then he can handle at times. We all saw what Josh can do at the end of 2022 with a somewhat decent run attack and O line protecting him, unstoppable! Beane needs to go all out to building that Buffalo offensive line into a top unit. Suddenly they might find that the WR's, TE's, RB's on the roster are good enough. Give the best QB in the league better protection and build a decent ground game so he doesn't need to carry the team all the time. Gonna be a long season if Buffalo doesn't greatly upgrade that line.

The AFC has the QBs...the NFC has the defenses and run games. My money would be on the NFC team

wow what a run by CMC

This! Look at Tom Brady (you know, the goat!) this season with no run game and a bad O line...look familiar? Look at Josh Allen last season when the line played so much better and in fact was so good that Beane kept a lot of those line players. Now, they regressed! Josh was the leading rusher (again) in that game and without his yards the Buffalo RBs had only 11 carries for 38 yards! Total 19 rushes for 64 yards. Also, Josh was under heavy pass rush pressure all game long. Go back to last years playoff run where the O line played much better and the Bills actually had a run game, Josh was basically unstoppable. Buffalo needs to rebuild that O line above all else! JMHO

Again, I have no idea what you are taking about? This years Buffalo Bills went 14-4. If anything they were outcoached on both sides of the ball against Cincy. One guy is a rookie and the other caused the 13 seconds. The GM doesn't coach the team. This team has enough talent to get to and win a SB, IMHO.

That guy won ONE SB in 15 years in NO and had a future HoF QB in Drew Brees the entire time. 7 playoff losses, 5 losing seasons. McD is better...he went to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor at QB. The Bills were outcoached against the Bengals on both sides of the ball. One guy is a rookie and the other caused the 13 seconds. The Buffalo Bills currently have one of the very best HC's in the league. Not many could have overcome the adversity this team has endured the last few months. Heart attack on the field. Snow storm that causes the team to play a home game in a different city. The players needed to be dug out to even get to the airport. Snow so bad they couldn't return home. Injuries to so many players this season. McD should be coach of the year!

Brees was about the most accurate passing QBs ever! He spent 5 seasons in San Diego and took them to an 11-4 record in 2004. 10-6 in 2006. Passed for over 3000 yards in 3 of his 5 years at SD. The Chargers were a run first team under Marty Schottenheimer back then. LT! Ex Buffalo Bills director of pro personnel, AJ Smith drafted Eli Manning who refused to play in SD so they traded with the NY Giants for Phillip Rivers who they drafted #1. AJ Smith wanted Rivers to be the starting QB. Besides, Brees suffered a serious shoulder injury. Both NO and Miami were interested. NO gave Brees 10 mill guaranteed, a 6 year 60 million dollar deal. Dolphins HC was Nick Saban who went on to say he really, really regretted choosing Daunte Culpepper over Brees. As Bills fan I'm extremely happy Brees hurt his shoulder and he did not become a Miami Dolphin. I put Sean Payton in the Mike Tomlin category in that he was always in the playoffs with Big Ben at QB. Whatever team he chooses will need to have a top QB. Lastly, You know who else didn't have top arm strength and was also very, very accurate. Yea, Joe Montana.

Nothing you said validates anything! Are you really a Bills fan? Brandon Beane is considered one of the very best GM's in the league! Actually, best of the best. https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-gm-brandon-beane-rank-best Von Miller, 7 of the 8 draft picks this season played at some point. Gabe Davis was a 4th, Bass was a 6th and so on. The team is loaded with talent. Coaching matters! Buffalo was outcoached on both sides of the ball. One guy is a rookie. Speaking of trash...

What is with Bills fans today? Sean Payton was the HC of the NO Saints for 15 seasons. Won ONE SB in all that time with future HoF QB Drew Brees at QB. Out of the 15 seasons went to the playoffs 9 times and lost Conf, WC, Div, Div, Div, Conf, WC, Div. He had 5 losing season in that time too. I don't see a great savior! No way is he worth a #1 pick and 20 mill per. Not to this team as they already have a better HC.

Building a super bowl team doesn't usually happen over night especially when the team has been in mediocrity for 20 years. Never bad enough to get a top 5 pick and when they trade up for one... they choose a paper WR who looks at the field and gets an injury. The list of guys who were drafted that year in the first round... good lord 17 first round picks ended up being better picks. Remember that crappy GM? Brandon Beane has been a godsend for Buffalo and so has McD. The guy who went to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor at QB. I'm not happy either...I just realize that replacing Beane and McD would be a whole lot more difficult than just wishing it. How many teams went 14-4 this season? There would be about a 2 second delay in firing one of those two guys and them being instantly rehired. As for the HC either Denver, Carolina, Houston, Arizona, Indy.

What are you talking about? Beane traded away RB Moss to a guy who ran back two kickoffs for two TD's in one game. Look again at this years draft class. Coaching lost this game, one is a rookie play caller. The only thing I have to say about the coaching staff. The 49ers showed Buffalo how to beat the Dolphins and yet almost lost to the 3rd string backup QB because they have to do things their way.

Another year? Are you serious? 14-4 in 2022! You don't remember what it was like being a Buffalo fan previous to McD, Beane? These are the best two since Marv and Polian. Let's not forget that those Bills were horrid previous to being hired and thus were able to draft HoFers Bruce Smith, Jim Kelly among others. Also, as good at that K-gun offense was, they ran the ball with Thurman more then they passed most of those glory years. This game showed the flaws, lousy Bflo O line and hardly any run game...Josh Allen the leading rusher...again! Allen trying to press all game. (Bills D line got no pressure despite 3 lost starters.) Allen only sacked once and yet hit 8 times and countless pressures. Lastly, OC Ken Dorsey is a rookie this year. Recall what Daboll looked like his first season in Buffalo?

I also hope so! There has only been one perfect team the entire history of the NFL, 72 Dolphins. The 85 Bears lost to Miami in that season. The 2000 Ravens lost to Miami, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Washington. This season the 49ers also lost to crappy Atlanta & Denver, also KC. It's not what teams do at the start of the season...it's how it ends! Anyway, look how the goat QB ended his season. No matter how great a QB is...they need a strong supporting cast. Buffalo needs a strong run game, no question.

It's a team game and both lines were manhandled... Josh Allen the leading rusher...again!

This! The crying and whining from Bills fans is almost getting to biblical proportions. Overreactions while not thinking clearly. They seem to forget WRex Ryan, Doug Maroon, Chan Gaily, Skeletor and so many others since Marv...so many coaches, QBs, draft picks...and top ten draft picks that went nowhere! 20 years man, 20 years! Alas, there is a real reason as to why Daboll is now a HC and Frazier is not. Did he even get any interviews? Coaching does matter! OTOH, the Bills have a rookie OC. Can anyone recall how Daboll looked his first season in Buffalo? Lastly, I look at the 49ers with envious eyes...their run game, defense that help a rookie QB look so good.

Awesome news, great stuff!

As much as I would love the Buffalo Bills to field the NFLs best offensive line. Having Josh Allen at QB has proven that hasn't been a necessity. I even dislike mentioning it...however, age, injuries often catch up with all elite athletes...eventually. I agree that the Buffalo Bills should be building the very best offensive line this offseason just to prepare for that eventuality. Build that run game to control the game/clock...which will simply allow Josh Allen to be more dominant with the passing game. Last season's playoff push has shown what Josh Allen can do when given time in the pocket to throw...unstoppable! It was that "prevent" defense that killed them in KC. Balance though...Defense does win Championships. Of the 110 teams to reach the SB, 88 of them fielded a top 10 in scoring. Of the 55 SB champs, 48 had a top 10 scoring defense.

Surprising how many Buffalo receivers can't catch from such a noodle armed QB... Yet, Buffalo #1 with 25, Miami #2 with 25, Tampa Bay with 25. Green Bay with 25, Jacksonville with 24. WHAT! The KC Chiefs with 23 drops! http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232 * Gabe Davis, 71 targets, 38 rec. a 53.5 catch percentage. Both Diggs, Davis have dropped 6 passes each this season