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As a Canadian who has had season tickets since 2004 I hope the Bills give us some options. We'll know in the next few weeks if the border closure is extended past July 21st, if it is we're definitely out for the pre-season games. I'm certain they are working on a plan. They haven't had the season ticket holder early seat sale for remaining tickets. They haven't even announced a date. My rep said they don't want to sell the seats, then immediately need to refund them (that chat was about 6 weeks ago)

The border closure is extended to July 21st. We're only 2 more extensions* away from this being a no decision for us Canadian STH as we won't be able to cross. *We're only 1 extension away from missing the first home pre-season game

Taken from the dataisbeautiful sub on reddit.I believe it shows 2 regions decreasing in cases and 2 regions increasing (using key on the left). Accurate as of June 22nd. Reading graphs isn't a strong point of mine. [Edit: read it perfectly as far as I can tell. Point is showing that the overall US cases shape can obscure the actual pattern in different regions of the country, some falling, some rising - quickly. -Hap]

My buddy is a top audio mixer for live NHL broadcasts in Canada (Dome/Rogers/CBC). If he was to work in a hub city he would have to be in full isolation with the players. Once you enter you stay, if you leave you don't come back. It's not just isolated hotels, it isolated restaurants, food services, etc... If you have access to the players you are in the bubble. They've spent the down time working on a plan to do everything remotely, so some support staff can have a life outside of the sport. These sports reach so far beyond just the players, there's a hell of a lot of people that would have to be in isolation to make the NFL work inside a bubble.

We used to have to stand and listen to the anthem before movies. Times change.

No kidding. National anthems belong at international sporting events (The World Cup) and not in domestic sports. They should not be played before Bills games. People who are upset by the kneeling better get ready for the inevitable fans sitting down in the stands during the anthem.

The NFL had an agreement to show games at movie theatres here (Canada) for the last few years So it's not unheard of, and if we're not able to be in the stands I suspect the NFL will be open to ideas that generate revenue and give them fan footage to use during broadcasts

A friend of mine built a 2 seater in his backyard (Murphy Rebel?) and before the engine, seats, etc went in I could lift it with one hand*. I was amazed at how light it was. *Might have been 2 hands... but I could lift it pretty easy

I have seasons and I grabbed a couple of extras for the Chiefs game for family. From the Bills via Ticketmaster (face value). I asked my rep why tickets were available from the Bills via Ticketmaster before the season ticket holder pre-sale and they said they released a few but held most of the extras back for the pre-sale (probably in July)

The bottom of the schedule announcement email says that This seems a lot later than normal, is it?

That's a big part of the day for sure, but it's not the only part for me. I still want to see the game live if I can. I've had seasons from 2004 so I don't think I'd make the first cut of seniority, but I'd find it easier to miss out to someone who has had tickets longer than me.

If the Bills had to limit capacity to 20K I hope they start with the 20K who have had seasons tickets the longest. Add a rule that the account holder must be one of the people using the tickets and check ID at the gate. That shouldn't add much time to entry if only 20K were going. Offer that deal to the oldest 20K accounts and then see how many opt in. People who have stuck with the team the longest should have first dibs over someone who picked up seasons recently. A split might work too, 15K based on seniority 5K based on a lottery. Not much point selling individual games at this point.

Some say now dead, some say vegetative, any way you slice it he ain't doing so hot https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1273869/kim-jong-un-dead-north-korea-kim-jong-un-health-latest-kim-jong-un-dead-reports

Pick is in - Washington didn't mess around - Thank you Washington

Do the Bengals know they're on the clock?

Bet he's still on dial up

Closed until at least the end of May

This vegas oddsmaker figured out the odds of someone getting Covid-19 at a sporting event in various places in North America 'IF' current social distancing stays in place. Looking at crowds around 20,000 he figured for Vancouver, Montreal, and Toronto the odds would be up to 13.82% June 1, 23.04% June 15, and 2.12% July 1st The US numbers have a greater range Yankee stadium on July 1st would be down to 0.02% Miami would be way up at 13% on July 1st Be real interesting to see how things play out in Florida with the rolled out return to normal. "“So it’s: Hold off, because if we started early and the cases ramp back up again, we’d potentially cause a second peak and the seasons would be done, and then potentially the 2020-21 seasons are in jeopardy, too.” https://www.thestar.com/sports/2020/04/17/the-odds-of-professional-sports-returning-before-july-arent-good-if-theyre-paying-attention-to-the-odds.html?fbclid=IwAR0soG2_SPr1vD_U9R2OvX3ZP6QkTCjdXRDGHiIRzQttI_c0VyoK9RF9Rz8

Vegas odds on catching Covid-19 at a sporting event https://www.thestar.com/sports/2020/04/17/the-odds-of-professional-sports-returning-before-july-arent-good-if-theyre-paying-attention-to-the-odds.html "July 1 might be the safest, earliest date for Canadians to attend games, while some jurisdictions in the United States might need to wait even later." "The numbers in the U.S. aren’t as promising as they are here." “Canada is in much better shape than many of the states,” McEwan said. “Some are better than others.” “The message is hold off,” said Matt McEwan, the editor in chief of Sports Betting Dime’s website and the mathematician behind the projections. “Give it time. It doesn’t need that much more time ... Based on everything we’re doing right now, the social distancing and quarantining and self-isolation, if we continue doing this and we continue doing what the medical professionals are saying, July 1 looks very reasonable." “So it’s hold off, because if we started early, and the cases ramp back up again, we’d potentially cause a second peak, and the seasons would be done, and then potentially the 2020-21 seasons are in jeopardy, too.”

I pay in 4 instalments. The Bills didn't take the second instalment, they sent out an email saying they were pushing payments back. Are you on the 4 or 10(?) payment plan?

Is this new or already responded to theory? Not yet peer reviewed https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/coronavirus-outbreak-started-september-british-21882200 "Researchers from the University of Cambridge have investigated the virus’ origin to calculate the likely date of the initial outbreak. Their findings indicate that the outbreak in Wuhan occurred between September 13 and December 7. Peter Forster, who led the study, said: “The virus may have mutated into its final ‘human-efficient’ form months ago, but stayed inside a bat or other animal or even human for several months without infecting other individuals. “Then, it started infecting and spreading among humans between September 13 and December 7.” "In the study, which is yet to be peer-reviewed, the researchers analysed coronavirus strains using a mathematical algorithm. While the virus originated in bats, the scientists found hundreds of mutations between the original Sars-CoV-2 and the one first found in Wuhan. Typically, a coronavirus usually acquires one mutation per month." "According to the researchers, this indicates that the virus may have quietly been spreading in animals and humans for years, before reaching the form we see today. Dr Forster said: “If I am pressed for an answer, I would say the original spread started more likely in southern China than in Wuhan. “But proof can only come from analysing more bats, possibly other potential host animals, and preserved tissue samples in Chinese hospitals stored between September and December. “This kind of research project would help us understand how the transmission happened, and help us prevent similar instances in the future.”

Somewhere between "not at all" and "we're all gonna die" If I'm at a tailgate and seeing people I've been seeing for 17 years my old habits will click in without thinking about.

The problem with lifting for people like me who don't find it interesting is that it is usually not presented well. Just a bunch of guys lifting weight. On the other hand I watched a show about a group of guys trying to carry some stones across a bridge in Scotland and it was interesting, but only because they got into the history and how few people had been able to carry the stones across the bridge. So by the time the lifting happened there was a chance to buy into the storyline.

I'm with you. I'm 100% committed to this shutdown, but there's no way I'm doing it again. I think they play it as scheduled, shortened season if necessary.

Who holds the hammer for declaring the season will start? Goodell and the owners or the players union? Does the fact that a deal is done mean the players have to go back if the league says they are playing or will the union have a say in things?