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27 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:
The defense did enough to win every game this season except for the Patriots' game (and maybe the Eagles' game now).
The inconsistency (consistency?) was only on offense, but that was very clearly because of the gross incompetence of the OC, now gone.
They are clearly good enough, one of the top, most dynamic teams in the NFL. But that incompetent yahoo set them so far back in the win column that there is no margin for error now--and the loss last week may have been enough to seal their fate. They should sue him for malpractice--love to see that moron on the witness stand, given game scenarios and such and listen to his answers.
But I still think they can get in to the playoffs. If they do, watch out...
Huh??????? Mac Jones, 500 yards vs. Jax, Philly, 12 men Denver..... The offense presses because they know the Defence can't be trusted.
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10 minutes ago, Gregg said:
This thread will die when the Bills are 6-7 a week from Sunday.
You got to believe. That's whats so infuriating.
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7 hours ago, Nihilarian said:
McD stated that they practiced that play 3x that week and the 12 guy out there was Leonard Floyd...
The thing is, shouldn't have somebody on special teams been counting the players on the field...you know... like they do every stinking special teams play. So, my thoughts are the special teams coach is mostly at fault here. Yes, the buck stops with the HC. Just like it did with the offense before he fired the OC.
Is firing McD going to end all the bad luck this franchise endures? OR, will it send it into a downward spiral like so many teams do when they fire a good HC and attempt to find a top replacement.
Have someone in mind?
Practiced 3x and still got it wrong? Inexcusable
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The bills ranked 31st 29th and 24th in offense the first three years under McD please don't pretend he was any help to the offense. By the way the year before they were in the top half of the league and Tyrod looked serviceable.
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1 hour ago, Mister Defense said:
I did not look back at the game summaries and will now.
But I don't recall thinking the defense falling apart on vital drives like they have too often this year. I had thought that the Minnesota loss was more the result of some bad/fluke plays by the offense, and in the Arizona game it was the hail Mary play that was the major breakdown. That kind of long run by Cook was not common against Frazier's defenses and those things happen in NFL games And for the Bills not a pattern, a fluke, one big play
In any case, this D played a superb first half, on the road, against the best team in the league.So? They allowed 30 points after the first half. Means very little when you lose.
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1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:
I agree. It's one thing if the Bills had a solid, veteran QB like Alex Smith t play the role they apparently wanted McCarron or, gulp, Peterman to fill. But given Allen's play in 2018 surrounded by so little talent on the offensive side of the ball it was clear as day that Allen should have been named the starter at the beginning of training camp.
Think about what that fool McD tried to do here. He didn't want to hand Allen the job (we had a process don't you now) so he created a fake competition between Allen & Peterman which he allowed Peterman to win. I guess McD wast trying to show that high 1st round pick Allen that you earn the job not have it handed to you. You know in the same way he showed Cook that if you fumble the ball you don't get back on the field for a few series. The problem was that Peterman wasn't some grizzled vet who knew how to play QB he was a SECOND YEAR player whose previous start had resulted in his throwing a record FIVE INT's in the first half. Yea this is the guy McD decided to start over his lottery #1 pick. Please.
That is why I have no trust in McD. Add to that complementary football, one of Allen's best assets, his running being taken away this year, and anything about the offense that comes out of his mouth.....
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12 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
And whose fault was it that McCarron didn't pan out? Down here in Cincy, Bengal fans were happy AJ was signed as they thought he deserved a chance to start somewhere. And the comments made by AJ and his Bengal teammates was that he was going to Buffalo to win the starting job not babysit a rookie 1st round pick. There was nothing about McCarrons age, NFL history or attitude that suggested he would be right for that role.
And as Mike Tyson famously said "everyone has a plan until they get hit in the mouth".
If as you say their plan was to "red shirt" Allen how did that go? Can we at least agree that their "plan" fell apart and it was Allen & DaBoll not Bean/McD who made lemonade out of a bunch of lemons?
Can we agree it was a stupid plan to begin with? What top 10 pick sits out the first year? Mahomes was the exception playing behind an accomplished qb for a playoff team.
5 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:I agree their plan fell apart, I don't think anyone has ever said anything different.
I won't agree that McD had nothing to do with the development plan for Allen...again read that article I shared about JP Losman and the quote where they were blitzing JP in his first practice like crazy...that was the former Assistant GM saying he was confused by the approach because it was not the right way to develop a rookie qb.
Everything they did as a team those first few years in practice once Allen was named the starter had a huge component of developing Josh Allen. McD was the architect of that...to say otherwise or to say McD didn't have a huge positive part in building the space and culture in which Allen could develop and formulating a plan in which his coordinator and position coach and the player himself could maximize that development is straight up ignorant and silly
32 games and not a 300 yard passing game. Name another quality qb that went that long in the last 20 years? 48 games McD went without a qb throwing for 300. That's unheard of today. Just to give context no one goes a full year. He went 3.
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4 hours ago, JohnNord said:
This list is inaccurate.2022: The Bills defense actually made the stop at the goal line against Minnesota. Josh fumbled the ball in the end zone and then threw an INT in the end zone to lose the game.
2021: The Bills held the ball last and botched the 4th and inches.
2019: The Bills offense was on the field at the end of the game and also had a chance to tie but Hauschka missed the FG.
The discussion here was about his defense on the final possession of games (inside 2 minutes). Not the possession before the final 2 minutes.
great example of moving the goal posts to confirm a bias.
The game was also over because the defense made a clutch stop…. Then Josh fumbled in the end zone.Funny how BT forgot that part 😂😂😂
How about never getting to the goal line and a 70 yard drive?
How about stopping a team in OT?
The excuses for the D never cease. When they get a lucky stop, they are praised to the heavens (int vs. KC & Indy).
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17 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:
The ONLY way McD is not the HC come next September is if Allen goes to Pegula after the season, and lays down the ultimatum….
him or ME!
Can hope. He's not helped him nearly enough.
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Bet two bad losses vs. KC and Dallas and boos in the stadium changes that.
Not that I want that.
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Never say never.
Funny that I still think they can win in spite of him.
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17 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:
The plan was always to sit Allen his first year, just like Mahommes sat, they didn't want him to play a single snap...Kolb getting injured and retiring really screwed up the plan and when Peterman flamed out miserably they didn't have a choice.
Stroud is a significantly more pro ready prospect who had received top level coaching in college and I would imagine high school...you're not making sense, and I mean that in a way that I want you to be making sense so we can have a meaningful conversation about this...lol, though with the Von news, my guess is this convo is going back burner big time
And that was absolutely the worst idea imo. KC was alteady a good playoff team with a good pro bowl qb (not Peterman).
They had no idea at the time that the Mahomes experiment would work.
We see what happens with rookies, got to let them learn by playing.
I can’t imagine how far back Allen would have been if he sat a year.
Again another indictment of McD.
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2 hours ago, HardyBoy said:
You mean the head coach that coordinates all the practice plans, and sets the expectations on the types of offensive formations they will highlight in a practice and coordinating with the defensive staff to make sure they are giving him the right looks defensively to reinforce the information he is learning from film and other preparation off the field
You guys sound super ignorant on what a head coach does...freaking Dunning Kruger convention
And Beasley was a huge signing, even at the time... he was the best slot receiver in football and was clearly being improperly utilized in Dallas...Brown turned out to be exactly the player they were hoping he would be...both of those signings were amazing at the time and looking back on it
Then he has failed miserably based on all the mistakes he makes game day.
He annointed Peterman the starting qb Allen's rookie season. If Peterwas just awful instead of unplayable how long would have Allen sat?
Btw I look at CJ Stroud and wonder just how much McD would have impeaded him if he was the coach.
I say if Allen was brought along like him he'd be further ahead.
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2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
Losman and Allen should not be named together as Allen is an exponentially better QB.
Say the Bills drafted Baker, Darnold or the Other Josh, today we would be speculating on who was going to replace the coach that replaced McD in 2020.
Meanwhile I suspect Allen on another team not named the Chargers would have a Super Bowl ring or two. Because the only other franchise in football that would have squandered Allen the way the Bills have so far wasted him would have been the Chargers. Because defensive minded head coaches in the current NFL can't get O lines, offensive skill players and QB's right. The Bills success has been in spite of McD and because Allen is really that good.
Regardless and we agree here, what drives me nuts is how the D has failed almost every time late game & OT along with McD's boneheaded decisions and miscues.
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2 hours ago, WinterSoldier17 said:
McDummy holds everyone around him accountable, EXCEPT HIMSELF. It’s uncanny, really, how McWimpy just continually throws everyone under the bus. He’s a quintessential narcissist.
We will never win a Super Bowl with this bumbling, halfwitted, weaselly head coach. He’s gone after this year.
I can’t wait until he’s gone.
Neither can I, but rather win the SB this year with him. Talk about a conundrum.
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47 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:
Wow, you must have special powers of insight into knowing how things went down based on having no actual information...super powers
Anyway, that's off topic, my comment was on how Allen would have been ruined by those coaching staffs, in the same way they ruined JP Losman.
Losman would have been a top level qb if he played today, I'm sure of that.
No better special powers then you. If Losman was so good another team could have resurrected him.
No head coach goes one year, much less 48 games (first 3 years) withoit a 300 yard passing game. McD accomplished this.
So yes i think Allen could be further ahead. Jmho
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9 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:
Losman was arguably in a similar sphere as Allen physically and mentally...he was ruined by poor coaching, but don't let that get in the way of your narrative.
The culture on those teams sucked, and they would have never developed Allen into what he is today.
I say they held Allen back the first two years and the first ten games this year.
I'll credit Daboll not McD..... Thank you
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21 minutes ago, mannc said:
The team McDermott took over was coached to a .500 record by Wrex Ryan. After adding Tre White, Dawkins and Milano, McDermott squeezed 1 more win out of them…what a legend.
And that is the narrative that McD fans ignore. Drives me crazy.
I don’t have any ill will towards McD, but the legend that some people attribute to him i don’t understand.
I just know he started Peterman and then doubled down the next year naming him the starter.
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On 11/28/2023 at 2:15 PM, Mark80 said:
I mean, you just doubled down on my point, thanks. Tyrod was horrible. Horrible every where he has played. Yet, somehow we made the playoffs with him and an "incredibly mediocre team." Tyrod's horrendous, "I'm afraid to throw to anyone who isn't open by 5 yards mentality" lost that game for us vs the Jags more than anything.
Actually he had very decent stats with Rex as HC, but that is conveniently forgotten here (as was the record) as he was hated and McD considered the saviour.
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9 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:
Just look at what is going on in Dallas right now... everyone is singing the praises of Mike McCarthy and Dak because they are beating up on bad teams. Soon they will be hitting the tough part of their schedule, and I bet in 3 weeks people will be once again jump right on McCarthy and Dak for their pitiful performances.
And was the same way when the Bills too beat up on bad teams (exception being the Bills are a better team).
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So what you're saying is that Frazier's D was good and McD's is terrible?
The prior year's sample size must be small as Bills seldom were in pressure packed 2 minute drills, however in OT they always allow a score, hail murray too and others.
Remember stop vs. KC too.
2021 they were awful in one score games too.
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8 hours ago, Nihilarian said:
Be careful what you wish for... as the next 5-10 Buffalo Bills head coaches might be what this franchise had in the 2000s. One of them might just ruin QB Josh Allen and then where would the team be?
Change isn't always for the better, simply ask the Raiders, Chargers, NY Jets, Browns, Titans, Colts, Giants, Commanders, Bears, Packers, Buccaneers, Panthers, Cardinals fans. How many first-round pick QBs did the Cleveland Browns ruin so far and have they ever even been to a SB?
Andrew Luck was a generational NFL QB who was drafted in 2012 and took his team to the playoffs right away. 2012-2013-2014 and was so badly injured by bad decisions from bad coaches that he decided to retire in 2018.
Right now this team is STILL on the verge of getting to a Super Bowl and all so many fans can do is rant about making changes to the HC.
An HC who is already second on the Buffalo Bills for most NFL wins.
What a bunch of bunk. He was slow in developing Allen imo, made bad decision after bad in game decisions, bad in one score games and vs. better teams his record is not great either (outside regular season vs. KC).
Welcome to the McD fan club.
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Absolutely right on. No playoffs and he needs to go. Hit the nail on the head it is all about Allen and Pegula needs to understand that.
Then there's just terrible in game decisions and a Defensive minded coach, whose defense can't make the stop when counted on.
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Nothing here. I think they were too easy on McD, but pretty much very little in it.
Who doesn't think this team is good enough to go 5-0 down the stretch?
in The Stadium Wall
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One of the rare times? How about you watch? Soft D, third down conversuons, no turnovers lead to an offence that pressed and lousy play calls.
Never call a defense allowing 500 yards good.
McD even made the silly comment about complimentary football.
All he does is defend his defense.