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16 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:
I think this bears repeating.
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On 11/30/2023 at 12:25 AM, Shaw66 said:
I don't know that we know for a fact that this is why Dorsey was gone, but it certainly makes sense. And, really, that play represents what looks like a problem, but it was only one problem. The thing that was troubling everyone, starting at game 5, was the disappearance of any offensive flow or effectiveness. The Bills are 6-6 because the offense substantially underperformed its potential. With decent offensive performance, like we've seen in the last two games, the Bills would be 9-3 or even 10-2.
It's really frustrating to have blown (absent a miracle) another opportunity.
How about McD not trot 12 players out on the last play vs. Denver (after 2 timeouts)? Yes McD's fault as he is the HC and this is the simplest of coaching plays.
You love to absolve him & the D. Yep the offence was underperforming (you don't think McD played a part?).
However the offense left the field the last time they had the ball with leads vs. Philly, Denver & NE. Tied with the Jets, needing a stop against one of the worst offenses in the NFL. Down by a TD or less with time on the clock and one stop from having the ball again vs. Cincy & Jax.
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1 hour ago, LarryMadman said:
Yup, this teams problem is coaching, too many receipts of bad coaching to ignore and blame something else.
Fix the coaching and the problems get fixed........hmmmmm........kind of like the offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, not so much as there is still a common denominator.
Just this year needed to turn around 1 game where the coaching failed them. Let's choose the simplest 12 men. How is not McD and the coaching 100% to blame!!!!! The Bills are 7-5 and some wiggle room.
Now others will say 50/50 hindsight at the plethora of other examples, but again, do one thing right. There, I'll go for more low-hanging fruit.... Don't let Mac Jones drive 75 yards for a TD.
8-4 and battling for the #1 seed.
Name me one good call McD made this year that was the difference between a win and a loss?
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37 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:
Actually, I mentioned 'coaching mistakes' but I guess I could have named him.
And as I've said elsewhere, McD is the head coach. Josh's mistakes are his mistakes. Dorsey's mistakes are his mistakes. Any mistake by a player or subordinate coach goes back to McD.So, to boil it down, there are two main culprits in this year's story: Beane for not building a better roster and McD for not doing more with it.
But I also acknowledge the fact that the Bills have been better under Beane/McD than they've been under other GM/HC combos. Still, this has not been a good year and they both need to share the blame.
Yes Allen's mistakes maybe primarily on him, but not always. When sitting on the sidelines for 7 minutes, and watching third downs converted and a score, then back on the field and calls you aren't 100% on board with, maybe you're pressing? A wrong route, bad call, told not to run and stay in the pocket.....
Beane making trades, signings or draft choice based on the HC's wishes?
Dorsey didn't review or discuss the game plan with McD? Complementary football I read as "let the D rest and keep them off the field". Vs. Cincy they carved them up the first drive and instead of the quick paced O, slowed down and then went 3 & out. The D was gassed allowing 14 points the first two Cincy drives and McD wanted rest for them. Pretty sure McD said something to that affect.
The team is better due to Allen. I'll die on that hill.🤣
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15 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
It's obvious to anyone that has their eyes open and is being objective.
Any unsubstantiated narratives, which is most of them, to the contrary are quickly falling by the wayside.
And let's suppose for a second that we do manage to go 4-1 or 5-0 and slink into the playoffs as the 7th seed, maybe 6th, what on earth are the odds that we can win four straight games with him at the helm against a field of coaches that all but categorically if not categorically are better than he is. The only way would be on the strength of talent, and we don't have enough edge to overcome that for 8 or 9 straight games.
Because I'm a Bills fan and regardless of all his deficiencies and blunders, I want the Bills to win the SB.
Now you can go through my 4000+ posts and not once have I said the Bills can't win a SB with McD. I think they can in spite of him.😜
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16 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
At the end of the day, McDoesn'tKnow has pawned off all kinds of stuff onto his staff.
That Peterman move, even amongst his own staff, was not endorsed by anyone but him.
Everything else he's explained away by muttering "Trust The Process."
He's his own worst enemy and that will continue to play out as long as he's here, unless he gives up a good amount of control of both sides of the ball to others, but it's not very likely that his prized former all-mediocre Carolina staff has anyone on it that is capable of doing that to the extents necessary. ... Brady pending given the unknowns there, but they are unknowns. Two games in hype mode is hardly a pattern there. So we'll see, we're all hopeful.
Even if he finds those people, his game management skills, which are key HC traits for championship coaches, are notably subpar.
Any time that you draft a QB 7th overall in trade-up fashion, you start him, unless it's detrimental to him, which it wasn't.
Let's not forget that fan and media heat was already beginning to mount, which means that McD was already, or likely was focusing on saving his bacon. After our 2019 season there was already a growing sentiment that McDoesn'tKnow wasn't right for the job.
It was only after Allen took off, which I attribute to Allen and his comfort with the level of play in the NFL along with his attitude, that things began to change.
So it was the play of our QB that saved McDoesen'tKnow. So how is it that given what we know about him and his offensive "prowess" there, coupled with his own statements as to not having a clue in essence, that he's the one responsible for how good this team has been since then?
From him we get "Process," "winning culture," as if winning games as a direct result of QB play is going to create a losing culture or even an apathetic culture somewhere, other ill-defined soft accolades that don't translate to anything concrete in the winning dept., and nothing but galactically stupid game-day decision-making, horrible use of timeouts at time, strategies from the '90s, and other things that have actually prevented us from reaching the ultimate prize after the players sealed it, most notably "13 Seconds," which in and of itself clawed defeat from the throne of victory.
Why any of that is going to change after nearly a decade remains an unsolveable mystery.
And don't forget that somehow McD took the #16 Offence in 2016 to one of the bottom feeders his first three years and went his first 48 games without having a qb throw for 300 yards, which in the modern era is a record that will never be touched. Tells you again what he thinks of the Offense.
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25 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
noui itsdeosnt.
No it doesn't. All thumbs😉
27 minutes ago, PBF81 said:Clinical level?
When's the last time he was mentioned? Hyperbole much.
So you don't think that it's relevant that McD was the only person in the entire world at that time, that supported Nathan Peterman, because he saw something in him, while sitting a 7th overall draft pick?
You don't think that there's anything related there in terms of his viewing our offense, that might lend at least a smidgen of explanation as to the woes of our team?
... please don't validate that.I said it over and over that Allen should have started day one or been at worst groomed by a seasoned vet (i.e. like Fitz). The worst was seeing McD doubling down on Peterman.
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52 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
Your obsession with Nathan Peterman is at a clinical level. Just let the man go into the abyss.
No it doesn't. The fact he thought Nathan Peterman was a starting NFL qb says a lot about McD and how heblpoks at the offense and the qb position
50 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:I think the disappointment this year has been a team effort.
Beane has not given McD a SB calibre roster. Injuries have hurt us. Josh went through a slump. Dorsey got stale as an OC. There have been other coaching mistakes. Player mistakes (drops, missed assignments, etc.) seem to come at the worst times. Lady Luck hasn't been our friend.
If we were to take this same roster and coaching staff (i.e. without Dorsey) into 2024, I think it does much better assuming it stays healthy. But I'd love to see some positional upgrades.
What no mention of McD???? Really? He's the #1 reason the Bills are where they are.
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7 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:
I put our problems on playcalling. Mainly Dorsey making us far worse, and McD calling off-coverage every time we need to hold a lead.
We would be 10-2 or better otherwise.
Remember McD not wanting Allen to run either.
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Found this and some interesting stats.
https://www.nflpenalties.com/all-penalties.php?year=2023
Yes Josh Allen has 5 Roughing the Passer calls
Jax 15 Pass Interferences they've benefited from & only called once.
Buffalo Called 8 X's for DPI and had only 3 PI's called in their favour. Defensive Holding 4 calls against 5 on Bills receivers.....
KC's OL holds a lot 21 penalties, but no one holds them 5
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I'm sure McD watches this game and thinks "Who needs Allen" when third string scrubs can perform like that?
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1 hour ago, BillsBlue said:
I have an odd feeling we'll make it in but if we don't there's a whole ton of positives to be taken from this season.
- Kincaid is a true stud, he will be a game breaker for our offense next year no doubt.
- Bernard is a stud as well and a playmaker that this defense needs, he's better than Edmunds.
-Cook is a baller and will be even better next season!!
-Spencer Brown is a legit RT for the future!!
-Cyrus will be a monster next year as he was better than average this year as a rook.
-Shakir looks to be a playmaker and will be even better next year out of the slot(Beasely replacement finally).
-We now know Gabe is not it and can cut bate and draft a real #2/ eventual Diggs replacement.
-Ed Oliver is worth the contract and has finally got it all together.
There's a lot of positives that have come out of this frustrating season imo. I'm a glass half full guy!! Hats off to Beanes drafting!!! We're going to be okay we have a lot of young talent at our nucleus now 🦬
The only positive would be McD leaving as sorry missing the playoffs with Josh Allen is inexcusable and he's had his hands in every loss to date.
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2 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
Here's a follow-up question, which of the contending teams have better receivers than we do?
We have the best QB apart from KC, whose WRs blow.
It's gonna take 9 straight wins.
When's the last time that happened?
Can always dream!!!! And I think Allen is the equal of Mahomes (save McD).
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11 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:
wrong.
win all 4 conference games and lose to Dallas and prob get in as wild card, which would be fine.
Seems like the other wild card candidates are now cratering or have no QB and are set up to lose 2 or more down the stretch.
correct.
We love Mitch Trubisky, etc, but he can barely take the snap.
Browns are rolling through multiple backup QBs and lost to the freakin Rams.
Yes I know 10-7 could make it (as long as the Bills beat KC), but stating that for confidence and the teams state of mind.
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Which makes this year so sad. Of course the Bills can turn it all around.
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2 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
absolutely. I pointed out two weeks ago that the eagles game was not a must win but KC is.
The eagles were ripe to be beaten and are not as good as their record. KC is playing exactly to their record. They are a very good not great team with a fantastic qb.
Playing them in KC will be the issue this week. Its going to be 7 days of we didn't get any calls in KC and then the officials will over compensate next week and everything will be a penalty. I can only imagine the whining Big Fat Andy Reid is doing this morning to the league.
If the Bills win in KC this week imo, all is forgiven and its the reset button on the season. Buffalo can beat Dallas in Buffalo, it will be similar to the eagles game. Then they can find a groove.
Lose in KC and it will be near impossible to find a way in.
Again why I started a 5-0 thread down the stretch. Really is doable, just worry if any games are close how McD will respond.
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3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
The texans plays the colts and the browns.
The colts play the steelers, texans and bengals
The broncos play the chargers twice...and finish at the raiders.( and the lions in detroit)
The browns have jax, the texans and the bengals.
Most of the teams buffalo is competing with are going to get a few more losses and in the conference. Denver might lose that game at detroit.
I thought it was over but there is a long way to go and the bills could steal a wild card spot if denver loses two more games which they definitely can.
Regardless, have to win the next two imo.
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6 minutes ago, Gregg said:
If not this year, then definitely next year. Pretty soon the Bills are going to have to sell tickets and PSL fees at the new stadium. I live 20 minutes from MetLife and have Jets tickets. The last year at Giants Stadium I was paying $1700 for tickets and parking. First year at MetLife I started paying $3700 for the same thing as well as PSL fees. A $2000 increase and my increase wasn't even the most expensive. Terry knows he need a winning product for the huge increase in prices that he wants Bills fans to pay.
Unfortunately this is the year to fire McD as his fingerprints are all over every loss and decision made this year (game plans and calls). If they lose the next two weeks, I can see a scenario where he loses the locker room and forces Terry's hand.
2024/25 I see no way with Allen that they aren't a playoff team again, but the goal is to win the Super Bowl and like others, I expect when push comes to shove McD will come up short and as long as Playoffs Pegula won't make a change.
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20 hours ago, NewEra said:
And the drops. And the penalties. And running the wrong routes.
there has been a lot of issues throughout this season. LOTS.
I’m not disagreeing with the premise of your post. McD has been a big problem, especially at the end of games (zero blitz anyone?) but there has been several issues in offense this year too. Which should also come down on the HC. Even more reason he should be replaced.
oh well. Hopefully he can prove us wrong next year
I've been hoping he proved me wrong for years' now as all I care is the Bills win.😜
I'm hoping as Pegula watches the 2023/24 opportunity slip away if things go further south, that he sees what a blown opportunity this was and that McD was primarily responsible.
NE has 2 wins this year and drove 75 yards to beat Buffalo.....
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2 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:
They had the same record as the year before, , let's lay off the non nonsense. They win by a non pass int call against Tyrod. Josh Allen is our Qb
Okay let's not exaggerate. Both were 7-7 going into the last 2 games. Buffalo lost in OT to Miami and Rex was fired.
The difference was the 2016 Bills offense was actually not bad at all. 2017 under McD they were 31st in the league.
1 minute ago, Gregg said:Talk about an awful loss. Steelers had no business losing to the Cardinals at home yesterday. Any chance the Pats can beat the Steelers this Thursday night. I doubt it but it would be nice to see NE get the win here.
The Steelers have been lucky all season as they were outgained every week and winning. Law of averages catching up.
NE has one win this year vs. a team not named the Bills.🤔
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Not happy with the Chiefs loss to GB as they are now as desperate as the Bills.
A loss & this really was a wasted year as a pretty clear path to the SB with KC down, no Burrow and no dominant AFC team.
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Found this and can sort all penalties. I have it on Pass Interference
https://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/defensive-pass-interference?year=2023
Incredible to see Jax has drawn 15 DPI & committed only 1.
Totals interesting too as Bills are 5th in committing penalties and 19th in drawing them.
https://www.nflpenalties.com/phase.php?year=2023
Equally bad on Defensive & Offensive Penalties committed.
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Here's an interesting page I found on penalties. Buffalo has drawn only 3 PI's all years, but for 85 yards.
https://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/defensive-pass-interference?year=2023
The incredible stat though is Jax. Only been called for one PI all season, but drawn a league high 15!!!
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1 hour ago, BRH said:
You will see more “wow” catches in college for the simple reason that college quarterbacks are by and large not as accurate as NFL quarterbacks.Allen is so good, his receivers never have the opportunity to make a "wow" reception.🤣
Sources say ZERO PERCENT chance McD is fired
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by Billsfan1972
Funny how the worm has turned. In the past, I would post anything questioning McD and watch the emojis add up with X's, Eyerolls, Vomit & Mad and that was a way to keep track of the McD "Truthers" (yes I'm being sarcastic). Just look at some of my threads and the many that piled up if I said anything negative about McD.
Now posters are dragging out the dregs of the Bills coaching fraternity and wondering how they'd do with Josh Allen as their QB and the weapons amassed on the defensive side. I don't know if they were good or really bad coaches, just that Buffalo had losing records and most never got another NFL head coaching job. Also know not one of them had a QB who excelled elsewhere too.
I've never hated McDermott, just disliked his philosophy, didn't buy into the "Process", hated his indifference to the Offense and thought of him as a tight ass. But as long as they won, which started in 2019 and the with the emergence of Allen all I wanted was a SB.
However the in-game coaching mistakes really drove me batty (started in earnest with the Houston playoff game) and it get's worse and worse as losses pile up that can be attributed to late game coaching in particular.
Another post highlights last year's KC Game and the late game int. Good pressure and a great play. Thankfully it was early in the drive and the defense was aggressive. Let's give the staff props there. But since then not a single game where we can say the same thing.
And now look how those with pitchforks out for McD can post with impunity about McD, and so few left who will defend him, with only a small handful who seem thrilled by this thread and the proclamation by The Athletic that McD is safe.
As said I don't care for the most part who is coach (as long as no shady past, questionable conduct, criminal record....) as long as they unleash Allen and bring a SB. to Buffalo.