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12 hours ago, ToGoGo said:
Lots of people projecting a lot of their own personal issues onto McDermott. Every little thing an indictment on his character.
Lots of people are broken records on here the last few weeks. Saying the same negative things over and over and over again.
The broken record comes just as loud from the McD camp.
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1 hour ago, wppete said:
This right here is very telling. Daboll was loved by his players on the Bills.
Too much a friend, he had to go....
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2 minutes ago, Neo said:
Lots of back and forth, here. Here’s what I’ll be watching. Motivation is something we talk about without a lot of precision. I think all players find motivation differently. Frankly, I think players are almost all motivated almost all of the time. They’re playing for themselves as well as the team. Teams are composite competitors with individual contracts, bonuses, recognition, free agency goals, etc. With that, we now have 53 players whose coach was just embarrassed league wide. Do they show up in KC knowing there’s blood in the water with a coach they’d like to move on from, or do they show up with the same coach and want to retain him? I’d love to see the Bills perform like “he’s our guy” and have something to prove.
Perform because you are embarrassed that you are 6-6 and are better then that and you still owe KC. I certainly if the Bills win, won't think they "Did it for McD".
I am sure he has some loyal supporters who will think that way, but I'm sure it is not unanimous.
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6 minutes ago, RkFast said:
Oh one time when Allen threw another horrid INT his coach yelled a little bit? HORRORS!!!!!
The only HC Im familiar with who does this sort of thing regularly is the man most people here have a man-crush on and would like to see replace McDermott....Brian Daboll. That guy waves his arms and rolls his eyes more than a bobblehead doll.
Know the player and how to react. I guess with Dorsey in the Pressbox it was McDermott's responsibility to scream at his "Franchise" QB?
I thought the Offense was Dorsey's responsibility?
I bet McD was screaming at him for not playing "Complementary Football" and putting "his" defense back on the field.🤣
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If this from Part 3 doesn't piss you off about McD..... Then I guess nothing will.....
There are two distinct versions of Josh Allen this 2023 season. One is fun. One takes off on the run — “The crowd loves it!” Al Michaels professes — and holds the football over the goal line while staring down a Tampa Bay Buccaneers cornerback. All at full speed.
This version gets a Cincinnati Bengals safety to leave his feet with a pump fake, points, laughs and runs in for a TD. Flag ‘n fine, be damned. Meanwhile, Sean McDermott, spits on the turf and purses his lips. Fifteen yards lost on a kickoff likely means more to the Buffalo Bills head coach than any momentum gained by his backyard quarterback rediscovering himself.
This version, at rain-slopped Philadelphia, rams through Reed Blankenship at the goal line, chucks the ball against the backstop and — flanked by teammates — swaggers right into the teeth of those trash-talking Eagles fans as if welcoming a dark-alley fight. The TD launched a tour de force for the quarterback: 420 total yards, four touchdowns.
“No. 17 is just a different bird,” said one friend and former pro teammate. “He’s wired different. He’s not like most of these quarterbacks. He wants to make dick jokes and run into people.”
If Buffalonians could create the quarterback they’ve always desired in a lab, it’s exactly this.
But then, there’s the other Allen. The pale, stupefied, knockoff version who trudges to the sideline after an interception vs. Denver with McDermott screaming in his ear.
Unlike his boss, Allen does not come remotely close to assigning blame. Doesn’t embarrass receivers on national TV. Doesn’t snipe into earholes on the sidelines. Doesn’t kindly remind the public what McDermott said back in March when, in truth, it’s fully within his rights to alert your attention to these trainwreck comments. When, in reality, this is everything a former Bills assistant coach meant when he said this team is forced to “overcome the head coach.” Everything a former teammate meant by McDermott serving as a drop of “poison.”
A smart coach does everything in his power to accentuate the first version of Allen.
Realize you’ve been gifted a Marvel character at the most important position in sports and let him fly.
Then, there’s McDermott sitting down with NFL Network last March. He made it abundantly clear that Allen needed to siphon these sorts of plays out of his game.
“I don’t think that that’s a healthy way to play quarterback in this league,” said McDermott, in a video posted by the team. “It’s really undefeated that things are going to happen when you play that style, that brand of football. So, we’ve got to get that adjusted. It’s never going to go completely away but it has to get to where it’s workable. I don’t want to take his personality away from him as far as that goes. His signature. But there needs to be an adjustment in that style of play.”
Manually warping the “style” of your most valuable commodity should’ve slotted in as the 2,789th item on the Bills’ offseason agenda. But this was no surprise.
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In part 3 confirms exactly what many of us think McD has done with Josh Allen. He's made him a shell of himself and made him second-guess everything and frankly has no idea who he has.
Yep complementary football at it's finest.
Funny some of us have been saying this for a long time.
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9 minutes ago, boater said:
The McDermott 9/11 speech was four years ago.
How many of you here can be found not saying something stupid the past four years?
This wasn't off the cuff comment made in a bar after a couple of drinks to friends. This was a well thought out speech he gave to his players.
If you can't see the big difference, what more can I say?
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8 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:
What coaches or players said McDermott blamed the offense? I didn’t see any name’s attached to said events. Did you? Not saying it’s not true but there’s zero proof that it is true.
He's inferred it numerous times this year, while heaping praise on his defense. Where have you been?
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12 minutes ago, DC Greg said:
Yeah, but those are coaching legends who don't crap their pants when the game is on the line and have 12 men on the field, call timeouts that help the other team, throw dumb challenge flags, have the defense out of position and generally unprepared, have the offense take a knee, and everything else that McDermott does to lose games. I could care less about this hit piece and whatever aspects of his personality are being discussed here.
I don't care if he's a jerk or a saint, I care if he can coach. And at this point, he has proven THAT HE CANNOT. He is SINGLEHANDEDLY losing this team games with his cowardly, deer-in-headlights coaching in any tight game. Enough is enough. That's why he needs fired, not because of any of this crap. It's remarkable how obviously bad he is whenever the game is on the line. He's the anti-clutch and everyone knows it. Dump this hack already.
Except you forget according to McD it's all the offenses fault.🤣
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3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
I apologize, but my best efforts can't find this tweet or the "chad hall truck story".
could you summarize please?
https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/ty-dunne-sean-mcdermott-josh-allen-9-11/
Per Dunne, McDermott at times appeared “jealous” of the relationships between his players and his assistant coaches. One example:
Chad Hall played wide receiver, was much closer in age and — clearly — has a gift for managing egos in his room. The Bills receivers loved Hall so much that they bought him a truck for Christmas in 2020. An objectively touching moment that Isaiah McKenzie shared via Instagram. In the dark, in the rain, you see Stefon Diggs and Andre Roberts lead Hall out to the driveway with a beanie over the coach’s eyes. On the audio, Cole Beasley says that this was originally Gabe Davis’ idea and that they all chipped in.
It’s impossible for any sane person to watch this heartwarming video and not feel happy for Hall.
Obviously, this coach had made a profound impact on those receivers’ lives — why anyone gets into coaching in the first place.
But Sean McDermott? Oh boy. Sean McDermott was not pleased. One source described this as “a dark day at One Bills Drive.” Not only was the head coach pissed that players were gathering as a group during Covid, McDermott told his staff he pays them to be a coach. Not a friend. Other coaches could not believe his cold response. They had never seen anything like this in their careers.
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25 minutes ago, Governor said:
Everyone talks about turnovers but if Josh caught fire here to finish out, could he still be the MVP? Is it within reach?
It’s weird and I believe it goes back a few years when everyone wanted to crown Lamar Jackson as the greatest player and face of the league.
Then Josh Allen happened and they’ve been really mad about it ever since.
Lamar was brought up. What was funny is how upset Orlovsky was & he didn't get a chance to rebut.
McD too probably has cost Allen a # more TDs.
Now what too was missing Turnovers by other QB's and that this year the difference is only 3-4.
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15 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
"ST lost game 1". You mean the season opener Jets game where Allen threw 3 INTs and fumbled? Any idea what the W-L stats are when a team has twice as many turnovers as their opponent?
OK, I'm outta here. Not doing this with someone who comes to that conclusion about that game.
Just for the record, I have never said the defense played well against Jacksonville ("what a wonderous game the Bills D played allowing Jax 500+ yards?"); it is logically consistent to feel the the defense has overall played well and kept us in games while the offense wasn't scoring this season overall, while not extolling defensive performance in one specific game.
In the Jax game, there was an almost 2:1 edge in TOP for Jax.Yes Allen was awful vs. The Jets, but the winning points came in OT courtesy of the ST, which was the point.
When you leave the field with the lead <2 mins, the expectation is that the Defense will do it's job.
Another thread where this has been debated over and over.
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14 minutes ago, H2o said:
The 🤡's being 🤡's (in the first 4 minutes). They bring up TO's that overall did not decide the outcome of the game. JA gets his team a lead in the last 2 minutes against the Pats. The defense pisses it away. Josh Allen gets his team a lead in the last 2 minutes against the Broncos. The defense and ST piss it away. They don't mention that at all. It's just "his turnovers, his turnovers, they treat Lamar different," blah, blah, blah.
The first thing I see is 4 African Americans disparaging JA. What does that make me????
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7 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Where on earth do you get that from anything I've written on this board at any time?
Because you went on about how admirably the defense has played. They have given up late leads (<2 minutes) in 3 games the Bills lost, didn't make that one stop needed at the end to give Bills a chance when down a score (and ST lost game 1).
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10 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:
Not the same thing. What you're referring to as not winning anything is a Super Bowl. They have won plenty together in the regular season and in the playoffs. Herbert/Staley has been together for 3 years and had one playoff game and a huge collapse in that one game. You wanna talk about losing one score games, Staley is the king
Because McDermott is better than any of those guys. I would take McDermott without Allen than any of those other coaches with what they had.
Thank you for your OPINION Duly noted.🤣
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18 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
The result IMO was objectively under-whelming and under-performing. Yes, the Bills D gave up some game winning drives, but if the offense is functioning at the level expected for a "gift from the Football Gods" QB, there shouldn't be so many games where a drive in the final minutes can turn the game - and the defense is also objectively depleted by key injuries at every level and has frankly done better than I expected.
My opinion
Again are you one of those going on about what a wonderous game the Bills D played allowing Jax 500+ yards? Yea yea yea injuries, but 500 yards!!!!!
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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:
Prior to the season, a number of people here expressed concern about Dorsey returning as OC. Serious professional journalists - Joe Buscaglia for one - tagged "returning Dorsey as OC" as the Bills riskiest off-season decision.
I defended Dorsey's performance last season on statistical grounds and on the grounds that he lacked some critical pieces. This season, he got an upgraded OL and a first-round draft pick to work with as well as some solid journeyman acquisitions at WR and a "gadget" guy who was alleged to be an upgrade on McKenzie.
The result IMO was objectively under-whelming. Yes, the Bills D gave up some game winning drives, but if the offense is functioning at the level expected for a "gift from the Football Gods" QB, there shouldn't be so many games where a drive in the final minutes can turn the game - and the defense is also objectively depleted by key injuries at every level.
And when the Defensive minded HC has his hands up Dorsey's ass, that doesn't help either.
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37 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:
I understand they didn't have a Josh Allen. I also guarantee ALL of them wouldn't have done the things McDermott has done with this team. McDermott, while not making the best in game decisions at times, is much smarter than any of those guys prior. If you think Dick Jauron has the same success with Allen that McDermott has, you're delusional
And how exactly do you know? Like me you have no idea, just an opinion. I however can promise you 99%+ of coaches wouldn't have screwed up 13 seconds or had 12 men on the field vs. Denver.
Everything else is just an OPINION.
Just like some of us think McD is not a good coach (something I have stood behind from halfway through season 1).
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6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:
I'll say it again - articles like these are required when a head coach is not getting the job done and an article comes out with sources close to Pegula saying there's no chance he gets fired after the season.
If falling short on the field ("game management, decision making, whether some of the core principles of his defense are really sustainable under the modern salary cap") isn't going to result in changes then we have to go a different route.
Maybe Pegula is now getting the message. We're not going to allow Josh Allen to play his career here in Buffalo without lifting the Lombardi Trophy.
I'm sure Jerry Jone's opinion of McD if he was the owner of the Bills, would be very different then Pegula's and there would have been no McD's job is 100% safe article last week.
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48 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
I’m not trying to defend 911 Sean but to pretend like Allen was this version of Allen right away is completely misleading. Allen was brought along slowly and had a very good defense to help him settle into the job. The Bills did a great job developing him the right way. And since 911 Sean was the head coach, he deserves credit for that.
And I will disagree and thought his development was way too slow and they should have done a better job the first two years in allowing him to succeed.
Am I right? No one knows, but that is my opinion.
I made the statement on another thread that "why couldn't Allen have been thrown into the fire and given the "keys" like Stroud". I was given all the excuses in the world, and maybe Allen wouldn't have been as successful, but I think he would have been farther ahead.
However if McD was coaching Stroud I am 100% convinced he's be no where near performing as he is now as McD would preach "complementary football" and not letting him pass as much.
No 300 yard passing games the first three years McD coached. That is just an unbelievable stat, that no modern day coach has ever approached (95%+ of teams do it by accident at least once a year). Do you not remember how many blow-outs there were McD's first two years and the complete inability to comeback if down 10 points?
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36 minutes ago, Cray51 said:
Bills were 9-7 without Allen in Sean’s first year…. You call in miracle birth, I call it maximizing what he could from a terrible roster
You’re right, let’s bring Bill B in here, win super bowls, and then we can just ignore that he is a bigger control freak than Sean
or bring in Harbaugh, who just was suspended for cheating
or bring in a guy from the Shanahan tree, who is known as one of the biggest asses in the league
they are all saints.
I want none of them. The point is I'm not a football junky and knew absolutely nothing about McD when he was hired. I watch the game and have enough knowledge to decide whether he's doing a good job or not. The in game decisions are often horrible and 13 seconds & 12 men 100% inexcusable.
He was however the Bills coach and I was going to cheer him on. I quickly lost faith in him and he has done nothing to restore it.
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1 hour ago, Cray51 said:
I’m wondering if people would rather have players coach Rex Ryan taking us to 7-9 each year or control freak Sean Mcd with his 5 playoffs in 6 years.
I know who I’d want
Stop it, just stop it. Rex may have been a lousy coach, but his last year was pretty much the exact same as McD's first year (save the miracle playoff birth).
Rex did not have Allen. No Allen and the Bills would be lucky to be .500 with McD (and I'm being that generous because all the people here telling me how good a coach he is😉).
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41 minutes ago, mjt328 said:
Come on.
Do you really believe Sean McDermott was trying to praise the hijackers of September 11? Does he really seem like the type of person that would sympathize with terrorists that killed thousands of people?
He was clearly trying to make a point about being organized and working together as a team, and didn't think enough beforehand about how his comments were going to be taken. Once he realized his mistake, he apologized to the entire team, and then everyone moved on. Considering this happened 4 years ago, it clearly had zero affect on the team's performance.
There are plenty of legitimate reasons to believe McDermott is not the right coach to take a team to the Super Bowl. Embarrassing locker room speeches are not one of them. Being a control freak about sneakers is not one of them. His decision to fire under performing coordinators, just like every other head coach does in the NFL, is not one of them.
But yeah. It's pretty awesome this guy decided to release his article 3 days before the biggest game of the season. The team goes on a much-needed bye, needing refocus and get ready to win-out the last five games. Instead, they come out with two major off-field distractions.
It basically tells you only an idiot would use that analogy and think it appropriate.
Now a comedian trying a joke in a club "Let me tell you, you really need to applaud the coordinated efforts of those terrorists on 9-11, that was some serious sh!t and went pretty much according to plan until those Americans on flight 93 screwed up the plan and fought back" and yep watch it bomb. But the head coach to think this is a good teaching moment????
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8 hours ago, BFLO said:
No. The purpose of the article is to shame and humiliate Terry into firing this clown.
Hope it works, because last week we were told he was 100% safe.
Very few have anything at all personal against McD, they just don't see him as a coach who get's the best out of his most important asset, which is Josh Allen.
Add to that the coaching blunders and what will never be lived down, 13 seconds and what may cost them the playoffs this year (12 men), one can go on and on about.
I never bought into the Process and that first year a lot of religion talk. He completely lost me with Peterman, showing he didn't give a damn about the offense. I couldn't stand three years of terrible offense and I certainly have disagreed with how he handled #17 from day one.
Sorry just look at the Diggs situation and you know it is McD at the root of it.
But win a SB (or 2-3) and all is forgiven.
However this 9-11 story is national and the utter stupidity to use 9-11 as a teaching/inspirational motivating speech is telling.
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Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion
in The Stadium Wall
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Maybe because some of us have had enough of McD and didn't buy a lot of what he said from day one and have seen results on the field and then his response afterwards to think it is phony or disingenuous?
Now that does not mean at all that McDermott doesn't mean well, did not handle the Hamlin situation wonderfully and does not want to win.
As fans though regardless it has been a tough year and yep a lot of vitriol is directed at McD, and this article encapsulated what many here have thought, particularly about his handling of the offense. Heck it barely scratched the surface of how the Bills are 6-6 and that there is no doubt that McD's Defense has not made the stop when needed late in games.