LeGOATski
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5 hours ago, Doc said:
Yes. Once he got on the roof with a rifle, that people saw happening and tried to alert law enforcement, he should have been shot dead.
That's your prerogative, but it doesn't work that way, as far as I know. Just in general terms, some guy climbing buildings with a rifle in a rural area, you'd have to warn him to put the gun down before opening fire on him.
In something like this, I imagine the process would be that as soon as they got word of a potential shooter, they communicate that and then pull Trump off the stage immediately, they can't just fire on someone until they're 100% or as close to 100% as possible.
So, in this case, SS should've been storming the stage and covering President Trump, pulling him to safety before shots were even fired. Meanwhile, SS and police engage the potential threat as safely as possible with the preservation of life as a priority.
There's no doubt there were holes in this process and a lack of communication.
I mean, WHAT IF an innocent idiot was out hunting and on his way back thinks he's far enough away, and he just wants to watch the rally through his scope. You can't just open fire on the guy. There's rules to engagement and I think this is more complicated than people are making it out to be, but I have little doubt that they still failed in their process.
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49 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
If she hasn't been fired already, she should be by tomorrow.
And for a (future) non-governmental employee, I can't really find anything to disagree with in this tweet:
She doesn't decide whether you get to have a weapon or not. I work with the NICS every day and that's completely untrue.
People think the FBI bases their hiring on political affiliation? There are all backgrounds of people working within all factions of the federal and state government.
She might definitely get a slap on the wrist, but from I see she's not claiming to represent the views of the FBI.
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54 minutes ago, ghostwriter said:
Jesus is the Son of YHWH. Just as you are the seed of your biological father, Jesus is the seed of our Heavenly Father.
He doesn't have literal DNA seed. That's what you said. You're saying God is made of human matter...
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6 minutes ago, muppy said:
not from moi any more. Take the good if you really think this place is worth your time. It's really not. it is a total waste of time. You lay down with dogs you're going to catch fleas.
I come here mainly to see reactions and rarely engage, but I like it here better than social media. At least here I know a little bit of the background and tendencies behind the reactions I see.
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9 minutes ago, ghostwriter said:
I see it this way, Jesus is the direct descendant of Yahweh the Father. Jesus is his seed. His uncreated Son who always was. We are created sons of God, Jesus is God, the literal DNA of Yahweh. He was never created, he always was.
All three parts exist outside of space and time as we know it. He's not the literal DNA of God. I think you mean that figuratively...
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5 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:
Melania statement.
This is honestly a great statement. Imagine if Trump himself made such a statement, lived and acted in such a way towards everyone.
Can such a close brush with death change a man in that manner? It's happened before....
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Just now, 4th&long said:
That’s why Jesus clearly says in the scriptures that “the father is greater than I am”. Because he clearly meant they are equal. Right.
He's God in human form, but to represent them verbally as "Father", "Son", and "Ghost" is obviously intentional for the purpose of establishing hierarchy and roles.
All in all, their roles are equal in part to the entire operation and goal.
It's like how McDermott would describe Offense, Defense, and Special Teams, all an equal one-third of the team's success. 😉
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1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:
He could've chosen to engage immediately, but that wouldn't be standard procedure. Retreating and waiting for backup is absolutely standard.
We had two officers recently confronted by a man pointing a rifle at them on the street. They had to retreat to their vehicles. An officer should not engage unless absolutely necessary.
Since this gunman didn't fire on the officer, what he did was correct. His SOP is different than a counter-sniper team, for instance, although I'm not even sure a counter sniper can engage until an actual shot is taken.
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It stands to logic that only an outside agency should be investigating this.
For comparison, when there's an officer involved shooting in one jurisdiction, only a separate jurisdiction can investigate it. Idk if that's standard everywhere, but it is in most places.
That still presents the question of whether the separate jurisdiction, still being part of the broader officer community, will be partial.
You have to use whichever agency can be the most partial while still having the necessary resources to conduct a thorough investigation.
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5 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
Lots of Jesus talk on here. Get a grip.
The following stories are far older than the Pentateuch and contain much the same elements. In the Persian story, God created the world in six days, a man called Adama, a woman called Evah, and then rested. The Etruscan, Babylonian, Phoenician, Chaldean, and Egyptian stories are much the same. The Persians, Greeks, and Egyptians had their Garden of Eden and the Tree of Life. The Persians, Babylonians, and Nubians, all had the story of the fall of man and the subtle serpent. The Chinese account says that sin came into the world by the disobedience of a woman. Even the scriptures of the Tahitians tell us that man was created from the earth, and the first woman from one of his bones. All these stories are equally “authentic” and of equal value to the world and all the authors were equally “inspired.” We know that the story of the Flood is much older than the book of Genesis, and we know besides that it is not true and that the story was copied from the Chaldean. There we read all about the rain, the ark, the animals, the dove that supposed to have been sent out three times, and the mountain on which the ark rested. The Persians, Greeks, Mexicans and Scandinavians have substantially the same story.
It's a narrative around Trump, buoyed by his own statements, so it's interesting to hear people's honest take on it if they're willing to engage.
Not sure what the rest of your post has to do with the conversation.
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18 minutes ago, UConn James said:
There probably isn’t video of Teddy Roosevelt taking one to the chest and then still giving his speech to applause, but there’s probably a photo.That guy was real life Batman.
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50 minutes ago, Bockeye said:
I’m 100% in agreement that god has zero intervention on the world we live in (if in fact there is a single entity called god).
My point is that there is no such thing as “free will”. There is only “informed will”…..So when you say “our free will choices we make….” , I have a different view.
Point taken. That child still has free will. Anyone can only make choices based on the information and experience they have. That's the whole purpose of evangelism. To reach those in need of this information (as well as other resources).
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2 minutes ago, Bockeye said:
There is no “free will” as interpreted by region. There is informed will.
Tell me how a child growing up with a crack mom and gangster dad has the ability to freely choose? He is ultimately influenced and people are influenced by those around them - family, friends, media, religion, etc.
Our free will and the choices we make have ramifications on those around us. This is a vital lesson which is also demonstrated in that initial tale of the first two humans.
It's a world of pain and suffering, but not because God is intervening and ruling over it, as some here seem to think.
To say God is intervening and ruling this world in one breath and then say this world has gone down the tubes in the next breath presents a conflict. What are you saying about God then?
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8 minutes ago, LeviF said:
What does “all authority” mean?And where does the Bible state that humans operate with free will?
The greatest example of this concept is in the very beginning with Adam and Eve. God gave them the rules and they had the free will to break them. They were then directly tempted by the devil.
In the rest of the old testament we see examples of God intervening directly until Jesus is introduced as the redeemer. After that, direct intervention isn't needed because you now have the guidance and the path (Jesus) towards salvation.
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8 minutes ago, Beast said:
I’m not God.You explain it.
God already explained through Jesus the concept of free will and his lack of interjection.
I'm not asking you to explain God, I'm asking you to explain your own concept of free will and interjection somehow coexisting.
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16 minutes ago, LeviF said:
You fail to grasp even the basics of this.
Condition on the “authority” that the tempter offered was what? To worship the tempter.
Jesus refused not because he rules a “greater domain” but because his dominion is greater than that of the tempter’s.
Properly understood, Christianity teaches that Jesus rules both heaven and earth as God and Christ.
He has dominion over the spiritual domain of heaven and earth. He's not ruling the earth. This is where that free will aspect comes into play. Jesus/God/holy spirit doesn't play games and manipulate people of the Earth the way the Devil does. God doesn't interject the way he did in Old Testament times. The Devil doesn't believe in free will, obviously. That's the spiritual battle constantly fought within people: the devil tempting you directly and your faith and commitment restraining you to keep you on the right path.
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7 minutes ago, Beast said:
No, actually I’m not hypocritical or calling God a hypocrite.
The devil doesn’t rule the Earth. The Holy Spirit, which is God, does. Satan will rule the Earth when the Holy Spirit is removed.
We aren’t there yet.
Explain how free will and intervention coexist
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1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:
But this happened because the devil is real. And I believe God is watching the world’s last best hope in its struggle against him.
Do you believe in both the new and old testaments or just the old?
Your statement is in line with purely old testament thinking and disregards Jesus' purpose.
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9 minutes ago, Beast said:
No. The way I look at it God doesn’t prevent everything. He gives people free will . That doesn’t mean He doesn’t ever interject.
I don’t know what His will is but I also believe He may have a very important role for President Trump to fill once he wins in November and takes his rightful place in the Oval office in January.Giving free will, but then interjecting is hypocritical. You're calling God a hypocrite.
God does not appoint politicians. I wish that was a universal understanding. The Bible tells us time and again the the Devil rules the earth. He even tempts Jesus by offering him authority over the kingdoms of the world. Obviously, Jesus refuses because he knows he rules a greater domain.
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4 minutes ago, B-Man said:
I honestly wonder why you are so afraid of a person expressing faith in God.
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"Afraid" is a strange way to put it.
I definitely think it's weird and deceptive because he's obviously not a God-fearing Christian man. Everything he does and says out in public shows that.
An honest candidate like Ramaswamy wouldn't do this.
We'd be so much better off with someone who is a sincere person.
Trump goes on to say he wants the country to unite, which is also obviously dishonest. When has this guy ever promoted unity? In reality, he's consistently trying to divide people. All the way back to his time as CEO and days on The Apprentice, he's a divider by nature and by strategic choice.
It's hard to imagine people don't see his religious dialogue as anything but disingenuous. Trump using God's name for the purposes he does is definitely evil. If there's any fear in me about it, it would be centered around that.
We need a candidate up there who's actually going to unite this country. The two we have now are not leaders who will navigate the country out of this tension we're experiencing. They're only going to enflame and exploit it.
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1 minute ago, Beast said:
Prove he wasn’t.What do you honestly think about it?
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What do you guys honestly think of Trump saying he was protected by God alone?
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3 minutes ago, SCBills said:
They look absolutely panicked.They all do. Feel free to give your expert analysis. You should watch the whole event, it just when they're securing Trump in the car.
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1 minute ago, boyst said:
Uh huh. Who shot Harvey milk? Who shot Gifford's?
Spoiler: not Republicans.
While we're going down the conspiracy road with "only Republicans are being targeted" everything's on the table.
Attempted Assassination on President Trump (x2)
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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He's filled with the spirit and wisdom of God the way no one else was or has been. It may have been an immaculate conception, but that's God just combining Joseph and Mary's DNA without sexual intercourse, similar to artificial insemination. Like God making Adam from the Earth (DNA) and then making Eve from Adam's bone matter (Adam's DNA), God's not using his own DNA (which doesn't exist in a spiritual entity, because DNA is a non-spiritual, earthly molecule).
Saying God put his DNA (which he doesn't even have because he's a spiritual entity outside of space and time as we know it) into Mary is very much like saying Zeus came down and got Acmene pregnant in order to birth Hercules.
It's too weird.