GunnerBill
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14 minutes ago, LEBills said:
Other posters that claim to have some sources have said the Bills would have drafted Ted Higgins if we had retained the pick. Maybe one of them will see this post.Let’s just enjoy memories of the most prolific receiver in Bills history.
The information I have is at the point the Bills made the trade (which was FA time wasn't it so like 6 weeks out from the draft) the comparison they front office was using to decide whether trading away a first for Diggs made sense to them was Tee Higgins. That leads me to believe that at that point Tee was likely their WR4 because the consensus was Jeudy, Ruggs and Lamb would be gone. It doesn't have to mean that. Maybe the Bills felt Jefferson would almost definitely be gone too and so they thought WR5 was likely the best that would be left for them. Or maybe Higgins was WR4 for them at that point but they could have flipped to Jefferson by draft day - that's also possible.
But the player who was their counterfactual in the Diggs decision at the time it was made was Tee Higgins.
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8 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
I wouldn't get my hopes up so high. There are lots of good defensive tackles and cornerbacks in the upcomming draft.
There is genuinely a bit of a point about whether you really want to use a first on a WR in 2026 when the 2027 class looks at this stage potentially epic. I know you were talking half in jest but it isn't a great CB crop (and there is zero chance Beane spends a high pick on a corner this year anyway) but it IS a strong defensive line group. And take it from the man himself - he will "never apologise" for prioritising the defensive line. If I had to put money on the position of the Bills 2026 first round pick right now I'd put it on a defensive lineman. Probably EDGE over DT, but one or the other.
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4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
I hope you are right about that. I'm not convinced, but I definitely hope you are right. Thurman Thomas was also a guy who mostly squirted through things and didn't take big hits. But time took its toll, as it generally does. After those first five years his YPA took a very noticeable dip, and though he was always a very good RB, he wasn't what he'd been in those first five years.
I agree that James and Dalvin have different styles, but also different body types. At 5'10, Dalvin is shorter but 15 pounds heavier. James isn't nearly as big and strong.
I worry about his wear and tear, but from your keyboard to God's ears.
If it is long term wear and tear you are worried about then the Bills have guarded against that. This is year 4. They are pretty much committed through year 5. But it would cost $5.4m in dead cap if they wanted to move on in 2027.
That isn't a justification anyone can use to still hold onto a wrong opinion about extending him.
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1 hour ago, stuvian said:
If we're going to criticize Clappy we should also point at Andy Reid who refused our invitation to run Kareem Hunt down our throat. We were in dime defense the whole game and our run D is a known vulnerability
Hunt sucks. That's why.
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Ah man. A replay? Didn't we win the first time? Replays are for what you guys call ties.
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3 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:
I wonder when Gabe Davis makes his way to the roster.
I hope soon.
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7 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:
Just curious, who do you have in that group?
From the top of my head Barkley, McCaffrey, Taylor, Henry, Gibbs, Robinson and Jacobs deserve consideration.
So Taylor, Robinson, Barkley, McCaffrey, Cook?
Taylor, Robinson, Barkley, Cook and Gibbs would be my 5.
I am a bit of an ageist (as is known) and McCaffery's 3.5 yards per carry isn't buttering many parsnips anymore.
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1 minute ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:
This offense doesn't use its WRs. He's a bit of a waste here.
What we needed was a true #1 who can win one on ones. Those aren't ready available mid-season.
This is where I am at. Shaheed was a potential complimentary piece. A complimentary piece might help a bit but it doesn't change this offense or how teams defend us. Only a true potential outside #1 does that.
Last year you had Adams, DHop and Coop who have all been that in their careers on the market though well on the back 9 and trying for them made sense to me even if Coop didn't totally work out. The trade market this year didn't have those kind of options available. It had pieces that to me move the dial very little. Is there a price at which Shaheed made sense to me? Yea. Not sure it was more than what Seattle paid.
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1 minute ago, Rew said:
Cook is doing it with the threat of Allen throwing or running on the field. Taylor is doing it with... Daniel Jones? Cook is doing it in the #1 offense over the last 5 years.
Allen is also an MVP candidate. There is no scenario where a RB has a shot at MVP when on the same team as a QB candidate (CMC should have won and didn't for this reason).
Cook has been playing terrific, I wouldn't want anyone else here, and we'd be worse without him. However, it is entirely fair (and accurate from my viewpoint) for an external observer to say that Taylor means more to the Colts than Cook means to the Bills this year.
I agree no running back should win it, and there is no bigger JTay fan than me. He is the rare thing.... a running back I thought was worth a 1st round pick (even though he went in the second) and he and Jimbo have elite vision in common. But Cook has been right there on a par with him in terms of performance this year. You say that Taylor means more to the Colts but in the two lesser Cook games (Pats where they dud a nice job on him, Falcons where Brady inexplicably got away from him) what did the Bills offense look like? Cook is more important to the Bills offense than I'd like him to be.... I think without him we are pretty stuck in neutral.
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57 minutes ago, eball said:
So it sounds like you're essentially agreeing that Burrow is not in those three QBs' echelon -- which is really my point. He's a good QB but I am not sold on him as a "put the team on my back" elite guy, which those three clearly are.
I am not agreeing with that. I think he is 4th on the list, sure. But I think he is still in that tier. He was incredible last season and had his team been better he'd have been MVP.
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30 minutes ago, eball said:
If you replace Allen, Mahomes, or Jackson with Burrow, what do you think happens to the fortunes of the Bills, Chiefs, and Ravens?
Serious question.
They'd suffer too, obviously. We have seen plenty of the Ravens without Lamar and it isn't pretty. We haven't seen much recent evidence of Bills or Chiefs without their guy but Matt Barkley once led the Bills to 41 points. It didn't mean they weren't better with Josh Allen.
I don't think Joe Flacco's performance on Sunday tells us anything other than if you want a backup QB in the NFL then you can still do a lot worse than former Superbowl MVP Joe Flacco. In other news, water is indeed wet.
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The Bengals are 45-32-1 with Joe Burrow since he was drafted. For a 0.576 win percentage.
The Bengals are 7-14 without Joe Burrow since he was drafted. For a 0.333 win percentage.
He isn't perfect, he holds the ball too long at times which for a QB with limited mobility should be a no-no but he is in the elite club. No question.
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15 hours ago, HamptonBillsfan said:
It wasn’t a chip shot, it was 50 yds. You keep defending this guy’s in game decisions, how has it worked so far? He didn’t make it and Mahomes had the ball with enough time
to run 4 plays from the 40.
It was the right call. 52 yards in the modern NFL in high leverage scenarios is must make.
Prater missed.
8 hours ago, jkeerie said:Actually what was more puzzling was the run play before that put the ball on the right hashmark. Prater prefers kicking from the left. Had the ball been on the left hash, Prater may not have hit the upright.
This is actually a VERY good point. Well done that man.
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9 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:
His college career, while solid, didnt really showcase his talents like other stud RBs. He finished his senior year 2nd on the team with 728 yards. The talent was there in spurts, but it really wasnt until his 2nd or 3rd yr in the NFL that he broke out and became the threat that he is today.
Good job by Beane to take him in the 2nd, then build a running game around him, and then resign him. He's definitely worth it.
And I think Beane drafted him thinking he'd be a good receiving back and offer some pop in the run game. He has surprised even them I suspect.
I am not trying to be smart after the event but there were people before that draft saying the Bills should take Breece Hall in the first and I said I think there is so little between them I'd rather take Cook in the second. It is now undeniably the case that Cook is a better back than Hall.
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41 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:
He is playing sensationally.
The question is whether we should keep running him at this pace, and whether his body will hold up under this strain.
And whether he can in fact hold up at a pace like this for three or four more years. His brother couldn't, and he is a bigger stronger dude, though with a more bruising style.
In any case, the contract they gave James looks like a very good one, even with signing him a year early, which usually implies the team gets a discount.
I'm hoping they ease his workload a bit, getting him out of games early whenever possible. Ty Johnson looked pretty good against the Chiefs, maybe if Ray and Ty start to look as solid as they did last year we can do that more.
Thurman was an absolute work horse, but he was never really quite as good after those first five years. And Thurman was 15 pounds heavier than James is.
Health is obviously a consideration with every player in the league. For a back mind you James doesn't take that many big hits. He is a different style of runner to his brother. The bigger risk is him getting his ankle rolled up on etc which he did a bit Sunday and looked gimpy for a series or two afterwards. That can happen to anyone at any time. The him wearing down.... I worry less about that.
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16 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:
Is there a changing of the guard in AFC power dynamics or is this an illusion? How good are the Colts, Broncos Patriots and for honorable mention the Chargers? Do the Bills need to be worried about any of these teams from a playoffs perspective? I know threads take on their own flavor but I am asking the questions in all seriousness to see what the read is from others.
I also get it that injuries will say a lot about what happens over the balance of the season. This aspect of the situation is anybody’s guess.
The Patriots worry me the most because I think Drake Maye's best can lay up with Josh if Josh is at 80/85% of his best. Jones can't. He needs Josh to be at more like 50/60% and so does Nix. Herbert can lay up but without both tackles he is going to be running for his life unless the gamble on Trevor Penning (who I was a fan of coming out) pays off.
If the Bills had to go on the road and beat the Broncos, Colts and Patriots to make the Superbowl you can sign me up for that right now.
2 hours ago, Chaos said:You could put Mahomes on any of the other AFC contenders other than the Bills, and they would be better than the Chiefs are with Mahomes, talentwise.
Not sure I'd include the Chargers in that personally. I think they are pretty beat up and I'd take the Chiefs roster over theirs right now. If everyone was healthy, possibly I'd agree. But their offensive tackles are arguably their two best players and they are both done for the year.
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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
I keep seeing people saying this and it drives me insane:
Like do people think that you make an offer to a team and it's just the first team that makes the offer just gets the player?
Like the Saints would be like "Hold on Seattle - I know historically your picks are better, you're out of the Playoffs before Buffalo, and your QB isn't named Josh Allen. But Buffalo got here first and we have to give him to them bc of that"?
It wouldn't have cost us a 4th and 5th. We'd have to pay more than Seattle bc their picks are presumed better.
Also I don't think Shaheed is the player some imagine him to be. That isn't to say he isn't good. Or he wouldn't have helped some. But I think people are building him in their heads to be something he isn't. He isn't a player who transforms this offense.
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6 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
My favorite response I got when arguing against the angry mob (and I think you were there for it and may have replied) was "Ty Johnson is our Best All Around RB".
Yes that was a good one.
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41 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Maybe? I just remember hearing his fall was in part due to that he was considered a Zone Specific CB Prospect. Which made him great for us, but not for everyone.
Yes, but I'd be surprised if that alone dropped him to the 6th. Normally when a guy slides that far there is some sort of medical or off field flag.
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"Nah should let him walk. Ray Davis can do the same behind this line."
Anyone who had that take should be here to eat crow.
Cook's vision is absolutely elite. That is always what wins for running backs. A bit of speed is nice too. Size is good if you can find it. But vision always wins. He was underrated the last two seasons by a large chunk of Bills fans. He is without doubt a top 5 back.
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
That was a very nicely timed PA out of 12 personnel that 100% fooled KC. Brady won that play, not the receiver. I don't really count that as an example of Knox "stretching the field." But I will give our offense some credit for finding some explosive pass plays against KC. That was totally missing in previous weeks. That PA to Knox, Kincaid's TD, the 47 yarder on Kincaid's crosser, the flag route to Moore. No coincidence that all 4 of our TDs came on drives that featured those 4 plays.
In fact the outcome of drives in this game perfectly correlated to whether we had a 20+ yard pass play. On 4 drives we had a 20+ yard pass and scored a TD on all of them, on 5 drives we didn't have a 20+ yard pass and failed to score a TD on all of them. That's how critical it is to be able to produce those explosive passes.
I remain unconvinced that we can consistently create those plays with the current personnel, especially if we're ever in a situation where the defense knows we have to pass, and I would have preferred to add a weapon that gives us more consistency there. But maybe they can build off this last performance and prove me wrong. We'll see.
Agree with almost all of this. I didn't love this trade market though at receiver. Do I honestly think Jakobi Myers, Rashid Shaheed or Calvin Ridley were the peice that made the difference here? No. Not really. I like Myers but he is not really a vertical down the field receiver. He is another hybrid slot / outside guy who does his best work in the middle of the field. Shaheed is similar and while he does have downfield speed he isn't really an X receiver who is going to dictate coverage. He is more like a better (and bigger) version of Elijah Moore. Calvin Ridley if you are getting the version of him from a couple of years ago would have been thr closest to what we need. I have no idea what compensation the Bills were willing to give to make that deal happen, but for my part it had to be less than we gave for Cooper a year ago. Giving up more day 2 draft ammunition for guys the wrong side of 30 wouldn't be for me. I don't think Ridley is a Cooper level talent in any event.
Beane made his wide receiver bed in the spring. Then shouted at some radio guys to make himself feel better. But the bed he made he must now lie in. If this regime is still here in April it should be with a clear dictat from Terry Pegula: Find Josh a #1 receiver or else.
EDIT: as an aside.... Tory Horton in round 5 would still have made a big difference to this roster. Imagine him returning kicks and offering some situational deep threat here as he is in Seattle (scoring 6 total TDs while he is at it) over Tyrell Shavers.
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11 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:
Wasn't the guy a 5th round pick? How much of a bonus did he get? And I doubt his contract is guaranteed. That's not a large amount of money in the grand scheme of how much it costs to live in this era.
The money isn't nearly as big as having your dream cut short almost before it started. That sucks.
6th round. First pick of the 6th I believe which was considered a significant slide for a guy who was anticipated as a late day 2 / early day 3 prospect. Does make you wonder now whether there were something on his combine medicals that factored into that slide and maybe that was related to the neck.
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7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
We've had our fair share of illegal formations on Offense too. And even one on special teams, and burned a TO on ST this Sunday with Hancock lined up Offside.
Get it together, boys
The offensive illegal formations I put more directly on players. That isn't confusion about the call or the formation that is just sloppy. The Samuel one last week for example is totally inexcusable. Other than drag his ass off the field and cut him not sure what else there is to do there for the coaches. The defensive ones are about getting the call in and the players knoeing their counter to offensive shifts and this season we have had more lined up incorrectly incidents than I can remember the last 8 years combined.
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Just now, DrDawkinstein said:
That is a coaching issue too. It's multiple players across Offense, Defense, and Special Teams. And across multiple weeks now. Gotta get it fixed immediately.
It has mainly been on defense. But I agree it is a coaching issue. McDermott has fixed the 3rd down defense since taking over. But the lining up incorrectly is still happening and it can't happen.
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Cowboys DE Marshawn Kneeland passes away - 24 yrs old.
in The Stadium Wall
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Very sad.