GunnerBill
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It essentially means:
Offense don't turn it over.
Defense get off the field on 3rd down.
Special teams win the field position battle.
So far this season we are not doing a great job at any of the 3.
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28 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:
Joe Brady was the bright, shiny object with no track record... 5 NFL seasons. Marcus Brady 8 NFL seasons, Waldron 16 NFL seasons.
I would take guys with more experience than a guy still living off his "built by association" with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and Justin Jefferson.
JMO.
Yea, I very strongly disagree.
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46 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:
In fairness both the 2024 Bears and the 2022 Colts were "sinking ship seasons." Eberflus was a complete failure as a HC as was Frank Reich in Indy. As with Waldron and the Bears, the Indy team that Marcus Brady coached got significantly worse after he left. Reich fired Brady days before he got the axe himself and the 3-5-1 Colts went 1-8 the rest of the way.
Track records are a funny thing... many of the hot names that get hired catch lightning in a bottle or were in the right place at the right time. I call it "built by association" (as opposed to guilt by association). If you're in the league long enough your gonna accumulate some blemishes... the shine comes off but that doesn't mean that the shiny, new objects are better.
The boldes us exactly how I feel about Joe Brady though. If I am moving on at OC it has to be for a proven upgrade. Waldron and Marcus Brady are not that. I'd take Joe Brady over both.
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8 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:
In what way had Marcus Brady's stock diminished?
Before the spate of significant injuries, the Chargers' offense and Justin Herbert were playing very well.
Whatever happened to the Bears under Matt Eberflus, I don't think you can blame Waldron.
The Bears were 4-5 when he was fired and went 1-7 the rest of the way.
In the case of both of these coaches, I think you have to look beyond any perceived blemishes and drill down to find their true value.
On Brady, he was fired after less than two years as the Colts OC. Then the Chargers offense the last two years is hardly a passing juggernaut.
As for Waldron.... I mean I think you can blame him for the offense. He really struggled to design a scheme for a QB who didn't want to play entirely from the pocket. And he had weapons. As I said I thought they should have interviewed him when they hired Joe as their permanent guy. But he wouldn't be on my interview list now if we had a vacancy.
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10 hours ago, nosejob said:
Idk, he couldn't get along with Wink Martindale....Wink was showing him up?
If the Bills are hiring a new Head Coach to maximise Josh I think it is possible. It isn't what I'd do to be clear, but I don't think it is impossible.
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1 minute ago, boater said:
I don't think Josh is a big fan of Daboll. Unless, possibly--Daboll is restricted to the skybox. He needs to be in a place where his temper can't harm anyone.
I remember those days of Daboll on the sideline screaming at Josh. No one wants a redux of that.
They are very tight.
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1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:
lol can we please stop w this
if the FO went to Allen and said they were considering Slobodan Milosevic for OC he'd be right on board
I was not saying Josh picked them. But he actively advocated for both and that no question factored into the decisions. I suspect he would advocate for whoever the internal candidate is next time too, whoever it is.... UNLESS he felt he had a legit shot of getting Daboll back. That's his guy and I think he'd pound the table.
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3 hours ago, dave mcbride said:
I honestly think Josh will be running the show if they go new OC. He is the franchise and far more valuable than either Beane or McDermott. Plus if Brady goes, it’ll be because Allen WANTS him to go. Allen is the power there now, although he of course has to be willing to exert that power. That’s an open question.
I agree on the value point and I agree the OC decision will come a lot down to Josh (the last two already did). But if he is banging the table for Daboll as OC I am not sure that is sustainable if McDermott and Beane remain. I am not sure he is going to go to war for Dabes yet.
I don't think it is off the table that Daboll is the next Bills Head Coach though.
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10 hours ago, dave mcbride said:
For the life of me, I can't understand why they went into prevent mode with zone coverage all the way down the field right before the half. Houston had plenty of time, and they predictably picked the Bills apart because a) the Bills couldn't get close with only four rushers and b) someone is always open in the Bills zone scheme if no one applies quick pressure on the QB.
Agree. I think that drive was the one drive on Thursday where you can question the scheme and the coaching. Not sure I agreed with the Bills plan there. They were clearly trying to hold them to 3 from the off and made it way too easy for them to get chunks and ended up giving up a tuddy.
The rest of that first half I put squarely on the defensive players who frankly should be ashamed of their effort. But that drive before half I did not like the calls or the concept for what the Bills were trying to do.
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17 hours ago, Low Positive said:
Or Joe Burrow, for that matter. Josh is elite at many things, but the presnap part of playing QB is not one of them.
Agree. Which isn't to say he is terrible at it but it is an area he is not elite. And as the physical gifts fade it will become more important.
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8 hours ago, Low Positive said:
My thoughts is that every NFL team's schedule is pre-determined by an algorithm and there is nothing that anyone can do. You just play who you play.
For sure. But 2026 is definitely a harder path than 2025 should have been.
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56 minutes ago, Chaos said:
People seem to assume we promote from within because McDermott prefers to. Perhaps no high end coordinator options outside the organization want to work for McDermott.
I strongly doubt it is that. They haven't really done much of a search. The Dorsey hire was open and shut (except for Daboll trying to take him with him to NY) and Brady got the interim job in season and kinda earned his way to keeping it (Josh likes him, he performed well and he was getting an OC job that round if not here then elsewhere).
If they truly did a wide ranging search they'd have their pick of the best out of contract OCs and up and coming offensive position coaches. Problem is only way of getting an upgrade there is likely a good OC on a staff that gets fired OR an offensive Head Coach who gets fired and is willing to take an OC job.
So, on the proviso that the regime - i.e. Beane and McDermott are staying... and that Josh will not have sufficient power to force Daboll back on McDermott..... I don't know if it would happen but Mike McDaniel is the obvious name if Miami lets him go or possibly Stefanski (who I do think can design offense better than he calls it but it is hard to know with the QB limitations). I imagine Canales has probably shown enough improvement to get a 3rd year in Carolina. If you are going to promising OC on a fired staff route then Mike Kafka? Bobby Slowick (not OC but passing game coordinator in Miami)? They don't feel like upgrades over Brady to me.
On the other side of the ball Jonathan Gannon is interesting as potential DC. Very similar schematically to McDermott, did an excellent job in Philly and is likely out as Head Coach in Arizona.
On 11/23/2025 at 4:59 AM, Sierra Foothills said:Here’s another name for OC: Shane Waldron.
After playing high school in Oregon and Massachusetts where he graduated from Phillips Academy, Waldron played collegiately at Tufts College as a tight end and long snapper. Early in his coaching career he had two stints with the Bill Belichick Patriots. In fact Belichick is also a graduate of Phillips Academy. Between the Patriots stints, Waldron coached under Charlie Weiss at Notre Dame. He then became Offensive Quality Control Coach under Jay Gruden and Offensive Coordinator Sean McVay with the Redskins, before being hired by Sean McVay in 2017 to be the Rams Tight Ends Coach. One year later he was promoted to Passing Game Coordinator, succeeding Matt La Fleur. The following year he was promoted to Offensive Coordinator, succeeding Zac Taylor who became Head Coach of the Bengals. In all of his 4 years with the Rams, Waldron worked with current Bills OL Coach Aaron Kromer. In 2021 Waldron became the Seahawks OC under Pete Carroll... succeeding Brian Schottenheimer. Last year Waldron was named the Bears OC under Matt Eberflus and lasted 9 games (4-5) before being fired. He is currently the Passing Game Coordinator for the Jaguars. Waldron is 46 years old.
I liked Waldron as a candidate last time based on his work with Geno in Seattle. But it was an unmitigated disaster in Chicago. With a QB who doesn't play a traditional drop back pocket game. Now obviously Josh >>>>>>>> Caleb. But I think he is off my list for now.
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5 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:
He was a hot name a few years ago. Kinda gone sideways for him since.
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Excellent drafting. Excellent coaching.
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7 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
The Jets may well get the number one pick in 2026, and they are arguably tanking right now. They traded their two best defensive players and benched their QB. I am not sure Fields is better than Taylor, but he is capable of a big offensive game in one out of every 4-5 games. I wouldn’t say that about Tyrod at this point.
Also, circle the date: December 21. That’s this year’s tank bowl, with the Jets traveling to New Orleans.
Yea I suppose I differentiate the "we suck" by mid season tank from the more intentional tank from the start. In the Jets position now you should absolutely be trying to lose.
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9 hours ago, SCBills said:
His pressure rate has dropped from Top 8 in the league to like 5.8%
Hes clearly not right.
We brought him here with a “plan” to keep him healthy and have him good for the playoffs.
Thats now become Bosa playing a ton of snaps through injury.
Clownshow.
That was definitely the plan. But what cab they do? The injuries are real.
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8 hours ago, QB Bills said:
There was a time where I would have done anything for the Bills to hire him.
I believe his first game was that Monday night opener against Washington years back. That Eagles offense that night was nothing like I'd ever seen. It was like they were playing a different sport altogether.
He's just not on the cutting edge anymore.
Yep. It's the bolded. Where once he was the coming force he is now clearly yesterday's man.
8 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:I dont agree about Carrol. It's a really bad team. He needs time.
How much time can a guy in his 70s get? That is why it sucked as a hire. That was a multi year rebuild.... with a coach who is in his 70s. Nonsensical.
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9 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
Would it shock anyone if Pete Carroll was 1 and done In Vegas, too?
Nope. Was horrible hire. And bringing Chip with him was clown show territory.
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11 minutes ago, Governor said:
The last true and blatant complete season tank I can remember was the Colts to get Andrew Luck.
The Cleveland 1-15 came after that and was definitely a tank. They even traded cap room for a pick remember allowing the Texans to essentially dump Osweiler's contract onto their salary cap for the cost of a 2nd round pick. That is the definition of a team trying not to win. But agree the Colts tanked for Luck too.
They are the only two genuine tanks I can recall.
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I'd take Addison in a heartbeat.
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42 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Nobody said it was. You’re the one who brought up Keon in a thread discussing the coaching issues.No I am not. The OP claimed he'd be the #1 on all those teams he listed except Seattle. That's utter insanity.
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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Our issues are bigger than Keon Coleman being a starting WR here. And Coaching is definitely one of those issues. The coaching doesn't get to get off that easy.
Keon wasn't even in uniform in the pathetic display of a game against Houston that had loads of issues in it.
Coaching has been an issue this year. It isn't the reason Keon Coleman sucks.
18 minutes ago, nosejob said:He could be a great red zone WR, I'm guessing that's his attention span. Ok, let's try that.
On what basis could he?
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Keon Coleman wouldn't be the #1 on any team in the NFL. I am not sure there are more than 2 or 3 where he'd even get a look as a #2.
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19 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
Old habits die hard. I’ve never played professional football, but I’ve got to think instincts take over in the moment which obviously weren’t working against that D Line. Not to mention our O Line looked like a turnstile for most of the night.Yea it was Wyoming Josh's worst trait. He has mainly overcome it in the NFL which is super impressive but every now and again when his OL collapses as it did Thursday he reverts to type, holds it too long running around recklessly in the backfield trying to make something happen. To be clear though it was a symptom of the Bills failure on Thursday not the cause.
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Bills release Elijah Moore
in The Stadium Wall
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Meh. I'd have released Keon first.