GunnerBill
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6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Poyer has always racked up tackles---often after getting plowed past the 1st down marker. He's getting smoked continuously.
The above poster is right, Poyer played well vs Tampa. He wasn't the issue. It was the second level almost all night. I don't think any of the three of them even played average. Poyer was pretty good.
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1 minute ago, HardyBoy said:
Ah Hancock and yes I knew that somewhere in my brain
do you think his issue was more run defense and getting confidence there allowed him to start just playing on passing downs and not think as much on those downs?
I guess, how does Poyer playing help Bishop on clear passing downs when Poyer is not in the game typically?
I think it is just about learning what responsibilities are what on a down to down basis. Rapp is a bit of a loose cannon. Poyer knows the defense reads his keys and plays the scheme. When you get into a rhythm doing that it carries over even when Poyer is out of the game.
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12 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
But again, they are not even that terrible in that...they rank 18th. Last year they were like 30th or 31st I think.
They were 29th last year. And trending for the same before McDermott took over playcalling. Was worse v Tampa but his first 3 games as playcaller they were in top 3 in the NFL territory and that boosted the average.
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Just now, Royale with Cheese said:
I have a feeling you think Buffalo Joe is a hottie.
He definitely is. I mean he is no daddy JoPo but still....
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37 minutes ago, HOUSE said:
I am no expert either but I believe the term is used in reference to 3 big naked guys stacking the line
Sounds like a party I've been to....
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14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I don't love the matchup and it sucks that it feels more and more likely we'll get them in the wildcard round. But there is proof of concept that we can beat them in the playoffs. Home or away doesn't really matter to me. There is no mental block that exists with the Ravens. With the Chiefs it is 100% mental from the coaches to the players. If anything the Ravens are the ones with the mental block because we've beaten them twice and Lamar has his own mental issues in ths playoffs.
And imagine if WC weekend the Chiefs didn't make it and the #5 Bills go to #4 Ravens and win. Even though this a flawed Bills team belief would be through the freaking roof.
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13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
and i think anyone honest who watched the quote would see him laughing while answering the question
because the reporter knows how allen's supposed to answer
yes, and he definitely does not mean he didn't play well
he means there were times he could have played better. which is true for every qb, in every game, ever
Yea it is the Josh standard. That wasn't in his 10 best games as a Bills QB. Might not be in his top 20. He played better against KC IMO. And yet he scored 6 touchdowns rush and pass. A top 10 Josh day on Sunday and that score would have got embarrassing quickly for Tampa.
EDIT: and he is the only QB in NFL history who could score 6 combined touchdowns and not have a top 10 career day.
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5 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:
At around 3:55, he's asked how he thought the totality of his play was vs the Bucs. He says "I didn't play too well", is the exact quote.And I think anyone who watched the game knows exactly what he means. It was not 60 mintues of consistent good QB play. If it had have been the Bills hang 60 on the Buccs.
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27 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
BIshop has put together 3 nice games in a row, no doubt. But Dejean has been a stud for most of 2 years, so dunking on people now who (rightfully) wanted him on the BIlls is pretty weak.
Agree. And didn't Dejean have a pick on SNF anyway? So he DOES now have a regular season pick. Dejean is a difference maker on that defense. Hopefully Cole is trending that way on ours. He has been excellent the past few games but we are a way off putting him on Cooper Dejean's level yet. And FWIW Dejean has graded out very well when he has played as an outside corner this season too, which they have done a fair bit of in 2025. He is elite in the slot, but he can play outside corner and be a good NFL starter. He isn't Taron Johnson who had to play slot because he wouldn't survive outside, he is closer to McDuffie who plays in the slot because he is elite there. He isn't as good as McDuffie outside, but he can play there.
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9 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
I just want to go out and say I was unanimously crucified basically when I said Marvin Harrison Jr was not my number one wide receiver
I said he was very overrated as someone who got to see him since high school
NFL football player not a top five pick
I do remember him not being your #1 WR, good call, and I think it is fair that at the moment he hasn't looked like a top 5 pick.
On the flipside I also think the level of his struggles have been slightyly exaggerated too. He is averaging almost 55 yards per game and has 12 NFL touchdowns in 26 starts and without stellar QB play. People attaching words like "bust" to him are over the top IMO. Not saying you are doing that but some are. It is just that the expectations were sky high.
If that class was re-drafted by the NFL today he'd still go around the top half of round 1 I think. But yea, probably outside the top 10.
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1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:
The following is a question, NOT a statement:
Do you see it as a possibility that Coleman does not want to play in Buffalo? The kid is from Louisiana. He signed to play for Michigan St., and left to play at Florida State. If he hates playing in the cold, he wouldn't be the first.
Like many wrs his personality seems to be a bit flamboyant, and this doesn't bother me at all. I am just wondering if he likes being here.
I think he is just not very good in the role he was drafted to play. He wasn't very good at that role even in Florida.
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5 minutes ago, SunDSolar said:
Goncalves has been solid
Yea, probably fair. I don't watch a ton of the Colts. They are so dull to me, even this year. But he has started since the middle of his rookie season on a pretty decent Oline and not looked out of place.
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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
2024 honestly hasn't shaped up to be a great class for a lot of teams. Especially those outside the Top 25 picks or so.
It was considered to be an all time WR class. But that was more about the guys at the top and the sheer volume. Outside of the top 4 guys - most WR's that followed have been a disappointment thus far.
This tweet kind of puts things into perspective on how we're not alone with having a disappointing 2024 class:
If you take a look at the selections, hits are few and far between after Round 1:
You can make an argument that the best two picks in that 3rd round are both Buccs. McMillan had a really good rookie year (got hurt in pre-season currently on IR) and Smith has developed into one of the better nickels in football. Other than those two it is Bullock (home run pick for the Texans) and Puni (solid IOL for the 9ers). Dru Phillips had a good rookie year for the Giants too, but has struggled some this season.
I am on holiday so I don't have my board in front of me but the other thing that stands out looking at that list is a LOT of those guys I did not have as top 100 guys. I know without looking that #s 65, 67, 68, 71, 72, 77, 82, 83, 91, 94, 95 and 97 were not top 100 grades on my board. I think a few others too but I know instantly on those. That said I think I had seconds on #s 66, 74, 78 and 93 and only Bullock of those has proven me right. My take on that class was decent top 100, thin after that, but the consensus broke down somewhat sooner than I expected. And only the top 50/55 picks stuck to the sort of pattern I expected. That was different to say this past draft in 2025 where I think by the end of round three 90 of my top 120 odd had gone off the board.
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5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:
2006 our 1st round draft pick was John McCargo and we picked Kyle Williams in the 5th round.
Meatball was a pillar of the team during the drought years and made 6 pro bowls and will eventually probably end up on the Wall of Fame.
2008 our 2nd round draft pick was James Hardy (RIP) and we picked Stevie Johnson in the 7th round.
Stevie earned a big role relatively quickly and eventually became our #1 WR posting back to back 1,000 yard seasons.
2022 our 1st round pick was Kaiir Elam and we picked Christian Benford in the 6th round.
Benford has turned into what many would argue is an Elite CB and has earned a lucrative extension from the team.
Could Tyrell Shavers be the next in line?
We all saw what he did in preseason. Granted, it's preseason... but he had a great game against the Bucs and it wasn't just on the TD. I heard a stat yesterday that he was getting a ton of separation on all of his routes and in Joe Marino's All-22 he talked about how good Shavers played overall. He looks like a MUCH more natural WR than Keon. This isn't perfect because Shavers was actually a UDFA in 2023 rather than 2024, but he stuck around and gained the most attention last offseason and I think a lot people believe he's a 2nd year player. I think we're all rooting for him, but I think based on McDermott's and Allen's PCs this week he may have earned himself a legitimate shot to become the WR Keon was supposed to be.
Shavers came out a year BEFORE Keon though. He had two years on the PS before he broke the roster.
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1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
Well I’m not doing that. Or allowing that as fair reasoning. If you think the guys are playing because they are the best and that’s immune from arguments…no. This coach is absolutely clueless. Tarron Johnson flat out sucks. He never comes out. Except for the 3 or 4 times a month he gets hurt. Cam Lewis has been better. Just because he’s not starting, doesn’t mean the coach is right. Bernard is clearly not 100% The guy has been absolutely awful. Thompson is significantly better but probably won’t play. Anyone still think Tre White belongs out there? A guy who was washed 3 full years ago? Nope only the coach. 31 should be out there no question. Last year Bishop couldn’t get on the field. Rapp and Hamlin were “too good” I guess. How did that age? This coach is ***** clueless. I want 3 LBs on the field. And I love Dorian Williams. He plays fast and furious. I’ll live with the growing pains at least he’s physical enough to play through contact
You are wrong on Dorian though. You might love him, but he makes sooo many mental mistakes as @HoofHearted has just demonstrated some examples of. Now I agree with you the starters have been horrid, so I am at "nothing much to lose" stage - but I do not expect Dorian to be transformational for this defense. He still doesn't understand what he sees with any consistency.
As for Bishop last year, he was on the field and he was making killer mistakes consistently. The light has gone on with him since Poyer went alongside him. So if you want to blame the Bills for not having a trur vet in the room to work with him in 2024, be my guest. But arguing he should have played more in 2024.... no. Sorry. He shouldn't. He was a liability out there.
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4 minutes ago, WillSaints81 said:
What about that home game? You know who will be playing.
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37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
As an interesting exercise, I’m curious how you and @GunnerBill would redraft the guys picked in the top 2 rounds? To recap: MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, BTJ, Worthy, Pearsall, Legette, Coleman, McConkey, Polk, & Mitchell are the guys.
So my ranking at the time was:
Tier 1:
1. MHJ
2. Nabers
Tier 2:
3. Odunze
Tier 3:
4. Legette
5. BTJ
Tier 4:
6. Mitchell
7. McConkey
8. Worthy
Tier 5:
9. Baker (went much later)
10. Coleman
11. Pearsall
I didn't have a top 2 rounds grade on Polk.
If I was redrafting today (on the basis of production not health) I'd go:
Tier 1:
1. Nabers
Tier 2:
2. MHJ
3. BTJ
4. Odunze
5. McConkey
Honestly after that I'd be hard pressed to take any of the others in the first 2 rounds so there is no tier 3 or 4.
EDIT: I had Franklin in that tier with Baker and Coleman somewhere. Forgot about him before @gonzo1105's post. And I WOULD take Franklin in round 2. He is still probably tier 4. But on his own and with no tier 3.
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9 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:
He's playing well when Lewis subs in for Poyer too though... I'm not saying Poyer definitely isn't the reason, but shouldn't his play drop significantly on passing downs when Lewis comes in then?
Could it be just that something clicked for him and coincided when Poyer started playing, or maybe more that Rapp was the issue and brining in any replacement level player would have facilitated Bishop's ability to only have to think about his role and not covering for Rapp?
Hancock is mainly coming in at safety on passing downs. Lewis is playing dime. It could be it just "coincided" with JoPo going in. I suspect not though. I suspect a proper vet who actually knows football is making a significant difference.
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31 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
😂😂We exist in a world where Allen is simultaneously too busy w golf and shooting commercials in the offseason and also somehow scouting college wrs and helping Beane develop his draft board
The whole "Josh picked Keon!" rhetoric is such nonsense. Do I believe Josh was watching clips of that WR class and texting Beane saying "this guy looks awesome!" Sure. Do I believe that either:
a) Josh was saying "X guy is my first choice" whether that was Keon or anyone; or
b) that Josh had any influence on the pick?
Strong no to both. Brandon Beane is responsible for the Bills draft picks. I don't know how many other ways there are to say it.
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1 minute ago, muppy said:
so in your opinion the Bills will game plan the same for Mills as they would have for Stroud?
I think Stroud's movement would have been the x factor. You can pen Mills in.
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51 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
Dont understimate the texans defense,
Scoring 24 or more is no easy task at all. Only teams over 20 this years were the Jaguars with 29 (which Mills had his historic come from behind victory) and the Seawawks with 27.
I agree. The Texans D is legit. The O with Mills doesn't frighten me.
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10 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
Not sure. Over the last 2 games Mills has actually played very well. They have won both games Stroud missed as well
I think I'd almost rather take my chances with Stroud coming back, maybe a bit rusty/tentative over Mills who is dealing well
This is like the "I'd rather face Bryce Young than Andy Dalton" rhetoric.
If the Bills can score 24 they win.
10 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:Not sure. Over the last 2 games Mills has actually played very well. They have won both games Stroud missed as well
I think I'd almost rather take my chances with Stroud coming back, maybe a bit rusty/tentative over Mills who is dealing well
This is like the "I'd rather face Bryce Young than Andy Dalton" rhetoric.
If the Bills can score 24 they win.
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3 hours ago, Einstein said:
Joking aside, why do people vacation in Mexico of all places!?
If you are a northern hemispher dweller then in November you have no choice but to head south. The weather is good, they have adults only 5 star resorts and they are a little bit cheaper than the Carribean. That is the full summary of my decision making.
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4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
It was acceptable with Diggs to the point where they idiotically extended him. I sometimes think Beane and McD are just too square to understand human nature. There aren't that many types of personalities. As an employer and team builder you gotta' learn how to get the most out of what is available to you. They drafted Coleman into a rudderless WR room the way they drafted Watkins into one. Getting serious about disciplining him after the fact was a tactical error. They should have been able to glean from last season that Coleman was immature and that they had to have a real WR1 in place this year............instead, they made Coleman WR1 and then benched him after he'd played the most snaps of anyone all season. 😂
They have mismanged it, certianly. But I am not sure Keon was ever capable of being the answer personally.
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Only in 2017 did McDermott draft anybody.