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Methinks you don't even know what you are on to here- I've always held the same position, that Brady will play like he did Saturday just like other QBs when he's pressured. The problem with most media and fan positons about Brady is making him out to be "one of the great" talents at the position WHEN HE IS UNDER NO PRESSURE AT ALL. They've done a great job giving him plenty of time to run their scheme in the past, Saturday they didn't. And he looked like I've seen him loook against the Fish last year when he got a little pressure on him and earlier this season when Indy put a little presure on him. What's been typical for the guy is to stand in the pocket for 4-5 seconds as he needs it on most game days. No one else around the league has had the same consistency in protection.

You inspire an interesting question- would the Pats have won Sunday with Brad Johnson or Trent Dilfer at QB?

Succinctly put. For fans not to recognize that the Brady skill set is far more Drew Brees than John Elway is amusing- and I have little doubt the slightly stronger armed but equally adept at reading the field Brees would have had similar success to Brady given the great defense they've played complimented by the best protection scheme in the NFL on the O side of the ball for the past 4 seasons.

IMO what happened Saturday in Denver was brought on by decision making from the Pat’s head coach and his players reaction to it. In the final regular season game the Pats threw the game in order to avoid facing the Steelers in the Wild Card round. Every Pat player knew it, most fans of any ilk who watched the game knew it, but the decision that cost Belichick the most this past Saturday was his choice to deny the obvious flop to the press. These Pats had been built upon an effective coaching strategy where the Head Coach could be left to develop big picture concepts while allowing the public tone to be set by his Coordinators. This arrangement resulted in a team with quiet confidence and a belief they could beat any team in the league, and those things on most Sundays proved to be just enough to put the Pats over the top. The season for the Pats began to unravel while Belichick snickered on the sidelines as the clock expired in the Dolphin surrender. He went on to exacerbate the decision to give the game away with BS like “ask the guys the Bengals beat if they want to play them again”. There are coaches out there who might do a credible job with this type of disingenuousness, but Bill Belichick isn’t one of them. Every player on his team know he didn’t want to play Pittsburgh the following week. For a team built upon confidence, there’s no better way to erode it than to tug at your collar and let the sweat bead on your forehead. Belichick spent a week doing both. The underlying confidence formerly set by their Coordinators was effectively vanquished by the actions of their HC and that resulted in their QB publicly whining about respect. And that kind of action is far more Terrel Owens than Joe Montana. Even with Belichick’s poor choices, this Saturday we saw the same Patriots defense they’ve ridden to three league titles come out and play a very good game of football against a Denver team playing at home. We saw the Pat’s QB face a little pressure, the kind most NFL QB’s face every time they take the field. We saw other things we see in almost every NFL game- a dropped pass and a fumble. From some of the posts in this string you’d think those were as rare as drop kicks. And what we saw, even with the type of defensive efforts that makes winners out of good QBs, was a failure to keep the wheels on their offense. The 5 pins hammered into Al Wilson’s hand last week prevented a Denver INT for a Touchdown although the ball was “thrown right to him”. Denver’s offense saw their QB sacked twice, while the Denver defense ended up without a single sack. They put a little pressure on NE and turned that pressure into mistakes by the NE QB that assured Denver the win. And so begins just another in the long historical lines of the diminishing importance of the “great QBs”. Both of this playoffs supposed “great QBs” looked humble- or less- this past weekend. Which simply means that this year, joining Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer and Kurt Warner will be one of the Jakes or maybe Matt Hasselback or Ben Roethlisberger as quarterbacks “good enough” to quarterback a Super Bowl winner. Because after all, in the context of the balance of the play on the field isn’t that all the guys playing the position when their team wins the big game really are- good enough to quarterback a winning Super Bowl team?

On Edwards- he's a viable backup one-gap DT, nothing more. At the league mini he's OK off the bench in a rotation, especially as a third down DT due to his decent foot speed upfield. Grady has seemed on his last legs for about the past three seasons, at some point (like now) that prediction will be more true than false. I haven't watched the Ravens at all this year but I hear Kemoeatu may be hitting his stride at the job out of a 2 technique set. He seems strong enough to play a 0 or a 2 technique and that's the kind of flexibility that would really give a new DC a jump start (hybrid 3-4 with 2 DTs) , plus allow us to focus back to bringing in a good SOLB instead of another DT to add to a rotation of Adams, Kemoeatu, Anderson and Edwards.

Maybe mimicing the situation in Orchard Park, the conversation here is focused on the immaterial versus the one very important thing said in the Adams interview- If it's true Sam Adams is intent on wearing our uni next year, our draft focus can change to just one high draft pick for a DT versus almost being forced into drafting DT with 2 of our 4 top picks. Sam remains one of the league's most dangerous one-gap DTs and if he is given a true 0 technique guy as Ngata is being billed we could move right back into the top among NFL defenses with the other heavy lifting being done in FA.

That seems like a fair read. I loved him as a player but as a coach Haslett always seems to have some major disconnect with his players, and not in a good way. He sure doesn't strike me as the Field General of the Saints when I see them play, he's more reminiscent of the guy about the get fragged by his own troops.

So now you'll simply defer to acting as if you've performed a self-administered lobotomy that has gone dramatically bad? OK Sherlock, you really want to pretend you're the only one on TSW who can't see his Avatar, read his sig line or his derogatory name? You've surely made a strong case for yourself being a Troll since it's hard to imagine any Bill's fan would be so publicly dishonest. To expose your Trolldom after establishing a posting record simply to carry another Troll's water is hard to imagine, but then again "ashes to ashes, scum to scum". Or something like that ;-)

Not at all- what he's saying is that instead of the ludicrous measure you've decided upon- "A Troll is a Troll when they say they are a Troll and not a moment before no matter what they name themsleves or post about has no bearing on them bieing a Troll", Johnny has a bit more liberal interpretation. For instance, if some jackass comes to a Bill's message board and signs up under a name derogatory to members or former members of our organization and commences posting photos and love letters to his own teams players over 1700 times, Johnny (and every coherent Bill's fan in this forum) will recognize that that Troll is clearly a Troll, even though Johnnie's measure is quite different from yours.

Isn't that called the Donahoe Blueprint? ;-)

It's a pretty favorable place to be for someone with previous head coaching experience ( and in some cases even not) who doesn't mind taking over for the dearly departed head coach.

There's truth to that- the Williams and Mularkey hirings both should have come with a "needs leadership experience" expectation that the media and fan base really don't acknowledge. We haven't hired a known leader in this coach (once again), and last time IIRC the reaction when it was clear GW wasn't cutting it early on as a CEO was to add some "seasoned" staff to help him out. Now the big guy sees that Mularkey is struggling and apparently feels he's not getting the bodies necessary but that MM may still develop into a leader and a good coach. What scares me is that MM was an OC and for my money ouur offensive coaching was easily the biggest problem on that side of the ball. Maybe he puts it together, but it would have been nice to see at least his supposed strength pop up a little during this past season. So now are we seeing a bit of Deja Vu in the same old tactic of bringing in the old-time leader to rub off on the young leader in training? I don't have strong feelings one way or the other on MM, and I also have no problem with the corporate "shakeup". I'll give Mularkey the benefit of the doubt in assuming he has improved from his experience and that improvement will manifest itself in some way on the field next year- it's hard to imagine not improving but it wouldn't be without precedent! But assuming the positive we're probably better off with SOME continuity and sideline familiarity with our talent versus a change there also.

As I pointed out, there are those who willingly invite being fleeced and those who don't realize they're being fleeced. A Troll with a derogatory a name and 1700 posts telling us how great his team is has a record clear enough for anyone who cares to objectively weigh his motives for spending time on the Message Board of an opposing fan base. You choose to either ignore being fleeced or you invite it. If you're a Bill's fan you're at home here on a Bill's Message Board; we always maintain a warm room for the family loon. Supper's at 6:00 sharp. If on the other hand you're a Troll like the one you're rubbing on right now you'll have to live with the fact that you're among the three lowest forms of internet life, and like the pedophile it really doesn't matter what outfit you put on when you go shopping, your disorder wears to the coherent like fear to a dog and you'll be proven out sooner rather than later. In some posts you've already chosen to insult Bill's fans in favor of a Pat's Troll. Only you decide where you take it, but then again if you're simply a Troll yourself you'll just carry on.

File under oxymorons: "Libeled bottomfeeder"

Your disingenoous lying doesn't change the facts-not one of the decent opposing fans we've entertained over the years has chosen a derogatory name about anyone associated with the Bills like you have, and not one of them has posted obsessively about his own team like you do. They've come here and respected the place they are visiting, a Bill's Message Board, and acted appropriately. They've talked about football, not their gay players or their nose-picking coaches. You've come and drawn one moron who can't make out the day from the night- or maybe just as likely he's just another Trollscum like you!

The Message Board Troll looks to attract two followers: A) Other Trolls from opposing team fan bases B) The weakest and most naive of posters who will ignore all the evidence to the contrary and buy the Troll message that "I'm just here to talk football". To date I have provided you with over 1700 posts done by the Troll, EACH AND EVERY ONE which deifies his own team and derides players or staff of our team. His actions are akin to showing up uninvited to someone else's Thanksgiving Dinner and spending the whole meal talking about how much better his grandmother was at roasting Turkey than the one being served. So you claim you can't see the sun, you can't hear the jetliner taking off and you can't smell the turd stuck to your chin. This simply shows that you're one of the two types who the Troll came here looking for. Let's assume for the purpose of argument that you're the latter, the true Bill's fan who is simply under the Troll's spell and cannot recognize that the Troll owns you. That might be possible to accept, that you are simply willing to be owned by a Troll, but there's the other possibility. You see, a true Bill's fan would cease fellating the Troll at some point. You choose instead to continue the tongue bath. Which brings us back to the first candidate the Troll looks to attract: See "A" above.

I don't believe I can make you intelligent OR aware since all others before me have clearly failed.

You're exposing your real purpose here. Try harder to conceal it and you'll last longer.

There's also the folks in life who find some way to step in dog droppings no matter how far off the beaten path those droppings may be. If they were to ever look down to their feet they would see why others cringe when they enter a room, why everyone seems to hold their nose when they're around. They wonder why no one sits next to them in the restaurant or at the game. But they go through their life, failing to recognize that they were simply put on this planet to be shat upon, since they are unable to recognize that their own total lack of awareness is what forces them to change cobblers with such frequency

Next physical make sure they test for Reginald Denny syndrome.

The depth of his manlove appears- ahem... bottomless ;-)

Thank you for bringing up the incident in which I exposed you for the gutless jellyfish that you and all Trolls are. I offered you the opportunity to take a bet that would have banned me from the board for a year if I was incorrect yet you refused that bet. I'd think a lilly-livered troll would be a bit more cautious about citing that very information since you proved not to have the quijones to challenge it in real time. Now go spend some quality time with the Brady Fathead that's stuck organically to your bedroom wall; this happens to be a Buffalo Bill's website and the fact that you've fleeced two or three of the posters here into buying your lie that you're "just trying to talk some football" in no way releases you from the Troll Cesspool the rest of us know you live in.

No one wishing to engage you in honest discussions about Buffalo Bill's football in a Buffalo Bill's forum starts the conversation with insults of Donahoe or Bill's players, and they certainly don't include lustful deifications of their team's players as part of their profiles.

Some merely giggle upon discovering that a "Kick Me" sign has been unwittingly taped to their backs. To each his own!

Here you go- take as long a look as you can stand, what you'll see is a record of over 2/3rds of his posts either telling us what a godly QB his team has or throwing fuel into fires like the Bledsoe controversy: TrollyWoodDonahoe Also here's an example of a classy opposing team poster- no derogatory name like "Hollywood Donahoe" and no Dolphin's falg waving sig line, plus posts pertinent to Buffalo Bills Football for the whole of his posting time, a true contributor and honest fan. He's been gone for a while but he'll be welcomed back by the whole of the football-minded community when he returns. He helps us to recognize the stench of the trolls that've washed up here lately: Honest Opposing Fan interested in football