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I would appreciate someone explain to me why I should willing give up my protection when the same people are telling me that police are killing people without consequence or remorse? Literally within days of each other many people are arguing that cops are state sponsored killers but I should trust said state sponsor killers to protect me from other bad guys
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9 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
This incident defines the word tragedy. To the larger issue, there is simply no trust on either side anymore. The black community has no trust in the police; they feel they are at risk every time they encounter a policeman. And the police have no trust that they won't get ambushed. I don't know how you get trust back.
Two things that will help:
1) general public needs to stop thinking of cops as mediators or anything other than person who is there to finish a situation.
2) police need to be more active in the communities they represent.
IMO a little distrust is ok, I don't trust cops unless I know them personally. People can video tape everything now and I will be video taping any interaction with cops I have and I have told my kids the same. I have also told my kids to do as cop says and I will sue later if cop is wrong.
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43 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:
The US already has the greatest percentage of citizens in jail in the world. Increasing that number may help, but it does show a societal problem that needs to be understood.
Then what is the solution?
The three biggest commonalities of going to jail- male, no father figures, and "wrong" zip code. If you have all three your chances of going to jail are very high. If you are my daughter it is basically 0. We can't fix the male part, we can fix the zip code thing a little bit but the lack of father's is a hard one to tackle. I truly think you mean well but unless we are going to combat the largest indicators we are tilting at windmills.
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This shows that overall baseball took a large hit from this decision. What I find most interesting is that baseball of all the sports seems the most linked to old conservative fans, NBA doing it makes much more sense than MLB.
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On 4/12/2021 at 12:42 PM, B-Man said:
as above.
Wealthy New Yorkers Eye Exits as State Plans Significant Tax Increases
As much as I hate to try and stem the flow of rich people coming to Orlando but we can't build fast enough and my friends who rent can't keep up with increasing cost.
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3 hours ago, Tiberius said:
Who said it was a white man? Is that real? You have a link?
I can understand how you missed it but it was MSNBC during their afternoon shift, I don't know name of host.
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I am curious about what the NFL plans to do with the people who are more at risk from the vaccines than from the virus. I am related to someone who due to blood clotting issues is not able to take many vaccines and limited kinds of medications. Literally taking the vaccine would be much more likely to cause damage then even getting sick with COVID.
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1 hour ago, BillStime said:
Oh, so I didn't lie - I just hurt your feelings. Awe, poor fella.
I have noticed with you Trumpholes that if facts are inconvenient; you always respond by claiming the poster is lying.
Classic @Deranged Rhinomove, right @B-Man? You all learn from the "best" - lmao.
Hurt my feeling? I am a teacher and I am married to a teacher- that makes you wrong. You pontificated that I was too dumb to understand a teachers life. So in other words my facts prove your opinion wrong.
1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:I rarely accuse you of lying. Just representing opinions as facts.
When you know your opinion is not based in fact then you are lying.
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2 hours ago, BillStime said:
Oh you did? I’m a liar? Why don’t you remind us all where I lied to you and be careful Tim - this will likely just highlight your ignorance (as usual) on a specific topic.I will wait.
Actually I have done multiple times but since it does not even slow you down I am not gonna bother again. My favorite was when you explained to me how I am too stupid to understand what it is like to be a teacher last August.
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12 hours ago, BillStime said:
I already answered question 1 - once a racist; always a racist.
The best part is you have no evidence that Jim is a racist but I have already proven you to be a liar on at least two separate occasions, so by your logic you are always a liar. Your standards for all others is so much higher than your standard for yourself.
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The NFL should allow their players to make their own choice on COVID unless they want to make them get the flu vaccine also. The players are mainly the types who get extremely minor versions of the illness. As for the crowd, I don't know how they can demand to be shown health records of people to be allowed into a public place. They can force them to sign a waiver in order to buy tickets but they can not legally force them to turn over health info.
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6 hours ago, B-Man said:
Not exactly "news"............
BREAKING: CNN Director Admits Network Ran ‘Propaganda’ to Get Trump ‘Voted Out.’
Didn't project veritas get sued for showing this last summer?
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3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
So you mean she must receive due process?
Yes, it needs to go through the process but I am hoping this does not qualify for immunity. I am willing to change my mind if new info comes out but it seems straight forward.
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I obviously disagree with the rioting but this cop must be held liable with jail time based on the info I have seen. It might be manslaughter but her actions are why that guy is dead and her mistake is unacceptable, as a law enforcement you can't make a mistake of which weapon you are pulling.
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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
My issue with the Zimmerman case was the interpretation of the Florida stand your ground law. After calling 911 about a suspicious individual the police through the dispatcher gave Zimmerman clear instructions to stay in his vehicle and do not approach the suspect. But he chose to ignore this request, left his vehicle, and confronted Martin. A physical confrontation followed. My contention was that you cannot initiate a confrontation, specifically disregarding police instructions in this case, and claim self-defense when the other person engages in what they logically believe is defending themselves against an attacker. In this case Zimmerman being the attacker of Martin who for all purposes had no idea what Zimmerman was up to here. Given these circumstances I thought Zimmerman was guilty of at a minimum negligent homicide.
You are absolutely correct that Stand your Ground should never been allowed. The only reason it was allowed is Zimmermans father is a judge and he called in a favor. I will disagree about the homicide because where they brawled Trayvon was definitely not walking straight home, he hid and attacked Zimmerman. It can still be self defense as long as you don't provoke the other person and I believe Zimmerman was just trying to follow him not fight him.
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51 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:
I agree but the one thing makes him unique is he played all 3 phases of football in the NFL. He of course played WR, he as well was a damn good punt returner, but he also played CB for NE his first 3 years on occasion. He was willing to do anything help his team win, is he HOF player? I don’t think so. Do I think he was amazing and fun as hell to watch if he was on your team? Yes I do.
This is why Pat's* fans are considered low class. You are praising a known cheater and cheap shot artist because it was "fun" watching him try to injure someone. Also I would not want someone like him on my team, trying to injure other players is not something a decent person praises.
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3 hours ago, Tiberius said:
Ya, why is that?
The same crowd loved George Zimmerman, too
George Zimmerman was not a good guy but neither was Trayvon. The issue with Zimmerman was how many times the news-especially the Orlando Sentinel-lied about what happened. They had access to information and completely pretended that the info did not exist. They knew that Zimmerman was beaten that night and was in the hospital but they only admitted it literally months after the initial incorrect report. I do not have to "love" or even like someone to recognize that getting beyond a reasonable doubt is a high bar.
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4 hours ago, Motorin' said:
I think several right wing commentators are guilty of what they are accusing the left leaning media of doing. They seem to be focusing exclusively on the defense's arguments and ignoring the plethora of expert witnesses the prosecution has used to counter.
Which leads me to conclude they are rooting for an acquittal. They would get to preen about how stupid the lame stream media is, and when riots break out, they'll get to assume their favorite position as they stand in condemnation of the evil left wing mob.
I don't buy for a second that any of them are just trying to be fair and objective, and just "calling it as they see it." You really have to twist your mind to the position that it is legal and safe to kneel on someone's neck, let along for nearly 10 minutes, and that continuing to kneel on someone's neck after they go unresponsive and die is the fault of the person being kneeled on.
That's why I called it sadism. Both what Chauvin did, and the people who appear to be rooting for his acquittal.
I think most of the media is hoping for an acquittal- the stories write themselves and both sides get to pretend their side is morally correct. If Chauvin is found guilty he will die in prison and the only articles written will be his epitaph.
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They discuss his issues while a Raider but don't say the obvious, on a good team he is the least important player therefore don't make any noise. This dude thinks a punter is not the easiest dude on a good team to replace.
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I want it on the road either in KC or NE. I think a nice win on the road will set us up nicely for the year. I hope we get Jax in week three because I still think week 1 they might surprise someone because there is not game tape.
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I just looked at spotrac and his salary is 6 million this year and I feel we can do more with 6 million elsewhere. I would rather see what Knox and Hollister can do than send 6 million right now him.
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I think unless we are trading for a RB in the first round we have our three RB for the year already on team. I have no idea what they think of Najee or Etienne but Beane does not drop someone unless the better player is already on roster and right now he is top 3. He is a rookie contract guy who has gained 1500 yards in two years, definitely a good value for now.
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3 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
I helped take it off the rails so I apologize. MLB will normalize and stay about the same I suspect. Some hardcore people might leave and pick up some hardcore on the other side of the aisle. With time feelings will subside.
Actually I like arguing as long as the other party is being honest- it went a different direction but still on a set of rails, just not the ones I expected initially.
1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
PR play by MLB... guarantee it was calculated and the study/projection about the very question you ask was in the executives inbox’s before they took a stand.
could also be that Maybe the players union pushed it? These unions often push companies for social stances so they can justify the cut of pay they take from their members.
I agree MLB thinks it will bring them some young fans but I bet it loses them more, at least initially, and I doubt people who are impressed by it stick around for long.
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This thread has gone completely a different direction then I had hoped, and I wanted to discuss it much more along the MLB angle. I have read that the ratings of the national games are down but that is a small sample size, can anyone speak to ratings otherwise? Basically will MLB pick up some new fans by doing this or just tick off the conservative fans and lose out due to it?
Daunte Wright Shooting
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So your argument is that due to the bad intentions of cops you should give them reasons to shoot you? Speak to people from the old soviet block, where cops were untouchable, and the people all did as told and gave no guff to cops EVER. I am aware that there is issues for black people especially in large city areas, but that is not what is causing these guys to be shot.